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April 28, 2019, 08:19:31 PM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

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April 28, 2019, 08:30:46 PM
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this is one of the major reason why many people want regulation to enforced so that investors will stop losing money to scammers. this is one of the reasons why SEC has come out to try and regulate crypto activities and we have seen the effect of this on the market and also some project owners and left the project and ran away while some have been apprehended, others will soon be caught. this things have changed because of the fear of SEC.
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April 28, 2019, 08:31:37 PM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

You don't have to invest in an ICO to join the crypto market. You can also invest in solid / well known coins. so the ico debacle shouldn't be the reason to gain more crypto investors. but you are right, ico scammers should be followed harder and get a fair punishment.
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April 28, 2019, 08:37:36 PM
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It's about legal actions, most of investors let scammers running away for free maybe because they have just invested couple hundred or they think "ah no problem, just a small money". Maybe regulations from each country is needed to prevent scam project getting funded. However, there are still many countries that blinded by fiat and see that cryptocurrency is a garbage or a useless product and end up banning cryptocurrency.

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April 28, 2019, 08:56:52 PM
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It's about legal actions, most of investors let scammers running away for free maybe because they have just invested couple hundred or they think "ah no problem, just a small money". Maybe regulations from each country is needed to prevent scam project getting funded. However, there are still many countries that blinded by fiat and see that cryptocurrency is a garbage or a useless product and end up banning cryptocurrency.
It is like imagining there would be no murders because of cops. The regulation will calm the situation, but the scammers will continue again. Anyway, if you want to walk around places that are not scam, trading money pairs will be better. Because it is normal to encounter scammers in the decentralized system.
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April 28, 2019, 09:03:36 PM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

I think Cryptocurrency decentralized nature doesn't really allow relevant authorities to actions on these scammers as much as we would like. Recently, I read in the news that Bitconnect CEO is still facing legal battles after being indicted in ICO scam


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April 28, 2019, 09:12:09 PM
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ugh
why is this in altcoin discussion?
wrong board you cuck
should be rep or meta or something
but definitally not alt discussion
Move your post to proper board by option in bottom left of your OP


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April 28, 2019, 09:13:06 PM
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I don't think that we could really do anything about it besides we don't even know if the name that they put on their informations is real.
What if the name or picture on their informations are fake and the cops made some move to arrest them,They could arrest some innocent people because of this fake informations.

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April 28, 2019, 10:15:28 PM
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Yes, and i believe that was the real reason for the big scamming situation in 2018. Think about that, you steal money from the public and no one can stop you or punish you. ı believe that after the first Scam in the blockchain history started this because there was no penaalty for that. After the bad people learn that, they all started to produce scam projects or when they collect money from the people they just ran away with those money.
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April 28, 2019, 10:15:32 PM
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Your friends are doing it correctly, they shouldn't invest to something that they doubt and aware of what's the current situation. It is no longer a hidden situation that the ICO market is full of crap projects that are likely to be scam.

Few are probably legitimate projects but they are rare to find because of the vast projects that keep on coming to the crypto market. There are gov't agencies that are following some project developers and would probably sue them.

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April 28, 2019, 10:22:19 PM
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The only way for them is to die because we don't have any choice they are very harmful to the crypto since last few years ago and until now. That's one od the reason why people are scared to enter to the crypto because they have a lot of scammer that saw in the news and even my friends that I want to invite at the cryptocurrency their mindset is their money will be scammed beacuse their think bitcoin is using to scam people.
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April 28, 2019, 10:31:47 PM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
It is very easy for scammers to run away with people's funds because there is no central regulator monitoring the activities of cryptocurrency worldwide including any form of token sales.

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April 28, 2019, 10:51:37 PM
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Without regulations scammers could run away with the funds  and this is the main reason investors lost their trust in ICOs. The new, more trusted  model of investing is through IEOs, where exchanges are supervising the process.
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April 28, 2019, 10:57:17 PM
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I'm not sure what you really said. Scammers will always be there, no matter what rule/law is applied. You must have done proper analysis before investing your money, it's your money, your responsibility. If people do enough research, they will barely lose or be scammed.

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April 28, 2019, 11:47:53 PM
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i believe scamming activities has reduced now in cryptocurrency because people are now wiser and things have changed so it will be difficult to perform any type of scamming. SEC will hunt them down.

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April 29, 2019, 01:50:09 AM
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That's none reason to not to invest. Scammers to some extent are being sought after depending on the jurisdiction they belong to. But as we realize the crypto nature, it's largely the investors who should research enough before investing in any project. Crypto was a get rich quick scheme in the past but is not as now.


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April 29, 2019, 01:55:50 AM
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It is so sad that many people are trying to earn in a legal way and then this scammers just do fraudulent things and make scam thingy and just get some other people's money for free. I think there is no law for scammers online, yet they are continuing what they do to make easy money from what they scammed. But i hope they would come such time that scammers can get rid off and be banned forever here.
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April 29, 2019, 02:27:12 AM
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That's one of the risk in joining crypto specially if you are joining ICOs wherein it is not regulated by law so that means it is hard for us to prosecute those scammers with bags of money. I've been there, cryptassist had a great project but suddenly the devs are gone even the CEO but I am still here trying my luck and using some of my knowledge to earn more in crypto. It is still up to the person if they want to believe or not.
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April 29, 2019, 02:41:07 AM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
If only we have a governing body that will prosecute these ICO scammers, ICO will be ok and many investors will not shift to IEO or STO all investors wants a safe environment when investing, and they are more than willing to support and pour money in ICO.

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April 29, 2019, 02:43:53 AM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
Then try to encourage your friends to invest with bitcoin and other altcoins than to introduce him to fake projects and scam ICO's, he might be missing something if he will only focus on the scam projects. We know that those scammers are there with shitcoins so if you are a wise investors you will put your money on those sure coins that is already in the market. I will not introduce cryptocurrency to my friends on an ICO way because that's a bad side of the market.

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difficult, because there is no clear legal basis at the beginning. so that there will be no responsibility for any crime in the ico project. and the most common thing was that the team ran away with ico funds and then the participants got nothing, I once received such cheating.

