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April 24, 2014, 12:59:13 PM |
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I understand that everyone here is really pissed because of the current situation, but if someone still wants to invest some BTC in trading I suggest bitcoin-trader, as I wrote several pages before, there were no issues regarding deposits/earnings/withdrawal since the moment they started their work back in November. Support team is very fast in replies also. If anyone decide to give it a try, I appreciate if you use my referral link: https://bitcoin-trader.biz/?ref=Duhsasekirom Cheers! They are hiding too, you can find not much of a difference with btc arbs, they just have fb, g+ twatter and thats it... The same puttern is there they are hiding... Regarding BTC arbs, I think they are sooo gready that they just cant stop, they just dont know where to stop, thus they are now returning fractions of initial investment and trying to attract more investors. UPDATE: In case of Bitcoin Trader, I've just found the Local Representatives page, and there are lot of contact information, one can check if these are real, I'm contacting Kipp Watson (US representative) Yeah and so are the guys owning btc-e and dozens of other bitcoin related businesses. Kinda standard in the bitcoin ecosystem and in my opinion its a good one. This way greedy governments can't just shut them down. Oh come on, I'm not saying they must legalize themselfs, there are bunch of other ways to stay in touch with your customers earn thair thrust but still remain untouchable by government. Is the simple EMAIL a frickin hard thing for btcArbs to use?
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vach
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April 24, 2014, 01:02:04 PM |
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On their main page you will find the following text: Withdraw Principal At Anytime If I carefully read that, I understand the following (maybe I am wrong): you can withdraw what you invested at anytime - or probably that was possible until last week. Is there anyone who can claim they got profit from this site? I mean withdrawal of more than invested? My guess is that we could get out what we put in, but not more than that without their "blessing" or manual processing - I wanted to withdraw all my amount 0.97btc invested plus the profit of 0.142btc - and maybe that was the reason I wasn't able to withdraw...probably if I have asked 0.97btc I would have had a better chance...now it's even worse ...in a previous page (I think 4 or 5 by now) from this thread someone had a withdrawal with 2 hours earlier than I asked mine, and asked 1 btc out...but in the account (we have screenshots) that person had another 0.5 btc or so...I wonder if they were the profit or the initial investment.... Again, I may be right, I may be wrong... I had done that, i've withdrawn more than invested but that was 2 weeks ago, later I've invested again (even more than before) and now its stuck, this was said 100 times, Ponzi schem works that way, you may withdraw and leave with profit but you probably wont because your'e GREADY just like everyone else...
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nightengale
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April 24, 2014, 01:03:48 PM |
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Just people do some research, read about the service you're intending to invest your money. AND NEVER EVER risk what you cant afford to lose.
If I had read about btc arbs before I've actually invested, I probably stayed away.
I agree with you, in any case people should not risk what they can't afford to lose. https://bitcoin-trader.biz/?ref=DuhsasekiromWe get it, you want referrals. But please go advertise somewhere else.
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sunny1
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April 24, 2014, 01:14:37 PM |
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Just people do some research, read about the service you're intending to invest your money. AND NEVER EVER risk what you cant afford to lose.
If I had read about btc arbs before I've actually invested, I probably stayed away.
I agree with you, in any case people should not risk what they can't afford to lose. https://bitcoin-trader.biz/?ref=DuhsasekiromWe get it, you want referrals. But please go advertise somewhere else. Talking about referral links. You still have your btc-arbs referral link in your signature, well aware that if someone is signing up and investing under you will never get a satoshi back....
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Bestinvest
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April 24, 2014, 01:16:42 PM |
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Just people do some research, read about the service you're intending to invest your money. AND NEVER EVER risk what you cant afford to lose.
If I had read about btc arbs before I've actually invested, I probably stayed away.
