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February 04, 2020, 03:33:49 AM |
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This black-mamba-challenge link directs to a forum of windice? Oh Jesus, not this thing again! We had literally the same thing at primedice and stake back in the day when they decided they don't want to care about bitcointalk and tried to get people to their own forum for some weird reason, why does these casinos want to have their own forum all the god damn time, you can use this forum as your own and write these things here as well. Now, they are doing "challenge" which literally what primedice did back in the day as well, and we need to "partner up" but that is not enough, both of those people have to register to windice forum and should be writing there as they are partners and contribute to their forum that way as well. Not only they are getting worse, they are also copying other websites on the bad parts of their websites as well. Hopefully they will figure things out and come back to good ways they used to run or this place will eventually get less and less people. You're right!!! In fact to my comment made earlier about not having many people signed up for the challenge this might be the exact reason. People like familiarity and don't want to sign up every time to everything and hosting it in their own forum just makes it less accessible. There’s nothing wrong with this strategy as many gambling sites prefer to build their own forums, as that helps in increasing their traffic base and even coming on google’s front page for various search results. Also marketing techniques remain the same in this industry so if PD has done it before it doesn’t mean Windice can’t do it again, and only after trying multiple strategies will they be able to finalise what works best for them.
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February 05, 2020, 02:27:29 PM |
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this has been done since the start of the website , all of the challenges are hosted at windice's forum or telegram / VK with rare exceptions its a common practice , almost every single casino is doing it and I have no idea what made wozzek so cross? he is unaware of the things called SEO and marketing , why post at a third party resource even as good as bitcointalk when you can post at your blog or forum and get additional views, visitors ,exposure and traffic ?
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February 05, 2020, 07:53:46 PM |
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This black-mamba-challenge link directs to a forum of windice? Oh Jesus, not this thing again! We had literally the same thing at primedice and stake back in the day when they decided they don't want to care about bitcointalk and tried to get people to their own forum for some weird reason, why does these casinos want to have their own forum all the god damn time, you can use this forum as your own and write these things here as well. Now, they are doing "challenge" which literally what primedice did back in the day as well, and we need to "partner up" but that is not enough, both of those people have to register to windice forum and should be writing there as they are partners and contribute to their forum that way as well. Not only they are getting worse, they are also copying other websites on the bad parts of their websites as well. Hopefully they will figure things out and come back to good ways they used to run or this place will eventually get less and less people. You're right!!! In fact to my comment made earlier about not having many people signed up for the challenge this might be the exact reason. People like familiarity and don't want to sign up every time to everything and hosting it in their own forum just makes it less accessible. There’s nothing wrong with this strategy as many gambling sites prefer to build their own forums, as that helps in increasing their traffic base and even coming on google’s front page for various search results. Also marketing techniques remain the same in this industry so if PD has done it before it doesn’t mean Windice can’t do it again, and only after trying multiple strategies will they be able to finalise what works best for them. I am not saying they should not do it because others did it, I am saying they should not do it because they already have a forum they keep posting and moving on from that to another forum just because it is theirs and makes no sense to me. I hate all the casinos that open their own forums, there is literally NO reason to do that at all aside from basically taking customers from a decentralized place where people can write whatever they want and move them to a centralized place where they can be monitored easier. It is really not that complicated to realize that windice wants the same thing other casinos wanted in this. I hope it fails spectacularly so that eventually nobody would be "forced" to do anything they don't want to do and be capable of attending these things here as well.
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livingfree
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February 05, 2020, 10:43:50 PM |
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I don't see the problem if they give tribute to the legend by having a challenge through their forum. That's the purpose of their forum and it's okay if they have it because it's their community just like they do for this forum and this thread.
And it's very simple, if you don't want to join, simply don't join.
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February 05, 2020, 11:08:52 PM |
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I don't see the problem if they give tribute to the legend by having a challenge through their forum. That's the purpose of their forum and it's okay if they have it because it's their community just like they do for this forum and this thread.
And it's very simple, if you don't want to join, simply don't join.
Regrading my comments earlier they were not pointing at a problem with this just the fact that using their own medium for the challenge might put people off from entering the challenge if they haven't already got an account with them and this is why possibly at the time when I checked the entries were so low. Though, of note, this observation was only circa 10h since launching.
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livingfree
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February 05, 2020, 11:15:43 PM |
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I don't see the problem if they give tribute to the legend by having a challenge through their forum. That's the purpose of their forum and it's okay if they have it because it's their community just like they do for this forum and this thread.
And it's very simple, if you don't want to join, simply don't join.