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April 29, 2019, 02:47:12 AM
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In as much that there are a lot scammers in the crypto space, both old and new investors should understand that this world we live in is made up different kind of people with different mind set on how to earnn money. we are all in charge of our own safety and we should understand risks in the crypto space and also make it possible to avoid investing into projects we have little knowledge about.  If you allow yourself, you will get scammed off your money.
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Fraudsters are very troubling and we have trouble catching them. There must be rules that can limit scammers and even eliminate scammers. So if there is no scammer, of course, investors will trust Crypto again. So investors also increase their investment.
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April 29, 2019, 04:27:42 AM
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there are many scammers who can run away because there is no definite law, cryptocurrency
so security forces such as the police and others also cannot just take action,
I am not surprised by this, but because many of the cases scammers that appear have made me more careful.

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April 29, 2019, 04:30:50 AM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
From what i know CEO of Zenminer and Paycoin (XPY) Josh Garza was arrested in past. I think for now, scammers or maybe bad developers, not means to say all developers is bad. But some of them can run free because their disclaimer in Whitepaper that said if investor take responsibility of their investment by themself.

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April 29, 2019, 04:35:23 AM
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Scammers can run freely and easily after they make to scam people because there are no consequences on what they do, or there are no offense put unto them so they can get right away on doing fraudulent act. I hope there are moderators out here that investigates the personal information of people who are scammers and blocked them in all of projects, blocked all their accounts and also ban them from joining in any projects.
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April 29, 2019, 04:39:28 AM
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They still free to go as long as there's investors who will not be careful supporting their projects, there's no concrete rulings for  those people, scammers will do their best to hide their real intentions, we need to start moving forward not to encourage them to keep popping around the market, stay with projects that already have good platform and projects that really progressing, limit your investment with ico's or types of project that doesn't have any
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April 29, 2019, 04:50:34 AM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

I agree. This is one drawback of crypto being (pseudo) anonymous is that people behind can just run off with investors money. So that's why we need to DYOR and investigate first before we invest our hard earn money here. There could be crypto regulations that can help at least minimised those scammers, however, this is a on-going debate in the community. So just be careful out there.

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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
There are still scammers here because crypto is not regulated yet.
I believe we can still convince our friends to invest in crypto, but this time not in ICO, buying bitcoin and solid projects in the altcoins market now is a good decision because the timing is correct, market is a little bit bullish son it has a good momentum and price could rise.

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April 29, 2019, 05:14:36 AM
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Now I strongly believe on crypto regulations for crypto currency long run . I have seen lots of ico in 2017 and 2018 they rais d huge money now they now disappeared one of the project I sen is hero or paw hero project raised more than 50 million now they disappeared with investors money net even lots of projects.
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April 29, 2019, 05:27:43 AM
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Its not a must for your friends to invest in ICO to join crypto world ,ICO is not only the source available, we have other ways and tell your friends that they might just buy top 10 coins and tokens to lower the risk

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April 29, 2019, 05:58:24 AM
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Whatever they do makes many people suffer. We must take concrete actions more carefully and not be easy to trust others. The online world has big profits but there are also risks. Crypto has been going on for a long time and scammers have been around for a long time. We have to do research and if you are in doubt it is better to choose another project.

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April 29, 2019, 06:11:23 AM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

I have been saying this for long...the whole industry has to do concrete steps to contain these scammers otherwise the bright future we are looking for can be compromised as many victims are scared to get back into investing again and the reputation of cryptocurrency is being damaged. The problem starts with the fact that it is easy to start a project and proceed to crowdsale without getting vetted or getting the necessary permits to show that the people behind the project are real and not hiding anything. There must be a way a KYC for these project proponents instead of just requiring us to submit documents I think we should also require these people to do the same.
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April 29, 2019, 06:48:18 AM
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ICO causes people a lot of negative emotions. Most of them do not even enter the market and simply go nowhere with the money of investors. Those ICOs that enter the market cost many times less than what was stated in ICO.

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April 29, 2019, 06:50:00 AM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
That is not the real investors for me. Because the real investors will do a research for him to not get scam by those ICO. Investors now are staying away with ICO's because they know there are so many of them that are just scamming people. Scammers will not stop but if you take precautions for sure you will just ignore them.
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April 29, 2019, 06:52:25 AM
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The issue of scam in crypto sphere is as old as the crypto itself. It will be difficult to eliminate scam because scammers are coming up with different methods everyday.
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April 29, 2019, 06:54:33 AM
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I think it's very difficult to dismiss scamers because they have many ways in this field. besides that I think there is no law for scammers in this forum so that we as bounty hunters can only avoid all things that are suspicious about the bounty program.
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April 29, 2019, 06:56:57 AM
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The issue is getting very serious every day. But it seems no authorities are concerned about it. Every now and then, scammers are taking away hard earned money from investors and bounty hunters through traps they have placed. What is interesting is that they are freely operating their fraud business and newcomers keep falling prey to them. Authorities should take initiatives.

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April 29, 2019, 06:57:49 AM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
ICO is not only way of crypto investments there are other hundred methods available for you to invest.

You can invest on bitcoin if you have spare money for some kind of investment in long term to make huge profits which is not possible on any other investments.

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April 29, 2019, 07:07:48 AM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
The problem with fraud in ICO projects is now the main problem of ICO activities and the development of cryptocurrency in general. The only solution to this issue is to regulate the activities of ICO by government agencies. They can completely rid ICO of fraudsters. In the meantime, states are not in a hurry to protect investors of ICO projects from fraudsters. They benefit from compromising decentralized cryptocurrency, but they will still be forced to respond to the commission of crimes by fraudsters. The situation is complicated by the fact that these are international crimes. The victims are located in different countries, and it is very difficult to establish the location of the crime and the identity of the criminals.

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Authorities should take steps to discourage and stop scammers at the earliest. The sooner scammers are caught and booked, the better cryptocurrency world will become. Scammers are tainting cryptocurrency market, making investors think twice to invest. Institutional investors are still afraid of investing. So action should be taken against scammers. Strict regulations should be in place. 

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dont invest in ico.. that simple.. if no one will invest, no scammers.. simple.. if that scammers is running free then you have to file a case against them

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Where there is money, there is a crime. Scammers are everywhere and that's the reason why we have to be alert and smart all the time.
Investing is a risk because even scammers are entering it at times. We have to be observant and alert all the time.
Having enough knowledge about crypto is our advantage.
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April 29, 2019, 11:28:07 AM
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Where there is money, there is a crime. Scammers are everywhere and that's the reason why we have to be alert and smart all the time.
Investing is a risk because even scammers are entering it at times. We have to be observant and alert all the time.
Having enough knowledge about crypto is our advantage.
Having good understanding will  extend your chance to be able to invest properly, scammers is like ordinary investors who also looking for opportunities, they are here for the same reason, they want to earned but unlike from investors and traders they dint want fair ways but to get it quicker.
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April 29, 2019, 12:19:23 PM
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ICO is not the only way to invest actually you can invest to many things such as bitcoin and ethereum or in other words stable projects. In investing there's no such things as safe investment in order for us to earn we should be able to face risk and follow our guts, also we should not be dumb and before investing to a certain project we should already know and do a research about that project itself.
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

I really wonder, no scammers getting behind bars. There should someone catched for doing this.