I agree with you, in any case people should not risk what they can't afford to lose. https://bitcoin-trader.biz/?ref=DuhsasekiromWe get it, you want referrals. But please go advertise somewhere else. It's not the point in advertisement, don't get me wrong, you all have your btc-arbs links also in your posts/signatures and I don't see any problem with it, but the point was to show there might be alternative to those who want it. Regarding btc-arbs, I also put some minimum BTC in (0,05) so I'm in the same situation as most of you here, my intention was to share my experience so far.
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underhood
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April 24, 2014, 01:29:06 PM |
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Hmm,
my test deposits i made seem to be sitting where i sent them e.g. money were not used :/ strange
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vach
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April 24, 2014, 01:30:24 PM |
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Hmm,
my test deposits i made seem to be sitting where i sent them e.g. money were not used :/ strange
How long you've deposited?
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underhood
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April 24, 2014, 01:31:42 PM |
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Just small amount on 22.04 ... it is counted on legacy balance but on blockchain i can see money never moved
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underhood
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April 24, 2014, 01:34:30 PM |
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might make sense for everybody who has made deposit or withdrawal in last week to post transaction ids maybe that way we could at least track money and see what is happening to them?
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sorrynn
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April 24, 2014, 01:37:57 PM |
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Just people do some research, read about the service you're intending to invest your money. AND NEVER EVER risk what you cant afford to lose.
If I had read about btc arbs before I've actually invested, I probably stayed away.
I agree with you, in any case people should not risk what they can't afford to lose. https://bitcoin-trader.biz/?ref=DuhsasekiromWe get it, you want referrals. But please go advertise somewhere else. It's not the point in advertisement, don't get me wrong, you all have your btc-arbs links also in your posts/signatures and I don't see any problem with it, but the point was to show there might be alternative to those who want it. Regarding btc-arbs, I also put some minimum BTC in (0,05) so I'm in the same situation as most of you here, my intention was to share my experience so far. all but me..please don't put me in the same bucket...lol...plus..0.05 is something really small comparing even with 0.5 btc ..there are people with 3-5-10 or even more BTCs sent there...no offence for you , please don't take it personally and many thanks for sharing your experience...it's still your amount no matter the value
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Bestinvest
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April 24, 2014, 01:45:55 PM |
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Just people do some research, read about the service you're intending to invest your money. AND NEVER EVER risk what you cant afford to lose.
If I had read about btc arbs before I've actually invested, I probably stayed away.
I agree with you, in any case people should not risk what they can't afford to lose. https://bitcoin-trader.biz/?ref=DuhsasekiromWe get it, you want referrals. But please go advertise somewhere else. It's not the point in advertisement, don't get me wrong, you all have your btc-arbs links also in your posts/signatures and I don't see any problem with it, but the point was to show there might be alternative to those who want it. Regarding btc-arbs, I also put some minimum BTC in (0,05) so I'm in the same situation as most of you here, my intention was to share my experience so far. all but me..please don't put me in the same bucket...lol...plus..0.05 is something really small comparing even with 0.5 btc ..there are people with 3-5-10 or even more BTCs sent there...no offence for you , please don't take it personally and many thanks for sharing your experience...it's still your amount no matter the value True, 0.05 is almost nothing, that's why I didn't mention it before, but with 2% average daily interest (as it was in February), after a year it could have been something! Edit: It was my test amount but it seems it ended on that...
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April 24, 2014, 01:54:26 PM Last edit: April 24, 2014, 02:04:51 PM by lesnod11 |
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I had 3.6btc there, I had pulled out 1.98btc worth of profits over the last several weeks because I never completely trusted btc-arbs. So while I'm not as trapped as most because I had been withdrawing. I'm still looking at a net loss of 1.6btc if this whole thing folds up and goes away.
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sorrynn
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April 24, 2014, 01:56:49 PM |
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might make sense for everybody who has made deposit or withdrawal in last week to post transaction ids maybe that way we could at least track money and see what is happening to them?