Regrading my comments earlier they were not pointing at a problem with this just the fact that using their own medium for the challenge might put people off from entering the challenge if they haven't already got an account with them and this is why possibly at the time when I checked the entries were so low. Though, of note, this observation was only circa 10h since launching. It is okay, I understand that and honestly it's not you that I'm pointing my reply but it's okay because we do have opinions regarding challenges like this and not everyone will be agreeing with the conditions. Anyway about the pointing out to their forum, it's part of their regulation so needless to say that it's part of the challenge and it's a requirement for only those who want to participate.
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SquallLeonhart
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February 06, 2020, 05:14:31 PM |
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That has always been the issue with these forums, people defend it by saying "if you don't want to join, just don't" but that is not the whole point. If we want to join but we don't want to go to their forum, what are we suppose to do?
Nobody talks about that, there must be some people who would join it on this website if it was allowed but do not want to go to their own forum as well, that is a demographic that windice is basically saying "you are no longer in our interest" and sets aside, we are literally as valuable to them now as a person who doesn't even play here. That is not something casinos should be able to do that easily without getting any sort of feedback, what were they expecting, every single people would love to jump ship and go to their forum instead without an issue?
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February 06, 2020, 11:40:18 PM |
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That has always been the issue with these forums, people defend it by saying "if you don't want to join, just don't" but that is not the whole point. If we want to join but we don't want to go to their forum, what are we suppose to do?
Nobody talks about that, there must be some people who would join it on this website if it was allowed but do not want to go to their own forum as well, that is a demographic that windice is basically saying "you are no longer in our interest" and sets aside, we are literally as valuable to them now as a person who doesn't even play here. That is not something casinos should be able to do that easily without getting any sort of feedback, what were they expecting, every single people would love to jump ship and go to their forum instead without an issue?
You are right if they are going with promo then surely they need to go with platform which is used for all activities instead of creating new forum for this all is not good they need to give tribute then just launch a campaign on site and tell members its just going to this its never been good we must go to forum and then able to participate in this tribute.
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February 10, 2020, 03:05:22 PM |
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They weren't really interested in bitcointalk to begin with anyway. I mean they have only came here time to time to let people know there is a competition going on and they also came here to notify who won and that was it. Just check their history of posts and you will realize that they don't really "chat" with people here, they don't listen to feedbacks or even if they end up listening to them they don't respond or even care about it. So, I guess having their own forum makes sense if it will help people get their voices heard which they couldn't otherwise do here. The perfect solution would have been hiring a community manager but I guess that is not an expense they would want or even care about doing in the first place. This could be at least best of a bad situation.
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Juggy777
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February 11, 2020, 02:46:43 AM |
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They weren't really interested in bitcointalk to begin with anyway. I mean they have only came here time to time to let people know there is a competition going on and they also came here to notify who won and that was it. Just check their history of posts and you will realize that they don't really "chat" with people here, they don't listen to feedbacks or even if they end up listening to them they don't respond or even care about it. So, I guess having their own forum makes sense if it will help people get their voices heard which they couldn't otherwise do here. The perfect solution would have been hiring a community manager but I guess that is not an expense they would want or even care about doing in the first place. This could be at least best of a bad situation.
I believe that it’s wrong to say that they’re not interested in Bitcointalk just because they don’t reply to each and every comment posted here, as I have often seen casinos offer much better support when you ask them on their site. Further having their own forum helps them increase their user base, and at the end of the day it’s their site and they have full rights to market it in the way they feel right so I’m failing to understand what are you’ll complaining about?.
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February 11, 2020, 03:24:08 AM |
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They weren't really interested in bitcointalk to begin with anyway. I mean they have only came here time to time to let people know there is a competition going on and they also came here to notify who won and that was it. Just check their history of posts and you will realize that they don't really "chat" with people here, they don't listen to feedbacks or even if they end up listening to them they don't respond or even care about it. So, I guess having their own forum makes sense if it will help people get their voices heard which they couldn't otherwise do here. The perfect solution would have been hiring a community manager but I guess that is not an expense they would want or even care about doing in the first place. This could be at least best of a bad situation.
This again, the community manager suggestion was discussed before and they're not interested in hiring one. From what i've seen their moderators are the acting community managers. They do read the suggestions here's a quote from one of their old post. I guess they're not that vocal unlike the other admins but I don't see anything wrong with it though. We read everything ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Now we are testing dates and prizes
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February 11, 2020, 05:17:25 AM |
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Just check their history of posts and you will realize that they don't really "chat" with people here, they don't listen to feedbacks or even if they end up listening to them they don't respond or even care about it.
If they will answer here and reply to the issues being raised by Windice users that will beat the purpose of having a support link within their site. Furthermore that will add burden to their support team as they will also monitor this thread for any issues or concern being raised. Imagine filtering the posts here on which one is a legitimate issue or someone just want to bring down Windice because they had a bad day. Unlike answering issues from their support link within the site, it makes it official and they are sure that they are dealing with someone who has an account with them and not just a troll. I just want to be clear, I am not part of Windice or related to them in any way.