Also, for your friends, they can act safe. Like putting money in binance, buying btc and holding on their wallet. That can't be scammed. And they shouldn't touch any ico's.

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April 29, 2019, 12:29:28 PM
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That's how the crypto works. Where there is an internet, there is scammer. Don't be curious if there are so many scammers outta here. Day by day, and each seconds they are trying to scam.
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April 29, 2019, 12:32:31 PM
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Regulation, first of all, needs to be introduced not for investors, but for project managers. What would have been an inevitable punishment for the organizers of fraudulent schemes. It is necessary to return the trust to the ICO.
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Scammers in cryptocurrencies have a bad effect on the whole sphere. However, if the world government begins to regulate cryptocurrency, it will be the end.

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April 29, 2019, 01:16:11 PM
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dont invest in ico.. that simple.. if no one will invest, no scammers.. simple.. if that scammers is running free then you have to file a case against them
Not all ICOs are a scam and there is no single reason to blame the ICOs due to scam projects. Investors are responsible for their investments and scam projects can't hunt the experienced investors.
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
we need regulation of ico's, for the developers of the project atleast, so if they try to scam their investors they wouldn't get away with it, and hopefully they would be able to give their money back to the investors, you should tell your friends don't bother investing in ico's because most of them are scam and if not the developers are lazy with their project, it's better to invest in established projects instead.
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April 29, 2019, 01:21:42 PM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
Yes this is the only one reason for that many countries Government try to avoid crypto. If the cause will be solved in the future then crypto will be more popular in all country. Hope we will see the day soon when we can Identify all ico team easily before invest and Government also can take any step against ICO scammers.

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April 29, 2019, 01:21:50 PM
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According to the articles that I've read online a few months back and according to my experience, ICO is a very dangerous kind of investment since you're not either sure if after the ICO the project will be successful or not, many will use the project/coin or not, etc. also there are some professional scammers who are making a promising project and have a professional whitepaper as well as fake team but in the end it will end up a scam.

If the project is successful and listed on exchange, I've experienced a 95% loss from my original investment... So I may say that if you're going to invest just invest into trading and to a coins that has a large volume such as Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, EOS, etc.

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April 29, 2019, 02:49:21 PM
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This is why some want to government need to be involved here so police can take actions whenever there are scammers. Some projects are being ended up to being scam once they are not able to reach their target some are just planning to skip regardless if they reach the target or not.
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April 29, 2019, 02:55:35 PM
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Regulation, first of all, needs to be introduced not for investors, but for project managers. What would have been an inevitable punishment for the organizers of fraudulent schemes. It is necessary to return the trust to the ICO.

Strongly agree, because what makes the promotion of fraud is the manager so that investors are always victims, so it is appropriate to be given a punishment for the promotion, because experienced managers will certainly find out about the clarity of the project before being promoted.
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
well, I would say that they aren't running free,they have not just been caught yet in my own opinions. But yet some of them have been caught and prosecuted also more reasons why regulations are needed

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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
Same me scared of scammers. I have joined many sites of  cryptocurrency even don't know which is real one,Also i cannot suggest to my friend who are asking me for real site to invest i always get confused Anyone know how to get rid of scammers?  Sad
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April 29, 2019, 03:20:38 PM
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Regulation, first of all, needs to be introduced not for investors, but for project managers. What would have been an inevitable punishment for the organizers of fraudulent schemes. It is necessary to return the trust to the ICO.

Strongly agree, because what makes the promotion of fraud is the manager so that investors are always victims, so it is appropriate to be given a punishment for the promotion, because experienced managers will certainly find out about the clarity of the project before being promoted.
I do not think that it is possible to recognize. Now scammers are hiding very seriously. Very often, even after collecting money, they pay for listing the project on the exchange, but then they leave with investors' money.

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April 29, 2019, 03:38:20 PM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
We cannot stop a scammer, the only thing we can do is warned newbies so that he doesn't make a mistake in investing.
and if your friend waits until the scammers disappear then don't invite him into the crypto world.
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April 29, 2019, 03:42:17 PM
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Investors just need to stop investing in questionable projects. There is a golden rule: not sure about the project, do not invest. And if you invest in ICO, do not invest more than you are willing to lose. Follow these rules and you will always be on top.

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April 29, 2019, 04:17:56 PM
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Yes. The world always has many frauds and frauds. And in this market too, scammers always exist around us, so you have to know how to distinguish those people from good people so you can invest your money smartly. Even so, when the market goes through more years, Scammer will not survive, because most people know how to fight them. I hope that this market will soon sweep out Scammer guys soon to come up quickly
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Well indeed we need that scam somehow to be stopped on crypto world, and i think a step is for people who join and want to invest to do research and never invest on something where they can't do research or don't know if is ok to invest. And if will be possible i wish that scammers get arrested.
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April 29, 2019, 05:09:47 PM
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I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever

Such friends don't need to be dissuaded forever, if they keep running away, then they are losing totally because the greatest risk is not to take a risk at all.

They can do research on the project they want to invest on.
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We have long time needed to stop supporting all projects, let it be only those where the CEO is an officially registered person, so that he can be punished.
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Some kinda crypto police you meant?you don't have to worry this will be fixed sooner or later ,apart from SEC I'm sure scammers will have no safe haven anymore ,in time we will have solution
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tell me one thing why these Scams are still going on? well, its because these are profitable to them. imagine running a signature camp and not actually paying anything. you will get users info, their documents(because of KYC) and their other useful recourses and time. people are actually working for free advertisement. if you hate this then get some skills and try a hard way like job4btc.
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Some kinda crypto police you meant?you don't have to worry this will be fixed sooner or later ,apart from SEC I'm sure scammers will have no safe haven anymore ,in time we will have solution

ROFL... do you really think that the SEC will be worried about bounty hunters not getting their rewards? That's not the case. Unless some Wall street whale losses at least a few million USD in one of those scam ICOs, the SEC is not going to do anything. And regarding the sig campaigns, they can always say that no monetary losses resulted from the scam.
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April 29, 2019, 05:35:38 PM
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Yes. The world always has many frauds and frauds. And in this market too, scammers always exist around us, so you have to know how to distinguish those people from good people so you can invest your money smartly. Even so, when the market goes through more years, Scammer will not survive, because most people know how to fight them. I hope that this market will soon sweep out Scammer guys soon to come up quickly

That is why we need to research more about the project or groups so we can prevent from getting scam. The scammers will always try to steal people's money in many ways, and it is our job to be careful to decide. As long as we can be careful, I am sure that the scammers cannot get our money and they will hide for a while until they find a new way to scam people again.

