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April 17, 2014, 11:40:35 AM
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So is randomlove trolling or what?
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April 17, 2014, 12:11:03 PM
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So is randomlove trolling or what?

This is the most inspirational thing ive seen in over 2 decades! The kids SEE IT! WHY CANT YOU! (about the tories (UK) but this is applicable in all western worlds!) Spread the love!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiEqPzpMA9M

Your funny! Here's the truth about your banksters and wars!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKnF1HEUwuo

What do i need to say/Show you before you will actually question the things you take for granted?

Im no troll no but why would you take my word for it?

All i try to do is get people to ask questions about EVERYTHING, They been manipulating the population for over 2 centuries!

The truth smacks you in the face and you dismiss it. You see thats what they want you to do sheeple! Your all perfetic cowards! And that's just fact!

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Uncontrolled Decompression Incidents Posted again for those that missed it buried in the garbage.


Far from unique there are plenty every year.

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Decompression incidents are not uncommon on military and civilian aircraft, with approximately 40–50 rapid decompression events occurring worldwide annually.  "Rapid Decompression In Air Transport Aircraft" (PDF). Aviation Medical Society of Australia and New Zealand. 2000-11-13. Retrieved 2008-09-01.[26]

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/04/16/303654545/43-year-old-cold-case-closed-south-dakota-girls-died-in-accident?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20140416

A car crashes 43 years ago and they finally found it.

Doesn't take much for something to disappear without a trace. Now those with the tinfoil hats on please try and imagine aircraft wreckage at the bottom of the Indian Ocean. This is going to be months or years of searching. It was an accident. Depressurization / Fire combo most likely explanation. Plenty of events in the past similar to this event making shit up isn't a solution. Start with the physics and mechanics and make a supposition from that.

It doesn't help your case much comparing an incident that happened to a local town 43 years ago involving 3 people with an incident involving multiple countries, 239 people, and modern day technology. A car crash of that nature, today, would have been found.

In any case, your drawing conclusions without evidence the same way tinfoil hatters do. Where are these past similar events?  This seems like a pretty unique situation.

It helps put it in PERSPECTIVE.

A car can go missing right off a known travelled road and not discovered for 43 years. A plane can do the same. Let us not let the tinfoil hats win. A horrible accident happened. We need to know what happened to protect others from the potential maintenance or engineering flaw. It was NOT aliens, NOR conspiracies or any other BS story your imagination can come up with. I did my part by previously posting the list cabin depressurization accidents and it is not a short list by far and most probably fits this scenario although there maybe others. When you got a theory that relates to what is at least remotely plausible then let us talk about it. The theory I put forward has been put forward by commercial pilots as a plausible explanation. You have to start with the theory that makes some sense and is based on the facts as they are given.

A plane travels hours and crashes well off course in the Indian Ocean?

What does that sound like when you compare it to past events like this?

If I was going to believe anything then it would be fire and decompression and pilots become incapacitated for a plane to fly along then run out of fuel and crash that far off course.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10711590/Malaysia-Airlines-MH370-Cairo-777-cockpit-fire-could-yield-clues-to-missing-plane.html

http://www.wired.com/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/

I suggest when it is found they will find something like this as the cause. You don't need the god of the GAPS argument to make an educated guess. People are making educated guesses. LISTEN to them.


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There is no point speculating further until more evidence surfaces, but in the meantime it serves no purpose to malign pilots who well may have been in a struggle to save this aircraft from a fire or other serious mechanical issue. Capt. Zaharie Ahmad Shah was a hero struggling with an impossible situation trying to get that plane to Langkawi. There is no doubt in my mind. That’s the reason for the turn and direct route. A hijacking would not have made that deliberate left turn with a direct heading for Langkawi. It probably would have weaved around a bit until the hijackers decided where they were taking it.


http://www.wired.com/2014/03/malaysia-air/

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April 17, 2014, 01:20:37 PM
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So is randomlove trolling or what?

