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[Timelord2067]

This just in from another thread dealing with multiple trust issues:

Another example of cabalism13's questionable DT activities:

Week 15 cabalism13 distrusts tecshare
Week 17 tecshare distrusts cabalism13
Week 22 cabalism13 changes their distrust of tecshare to trust
Week 24 tecshare removes their distrust of cabalism13
Week 34 cab removes 18 of their 30 trust list (including tecshare)

Kinda irrelevant IMO, this shouldn't be here, instead on the Reputation Section. Also it wasn't questionable, trust list isn't moderated, I would do whatever I want to. I will remove/place someone whom I want to whenever I want. It's my personal list.

Besides, I wasn't on the DT1 by that time, so it's not that important.

Further reading on the issue begins with this post.

[cabalism13]

This just in from another thread dealing with multiple trust issues:

Another example of cabalism13's questionable DT activities:

Week 15 cabalism13 distrusts tecshare
Week 17 tecshare distrusts cabalism13
Week 22 cabalism13 changes their distrust of tecshare to trust
Week 24 tecshare removes their distrust of cabalism13
Week 34 cab removes 18 of their 30 trust list (including tecshare)

Kinda irrelevant IMO, this shouldn't be here, instead on the Reputation Section. Also it wasn't questionable, trust list isn't moderated, I would do whatever I want to. I will remove/place someone whom I want to whenever I want. It's my personal list.

Besides, I wasn't on the DT1 by that time, so it's not that important.

Further reading on the issue begins with this post.

Move on bud.
You won't be getting anywhere with that. You might want to ask Tecshare if he has a problem with that, concerning of our past, LoL.
And I'm pretty sure he doesn't even mind me especially now, it has been in separate ways.

P. S. I just don't want you getting other users on some kind of mess especially if they are innocent.  It doesn't have any connection with TYM's loan scandal.

[LoyceV]

My selection is made on my personal criteria and not having a custom list of yours isn't part of the criteria. I too was included in the DT list weeks before I even had a custom list.

Allow me to quote Trust settings:

List the users who you trust to have good trust ratings and good trust lists

You are of course free to do as you please, but please consider forum guidelines too.

[JollyGood]

There are so many examples of users not using the Trust system in an incorrect manner.

Double negative.

Nice spot. Thank you Timey, I will make sure my posts are totally completely fully coherent in future  

I am not sure why CryptopreneurBrainboss added those users, only he can explain the reasons behind his decision.

I noticed something I forgot I even implemented:

That's a mistake from my part and it has been corrected, I'm fun of rotating my custom trust list every now and then (if you monitor my list you'll noticed that). I Have a draft where I copy the name from and paste on my trust settings. If you observed properly, all or most of the newly added users were once on my custom trust list, which were also removed as a result of my list rotation.

Just edited my list to correct that and some of those that were newly added to my custom trust list had been removed then new members will replaced them (from DT1 probably to strengthen my CTL). My selection is made on my personal criteria and not having a custom list of yours isn't part of the criteria. I too was included in the DT list weeks before I even had a custom list.

Thanks for the observation.

Thank you for the swift reply and explanation. I used to add/remove people to my Trust list fairly regularly but some time last year I became restrictive. I add people to my distrust list with ease but consider carefully before adding them to my Trust list because being on DT it means being responsible in a different manner.

Anyway, I am glad it all seems to be sorted out.

There are so many examples of users not using the Trust system in an incorrect manner.

Mirror on your butt.

Thread titled: "Ree @hacker1001101001 ICO bump account": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5213922.msg54735394#msg54735394

Multiple fake accounts, ICO bump service, loan scammer and general low-life... and to think I used the unIGNORE just to read your trash. Adding you back to my IGNORE list 

[peloso]

all the manipulations are just a defensive reaction due to the massive manipulations by the Elk, Suchkamun, Lauda, Lafu, Tman and other gandons who excluded me
in my case, you need to look for causal relationships

exclusions and the all trust system does not affect my relations with partners and in the trade, no one of them interested feedback, they trusted and continue to trust me.
In theory, this may affect potential partners of newbies, but the specifics of my activity are such that me don't need newbies

so the trust system is very corrupted game system

In your opinion, do you think you use the trust system properly?

i not use system at all
impossible use this corruption system properly)

look at this lauda on dt with 7 inclusions ))

the trust system is nothing for my business )

[marlboroza]

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Ok, so more trolling.

