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Prove it. It's no point accusing anyone with a new account. A lot of people lurk, too.
Maarx...you have yet to answer me directly. Were you on IRC with me when the group asked me to lie to the community and I said no? Did the group conspire to manipulate BC? Am I a liar? http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/24vbsz/iama_maarx_project_manager_community_manager_part/chb1su4Dear Maarx, I appreciate all your work and intention to act openly now. Situation is imho grave and in order to believe in the BC community once again I need to ask some people some maybe uncomfortable questions, that would allow me to create overall picture and regain confidence. Question(s) for you: Were you on IRC with IconicExpert when the group asked him lie to the community and he said no? Did the group conspire to manipulate BC? Is IconicExpert a liar? It would be also awesome if you would confirm your identity (so we know we are really asking real maarx and not a fake account). I'm sure you would find the way using BTC or BC chains, for example by creating tiny transaction from one account of yours (reported to the community before) to another account. This would substantially increase trust in this thread and you. Thank you! IconicExpert has not lied about that. A few group members have asked him to promote a "Meet Black" campaign. This campaign would give anyone, who would sell their bags of Mintcoin, and buy Blackcoin, get 5% extra cash. IE did not take this on, since he did not see it as a good promotion. The lie would have been "tell the mint community that large mint holders have contacted you". No mint people contacted him and this, therefore, would have been a lie. It would have been a lie against the "mint community" The promotion went on nevertheless, just not by IE, and not on mintcoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640.msg6419037#msg6419037Note that nobody lied here, it was a push to promote this campaign, which flopped. zlyMartin can you explain how I would confirm my identity? Give me your address and I will send you a lambo. (my address: BA5XJv8SoiryRUZi2QsvoKHHABPqgssukg) Thank you for being honest, I sincerely appreciate that. As I stated in my first post maarx was not involved and I sincerely believe he does not know. When he says "the group is not suppressing the price"..he is being honest because he is not involved and was not privy to that information.
Maarx has proven this group has no problem asking others to deceive people to get what they want. What makes you think the first time was with me? I had a chance to conspire with this group and I said no because of integrity. It would have been a lie and a didn't do it. So why the hell would I put myself on the line in a public forum and lie about this? Why would I lie on innocent people. morituri13 claimed that Maarx was one of the people who personally attacked me. So wouldn't make sense for me to accuse Maarx too if I was lying? But I didn't because he is innocent and I would be lying on him if I did. What is my end game for lying? What do I gain? I most certainly do not want the price to go down...
I have another question for Maarx... all the time you and I have interacted....have I ever did or "say" anything to make you feel I am a lair?Hi. Morituri13 / Dognip did not attack me personally or through you. He suggested that perhaps I "attacked" you, or got "into a fuss" with you or "argumented against you". What concerns the price- it is my honest belief that some larger investors are trying to increase their position. We will/ might see a breakout like before. As to reply to the question if I feel you are a liar. No, I do not believe you are a liar. What you stated on this group of people however, is not backed by anything and strikes me as a false accusation. I would like to see something backing your claim. And I would like your 6m group to come forward. We have to sort this out. Also this group that initiated the DDoS strikes me as a harmful group towards Blackcoin. Once again thank you for your honesty. The larger investors is the names I listed. When I get the the okay from the person who provided me with the info and screenshots I will make it public since they will be instantly exposed. Also, it is up to the 6M group to come forward if they choose to reveal themselves. There are many people who can verify they contact me in PM and I never throw anyone under the bus. In this case too many people are getting burned and I had enough. I will publically state that they can contact me. I believe it is good if we get all the long- term Blackcoin holders with significant amounts on the same level/ line. I think the internal war must stop. There is a lot of misinformation in/ out here, but I look forward to any Proof of Accusation.