This is the most inspirational thing ive seen in over 2 decades! The kids SEE IT! WHY CANT YOU! (about the tories (UK) but this is applicable in all western worlds!) Spread the love!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiEqPzpMA9M

Your funny! Here's the truth about your banksters and wars!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKnF1HEUwuo

What do i need to say/Show you before you will actually question the things you take for granted?

Im no troll no but why would you take my word for it?

All i try to do is get people to ask questions about EVERYTHING, They been manipulating the population for over 2 centuries!

The truth smacks you in the face and you dismiss it. You see thats what they want you to do sheeple! Your all perfetic cowards! And that's just fact!



You seem to be making a lot of presumptions and assumptions about people here. Yeah, I agree, everybody should question what they're told (and that includes crap from you), but you can't really act as an enlightened individual when you get your proof from folded up dollar bills, and if you think there's any truth to that then you're either a troll, idiot or sheeple yourself.

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April 17, 2014, 01:24:00 PM
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So is randomlove trolling or what?

Hard to tell whether he is trolling or actually buys into his own nonsense.

They say the insane don't realize they are insane...
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April 17, 2014, 01:53:39 PM
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So is randomlove trolling or what?

Hard to tell whether he is trolling or actually buys into his own nonsense.

They say the insane don't realize they are insane...

It's always hard to tell wether the theorists are genuine or just trolling.
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April 17, 2014, 02:01:42 PM
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So is randomlove trolling or what?

This is the most inspirational thing ive seen in over 2 decades! The kids SEE IT! WHY CANT YOU! (about the tories (UK) but this is applicable in all western worlds!) Spread the love!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiEqPzpMA9M

Your funny! Here's the truth about your banksters and wars!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKnF1HEUwuo

What do i need to say/Show you before you will actually question the things you take for granted?

Im no troll no but why would you take my word for it?

All i try to do is get people to ask questions about EVERYTHING, They been manipulating the population for over 2 centuries!

The truth smacks you in the face and you dismiss it. You see thats what they want you to do sheeple! Your all perfetic cowards! And that's just fact!



You seem to be making a lot of presumptions and assumptions about people here. Yeah, I agree, everybody should question what they're told (and that includes crap from you), but you can't really act as an enlightened individual when you get your proof from folded up dollar bills, and if you think there's any truth to that then you're either a troll, idiot or sheeple yourself.

My comments come out to the general public so sorry if you took them personal. Most people don't have a clue! I never quoted the dollar bill made me enlightened. Thats their propaganda, thats all! If you want enlightening go watch spirit science if you got the attention span longer than a flea!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmN2RL4VJsE&list=PL2C2FBAB7E002EE3E

If you really want to know the truth its all there, In nice sections for you too follow. Once you get this you will see why they do what they do and how they do it!

Im not here to knock sense into you, you seem like your still having trouble opening your mind. This world is an illusion and if you look after your environment it will change your DNA which in turn changes you. EVERYTHING is connected. The answer to oil spills (man made), Radioactive spills (man made), death of the forests and animals (man made)? mycelium better known as mushrooms when they flower! We are decendants of mycelium!

Paul Stamets as shown this for decades and in his latest lecture he pulled out all the stops! 367 up votes to 0 down votes as gotta say something on youtube asn't it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwLviP7KaAc

Mushrooms soak neutrients out of rocks. Rocks crumble and make soil. Grass grows and dies. Mushrooms recycle and make more soil and so on. Then i'm sure you can work the rest of the storey from there. Ever wondered why schooling never educated you about mushrooms? This is why, There the link!

So is randomlove trolling or what?

Hard to tell whether he is trolling or actually buys into his own nonsense.

They say the insane don't realize they are insane...

Still, I'm the 'crazy one' by your standards yet you people keep doing the same thing again and again expecting different results! You know what that is right?

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/alberteins133991.html

You do realise what you just proved yourself to be right?

So is randomlove trolling or what?

Hard to tell whether he is trolling or actually buys into his own nonsense.

They say the insane don't realize they are insane...

It's always hard to tell wether the theorists are genuine or just trolling.