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April 29, 2019, 05:48:04 PM
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I think there have been few that got arrested as well but it all depends on the country and the laws.

For example, if I am not wrong there was this cloud mining operation something like zenhash or something, I am not entirely sure about the name but they scammed their customers via cloud mining operation far exceeding what they had and built like a ponzi scheme on that and when they couldn't pay people and suddenly crashed all prices they were sued and authorities were given the information and they got literal jail sentence for it and in jail because of it.

Now that is not common but mt.gox was sued as well and I guess karpeles has some jail time too (not sure about this) but definitely got sued and went to court, so there are examples of trouble for scammers but that is not stopping them at all in third world countries for example.

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April 29, 2019, 06:01:46 PM
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Unfortunately, this is what the industry has become as a result of no genuine presence of regulations. Scams have taken over ranging from the floating/introduction of fake projects with dubious intentions down to porosity of project security leading to unscrupulous elements defrauding and hacking people's wealth and assets. This menace will keep going unabated until somehow there are introductions and guidelines to professional and acceptable practices in the industry.
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April 29, 2019, 06:41:56 PM
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this is the main problem in cryptocurrency many people have become victims but all victims have to give up all money to scammers. until now there is no way to get money stolen by scammers we can all just prevent it, so we don't become one of the victims of fraud

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April 29, 2019, 06:45:44 PM
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That is why we need to research more about the project or groups so we can prevent from getting scam.

Unfortunately, scammers are becoming better at doing their scams. It is becoming harder and harder to separate legit projects from scams. And since the boom of ICO in crypto world, scams projects are almost 90% of all the ICOs.
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Many fraudulent projects are trying to steal the last pieces from the ICO pie. According to people will invest is the deception industry is not going anywhere. Since in any case, the organizers of such projects get a good profit. To create your own cryptocurrency you do not need a lot of brains) To cheat you need a new token and a website) That's all the fraudulent project is ready. Do not invest in ICO!
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That is why we need to research more about the project or groups so we can prevent from getting scam.

Unfortunately, scammers are becoming better at doing their scams. It is becoming harder and harder to separate legit projects from scams. And since the boom of ICO in crypto world, scams projects are almost 90% of all the ICOs.

Yes, scammers are getting more creative. Many of them don't stint on the quality content of documents and presentable design of web sites. Since they already know that their costs will still pay off.
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Maybe the best way should be to involve the law to handle it so that investors feel safe to invest again and new investors will start arriving comfort and security must be put forward

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April 29, 2019, 08:21:33 PM
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Scammers are a threat that we must avoid because it is very detrimental to all of us, it is difficult to catch Scammers because distance and information are lacking and this problem is handled by the authorities because we have no power here. There is no efficient system to prevent scammers so there are still many.
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scammers are really a big problem in the crypto world. without all the scammers, the crypto world would certainly be more widespread, but currently many people are scared off by the scammers and that is bad.
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

Thats why ICO in this year is not too successful, because the past ICO is full of scammers.
IEO maybe the solution for investors who still afraid to invest their money in ICO.
But we need to use reliable exchange to join IEO, because it can be trusted.

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It is so sad that many people are trying to earn in a legal way and then this scammers just do fraudulent things and make scam thingy and just get some other people's money for free. I think there is no law for scammers online, yet they are continuing what they do to make easy money from what they scammed. But i hope they would come such time that scammers can get rid off and be banned forever here.
Well. I don’t see this stopping soon as long as we are running on a blockchain technology, you know that the main purpose of a blockchain technology already for peer to peer interaction, and how it is able to fully create an anonymous identity for its usage, but since we user has personally found a way through it ourselves to make money, we just have to deal with it, because that was not the original purpose of it development.

It is left to us to use every means that is within our power to put an end to this ICO scam, which the only way we can do so is just to continue to deeply make a research on the projects first, if we make a research and we are sure of the project, then we can assist our friends by introducing such certified project to them, which would also encourage them to do so after seeing the positive effect.
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April 30, 2019, 08:25:14 PM
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It is actually a waste of time running after scammers because you may never get to them, I feel it is better to avoid these projects that appear to be a scam than try to fish out scammers.
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April 30, 2019, 08:55:25 PM
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Well it is sad to say that scammers are really running freely, scammers has really a great effect on the crypto feild and there are really so many scammers that is really earn a lot by victimizing people inside the crypto feild. So i think we need to do more research on how to avoid scam for good.

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April 30, 2019, 09:26:27 PM
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I read an article that would say otherwise about investors feeling more bullish https://www.ccn.com/this-billionaire-investor-more-bullish-crypto-bitcoin

It would make sense that those that side with compliance hiring companies like ciphertrace to help wtih AML will give investors more confidence
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April 30, 2019, 09:29:09 PM
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It is a pity that there is no control over the scam.  And it is impossible to prevent their appearance and reproduction.  It remains only to try not to fall for them.
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Yes, you need to be very careful with scammers.  You need to come up with good passwords and does not tell anyone about them.  It is even advisable not to tell anyone in which wallet you keep your money.

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Yes, so far there have been no actions or institutions established to collect scammers, this digital world of people makes it easy to use weak people. I hope Scammers will be excluded if they won't survive against people who are fighting hard here.
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April 30, 2019, 10:44:05 PM
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Understand before investing in the ICO because ICO investment is still too dangerous for beginners. It is better for you to avoid ICO projects because scammers are smarter to fool beginner investors. No scammer has been caught so far.

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Yes, so far there have been no actions or institutions established to collect scammers, this digital world of people makes it easy to use weak people. I hope Scammers will be excluded if they won't survive against people who are fighting hard here.
there is a lot of hope for marketers to Scamer so that they no longer commit fraud and others, but maybe that is a difficult thing, because it becomes a risk to ourselves so we cannot do anything but be patient.
maybe if investigated and searched for, but most people let it be useless.