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maarx
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May 06, 2014, 06:15:38 PM |
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CONFESSION:
There has been much discord here regarding possible market manipulation. Sadly, I must confess it is me who has been manipulating the market. I have been trading my BC trying to acquire more. I had no idea the discord I would be causing. Since I am the reason the price is low I will stop. Please be assured that the price will skyrocket now. If it would not be too much trouble can we have one more dip so I can acquire more coins? If not please consider donating to me since I no longer will be able to manipulate the market... Much Thanks! Judge Neil / Judge Crypto PS. The good news is that in ANY case the price is looking to skyrocket! DONTE: B7geP8uXFxgofumA5M1kJwKtaNGJmM1cz7 Thank you for being honest. ... This is sarcasm. But yes, there are probably bigger holders entering the game. It is in their interest to collect as many coins as they can while the price is 30k. If they can game it to be under 40k, they would.
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Blackall
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May 06, 2014, 06:16:06 PM |
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Now people have the same info I have...if they want to continue letting these people rip them off after reading what I wrote, then that is their decision.
So basically.. nothing then? No chatlogs, no screenshots, no insider, no nothing as you claimed to possess. What about all the people you called out by name, trying to ruin their reputations? Will you issue a public apology to them for wrongfully accusing them?
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May 06, 2014, 06:16:16 PM |
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Metal alloy but yeah feels like aluminium and is pretty solid. Sent you a pm.
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May 06, 2014, 06:16:48 PM |
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Prove it. It's no point accusing anyone with a new account. A lot of people lurk, too.
Maarx...you have yet to answer me directly. Were you on IRC with me when the group asked me to lie to the community and I said no? Did the group conspire to manipulate BC? Am I a liar? http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/24vbsz/iama_maarx_project_manager_community_manager_part/chb1su4Dear Maarx, I appreciate all your work and intention to act openly now. Situation is imho grave and in order to believe in the BC community once again I need to ask some people some maybe uncomfortable questions, that would allow me to create overall picture and regain confidence. Question(s) for you: Were you on IRC with IconicExpert when the group asked him lie to the community and he said no? Did the group conspire to manipulate BC? Is IconicExpert a liar? It would be also awesome if you would confirm your identity (so we know we are really asking real maarx and not a fake account). I'm sure you would find the way using BTC or BC chains, for example by creating tiny transaction from one account of yours (reported to the community before) to another account. This would substantially increase trust in this thread and you. Thank you! IconicExpert has not lied about that. A few group members have asked him to promote a "Meet Black" campaign. This campaign would give anyone, who would sell their bags of Mintcoin, and buy Blackcoin, get 5% extra cash. IE did not take this on, since he did not see it as a good promotion. The lie would have been "tell the mint community that large mint holders have contacted you". No mint people contacted him and this, therefore, would have been a lie. It would have been a lie against the "mint community" The promotion went on nevertheless, just not by IE, and not on mintcoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640.msg6419037#msg6419037Note that nobody lied here, it was a push to promote this campaign, which flopped. zlyMartin can you explain how I would confirm my identity? Give me your address and I will send you a lambo. (my address: BA5XJv8SoiryRUZi2QsvoKHHABPqgssukg) Thank you for being honest, I sincerely appreciate that. As I stated in my first post maarx was not involved and I sincerely believe he does not know. When he says "the group is not suppressing the price"..he is being honest because he is not involved and was not privy to that information.
Maarx has proven this group has no problem asking others to deceive people to get what they want. What makes you think the first time was with me? I had a chance to conspire with this group and I said no because of integrity. It would have been a lie and a didn't do it. So why the hell would I put myself on the line in a public forum and lie about this? Why would I lie on innocent people. morituri13 claimed that Maarx was one of the people who personally attacked me. So wouldn't make sense for me to accuse Maarx too if I was lying? But I didn't because he is innocent and I would be lying on him if I did. What is my end game for lying? What do I gain? I most certainly do not want the price to go down...