Yep, were individual and its up to each and everyone of us. They use music to brainwash the masses and its so effective thats why they own media! I promise i am just a person, Like you or anyone else but has spent time asking why all my life and not bowing down to authority and questionaing the hoprrors of the world. I have put my head in the darkest of dark places so i can see this light i tell you! I am a good egg, one could say Wink

Peace

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April 17, 2014, 02:13:57 PM
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Yup, randomlove is definitly trolling.
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April 17, 2014, 02:22:46 PM
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Yup, randomlove is definitly trolling.

Brain dead smuck! Obviously you never paid attention to anything i say as you wouldn't be so quick to judge. Move along you sheep! Humanity doesn't need your kind polluting the gene pool with dumb sprogs!
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April 17, 2014, 02:32:59 PM
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Yup, randomlove is definitly trolling.

Brain dead smuck! Obviously you never paid attention to anything i say as you wouldn't be so quick to judge. Move along you sheep! Humanity doesn't need your kind polluting the gene pool with dumb sprogs!

I paid attention. It's just mostly nonsense. Even if there's a sliver of truth there you just cover it and mix it up with shite that it's hard to take you seriously. But I get it, you're just trolling.
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April 17, 2014, 02:36:47 PM
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Yup, randomlove is definitly trolling.

Brain dead smuck! Obviously you never paid attention to anything i say as you wouldn't be so quick to judge. Move along you sheep! Humanity doesn't need your kind polluting the gene pool with dumb sprogs!

I paid attention. It's just mostly nonsense. Even if there's a sliver of truth there you just cover it and mix it up with shite that it's hard to take you seriously. But I get it, you're just trolling.

Its not for me to convince you, Only you can teach yourself, Your right!

Good luck with your endeavours, Maybe one day you will think you got some randomlove!

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April 17, 2014, 02:41:18 PM
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Yup, randomlove is definitly trolling.

Brain dead smuck! Obviously you never paid attention to anything i say as you wouldn't be so quick to judge. Move along you sheep! Humanity doesn't need your kind polluting the gene pool with dumb sprogs!

I paid attention. It's just mostly nonsense. Even if there's a sliver of truth there you just cover it and mix it up with shite that it's hard to take you seriously. But I get it, you're just trolling.

Its not for me to convince you, Only you can teach yourself, Your right!

Good luck with your endeavours, Maybe one day you will think you got some randomlove!

peace

The only thing I got was trolled by a moron.
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April 17, 2014, 02:51:39 PM
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Yup, randomlove is definitly trolling.

Brain dead smuck! Obviously you never paid attention to anything i say as you wouldn't be so quick to judge. Move along you sheep! Humanity doesn't need your kind polluting the gene pool with dumb sprogs!

I paid attention. It's just mostly nonsense. Even if there's a sliver of truth there you just cover it and mix it up with shite that it's hard to take you seriously. But I get it, you're just trolling.

Its not for me to convince you, Only you can teach yourself, Your right!

Good luck with your endeavours, Maybe one day you will think you got some randomlove!

peace

The only thing I got was trolled by a moron.

Its amazing, They dont even need to pay people to do what they want, People just jump to conclusions and do it. The oppressed opressing the weaker for there oppressors! It's genius, I take my hat off to them, as their 200+ year plan is working a dream. No wonder all the Zionists are laughing at how well there plans are working. Genius in its simplicity, always the best ideas!
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April 17, 2014, 07:11:26 PM
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People just jump to conclusions and do it.

You're the only jumping to conclusions based on not a shred of evidence, research or common sense, just outlandish conspiracies, self contradicting arguments and hearsay from crackpots. Let me guess, you believe in chemtrails and fake moonlandings too, right?
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April 17, 2014, 07:26:00 PM
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Yup, randomlove is definitly trolling.

Brain dead smuck! Obviously you never paid attention to anything i say as you wouldn't be so quick to judge. Move along you sheep! Humanity doesn't need your kind polluting the gene pool with dumb sprogs!

This has got to be the 3rd or 4th time I've tried to teach him how to spell "schmuck" but some people just never learn...  Grin Maybe we need to start a grammar and spelling for trolls 101 class on bitcointalk.
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April 17, 2014, 07:32:15 PM
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Yup, randomlove is definitly trolling.

