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April 25, 2014, 09:24:33 AM |
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The sad thing is, they could have made plenty of money through arbitrage, shared it fairly, and not needed to scam. They probably would have earned far more in the long run. And, if they had been running this honestly, they could withstand a run, as they claim our money was always there on exchanges. They would have had a smaller balance to work with. I think it is apparent the money is not there. Maybe they are paying us back as they earn it, maybe they are just stringing us along while bringing in new suckers. Only time will tell.
Meanwhile, I suspect we are talking 10s of thousands of dollars at a minimum are at stake. Anyone consider chipping in for some investigation and legal action? I'm pissed enough, I would much rather piss away the coin on lawyers and investigators than see them make a dime off of us.
I'd be keen to help out with any investigation. Does anyone know much about forensic blockchain research? Just wondering what ability we have to try and track transfers for any clues. We could build up a collection of TXID's Here's the whois on the domain http://whois.domaintools.com/btc-arbs.net..mentioned here: http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/1zar2k/xpost_from_rbitcoin_btcarbsnet_is_a_scam_but/...Maybe this can help you. Someone in the previous posts tracked his transactions and found this address with accumulated funds. Perhaps, others can find their investments leads to this address too... |
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nicklello
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April 25, 2014, 09:24:56 AM |
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*****POSTED******
Thursday 24th April 2014
0.80%
More legacy fund transfers are on the way. One transfer was made last night and another transfer will be made in a few hours. The accounting process is going well with major transfers from the previous owners' trading accounts on the way. Today's arbitrage result is 0.8%.
Well I (and I suspect others) got bugger all ... guess it must be my 'punishment' for daring to post a support ticket asking what the hell was going on. |
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April 25, 2014, 09:47:09 AM |
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seeing what happens, for sure we won't get any improvement soon...or ever...
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April 25, 2014, 10:08:51 AM |
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sorrynn
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April 25, 2014, 10:37:12 AM |
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it's hard to believe but I think the guy actually did that. no matter what, no other deposits today from legacy to active balance so the chances for getting nothing more from this site are growing each moment....interesting comment he did:
"The guy that runs the one man show is called Adam. They claim to be based in Geneva which is bogus, Adam claims he lives in Canada but now is in China. Their Bank account is in Hong Kong and the website is registered in panama. Sounds like Alcapone. I have details of the details of their account in Hong Kong which I will turn over to the authorities here in America if they dont return my money in a couple of days on the hope I save someone else from being suckered".
Maybe he can make this info public to us and see if we can inform any authority about that to find a solution for recovery our losses...
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April 25, 2014, 10:43:44 AM |
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and coming back to greed:
If I were this "Adam", probably I would do the same...because it is a huge temptation seeing an amount of 1k BTC in your walltes...with one note: I would probably do this arbitrage, lock all users btcs and use that amount to get more profits for 1-2-3 weeks and then return the initial investments to the users stating something went wrong and the site will shut down - withdraw all your funds....in background I will do 1%-2% on a daily basis from all btcs...and later I'll give them back - and for sure majority will be happy to get their initial investment back - Like I will be if that ever will happen...but again...I'm in the losers boat and I am influenced by that...probably I would have another approach if I never invested there..and everyone knows: it is very easy to talk, but very hard to act..specially when (at least in this case) you don't know what you can do...
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April 25, 2014, 10:48:26 AM |
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Authorities won't care. And even if they do, they won't do much. I understand you can try if you lost 65 btc.
But yeh, those who read this topic before could have seen the warnings from me and others, yet you got greedy and now you will lose it all. Well done, nothing but yourself to blame.
Those who never read this topic before, sorry for your lost. Next time google before you put your money somewhere.
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rynomster
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April 25, 2014, 10:55:33 AM |
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Price of bitcoin is dropping heavily... you think 1000s of our bitcoins are being dumped?