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April 30, 2019, 11:06:00 PM
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It is hard to get crypto currency spammers due to the country laws
In my country for example; crypto currency is neutral (not accepted, not rejected)

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I am not a fan of regulations but ICOs proved that  without regulation it is not a working model as so many investors lost their funds and confidence in investing.
That trust should be regained somehow for the sake of the future of crypto.

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I think there must be strict rules for every new ICO project so that scammers who do not comply with the existing rules can get away with their projects, maybe it's an effective way to reduce scammers who only seek profit in crypto.

very dangerous for the future of crypto itself because with the increasingly widespread ICO scam will make investors not trust crypto anymore and they will leave it, investors are very influential on the future of the cryptocurrency with their development of new coins in circulation will continue walking.

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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
Of course they are getting arrested if their identity is a known one, we have responsible judicial system that would not ignore that despite the fact they are yet to support cryptocurrency, but fraud is fraud, I have seen one or 2 cases of people that has been arrested and still in jail, but that was easy for government to do because o their identity that was deeply know.

The whole game plan is still in the hands of we investors, there is need for us to do more work in this regards by making sure that a project team is well known and can be identified with a project, any project that we cannot get a clear or direct interaction with the team and also confirm their identity, should not be taken into consideration for investment.

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On a serious note, with the decentralized model of blockchain technology and cryptocurrency I don't there's anything big we can do for all these scammers rather than for us to be careful not to fall into their deceit. I have seen many projects that raised millions of dollars that later turn to scam and yet most of these scammers are still working free.

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Most scammers are using the anonymity of crypto to scam a lot of crypto investors and these are some the many reasons why some people are of the view that crypto should be regulated.
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On a serious note, with the decentralized model of blockchain technology and cryptocurrency I don't there's anything big we can do for all these scammers rather than for us to be careful not to fall into their deceit. I have seen many projects that raised millions of dollars that later turn to scam and yet most of these scammers are still working free.
Investors has to be knowledgeable when it comes to investing, they have to ensure that they can go after the team in case they will be scam.
The new model of fund raising is effective because it's the site that is making back ground investigation to those who want to apply for the service and we can say they are more creditable that those that gives online review on a certain ICO.

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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
Of course they are getting arrested if their identity is a known one, we have responsible judicial system that would not ignore that despite the fact they are yet to support cryptocurrency, but fraud is fraud, I have seen one or 2 cases of people that has been arrested and still in jail, but that was easy for government to do because o their identity that was deeply know.

The whole game plan is still in the hands of we investors, there is need for us to do more work in this regards by making sure that a project team is well known and can be identified with a project, any project that we cannot get a clear or direct interaction with the team and also confirm their identity, should not be taken into consideration for investment.
Scammers are getting increasingly wise and they target everyone of all background and of all ages. They are getting smarter and taking advantage of new technology. It's is very important to be alert and protect ourselves from being scammed. Know who you're dealing with, keep your personal details secure, choose passwords that would be difficult for others to guess and update them regularly. They will create believable stories that will convince you, don't be too quick to decide. Embrace the reality that it exists and be wary that anytime you can be the next victim. Don't be trapped with their words and promises, brace yourself with necessary knowledge and skills in order to be protected, and secured.


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May 01, 2019, 08:58:46 AM
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Well it is sad to say that scammers are really running freely, scammers has really a great effect on the crypto feild and there are really so many scammers that is really earn a lot by victimizing people inside the crypto feild. So i think we need to do more research on how to avoid scam for good.
Research and study will helps a lot, to avoid being victimized understanding every fields of investment are very important, you have to make sure that you are working with projects who soon bring you a good benefits, without anything to expect, the project will just turned into a scam or it will just grab the opportunities to earn from investors and nothing to give in returned.
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

If investors never made legal actions about a scam ICO they should not expect anything from the government. However, this requirrs a alot of work, you will need to  have the real identity of the team behind a scam project since most scam project create fake team profile.

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That is a big issue we have to deal with. Imagine if people are not punished for doing wrong, what will even stop them from scamming people. However, if scammers are punished, it will scare others from also scamming others.

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To tell you frankly, the cryptocurrency's condition in our prestigious country is in really bad reputation. They used some ICOs as a networking business and that being said will no longer trusted by many individuals here. Instead, they are refusing to join any ICO businesses and crypto (preferably bitcoin ) are just being used by scammers which lead the status of bitcoin so down. And we can not blame anyone  to become skeptical in joining cryptocurrency.

I remembered those two persons ( married couple) who got arrested because of taking away the $19 million worth of bitcoin. Check it out for awareness.
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Today, a lot of information on how not to become a victim of a scam. In order to become an investor of a project, today you need to have knowledge of how to analyze the project itself. The organizers should be ready for any questions, and not hide anything about the project. If you have even the slightest suspicion of deception, then most likely you will be right.
Therefore, until everything is organized at the legislative level, it is worth relying only on your knowledge. Do not jump into the project without solid confidence, but carefully re-check everything.

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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
Everyone must do a little researched before she/he join in any project involving cryptocurrencies. Since the cryptocurrency is promoting decentralization and also include anonymity, it means  that everyone can used crypto-currencies for their purpose wethere its good or bad without revealing their true identities. thats why if anybody has not sure what they are doing in terms on investing in ICO's IEO,s STO think twice just invest only with those platform that comply regulation, invest in IEO on reputable exchange like, Binance,Bittrex,Kucoin and other trusted platforms are least chances of being scam in the end.

Note: Im not promoting anyone of those exchange that running and IEO's since i have nothing to do with them. im just using it as an example.
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Today, a lot of information on how not to become a victim of a scam. In order to become an investor of a project, today you need to have knowledge of how to analyze the project itself. The organizers should be ready for any questions, and not hide anything about the project. If you have even the slightest suspicion of deception, then most likely you will be right.
Therefore, until everything is organized at the legislative level, it is worth relying only on your knowledge. Do not jump into the project without solid confidence, but carefully re-check everything.