Brain dead smuck! Obviously you never paid attention to anything i say as you wouldn't be so quick to judge. Move along you sheep! Humanity doesn't need your kind polluting the gene pool with dumb sprogs!

This has got to be the 3rd or 4th time I've tried to teach him how to spell "schmuck" but some people just never learn...  Grin Maybe we need to start a grammar and spelling for trolls 101 class on bitcointalk.

Yeah, he's hardly a master craftsman of the English language:

The truth smacks you in the face and you dismiss it. You see thats what they want you to do sheeple! Your all perfetic cowards! And that's just fact!

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April 17, 2014, 07:47:06 PM
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Never said i was, I know my flaws. Maths and Geometry lead me to the truth. Technology as served me well. English as always been the barrier of communication!

In fact, That is going be something i work on come to think of it. Thank you for pointing that out as im currently going teach myself some new stuff and that can be chucked in as well. I don't like it, i'm honest but it needs improvement as you point out.

Maybe i will return when i'm a lyrical master and truly be able to convince you i'm not a troll and maybe when you look back on what i have tried to show you and realise what i say is just trying make you see the world isn't as you have been made to believe!

Ill leave you to your hubris and show that i can be humble

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Never said i was, I know my flaws. Maths and Geometry lead me to the truth. Technology as served me well. English as always been the barrier of communication!

In fact, That is going be something i work on come to think of it. Thank you for pointing that out as im currently going teach myself some new stuff and that can be chucked in as well. I don't like it, i'm honest but it needs improvement as you point out.

Maybe i will return when i'm a lyrical master and truly be able to convince you i'm not a troll and maybe when you look back on what i have tried to show you and realise what i say is just trying make you see the world isn't as you have been made to believe!

Ill leave you to your hubris and show that i can be humble

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It's the way you aggressively deliver your message as if it's a scientific fact and anyone else who doesn't agree with it is an unenlightened fool. It makes you look like a troll whether you are or aren't one.

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April 17, 2014, 08:18:09 PM
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Uncontrolled Decompression Incidents Posted again for those that missed it buried in the garbage.

Far from unique there are plenty every year.

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Decompression incidents are not uncommon on military and civilian aircraft, with approximately 40–50 rapid decompression events occurring worldwide annually.  "Rapid Decompression In Air Transport Aircraft" (PDF). Aviation Medical Society of Australia and New Zealand. 2000-11-13. Retrieved 2008-09-01.[26]

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It helps put it in PERSPECTIVE.

A car can go missing right off a known travelled road and not discovered for 43 years. A plane can do the same. Let us not let the tinfoil hats win. A horrible accident happened. We need to know what happened to protect others from the potential maintenance or engineering flaw. It was NOT aliens, NOR conspiracies or any other BS story your imagination can come up with. I did my part by previously posting the list cabin depressurization accidents and it is not a short list by far and most probably fits this scenario although there maybe others. When you got a theory that relates to what is at least remotely plausible then let us talk about it. The theory I put forward has been put forward by commercial pilots as a plausible explanation. You have to start with the theory that makes some sense and is based on the facts as they are given.

A plane travels hours and crashes well off course in the Indian Ocean?

What does that sound like when you compare it to past events like this?

If I was going to believe anything then it would be fire and decompression and pilots become incapacitated for a plane to fly along then run out of fuel and crash that far off course.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10711590/Malaysia-Airlines-MH370-Cairo-777-cockpit-fire-could-yield-clues-to-missing-plane.html

http://www.wired.com/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/

I suggest when it is found they will find something like this as the cause. You don't need the god of the GAPS argument to make an educated guess. People are making educated guesses. LISTEN to them.