I have another question for Maarx... all the time you and I have interacted....have I ever did or "say" anything to make you feel I am a lair?Hi. Morituri13 / Dognip did not attack me personally or through you. He suggested that perhaps I "attacked" you, or got "into a fuss" with you or "argumented against you". What concerns the price- it is my honest belief that some larger investors are trying to increase their position. We will/ might see a breakout like before. As to reply to the question if I feel you are a liar. No, I do not believe you are a liar. What you stated on this group of people however, is not backed by anything and strikes me as a false accusation. I would like to see something backing your claim. And I would like your 6m group to come forward. We have to sort this out. Also this group that initiated the DDoS strikes me as a harmful group towards Blackcoin. Once again thank you for your honesty. The larger investors is the names I listed. When I get the the okay from the person who provided me with the info and screenshots I will make it public since they will be instantly exposed. Also, it is up to the 6M group to come forward if they choose to reveal themselves. There are many people who can verify they contact me in PM and I never throw anyone under the bus. In this case too many people are getting burned and I had enough. I will publically state that they can contact me. I believe it is good if we get all the long- term Blackcoin holders with significant amounts on the same level/ line. I think the internal war must stop. There is a lot of misinformation in/ out here, but I look forward to any Proof of Accusation. Hey, what's with the well thought out post without a giant red font? ??
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May 06, 2014, 06:17:37 PM |
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What is in it? A virus? Or ...?
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colinfx
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May 06, 2014, 06:17:43 PM |
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Once again thank you for your honesty. The larger investors is the names I listed. When I get the the okay from the person who provided me with the info and screenshots I will make it public since they will be instantly exposed. Also, it is up to the 6M group to come forward if they choose to reveal themselves. There are many people who can verify they contact me in PM and I never throw anyone under the bus. In this case too many people are getting burned and I had enough.
So you get to accuse me as a conspirator with absolutely NO EVIDENCE and expect to continue as normal? Your behaviour is disgraceful - if not criminal.
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McKie
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May 06, 2014, 06:18:49 PM |
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CONFESSION:
There has been much discord here regarding possible market manipulation. Sadly, I must confess it is me who has been manipulating the market. I have been trading my BC trying to acquire more. I had no idea the discord I would be causing. Since I am the reason the price is low I will stop. Please be assured that the price will skyrocket now. If it would not be too much trouble can we have one more dip so I can acquire more coins? If not please consider donating to me since I no longer will be able to manipulate the market... Much Thanks! Judge Neil / Judge Crypto PS. The good news is that in ANY case the price is looking to skyrocket! DONATE: B7geP8uXFxgofumA5M1kJwKtaNGJmM1cz7 286k BC is not enough to manipulate the market effectively. Wheres the rest?
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BLK Donate: B7Pegtcz9wa9Uf5NsQLQ26HbQCBc8EmRGz
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MuffinMaster
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May 06, 2014, 06:20:51 PM |
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Once again thank you for your honesty. The larger investors is the names I listed. When I get the the okay from the person who provided me with the info and screenshots I will make it public since they will be instantly exposed. Also, it is up to the 6M group to come forward if they choose to reveal themselves. There are many people who can verify they contact me in PM and I never throw anyone under the bus. In this case too many people are getting burned and I had enough.
So you get to accuse me as a conspirator with absolutely NO EVIDENCE and expect to continue as normal? Your behaviour is disgraceful - if not criminal. He didn't get off scott free. He destroyed himself. IE time to get a new account, ya ?
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McKie
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May 06, 2014, 06:20:54 PM |
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Metal alloy but yeah feels like aluminium and is pretty solid. Sent you a pm. Prepare for a REINTRODUCTION of the Blackcoin Card. I can only assume that IE's disparity will cause his plans to unravel. And the foundation/devteam/wtf ever they are called, will reconvene and partner to still offer the cards from a new maker. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST
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Soepkip
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May 06, 2014, 06:21:21 PM |
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IconicExpert, could you take a break for a week and spend it away from internet? We all need rest sometimes.
