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October 04, 2018, 08:31:41 AM
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What the fuck do you keep my money for 3 months, you fucking thieves?

Easy, man ... I don’t hold your money because I don’t have it (I'm not part of the exchange). I think you need to send this to the exchange support, not to me. As for fake ID, as I said, I do not understand your motive. In my opinion, this is an act worthy of an idiot. OK, you did it once, but why twice?

And yet, I want to hear from you who these people are, who leave negative reviews about the exchange wherever possible. Waiting for your answer, Mr. Robin Hood.

Do not shy away from the answer, like a little boy.
Ok. I'll answer: I don't know  Grin
Perhaps one of my assistants knows about this.

Very funny guy. Assistants = shills on BCT, Reddit and everywhere

How many aliases do the Changelly, Changenow, Evercode and Atomic Swaps scammers have in this forum?
Please could somebody list them all

As I see, man, you appear in all threads ni23457, so you better know about it. As for me, as you noticed, I am only interested in this thread, so your message is meaningless.
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October 04, 2018, 09:02:17 AM
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You are a cheap whore already got an answer, but you don’t need it because you are a whore. You are here to repeat the same questions and get a penny for it.



As for fake ID, as I said, I do not understand your motive. In my opinion, this is an act worthy of an idiot. OK, you did it once, but why twice?
You cannot demand anything from me. You are just a bunch of Russian guys who bought a cheap company in offshore garbage dump (650 USD). So you are nobody and I spit on you and sent what was near at hand. [Just because I like to spit on brazen assholes and humiliate them Grin]  What is not clear to you idiot? Your function was to change my money and kiss my ass for the left commission. But you confused your weight in the country and started to clash with me. It will cost too much for you.




Easy, man ... I don’t hold your money because I don’t have it (I'm not part of the exchange).
As for this, I will answer you again if you are so stupid. I have no relation to the exchange, oak-head!
I will answer you again: I'm Donald Trump stupid bitch!! And this is my ID





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October 04, 2018, 09:34:32 AM
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I will tell you that you're an idiot if you think this is ridiculous. How can you demand a serious attitude towards yourself if you act like a clown at a festival. I'm just trying to find out your motive. If you sent this photo (Trump), man, you got the result you deserved. Therefore, I do not think that you have the right to accuse this company of fraud.

It’s like if I take your chainsaw and cut off my hand. Then I will blame you for this, demand compensation, because the chainsaw belongs to you...

So, I remain unconvinced that you are a pitiful idiot and liar. I will continue to follow this thread!
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October 04, 2018, 09:52:58 AM
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You are a cheap whore already got an answer, but you don’t need it because you are a whore. You are here to repeat the same questions and get a penny for it.
matej krkic - full time troll of ChangeNOW scammers or just a cheap whore


I will tell you that you're an idiot if you think this is ridiculous. How can you demand a serious attitude towards yourself if you act like a clown at a festival. I'm just trying to find out your motive. If you sent this photo (Trump), man, you got the result you deserved. Therefore, I do not think that you have the right to accuse this company of fraud.

You are just a bunch of Russian guys who bought a cheap company in offshore garbage dump

If this is so, this does not mean that the exchange has an illegal status.
It's mean that I can spit on you, whore. I am a very rude person and often get into bad situations in my real life (but I like it  Grin). If you don’t like me, then just don’t work with me and give me back my money idiots.

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The problem is not the jurisdiction of the company, but that you sent a fake ID.
So ban me and refund the money, idiot. I don't need your exchange. Who are you to hold someone's money, fucking scammer? If you are sure that you had stolen money, then you must report to the Russian police. What the fuck do you keep my money for 3 months, you fucking thieves?

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October 04, 2018, 06:33:26 PM
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The reason why changenow stole your funds:D because in thiefs law they dont steal from other thieves !!
Right..? So all you have to to do is say that you stole that funds and they will give your funds back if they are thives. Smiley


Try this method might be good Smiley

Thives dont steal from other thieves Wink
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Hey everyone, Polina here. I understand that a lot of time has passed since our last update, but I finally have some news to share.

Yesterday we have received a legal opinion on the situation. They gave us the green light on issuing refunds to all our hanging KYC cases.

Dear ni23457 (I'm talking to you here, because you are the most concerned of our clients), please turn to our customer support and confirm your dismissal of the KYC procedure. Your 100 BCH will be refunded to you right away, excluding the network fee.

This applies to all ouf our KYC clients who wish not to sumbit their IDs for verification. From now on, such cases will be issued a refund minus the network fee and the addresses they have used to make the deposits from will be blacklisted on ChangeNOW.

