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Author Topic: [BCN] Bytecoin. Secure, private, untraceable since 2012  (Read 1070246 times)
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September 05, 2015, 11:47:25 PM
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This part was funny... lol

Look at how hard they were trying to sell the fact that BCN was around in 2012.

I was around in 2012 on the crypto scene and Bytecoin was no where to be found. If it existed it was only accessible to very few individuals and was not publicly announced to all prior to launch (like any and every fair launched coin).
Seeing the "fast" advancement of Monero within the year and a half of existence, the probability of Bytecoin being launched in 2012 is not small at all.

No one here says Bytecoin was launched publicly.

For me "fair launched coins" are extremely stupid in the current situation, almost fully controlled by speculators, who add no value to the product itself. Should the inventors invest millions of dollars just to be part of their own project?
I prefer the developers have enough money to get the development going. It is my personal choice and I think all who stick around this thread share this view. If you prefer "fair launched coins" go to XMR/XDN/BBR/DSH. The choice is so simple.

Also, it is very likely Bytecoins devs' vision is not 'one will rule them all' as opposed to Monero devs' vision. 'One will rule them all' is just a way to enslave users.

Wow you do sound pretty butthurt. Nowhere did I mention anything about Monero yet you jumped on Monero so fast.

Very telling.

So you think it is stupid to publicly (and beforehand) launch  a coin? And it is stupid because it would be controlled by speculators? Because speculators add NO VALUE to the coin?

1. Publicly launching a coin shows trust (transparency). Any coin that is launched in secrecy with a huge 80% premine is essentially a scam as the coin now is centralized by supply (few people hold the majority of all of the BCN to ever be put into circulation).

2. How is it stupid to launch publicly because it would be controlled by speculators? Isn't BCN now being public essentially open to speculators? Sounds like double talk.

3. Speculators do add value as they bring money to the market. If there is no money to trade for the coin then essentially there is less value. Depends on what you define as value. Money in many markets, when it is brought to that market, does add value.

The free market is speaking very clearly given the amount of non-support ByteCoin has currently. The free-market is what matters.

If Bytecoin was such a good option for more people to use THEY WOULD BE USING IT and NOT MONERO.


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Nowhere did I mention anything about Nowhere did I mention anything about Monero yet you jumped on Monero so fast.
Since Monero is the biggest example of "fairly launched coin" in the Cryptonote space what should I compare Bytecoin to?
I can compare it to Boolberry also, which is almost completely dead because of the "fair launch" and 0 support from the speculators to the developer.
It is comparable to Dashcoin, but there is 0 support from speculator to developers also
It is incomparable to DigitalNote, because it use proof of stake.
It is incomparable to AEON, because the coin died because of the fair launch and it had to be mined for over half year from 5 people at most to be resurrected. So the coin distribution is certainly worst than Bytecoin.

What are you suggesting as good option for comparing?
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Nowhere did I mention anything about Nowhere did I mention anything about Monero yet you jumped on Monero so fast.
Since Monero is the biggest example of "fairly launched coin" in the Cryptonote space what should I compare Bytecoin to?
I can compare it to Boolberry also, which is almost completely dead because of the "fair launch" and 0 support from the speculators to the developer.
It is comparable to Dashcoin, but there is 0 support from speculator to developers also
It is incomparable to DigitalNote, because it use proof of stake.
It is incomparable to AEON, because the coin died because of the fair launch and it had to be mined for over half year from 5 people at most to be resurrected. So the coin distribution is certainly worst than Bytecoin.

What are you suggesting as good option for comparing?

Simple: I never insinuated to compare bytecoin to anything nor suggested it.


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September 08, 2015, 06:50:46 AM
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Everyday i`m reading about bcn this and that if you don`t like stay away..
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It is comparable to Dashcoin, but there is 0 support from speculator to developers also

Dashcoin has a little bit of twist..indirect devs of dashcoin are bytecoin devs..

anyway bytecoin development is on fire  Cool... and dashcoin thank you for all of that.
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September 09, 2015, 12:51:25 AM
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It is comparable to Dashcoin, but there is 0 support from speculator to developers also

Dashcoin has a little bit of twist..indirect devs of dashcoin are bytecoin devs..

anyway bytecoin development is on fire  Cool... and dashcoin thank you for all of that.

it's just another premined scam. You people amaze me with your constant stupidity. I should stop watching this thread but it's fascinating watching a major scam keep going forever!  Tongue

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September 09, 2015, 01:53:55 AM
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It is comparable to Dashcoin, but there is 0 support from speculator to developers also

Dashcoin has a little bit of twist..indirect devs of dashcoin are bytecoin devs..

anyway bytecoin development is on fire  Cool... and dashcoin thank you for all of that.

it's just another premined scam. You people amaze me with your constant stupidity. I should stop watching this thread but it's fascinating watching a major scam keep going forever!  Tongue

Nope it is not, mined and watched DSH since its launch...it is really fascinating that bytecoin is still going on though.
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I`m still making money on it so i`m here to stay Smiley
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September 10, 2015, 04:47:36 PM
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----Beware of this pool -------

Been waiting to receive close to 50,000 mined BCN from these chumps at http://bytecoin.xminingpool.com/

Emailed support no response.....Just a warning - been over 30 days now and nothing in the wallet.