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May 06, 2014, 06:21:56 PM |
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IconicExpert, could you take a break for a week and spend it away from internet? We all need rest sometimes.
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May 06, 2014, 06:22:09 PM |
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IconicExpert, could you take a break for a week and spend it away from internet? We all need rest sometimes.
I do not need a break and I more than fine. When I promised I would send you $1 per card without a contract and just my word, I kept my promise correct? You didn't have to "ask" me for it. I talked with quite a few people about this behind the scenes. Only today I decided to come forward because I do not want to see this coin ruined by these crooks. I gave you and maarx a chance to disassociate yourself from them...if you defend them and when proof does surface, people will think you two were involved.
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May 06, 2014, 06:22:53 PM |
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IconicExpert, could you take a break for a week and spend it away from internet? We all need rest sometimes.
When the very man that makes the product tells you to take a break, I think its time to take the deep breath, consider what has gone before and what could come after, and do as the nice man says. For all our sakes but especially yours, take a break and leave the thread for a while. Your now committing yourself in ways youre not even realising that are dangerous to your self in respect of any reputation you have left and legally. Take the advice of the 3rd party.... Take a break
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May 06, 2014, 06:24:18 PM |
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Soepkip or whoever is in charge of the BlackCast: Quick suggestion: I think you should really allow those who have been accused of being fake accounts of some people (I don't even f*ing know who), because there are a lot of these people now (including myself) to tune in during the next BlackCast, even if for a few seconds and share a few thoughts on BlackCoin. I'd really appreciate to have the opportunity to prove the point that not every single person who doesn't instantly buy into these stories must, without a doubt, be fake accounts... Otherwise, I am not really seeking attention. After all, we're currently seeing how that kind of behaviour plays out. Thank you. Hi Amigdala, this will probably get burried, but there will be future Blackcasts.. and I guess we will be pushing a site that people can use to get in the cast.. Thank you, maarx. As explained in the previous post, it was not necessarily my intention to appear on one of the casts; I do believe there are many more capable ambassadors of BlackCoin than myself who put in much more time and effort into helping this coin and its community than I currently can. And for that, I am ever grateful, I must add. What I don't like around here, is being told I am a fake account of someone and write here with a pre-text and a secret agenda. It really is a shame how BlackCoin believers and investors like myself are told off and demotivated by such factually incorrect, offensive and ludicrous comments. I can only hope this mentality is eliminated over time and we all get to focus on things that do actually matter. Once again, thank you for your consideration and clearing things about Blackcast.
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May 06, 2014, 06:24:54 PM |
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IconicExpert, could you take a break for a week and spend it away from internet? We all need rest sometimes.
I do not need a break and I more than fine. When I promised I would send you $1 per card without a contract and just my word, I kept my promise correct? You didn't have to "ask" me for it. I talked with quite a few people about this behind the scenes. Only today I decided to come forward because I do not want to see this coin ruined by these crooks. I gave you and maarx a chance to disassociate yourself from them...if you defend them and when proof does surface, people will think you two were involved. Jeebus! Prove up already. No one seems concerned that you have any evidence. Prove them wrong if you can!
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May 06, 2014, 06:26:09 PM |
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Is this sort of thing only happening with BC?
Yes, because it's the only coin worth fighting over.
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buy-black
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May 06, 2014, 06:26:48 PM |
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Nice but I would like them like this:
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BC + XC + DRK
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May 06, 2014, 06:29:09 PM |
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Metal alloy but yeah feels like aluminium and is pretty solid. Sent you a pm. Prepare for a REINTRODUCTION of the Blackcoin Card. I can only assume that IE's disparity will cause his plans to unravel. And the foundation/devteam/wtf ever they are called, will reconvene and partner to still offer the cards from a new maker. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST I wished ..... Also, guess who was the first in crypto to offer cryptocurrency storage cards? Yup... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179727.0
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