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I just have to ask you something. All this shitting and bitching, and you actually included me to your trust network and now you trust my judgement.

May I ask you...why? I am just so fucking curious.

[peloso]

I just have to ask you something. All this shitting and bitching, and you actually included me to your trust network and now you trust my judgement.

May I ask you...why? I am just so fucking curious.

No..
you can not

[actmyname]

May I ask you...why? I am just so fucking curious.

Clearly, it's because their keyboard was incredibly tiny and they fat-fingered the TAB button instead of making the tilde, and ended up adding you to their network. Give it a few days, they'll change it back soon enough: it's definitely not going to stick.

Prove me wrong, peloso!

_{WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?}

[marlboroza]

No..
you can not

Peloso blyat why not?

Clearly, it's because their keyboard was incredibly tiny and they fat-fingered the TAB button instead of making the tilde, and ended up adding you to their network. Give it a few days, they'll change it back soon enough: it's definitely not going to stick.

Prove me wrong, peloso!

_{WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?}

Heey, don't do that, he will exclude me again and won't tell me why he did it!

[nutildah]

i not use system at all
impossible use this corruption system properly)

look at this lauda on dt with 7 inclusions ))

the trust system is nothing for my business )

OK thanks Hairy. I don't quite understand what you're talking about, but I appreciate your response.

The forum is so harsh that even satoshi has been banned.    This is mistake?

He was caught plagiarizing Craig Wright.

[Timelord2067]

The forum is so harsh that even satoshi has been banned.    This is mistake?

You'll probably find the UID was constantly being hacked (or attempted to be hacked) along with obscene amounts of merits and trust being given to that user who clearly isn't coming back (and if the debar-kale with "Bruno" is anything to go by, banning the UID saves headaches later)

He was caught plagiarizing Craig Wright.

OK, that was actually *almost* funny...

[LoyceV]

The forum is so harsh that even satoshi has been banned.    This is mistake?

I've known for a long time that satoshi's account was locked (I think I must have read it in a post from theymos) to prevent it from being hacked. If satoshi wants to come back, all it takes is a signed message to theymos and he can regain access.
@satoshi: all it takes is one new post, and I'll send you 50 Merit

I didn't know "locked" also means he's banned though, until I added OmegaStarScream's list to my list of banned users. Most of them have probably been banned for years already, I just didn't know about them until last week.

Last week, 1019 users on my Trust list viewer were marked as banned. This week, it's 2122 users.

Update:
From Will "satoshi" ever login again?:

Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

His account is locked, so no. If he wants to claim his account, he'll have to contact me with a PGP signature.

[dragonvslinux]

The forum is so harsh that even satoshi has been banned.    This is mistake?

You'll probably find the UID was constantly being hacked (or attempted to be hacked) along with obscene amounts of merits and trust being given to that user who clearly isn't coming back (and if the debar-kale with "Bruno" is anything to go by, banning the UID saves headaches later)

He was caught plagiarizing Craig Wright.

OK, that was actually *almost* funny...

Correction, that was definitely funny 

[JollyGood]

I wonder if Satoshi will ever make a come back to this forum and wonder if we will ever know his/her/their real identity.

The forum is so harsh that even satoshi has been banned.    This is mistake?

I've known for a long time that satoshi's account was locked (I think I must have read it in a post from theymos) to prevent it from being hacked. If satoshi wants to come back, all it takes is a signed message to theymos and he can regain access.
@satoshi: all it takes is one new post, and I'll send you 50 Merit

I didn't know "locked" also means he's banned though, until I added OmegaStarScream's list to my list of banned users. Most of them have probably been banned for years already, I just didn't know about them until last week.

Last week, 1019 users on my Trust list viewer were marked as banned. This week, it's 2122 users.

Update:
From Will "satoshi" ever login again?:

Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

His account is locked, so no. If he wants to claim his account, he'll have to contact me with a PGP signature.

[mindrust]

I wonder if Satoshi will ever make a come back to this forum and wonder if we will ever know his/her/their real identity.

That would create some major turbulence in the matrix.

Not to mention his account is already locked out.