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sunny1
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April 25, 2014, 11:03:17 AM |
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and coming back to greed:
If I were this "Adam", probably I would do the same...because it is a huge temptation seeing an amount of 1k BTC in your walltes...with one note: I would probably do this arbitrage, lock all users btcs and use that amount to get more profits for 1-2-3 weeks and then return the initial investments to the users stating something went wrong and the site will shut down - withdraw all your funds....in background I will do 1%-2% on a daily basis from all btcs...and later I'll give them back - and for sure majority will be happy to get their initial investment back - Like I will be if that ever will happen...but again...I'm in the losers boat and I am influenced by that...probably I would have another approach if I never invested there..and everyone knows: it is very easy to talk, but very hard to act..specially when (at least in this case) you don't know what you can do...
Don't expect them back. He is a proven HYIP admin and nothing will get paid back to you.... |
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rynomster
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April 25, 2014, 11:03:37 AM |
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Anyone try phoning +86 137 7194 2323? It's the number on their FB page... International numbers are blocked on my contract  |
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sorrynn
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April 25, 2014, 11:06:50 AM |
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Price of bitcoin is dropping heavily... you think 1000s of our bitcoins are being dumped?
I really don't think that the sell of 1k btc is the real reason of the dropping |
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rynomster
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April 25, 2014, 11:28:45 AM |
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There's been like 15000 bitcoins dumped today...
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vach
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April 25, 2014, 11:31:24 AM |
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There's been like 15000 bitcoins dumped today...
dumped you mean sold? |
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rynomster
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April 25, 2014, 11:35:47 AM |
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There's been like 15000 bitcoins dumped today...
dumped you mean sold? Yea well dumped/sold same thing  they're just unloading, and people aren't putting in the dollar to back it up, cos obviously everyone wants it as cheap as possible, and whoever is unloading, isn't really taking the whole community into consideration... |
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vach
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April 25, 2014, 11:58:26 AM |
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There's been like 15000 bitcoins dumped today...
dumped you mean sold? Yea well dumped/sold same thing they're just unloading, and people aren't putting in the dollar to back it up, cos obviously everyone wants it as cheap as possible, and whoever is unloading, isn't really taking the whole community into consideration... Dont you think this is the cause? http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-price-drops-40-following-reports-new-pboc-warnings/ |
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sorrynn
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April 25, 2014, 12:18:35 PM |
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I guess tha one is the real cause..I doubt 15k btc were invested/given by us to btc arbs
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nicklello
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April 25, 2014, 12:55:48 PM |
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Anyone try phoning +86 137 7194 2323? It's the number on their FB page... International numbers are blocked on my contract Chinese; the number is not in service. Surprised ? Not me.. |
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vach
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April 25, 2014, 01:05:53 PM |
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I'm sorry if i'm braking any forum rools but
FUCK YOU BTCARBS ADMIN whoever you are
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April 25, 2014, 01:15:35 PM
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Anyone try phoning +86 137 7194 2323? It's the number on their FB page... International numbers are blocked on my contract Chinese; the number is not in service. Surprised ? Not me.. I don't think it's their official fb page, it looks more like a guy named Mehdi Pazhoohesh (mehdi343) is trying to make it looks like official fb page using absence of official btc-arbs fb account, but every link over there is his personal referral link... They/he even advertise some new HYIP on the page (Oil rig...) not related to btc-arbs (at least at the first look) |
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April 25, 2014, 01:40:01 PM |
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Yeah, I've also lost about 1 BTC on btc-arbs but I've also made some (took out about 0.1 BTC every 10 days) I knew from the beginning that it was too good to be true but I thought to myself that this can go south in the near future or make me some good profits since I've stopped mining some time ago and don't really want to buy BTC. It did both and i'm almost evened out. Weather they return the legacy funds or not I think it's a good lesson for the community to take the time and research on where they put their money into. It seems that nobody here learned the Gox lesson. Then there's the other possibility that the guys are legit but really suck at PR. I've heard that folks get their accounts emptied or denied acces to them just for speaking out. I'm willing to take this chance and will keep you updated  |
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