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There is no point speculating further until more evidence surfaces, but in the meantime it serves no purpose to malign pilots who well may have been in a struggle to save this aircraft from a fire or other serious mechanical issue. Capt. Zaharie Ahmad Shah was a hero struggling with an impossible situation trying to get that plane to Langkawi. There is no doubt in my mind. That’s the reason for the turn and direct route. A hijacking would not have made that deliberate left turn with a direct heading for Langkawi. It probably would have weaved around a bit until the hijackers decided where they were taking it.


http://www.wired.com/2014/03/malaysia-air/

All you have to do is educate yourself. Read widely be skeptical. Just don't ignore the obvious.

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It took investigators two years to recover the black box data recorder from Air France Flight 447, which went down over the Atlantic on June 1, 2009.

There is a lot here to respond to, so forgive me for the length  Shocked

The list you provided doesn't really show flights the same as MH370... sure, they are similar, but I guess I take a more defined approach with this thinking because I want to compare an 'apple' to an 'apple', and not an 'apple' that is somewhat similar to another apple.

To save my own time and sanity, I stuck with the accidents in the last 20-30 years that I am guessing you would see as similar to MH370.

If you go with the theory of decompression, I don't understand how the flight continues to move along the path they are acting like it took. Other incidents of a decompression incidents don't seem to show this behavior and typically result in emergency landings, not to mention the issue with the communications being disabled/etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight_522)
Rapid decompression
plenty of communication happened between the pilot and ground. Plenty of alarms, plenty of time for distress calls.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fokker_100
Rapid decompression
Safely landed... 1 killed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qantas_Flight_30'
Rapid decompression. Again, plenty of communication & time to deal with the situation, and a safe landing nobody hurt. (even with numerous oxygen masks not deploying)


If you go with the theory of an electrical fire + a decompression incident, I don't see how the plane goes on for 6+ hours and on the flight path they are stating.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Airlines_Flight_611
Explosive decompression - crashed quick.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800
Explosive decompression - crashed quick.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTA_Flight_772
Explosive decompression - crashed quick.  (I am seeing a pattern)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_811
Explosive decompression - well here goes my pattern. But, these guys made it safely and landed after a pretty extreme situation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103
Explosive decompression - I like this one, it does have *some* similarities... no signs of a distress signal, but again, plane crashed quick and hard 8 seconds after an explosion.

I may be able to accept a ghost flight without the fire, but without a fire then you can't explain the communications manually being turned off, which would imply a severe electrical fire or a hijacking.

Generally speaking, I find it hard to believe that a vicious fire could have taken out the crew without being able to send a distress signal, and then continue to fly on for 6+ hours until running out of gas.

If you show me an incident, in the past, which had some type of electrical fire and a decompression issue that incapacitated the crew quickly enough for them to not be able to send a distress signal AND force them to quickly disable electronics to stop a fire before sending a distress signal AND THEN having that plane somehow continue to fly for 6+ hours while making turns

... then I might be able to stop looking at this damn thread and maybe I can get some sleep tonight

Until then, IMO, your theory is just as flawed as the tinfoil hatters.  At this point, I haven't *accepted* any theory. Even though I do have my opinions. But anyone who has accepted 100% that this was an accident as you seem to have done, in my mind, isn't fully following through with their thought process.

I do hope some type of conclusive evidence will be shown to provide comfort for those families and the millions of people around the world scratching their head, but I really don't believe it will.  Sad

And one last thing
The link about the Egypt 777 flight, which was also a Boeing 777, and had an issue which is believed to be a short-circuit in the oxgyen line for the crew:

Wouldn't a fire of this caliber have killed the crew and took down the plane somewhat quickly. Major damage was caused to the Egypt 777 Boeing, which happened on the ground, and it took crews 90 minutes to get the fire under control.

Not so sure a fire like this is going to allow a plane to continue flying for 6+ hours.

BTW - imagination is a good thing to have if you use it correctly  Grin

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Never said i was, I know my flaws. Maths and Geometry lead me to the truth.

Good old maths!

Yeah, he's hardly a master craftsman of the English language:

The truth smacks you in the face and you dismiss it. You see thats what they want you to do sheeple! Your all perfetic cowards! And that's just fact!


My favorite has still got to be "neivity" or however the flaming fuck he spelled it.
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