He'll have to contact theymos first with a signed mesage from the genesis block. The more important question is, does he even have the keys anymore? (and that if he is still alive)

[JollyGood]

Turbulence indeed... and one would imagine he/she/they would have the ability to sign messages from any previous owned or operated wallets. Imagine that  

Satoshi coming back would be huge international news.

I wonder if Satoshi will ever make a come back to this forum and wonder if we will ever know his/her/their real identity.

That would create some major turbulence in the matrix.

Not to mention his account is already locked out.

He'll have to contact theymos first with a signed mesage from the genesis block. The more important question is, does he even have the keys anymore? (and that if he is still alive)

[JayJuanGee]

I wonder if Satoshi will ever make a come back to this forum and wonder if we will ever know his/her/their real identity.

The forum is so harsh that even satoshi has been banned.    This is mistake?

I've known for a long time that satoshi's account was locked (I think I must have read it in a post from theymos) to prevent it from being hacked. If satoshi wants to come back, all it takes is a signed message to theymos and he can regain access.
@satoshi: all it takes is one new post, and I'll send you 50 Merit

I didn't know "locked" also means he's banned though, until I added OmegaStarScream's list to my list of banned users. Most of them have probably been banned for years already, I just didn't know about them until last week.

Last week, 1019 users on my Trust list viewer were marked as banned. This week, it's 2122 users.

Update:
From Will "satoshi" ever login again?:

Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

His account is locked, so no. If he wants to claim his account, he'll have to contact me with a PGP signature.

Personally, I doubt that satoshi will ever come back.  The odds seem to be quite far against it.  

I am starting to consider that if he has already been successful (to date) of really baffling everyone in terms of concealing his identity in spite of the passion and likely interest in wanting to know who he is, then why would he screw up such a seeming concealment success story?

Some of the only scenarios that I could imagine would be cases in which he gets outed - for example, in circumstances that he is already known or the information gets leaked or discovered.  But never say never, and surely all kinds of crazy things can happen in the world.  

It's not like satoshi was some kind of precocious teenager without much history and who died right after creating and launching bitcoin (of course with nearly two years of testing with him still being somewhat active and interactive in some kind of capacity during early bitcoin years).  

In other words, s/he/they seemed to have had a decent amount of knowledge of various systems and cryptography dynamics at the time of the white paper and even walking through various scenarios while bitcoin was in its early years of running, which probably would take a lot of years for anyone to figure out how to combine various already tried projects into what turned into bitcoin and to talk through various potential problems, including creating incentive mechanisms - and even discussing that there are going to be a lot of snake oil imitations and attacks in that direction.  

So, in essence, what I am attempting to asserr is that some person(s) had to have known satoshi in real life through his having had acquired the knowledge and the various skills, and the only way to keep a secret is if all of them, except one, are dead...    

Some variation of this Benjamin Franklin expression:

>>>>Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead.<<<

[wwzsocki]

The forum is so harsh that even satoshi has been banned...?

He was caught plagiarizing Craig Wright.

...that was actually *almost* funny...

...that was definitely funny  

That was funny for sure, best joke I have read on Bitcointalk from weeks.

I couldn't stop laughing for a few minutes.

[JaredKaragen]

I wonder if Satoshi will ever make a come back to this forum and wonder if we will ever know his/her/their real identity.

Some odd folks like me have a VERY good idea whom it could be by means of the powers of deduction.
But... I'm content with that personally.

[Timelord2067]

This happened last week:



This just happened:

Trust list for: TECSHARE (Trust: +36 / =7 / -3) (DT1 (-3) 916 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-07-11_Sat_05.05h)
Back to index

TECSHARE Trusts these users' judgement:

79. NEW gumusi (Trust: +0 / =1 / -1) (94 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

84. NEW anonymousminer (Trust: +42 / =0 / -1) (DT1! (5) 859 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

87. NEW Corrosive (Trust: +20 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 1027 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Trust list: backscratchers: users agree, they trust or distrust each other.
Trust list: backstabbers: users disagree, one user trust the other, while the other distrust him.

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

Are they *really* that trustworthy? Or, is it Tec is gaming the system giving trust-for-trust with anyone that comes along?  (or, is it just DT1 the whets his appetite?)