Yes, I think the first line of defense of us not being scammed is to become more  aware and vigilant on those projects that shows signs of irregularity and we should try to inform and warn other people in the community. But then again, there should be a way to apply the full force of the law and bring the perpetrators to justice so that it will not be replicated with others who have malicious mindsets.
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
My question is why would you be careless to the extent of giving your money to scammers .since you already know that the crypto community is filled with scammers that are looking for money to make away with, it is left for you to do your best in avoiding them as much as possible. Cause if you keep on waiting for when they will start getting them arrested ,you will just be wasting your time for nothing. As for your friends, well this is not meant for everyone ,if they think they can do it then they should find something else to do.
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May 01, 2019, 11:19:25 AM
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I agree and also wondering how are the scammers news now? Have these ico scammers been arrested? This is an important point to recover the ico investors and public trust. As long as these scammers freely wandering out there, public who had no experiences but interested to crypto will doubt to take part in the crypto world.
If this point can be overcome, I am sure it will give a positive impact to global adoption.
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That is why many thinks centralization and regulation will bring much sanity into the system. Many people have lost thousands to millions of dollars for good with their bad deed been investing in a project or ICO.
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That is why many thinks centralization and regulation will bring much sanity into the system. Many people have lost thousands to millions of dollars for good with their bad deed been investing in a project or ICO.

And what about the investment market of securities is not who has not lost money. And investment in real estate. And other areas of investment. Yes, any business built on credit is an investment. So now this difficult dangerous game is complaining.
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
It is just very difficult to arrest those who conducts this projects because they are very careful to make sure they don't release their real identity to their investors do that they can make a way with their money and not get tracked by any government agency, so I believe this is why IEO was launched to solve this problem of scam in crowdfunding on the Crypto space, but I think sec has been doing a good job lately getting those people That have participated in scam activities one way or the other in the Crypto space.

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May 01, 2019, 05:45:23 PM
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As in any unregulated industry, the sphere of cryptocurrency and blockchain was flooded with rogues, fraudsters and various scammers. Because of them, probably 10% of all ICO projects are real, the rest are solid fakes. I think the crypto community is faced with a difficult choice - either decentralization and a huge amount of scam, or regulation of the cryptosphere and admission of law enforcement structures to it to protect against fraudsters.

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May 01, 2019, 09:36:46 PM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

I am sure that there are not so many scammers in the crypto market. It’s just that the same people are doing several ISO fraudsters and they continue to do this all the time.
To avoid this, it is necessary to force developers to disclose their personal KYC information.
Only in this way can we defeat the fraudsters and bring them to justice for the deception of investors.

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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
For that to happen we most definitely be regulate.  Governments will have interest in putting any scammers behind bar if there is a law to prosecute scammers.  I think we should be able to make governments accept bitcoin and regulate it if not the scamming activities will really continue.
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I think it is high time this issue of rampant scam project be given serious attention by installing high regulations such that there wil be a system of moderating the activities of proposed ICO and those who are the member of the team must disclose their personal details and sign an undertaken on the rightful course of action in the event of the unexpected this is to project the interest of prospective contributors of the project.
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True, A lot of scam project now, Since nobody put them on jail. That's the disadvantage of cryptocurrency because every scammer can get away so easily.

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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto



Well" We need to accept the reality because herein crypto everyone is anonymous hard to identify or distinguish the real identity of the scammer, to avoid get victim of scammer just always becareful investigate well the project before investing.
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True, A lot of scam project now, Since nobody put them on jail. That's the disadvantage of cryptocurrency because every scammer can get away so easily.

In that sense, I guess we need to have some kind of regulation and a de facto governing body that could go after those fraudsters and apply to them judicial measures to discouraged would be scammers but I think its near to impossible now since there is little cooperation among the crypto community and almost everybody acts only for himself. Imho. Smiley
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True, A lot of scam project now, Since nobody put them on jail. That's the disadvantage of cryptocurrency because every scammer can get away so easily.

In that sense, I guess we need to have some kind of regulation and a de facto governing body that could go after those fraudsters and apply to them judicial measures to discouraged would be scammers but I think its near to impossible now since there is little cooperation among the crypto community and almost everybody acts only for himself. Imho. Smiley
This is long overdue, I'm sure they see how risky the market has become, lots of scammers are still making money here and newbies loses confidence investing in crypto. This ICO is one of the main source of scams, some can easily fake the team and if they raise money they can disappear easily.
Good thing now we have IEO as so far I've seen more positive feedback.

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There are some simple ways to avoid scammers. First, new investors can stick to altcoins with use cases and a proven track record. Second, they should only use reputable exchanges. Third, they should practice good security, by using 2FA, avoiding phishing attempts, regularly updating their antivirus software, and using a hardware wallet if possible.
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

Thats why ICO in this year is not too successful, because the past ICO is full of scammers.
IEO maybe the solution for investors who still afraid to invest their money in ICO.
But we need to use reliable exchange to join IEO, because it can be trusted.
Do you know that despite all these cry here and there of scammers doing this and doing that, we still have some people that are making money from ICO aside IEO. There are still lots of credible projects there with very great concept and new ideas when you read their whitepaper, those who have successfully participated in great ICO amidst the bad one has taken extra step in making more findings outside the ICO.

There was an ICO I was interested in recently, after reading their whitepaper and seeing their linked in page, I sent them a mail asking for their involvement and also to meet them directly via any video call, because I made them understand I would be investing hugely, they refused to grant me audience, and this automatically implies that they are not real, while I have some that gave me the audience.

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May 02, 2019, 06:38:02 AM
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Scammer are really still running free, and there are so many people still being victimized by this scammer, but i think it is always depend on us, if the projects scammed we need to stay away from that project for good. I believe that scammers are running free but ee can avoid being scam by improving our self through research to know more about legal ang scam project.
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In recent years, scamm has become very much. Investors are the first to suffer, and then bounty hunters. But it seems to me that while the blockchain system has no control, there will be no punishment. Just a few more years fraudsters will live with impunity
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That is a big issue we have to deal with. Imagine if people are not punished for doing wrong, what will even stop them from scamming people. However, if scammers are punished, it will scare others from also scamming others.
How can they be punished when they are not known, the legal system will never permit such act if the identity of the perpetrators where known, but as it stands, they have already taken advantage of the good will of blockchain to create anonymity for themselves which will be very difficult to trace any transaction to them.

The only control method would be for us to just take extra precaution to avoid these bad projects; we should not rush into investing in every project that we come across. When we see a project, the best would be to first study what they have on table and the most important part is to strictly follow up on the team members.
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I agree scammers should be hunted down and punished. Maybe it will happen. Unless they manage to cash out in privacy coins, everything will remain there forever in the blockchain for anyone to piece evidence together and follow the funds.

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May 02, 2019, 02:35:46 PM
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I think the big enemy of Crypto is scammers. All trust will be lost if it has been hit by scammers. I think Scammers must be destroyed immediately, at least we should be able to know, if we already know, I suggest giving information on social media or here so friends know.