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February 11, 2020, 05:27:32 AM |
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I thought that windice will just let the valentines day pass without having any challenge at all. But I'm wrong with that you have brought again another challenge to your dicers. ~snip~
You can easily reach them out on the platform itself and this thread on BTT is another medium for their updates and customers to reach out. But if you want quicker action, it's best to contact their support.
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February 11, 2020, 03:04:56 PM |
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I thought that windice will just let the valentines day pass without having any challenge at all. But I'm wrong with that you have brought again another challenge to your dicers. ~snip~
You can easily reach them out on the platform itself and this thread on BTT is another medium for their updates and customers to reach out. But if you want quicker action, it's best to contact their support. @livingfree you are right they have good and active support as in early days I was also involve in this dice game and have some problems but support response was very quick and positive this forum is used for only marekting purpose nothing else if someone have problem 24 hours online chat is also working for all issues.
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February 11, 2020, 04:43:17 PM |
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I thought that windice will just let the valentines day pass without having any challenge at all. But I'm wrong with that you have brought again another challenge to your dicers. ~snip~
You can easily reach them out on the platform itself and this thread on BTT is another medium for their updates and customers to reach out. But if you want quicker action, it's best to contact their support. @livingfree you are right they have good and active support as in early days I was also involve in this dice game and have some problems but support response was very quick and positive this forum is used for only marekting purpose nothing else if someone have problem 24 hours online chat is also working for all issues. And this is great because that's what you expect from a a casino with decent games and customer base. Also, these guys have been in the game for a while already so this level of support it's expected ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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February 11, 2020, 07:10:17 PM |
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Just because they are "reading everything" which we can't really be sure about, doesn't mean they care about it neither. The amount of people who are fine with them never responding here about anything is staggeringly scary, this is a topic that you yourself would get some sort of help and not hurting you so normally you should be supportive of it.
How could it ever hurt you that windice having a PR person or a community manager to come here and constantly talk with you and building a bridge between customers that are on bitcointalk and the windice team itself? It can't hurt you, it could only help you.
So, instead of trying to defend windice for lack of responses and help, the sheer example of them building their own forum to get further away from here, maybe you should instead support the person trying to help you, me, and everyone else?
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February 11, 2020, 11:23:45 PM |
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Just because they are "reading everything" which we can't really be sure about, doesn't mean they care about it neither. The amount of people who are fine with them never responding here about anything is staggeringly scary, this is a topic that you yourself would get some sort of help and not hurting you so normally you should be supportive of it.
How could it ever hurt you that windice having a PR person or a community manager to come here and constantly talk with you and building a bridge between customers that are on bitcointalk and the windice team itself? It can't hurt you, it could only help you.
So, instead of trying to defend windice for lack of responses and help, the sheer example of them building their own forum to get further away from here, maybe you should instead support the person trying to help you, me, and everyone else?
windice can do this all as I check we have many other dice casino and sportsbook they all doing this very actively because believe its very important for marketing purpose we can hope from them they will surely do this in near future for better response and new ideas from this forum about their site.
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livingfree
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February 12, 2020, 06:17:34 PM |
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I thought that windice will just let the valentines day pass without having any challenge at all. But I'm wrong with that you have brought again another challenge to your dicers. ~snip~
You can easily reach them out on the platform itself and this thread on BTT is another medium for their updates and customers to reach out. But if you want quicker action, it's best to contact their support. @livingfree you are right they have good and active support as in early days I was also involve in this dice game and have some problems but support response was very quick and positive this forum is used for only marekting purpose nothing else if someone have problem 24 hours online chat is also working for all issues. Yes. They are responsive and some other casinos do have their own forum too for their community to follow and monitor. That's why it's not actually a bad thing they have their own forum so that you can also complain there if you have a bad experience with them. But the best and quickest way to approach them is through their live support.
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February 13, 2020, 08:29:20 AM |
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They do read the suggestions here's a quote from one of their old post. I guess they're not that vocal unlike the other admins but I don't see anything wrong with it though. We read everything ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Now we are testing dates and prizes They will read here, they will even make changes according to stuff they read here, that is given and kudos to them for doing it like that. However, not responding is not really way to go about that. Just to give an example, lets say someone says "it would be great to have a XYZ game here" and they read this and see that people agree and they read that and decide that it is actually good idea to add that XYZ game and they move on and tell the developers to build that and in the end months later they have that game. Now that sounds good right? What about them also saying here after someone asked "we have decided to make the XYZ game, it will be ready in some months" to let people know? Would that be too hard? Or too difficult for them? It would be very easy, and yet they would still not do that, that is the problem.
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