I made a withdrawal 2 days ago of what was the 1% from the total amount in my legacy account...I confirm they came to my btc wallet but I don't see the point of sharing that since they are in my account..more interesting would be a deposit done lately to see where it went...I can give 2 txids from my deposits done 3 weeks ago...but it is related to btc not usd: 0.8btc: 6bdc08e4b4592a8039257364e7a1f9e14a6ba719250726f933263fa1cf36ecd8 0.17btc: ff0b5a2c30c0143281c10ca9a1a1b3c1b402ba4f0e05199899bd26bb85a7d060 I see many transactions there..but I don't understand too much...it may help anyone else understanding better...all I can say is that, in both transfers wallets I see now final balance 0 (seems to me like empty - lol?). If you understand more than I posted, please share your thoughts. small edit: what the spent/unspent comment means?
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April 24, 2014, 02:27:36 PM |
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at the current rate that they are returning our "legacy" funds, I'll have all mine back in 600 days
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sunny1
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April 24, 2014, 02:38:21 PM |
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at the current rate that they are returning our "legacy" funds, I'll have all mine back in 600 days If they do so and considering the then bitcoin price you might be a wealthy man in 600 days
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lesnod11
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April 24, 2014, 03:35:00 PM |
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at the current rate that they are returning our "legacy" funds, I'll have all mine back in 600 days If they do so and considering the then bitcoin price you might be a wealthy man in 600 days I realize you were saying that in fun, but anyone who would trust this company for 600 more days needs to have a reality check.
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April 24, 2014, 03:38:36 PM |
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might make sense for everybody who has made deposit or withdrawal in last week to post transaction ids maybe that way we could at least track money and see what is happening to them?
I made a withdrawal 2 days ago of what was the 1% from the total amount in my legacy account...I confirm they came to my btc wallet but I don't see the point of sharing that since they are in my account..more interesting would be a deposit done lately to see where it went...I can give 2 txids from my deposits done 3 weeks ago...but it is related to btc not usd: 0.8btc: 6bdc08e4b4592a8039257364e7a1f9e14a6ba719250726f933263fa1cf36ecd8 0.17btc: ff0b5a2c30c0143281c10ca9a1a1b3c1b402ba4f0e05199899bd26bb85a7d060 I see many transactions there..but I don't understand too much...it may help anyone else understanding better...all I can say is that, in both transfers wallets I see now final balance 0 (seems to me like empty - lol?). If you understand more than I posted, please share your thoughts. small edit: what the spent/unspent comment means? Spent/unspent: bitcoin works in a way that you are not sending individual bitcoins but inputs. E.g. i send you some bitcoins my outputs became your inputs. when you send bitcoins software tries find smallest imputs in your wallet that combined make more or equal of the sum you want send. Then when you send bitcoins sum you want to send you send to output address and rest sent back to your wallet. Meaning you need use all inputs in entirety (cannot send half of input). this way you would be not able to send any amount so way to work around is you send all amount of inputs just some part you send back to you. So your outputs become somebody elses spendable inputs. If those imputs were use in other transactions (e.g. were send somewhere) they are marked as spent ... meaning you cannot use that input again on other transaction
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neutraLTC
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April 24, 2014, 04:00:17 PM |
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here's my story i invested 1 btc in one account for 2 weeks, withdrew and with another email made an account with the referral link of my initial account. left the 1 btc in that one account for 2 weeks. all in all, i made about .35 btc. im out now completely, and not going to put anymore fund back in.
( there was a lot of stress in between all this, especially when my deposit took two days to show up in the second account )
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sunny1
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April 24, 2014, 04:44:59 PM |
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at the current rate that they are returning our "legacy" funds, I'll have all mine back in 600 days If they do so and considering the then bitcoin price you might be a wealthy man in 600 days I realize you were saying that in fun, but anyone who would trust this company for 600 more days needs to have a reality check. Yes it was a joke. I agree with you.
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April 24, 2014, 07:02:04 PM Last edit: April 24, 2014, 07:15:04 PM by FreeJack2k2 |
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This is getting insulting. I see another "legacy transfer" today...which is a whopping .25% of my legacy balance.
Are they kidding me, with this crap? And not a single reply to any of my numerous support messages. Not even a cut and paste reply like others have received.
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