You can read the entire statement along with our future plans here: https://medium.com/@changenow_io/changenow-updates-verification-cases-and-future-plans-cf04a2863168.
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October 12, 2018, 11:30:29 AM
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@Polina_ChangeNOW if what you say it true then it will be good news for everybody especially user ni23457 who has had months of bad treatment.

If this is true and your policy applies to all people in the same situation as ni23457 then hopefully we all can all find a way forward where trust can be formed again but that depends on several factors. If users get crypto returned in the event they do not want to send ID then that is a massive and welcomed step forward.

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October 12, 2018, 03:23:24 PM
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I see that this story is close to completion, guys, but what about the reputation of the exchange that was corrupted? I look forward to new advertising banners from ni23457, where he will refute his accusations. But for some reason I think that this guy will not do this, because all his actions had only one goal - to deny the company, which, frankly, tries to act legally.

I expect the reaction from ni23457.
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October 12, 2018, 10:59:45 PM
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Hey everyone, Polina here. I understand that a lot of time has passed since our last update, but I finally have some news to share.

Yesterday we have received a legal opinion on the situation. They gave us the green light on issuing refunds to all our hanging KYC cases.

Dear ni23457 (I'm talking to you here, because you are the most concerned of our clients), please turn to our customer support and confirm your dismissal of the KYC procedure. Your 100 BCH will be refunded to you right away, excluding the network fee.

This applies to all ouf our KYC clients who wish not to sumbit their IDs for verification. From now on, such cases will be issued a refund minus the network fee and the addresses they have used to make the deposits from will be blacklisted on ChangeNOW.

You can read the entire statement along with our future plans here: https://medium.com/@changenow_io/changenow-updates-verification-cases-and-future-plans-cf04a2863168.


I sent an email to these scammers more than 8 hours ago. I even promised these pieces of shit that I would not initiate problems for them in Russia. And what do you think? They did not return anything.

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Hey everyone, Polina here. I understand that a lot of time has passed since our last update, but I finally have some news to share.

Yesterday we have received a legal opinion on the situation. They gave us the green light on issuing refunds to all our hanging KYC cases.

Dear ni23457 (I'm talking to you here, because you are the most concerned of our clients), please turn to our customer support and confirm your dismissal of the KYC procedure. Your 100 BCH will be refunded to you right away, excluding the network fee.

This applies to all ouf our KYC clients who wish not to sumbit their IDs for verification. From now on, such cases will be issued a refund minus the network fee and the addresses they have used to make the deposits from will be blacklisted on ChangeNOW.

You can read the entire statement along with our future plans here: https://medium.com/@changenow_io/changenow-updates-verification-cases-and-future-plans-cf04a2863168.


I sent an email to these scammers more than 8 hours ago. I even promised these pieces of shit that I would not initiate problems for them in Russia. And what do you think? They did not return anything.
it seems that your moment of glory is over. you've to get hyped on this theme enough. it's quite funny to read about "problems for them in Russia". What problems can you initiate? spit on their door? Grin
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October 12, 2018, 11:53:09 PM
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I sent an email to these scammers more than 8 hours ago. I even promised these pieces of shit that I would not initiate problems for them in Russia. And what do you think? They did not return anything.

Maybe there is delay because timezone differences. I am happy they have decided to release your funds, hopefully they will as soon as they receive your email.

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October 13, 2018, 08:26:46 AM
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Good day to you!

We have received your last letter (which was charming, thank you very much), and our support sent you a reply to your original ticket.
Please confirm that you are refusing to pass the KYC procedure and you will be refunded within 24 hours.
We have carefully saved all the information about your situation and will submit it to the legal authorities should they request for it.

To all our other users: don't worry. If you aren't trying to cheat and/or scam, you have nothing to be afraid of!
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October 13, 2018, 08:58:10 AM
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right away
within 24 hours
Delaying tactics!

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Good day to you!

We have received your last letter (which was charming, thank you very much), and our support sent you a reply to your original ticket.
Please confirm that you are refusing to pass the KYC procedure and you will be refunded within 24 hours.
We have carefully saved all the information about your situation and will submit it to the legal authorities should they request for it.

To all our other users: don't worry. If you aren't trying to cheat and/or scam, you have nothing to be afraid of!

You asked him to confirm he wanted a refund bu sending an email, so he did.

Now you confirm you received the email but are saying you replied to a support ticket and now are asking him to confirm again by replying to the support ticket?