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Well you should better to invest in crypto not in the ICO's, many scam projects these days so keep off if you feel not safe to invest, just invest in trusted crypto like the top 100 in coinmarketcap.
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May 02, 2019, 08:45:20 PM
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Along with the advancement of technology and the development of cryptocurrency itself, there will always be people who commit crimes or fraud that have recently often occurred in the crypto world.
In my opinion, this is indeed requires policies and regulations about cryptocurrency so that there is no fraud or illegal acts from the scammers.
And of course we ourselves must avoid our involvement from scam so as not to harm others.

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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

You just have to stop investing in all the projects in a row and start looking for quality projects for a long and hard time, and then you can stop falling into fraudulent projects.
If you are unable to find a good project at all and you are constantly losing your money, then maybe you had better stop investing at all.

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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
Salient points made but I will like to chip in that ICOs are not the only aspects of crypto... We have a thousand and one cryptocurrencies in the market and some have shown to have great potentials already.. Using ICOs as excuse not to join crypto is an ignorant decision which i believe many might regret making in the nearest future..

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This case continues because it is very difficult to catch hackers, we hunters cannot do much because of the lack of information and strength here. I think as soon as possible there is a hacker exterminator body because it is very detrimental to everyone if there is no action they will never stop.
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

Arresting crypto scammers will not stop the activity of investors investing into scam projects and getting their money robbed from them. The only solution to this problem, is by educating all crypto investors on spending some quality amount of time to research on  any project they come across in the crypto ecosystem  before deciding to either invest or recommend to any body for them to invest in.  This will limit the amount of scam projects available in the crypto space....
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One of my concerns is that can crypto be outrightly scam free? The reason for this is that, we might not see regulation any time soon. The government is also waiting for more adoptions first before regulating. The problem now is, investors might not want to adopt considering the rate of scam.
The risk in cryptocurrency is high as a result of this.
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Scamers have been since and not in crypto only so the are everywhere and in organizations, the only way we can help ourselves is by being careful. Scamers are never ready to give up on this as far as they still make some money from it and there are no rules in crypto which makes everything worse,
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I would say that knowledge will dispel any fears.
You can start by applying it to your own ideas about crypto.

Have you ever thought about doing some research on how many actual real scams there have been with ICOs?
Someone complaining on bitcointalk doesnt count.
But the rate of ICOs that actually do run away and steal peole's money.

Then, compare that to ICos that don't, and you will find tat the percentage of getting scammed is very low.
Saying, "Let's arrest these scammers!" is unrealistic and does nothing.

Regulations and law enforcement are different in each country.
In America, in order to "Arrest the scammers" you would have to vote for a legislator that has that on their platform.
Then you would put pressure on local district attorneys to enforce those laws.
None of that gets done by just saying we should do it on bitcointalk.

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Scamers have been since and not in crypto only so the are everywhere and in organizations, the only way we can help ourselves is by being careful. Scamers are never ready to give up on this as far as they still make some money from it and there are no rules in crypto which makes everything worse,

Scammers always want to try take advantages in many fields and in cryptocurrency market, we should make research first before investing. Scammers in crypto hard to trace because most wallet are anonymous. I think this is the reason why ICOs should be regulated by government
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Scamers have been since and not in crypto only so the are everywhere and in organizations, the only way we can help ourselves is by being careful. Scamers are never ready to give up on this as far as they still make some money from it and there are no rules in crypto which makes everything worse,
indeed there are many scammers who try to cheat new users or traders who are easily affected by the profits generated, therefore you should not be easily affected by what is on some internet media because there are so many scammers scattered.
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ICO scammers are hard to catch, how to catch them, I am confused, and worse how to recover investor funds that have been brought by scammers, I think it is very difficult and scammers damage the image of cryptocurrency and this must be immediately removed immediately.

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May 03, 2019, 06:23:36 AM
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That is why many thinks centralization and regulation will bring much sanity into the system. Many people have lost thousands to millions of dollars for good with their bad deed been investing in a project or ICO.

And what about the investment market of securities is not who has not lost money. And investment in real estate. And other areas of investment. Yes, any business built on credit is an investment. So now this difficult dangerous game is complaining.
I think there are scammers all around and this thing could not be eliminated in the presence of internet. Scammers are actually the guys with lots of expertise so they can easily deceive a man having no knowledge about something he wants to invest in.

This is what happened with so many ICOs in which people put in their money due to the hype these scammers would create on internet and hence lost their money.

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i believe scamming activities has reduced now in cryptocurrency because people are now wiser and things have changed so it will be difficult to perform any type of scamming. SEC will hunt them down.
You have zero idea about scam project, I guess because scammers around has been increased from previous and it will continue, they will always find new tricks however, the recent step by some of the forum member has helped to reduce the scammer in ICO, they always bamboozle the scammers with publishing there fake team or fake project

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May 04, 2019, 03:02:42 PM
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Its just like the real world, most scammers don't get caught.  This isn't a problem exclusive to crypto.  There is only so much the authorities can do and they have limited resources.  If you are concerned about thieves running free, think about all the murderers roaming the streets.
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because nothing law on crypto that can make the scammer go to jail unless you reporting by local or international police, but that gonna be hard for sure
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

Scammer here in crypto have the guts to scam people here through ICO projects. Because there is no regulations in it.
They always taking advantaging with it in crypto currency. This is the truth happening here in this business industry.
That's why We always need to be careful in investing ico or participating in any project campaign.
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

Scammer here in crypto have the guts to scam people here through ICO projects. Because there is no regulations in it.
They always taking advantaging with it in crypto currency. This is the truth happening here in this business industry.
That's why We always need to be careful in investing ico or participating in any project campaign.

Aside from without regulations, basically everyone can create their own project and hold ICO anonymously. Because there are so many naive users that blindly trust these people, these scammers find it so easy and made this as their playing ground of stealing money. They can disappear into thin air very easily. And yes, this is the major reason why ICOs are dying. I wonder how IEOs will end up to?
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because nothing law on crypto that can make the scammer go to jail unless you reporting by local or international police, but that gonna be hard for sure
This is difficult to prevent, so now dev and team make different ways to raise project funds to avoid scammers, because scammers can happen to people closest to even people you fully trust.
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You must realize that Crypto has risks. So before you do something, of course, you have to consider it because you have to be prepared to face the risks that will occur. Scammers are very difficult to catch and I just hope that there will be strict regulations so that they can limit them and even eliminate fraudsters.