Today put in the wallet address and there's nothing there. Vanished GOX style.

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I think it`s better to use some verify pool
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----Beware of this pool -------

Been waiting to receive close to 50,000 mined BCN from these chumps at http://bytecoin.xminingpool.com/

Emailed support no response.....Just a warning - been over 30 days now and nothing in the wallet.

Today put in the wallet address and there's nothing there. Vanished GOX style.

Hi crazyhashmanz,

We've got an issue with our email support and some tickets got lost along the way. We apologize for it and for the inconvenience it caused you.

Everything is working properly now and you can contact our email support one more time. Or, you can contact me here directly if you'd like.

Once again, sorry for inconvenience.
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September 11, 2015, 10:26:02 AM
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For me "fair launched coins" are extremely stupid in the current situation ... I prefer the developers have enough money to get the development going.

Okay, then maybe the BCN devs should have been up front about having built BCN in 2013 and launched it in 2014 with a massive premine, instead of a fake blockchain, a bullshit story about two years in the deep web, and then trying to sell said story by manipulated press, trying to "slip it in" to Wikipedia, etc. and even now creating new zero-activity sock puppets to continue the same tired nonsense about "the probability of Bytecoin being launched in 2012 is not small".

Ethereum was up front about wanting money for development. They got $15 million ICO and nice premine on top. They didn't need to scam and neither did you. You chose to, and while it could possibly have worked, it is understandable you're now disappointed that it didn't and you got busted. Too bad. Go scam somewhere else.


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Hello!

I just tried to test RPC Wallet.

I so sad to inform you about errors in current version [PaymentService v1.0.7.564()].

I use Windows version.

First of all it doesn't work as Win service. At all.

Second issue is much worse - amount of money sent to wallets does not equal amount received.

So I advice everybody not to use RPC Wallet at present time Sad

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I've already answered to your blog comment, so let me quote my message for your convenience:

Hello!

I just tried to test RPC Wallet.

I so sad to inform you about errors in current version [PaymentService v1.0.7.564()].

I use Windows version.

First of all it doesn't work as Win service. At all.

Second issue is much worse - amount of money sent to wallets does not equal amount received.

So I advice everybody not to use RPC Wallet at present time Sad

Thank you for the feedback.

First of all, the latest version of RPC Wallet, which is available for download on the website is v.1.0.8.1.614().

>Second issue is much worse - amount of money sent to wallets does not equal amount received.

Could you provide more details? Do you mean that let's say you make a transfer for 1000 coins, but the recipient gets another amount? Or is it your issue that the transaction in the block explorer shows higher amount than you were sending?

The second case is a completely valid CryptoNote protocol behavior. When you send a transaction, it further conceals the sum by increasing the original amount. The difference is returned back to your wallet as an unlinkable change.

>First of all it doesn't work as Win service. At all.

What is the Win version that you are using? Could you elaborate on the steps you made?

Bytecoin BCN core team: https://bytecoin.org/
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Post my answers @ https://bytecoin.org/blog/cryptonote-aggregate-addresses-whitepaper/

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September 22, 2015, 08:28:12 PM
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So what does this mean? No activity in this topic for 8 days + massive dumps going on.
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September 22, 2015, 08:37:07 PM
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So what does this mean? No activity in this topic for 8 days + massive dumps going on.

Maybe people are finally wising up to the scammy smell lingering about this coin?  Roll Eyes

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September 23, 2015, 10:53:59 AM
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So what does this mean? No activity in this topic for 8 days + massive dumps going on.

Bytecoin community has their own forum now: https://bytecointalk.org/

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September 23, 2015, 01:21:56 PM
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So what does this mean? No activity in this topic for 8 days + massive dumps going on.

Bytecoin community has their own forum now: https://bytecointalk.org/
And that explains the dumps how exactly?
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September 23, 2015, 02:13:16 PM
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So what does this mean? No activity in this topic for 8 days + massive dumps going on.

Bytecoin community has their own forum now: https://bytecointalk.org/
And that explains the dumps how exactly?

It explains lack of activity in this topic.

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