What are you doing? Will you ever be straight up instead of being cloaked around confusion and bad PR?

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October 13, 2018, 01:51:27 PM
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The OP has made a confirmation, so we have refunded him the initial 100 BCH minus the network fee to his initial address.
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They returned my coins today(after 3 months of illegal holding and 2.5 months of absolute ignore for all my emails).

But I ask all people who have left a negative feedback never to delete it.




The fact that they returned my coins does not mean that they are not scammers. You must understand that they would never have returned my coins if I hadn’t organized this 3 month hype. Therefore, it is not their merit. This is exclusively my work (and of course the people who supported me here). And if you think the right thing to do with the feedback, then you can make a positive feedback to me, but in no case do not delete their existing negative feedback. Otherwise, this will not be fairness.

If you just delete your feedback, it will be a 100% signal that everyone can steal someone's money, then wait 3 months for everything to calm down, and then in case of failure simply return it and continue the business. It is not right.



In recent weeks, nothing new has been happened for ChangeNOW. Everything was absolutely the same as in recent months. My helpers distributed links to my topics and informed people about the situation.

The only thing that was added was that in recent weeks, Changelly, Atomic Wallet and Guarda began to be together with the ChangeNOW in most of messages. Also, many of you have seen the red banner dedicated to Changelly.

I am sure that this St. Petersburg group analyzed the situation and was frightened that if the shadow falls on all their services, they will lose much more than 100 BCH. And only because of this fear, they decided to return the money to me and change KYC-Refund policy (perhaps temporarily... until "Europol's" directions). I am sure of it so much that I can bet 100 BCH.
So do not be idiots and do not think that they have corrected and decided to be honest. They are just pathetic cowards who were afraid of losing more than they stole from me.


My conclusion: All of these services are scammers and I believe that such people have no place in the crypto world, they disgrace it and lower the trust of cryptocurrency. Do not work with them or support them.












I am very grateful to all the people who were in my topics. And I will send 0.01 BTC to every person who left at least 2 posts in my threads.
And I will send 0.05 BTC to JollyGood. I saw that this man was very worried about me.

I did not appreciate what these people wrote. I took absolutely everyone except the members of this St. Petersburg group.

I sent you a private messages, and I am waiting for your BTC wallets. If you left more than one post in my threads and did not receive a private message from me, then write to me please. I will send BTC to you within a couple of days.



This is not a bribe for you to write in my threads. I do not need it. This is almost the final. The red banner will stay here for some time. And my helpers will distribute links to my topics for some time, and then everything will be finished.
This is just a small thanks and some incentive for you to help other participants in this forum when they are in trouble.


I would be glad if you just drank a mug of beer(or something like this) in honor of Bitcoin  Grin


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October 13, 2018, 03:20:39 PM
Last edit: October 13, 2018, 04:00:07 PM by JollyGood
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Congratulations my friend  Grin

After your patience and persistence you did it. You managed to get those scammers to release your funds, I am so happy for you. Well done.

You rightfully mentioned that negative reviews should not be removed from the scammers at Changenow, Changelly and Atomic Swaps.

Thank you for sharing your good news with us all and thank you for your appreciation to the community for the support many on forum showed towards you and your predicament.

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October 13, 2018, 03:57:06 PM
Last edit: October 13, 2018, 04:12:26 PM by LoyceV
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They returned my coins today(after 3 months of illegal holding and 2.5 months of absolute ignore for all my emails).
Well, at least that's something! The value dropped from 11 to 7 Bitcoin though, during the time they held your money.

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But I ask all people who have left a negative feedback never to delete it.
I may add another tag explaining the current situation later, but I see no reason to remove the red trust. And there's this:
To ChangeNow should they read this thread: If you either refund us the coin we sent back where it came from OR provide a swap to the coin we wanted, we will remove this post but here's the best part: We are not going to tell you which transaction was ours so either refund every user you're holding and give everybody their coins back or provide them the promised swap.

The fact that they returned my coins does not mean that they are not scammers. You must understand that they would never have returned my coins if I hadn’t organized this 3 month hype.
I never expected your efforts to pay off! That can only mean you did some real damage to their little scam.
Kuddos for doing all this, and investing quite a lot of money (and time) in your "campaign" against them. I've never seen anyone this determined before.

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I am sure that this St. Petersburg group analyzed the situation and was frightened that if the shadow falls on all their services, they will lose much more than 100 BCH.
I had the same thoughts. It's just a financial decision hoping to minimize total losses. Until they pull the real big exit scam they no doubt are planning.

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I am very grateful to all the people who were in my topics. And I will send 0.01 BTC to every person who left at least 2 posts in my threads.
You're quite a unique character Cheesy Although I fight scammers for free, tips are always appreciated. I'll PM you an addy.



I made a script (for hunting spammers) to count posts per user in a thread. I can use it here too: these users have posted in this thread (the second number shows how often):
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     2. 89: ni23457 (BPIP unchecked)
     3. 86: matej krkic (BPIP unchecked)
     4. 55: Vizefog (BPIP unchecked)
     5. 40: OpenCryptoSystem (BPIP unchecked)
     6. 27: Polina_ChangeNOW (BPIP unchecked)
     7. 19: Bazinga442 (BPIP unchecked)
     8. 16: crazy_elky (BPIP unchecked)
     9. 12: LoyceV (BPIP unchecked)
    10. 12: bitcoinewman (BPIP unchecked)
    11. 11: cruso (BPIP unchecked)
    12. 6: User44a (BPIP unchecked)
    13. 5: isintel (BPIP unchecked)
    14. 5: ChangeNOW (BPIP unchecked)
    15. 4: Crashing (BPIP unchecked)
    16. 4: cyberpinoy (BPIP unchecked)
    17. 4: Zalaster (BPIP unchecked)
    18. 4: STT (BPIP unchecked)
    19. 3: navigatorus (BPIP unchecked)
    20. 3: Realerre (BPIP unchecked)
    21. 3: elhero (BPIP unchecked)
    22. 3: Evil-Knievel (BPIP unchecked)
    23. 3: Lovelybittycoin (BPIP unchecked)
    24. 2: Oilacris (BPIP unchecked)
    25. 2: Naster (BPIP unchecked)
    26. 2: jhenfelipe (BPIP unchecked)
    27. 2: LeGaulois (BPIP unchecked)
    28. 2: JACKYPOT - ETHEREUM (BPIP unchecked)
    29. 2: Osamede (BPIP unchecked)
    30. 2: imToken (BPIP unchecked)
    31. 2: hateplesent (BPIP unchecked)
    32. 2: revenanTts (BPIP unchecked)
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    34. 1: winkom (BPIP unchecked)
    35. 1: Potato Chips (BPIP unchecked)
    36. 1: audaciousbeing (BPIP unchecked)
    37. 1: STFU! (BPIP unchecked)
    38. 1: Koadharber (BPIP unchecked)
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    40. 1: jamalaezaz (BPIP unchecked)
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    44. 1: Joel_Jantsen (BPIP unchecked)
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    48. 1: izanagi narukami (BPIP unchecked)
    49. 1: magneto (BPIP unchecked)
    50. 1: MinerOpps (BPIP unchecked)
    51. 1: playmain (BPIP unchecked)
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    53. 1: comendador (BPIP unchecked)
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    59. 1: supermine (BPIP unchecked)
    60. 1: coin8coin8 (BPIP unchecked)
    61. 1: toheed2x (BPIP unchecked)
    62. 1: shagorbleed (BPIP unchecked)
    63. 1: mdayonliner (BPIP unchecked)
    64. 1: Matematic (BPIP unchecked)
    65. 1: exchange.blue (BPIP unchecked)
    66. 1: cameltrader (BPIP unchecked)
    67. 1: biehany (BPIP unchecked)
    68. 1: hiscall (BPIP unchecked)
    69. 1: ~Money~ (BPIP unchecked)
    70. 1: wowzar (BPIP unchecked)
    71. 1: barrystark (BPIP unchecked)
    72. 1: monacogooner (BPIP unchecked)
    73. 1: Malam90 (BPIP unchecked)
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Congratulations for the outcome and thank you very much for the tip Smiley
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The fact that they returned my coins does not mean that they are not scammers.

I did not expect to see anything else from you. They not give the coins - scammers, gave - scammers too. Are you allergic to scammers? What is the problem? I think changenow could not do otherwise, moreover, you would get your coins without doing such nonsense. You say that they pulled the time, well, I will answer that your case is really unique (sending a fake several times). Yes, I repeat it again, because I think this is the cause of this misunderstanding, and I remain in the opinion that you yourself have created this problem.

You must understand that they would never have returned my coins if I hadn’t organized this 3 month hype.

I will say it again, you overestimate your capabilities.

I am very grateful to all the people who were in my topics. And I will send 0.01 BTC to every person who left at least 2 posts in my threads.

How about me? I participated in your threads the most of alls Smiley
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