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You must realize that Crypto has risks. So before you do something, of course, you have to consider it because you have to be prepared to face the risks that will occur. Scammers are very difficult to catch and I just hope that there will be strict regulations so that they can limit them and even eliminate fraudsters.
If we consider the principle of implementing new projects using IEO, then in my opinion this is the best choice, since there are certain guarantees for investors.  In any case, the exchange makes a choice among all the projects that may be promising and not fraudulent.
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You must realize that Crypto has risks. So before you do something, of course, you have to consider it because you have to be prepared to face the risks that will occur. Scammers are very difficult to catch and I just hope that there will be strict regulations so that they can limit them and even eliminate fraudsters.
If we consider the principle of implementing new projects using IEO, then in my opinion this is the best choice, since there are certain guarantees for investors.  In any case, the exchange makes a choice among all the projects that may be promising and not fraudulent.
The fact is that many developers may not fulfill certain conditions that are mandatory for promoting IEO on exchanges.  How then do?  80 percent of all new projects will still have to go according to the ico plan.
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It's sad to see how much has the industry of altcoins changed since scammers start sticking their nose into ICOs. Unfortunately right now I don't know if there is anything we can do since most of the projects are closed and deleted, while the owners are long gone with investors funds. If someone would have took action faster maybe we could've catch some of them and recover some money but now it seems to late for that.
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It's sad to see how much has the industry of altcoins changed since scammers start sticking their nose into ICOs. Unfortunately right now I don't know if there is anything we can do since most of the projects are closed and deleted, while the owners are long gone with investors funds. If someone would have took action faster maybe we could've catch some of them and recover some money but now it seems to late for that.
Yes, it is really sad if ICO or Altcoin projects become a scam after collecting funds from Investors, I really hope that in the Crypto world this will make strict regulations and provide penalties for scammers. I hope that now.

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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

They are still free because it is hard to trace the movements of cryptocurrency.
There are several coins that you can use it privately, without anyone knowing your address, and those are misused by scammers.
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This is one proof that we need regularization and legalization right now because without it scammer are free to do something illegal without any disciplinary action by law. If regularization and legalization will implemented scammer will going to afraid because government will have rights to make a law to punish scammers.

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This is one proof that we need regularization and legalization right now because without it scammer are free to do something illegal without any disciplinary action by law. If regularization and legalization will implemented scammer will going to afraid because government will have rights to make a law to punish scammers.
The question is if people will still not fight it being regulated, fine it can be legalized, but I am sure people will still have issue with its regulation, because majority of them feel that once it is being regulated by the government, they will still be able to monitor their transactions.

For me, I don’t have any issue with government monitoring my transactions because I have nothing to hide, the speed cryptocurrency payments has brought solution to slow and third party involvement is more than enough for me to continue with the system for the rest of my life. So if regulating it is what it will take for these crypto scammers to be wiped off, then I am in full support of it.
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We know already that cryptocurrencies are not regulated right now so it is true that the scammers are running free but there are some scams whose team has been arrested like the Centra Scam.

I think the best way to prevent being scammed is just don't invest on the ICO's. I always say that most of the ICO's are scam and many of us know it already.

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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
This is really sad, scammers can do what they want because they are not being arrested because we also don't know their real identity because some ICO's didn't introduce themselves maybe because their way to run for their responsibilities. I don't know why there are still a lot of people doing this. I don't want my family to eat their food from a bad activity like this.
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The OP is not entirely correct since there have been scammers who were arrested in some countries(afaik). More often than not, however, most of them run scot-free. Theses ICO scams have led some governments to consider its regulation and worse; implementing its total ban. Once regulated, well, kinda totally beats the purpose of having the blockchain tech which allowed full anonymity among users, eh? Ultimately,  scammed investors are left to decide if they will discontinue or simply shrug it off. Best tip yet, do thorough research first and look for red flags before investing your money in any ICO.
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We know already that cryptocurrencies are not regulated right now so it is true that the scammers are running free but there are some scams whose team has been arrested like the Centra Scam.

I think the best way to prevent being scammed is just don't invest on the ICO's. I always say that most of the ICO's are scam and many of us know it already.
It is a terrible situation and indeed a pitiful situation to see scammers and hackers doing what they love to do. Binance got hacked. ICO got defamed due to scams. The system is really vulnerable and prone to attacks and an exchange like Binance could get hacked, there should be no doubt that Bittrex could also be targeted. It is important to look into every project before investing in the project and take care of your security keys.

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May 09, 2019, 09:23:16 AM
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Invest IEO if you are disappointed in ICO. This will save you from fraudsters who just runs away with funds after ICO. Crypto always develops and other alternatives appear.

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Because there are so many scammers and running free projects. therefore investors cannot recognize it. This makes the IEO projects and will replace ICO projects. All scammers will be eliminated and the crypto market will become fresh.
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It is a sad thing and hurts to the bone when you've worked tirelessly for a bounty campaign only for them to disappear when it's time to receive your reward. I think we need an effective way to to screen out these Scammers so that we can have peace mind.

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It is a sad thing and hurts to the bone when you've worked tirelessly for a bounty campaign only for them to disappear when it's time to receive your reward. I think we need an effective way to to screen out these Scammers so that we can have peace mind.
IEO is an interesting way to screen out such scammers. if you see that the project has a partnership with some kind of high-quality exchange, then I think you can be sure of your reward. but it is not 100%  Grin
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May 09, 2019, 09:43:16 AM
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Invest IEO if you are disappointed in ICO. This will save you from fraudsters who just runs away with funds after ICO. Crypto always develops and other alternatives appear.


yup you are right, there is a way when the problem comes. Ico is now extinct, now it will be replaced with the IEO. many people are very enthusiastic about the IEO because it's so easy to make a profit
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May 09, 2019, 09:57:02 AM
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this is one of the major reason why many people want regulation to enforced so that investors will stop losing money to scammers. this is one of the reasons why SEC has come out to try and regulate crypto activities and we have seen the effect of this on the market and also some project owners and left the project and ran away while some have been apprehended, others will soon be caught. this things have changed because of the fear of SEC.
It should be the work of each regulation in various countries to lay down regulation this way scammers can be tamed SEC can't do it alone.
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this is one of the major reason why many people want regulation to enforced so that investors will stop losing money to scammers. this is one of the reasons why SEC has come out to try and regulate crypto activities and we have seen the effect of this on the market and also some project owners and left the project and ran away while some have been apprehended, others will soon be caught. this things have changed because of the fear of SEC.
It should be the work of each regulation in various countries to lay down regulation this way scammers can be tamed SEC can't do it alone.
But due to progressive taxation and many other factors, they in the same time fear regulations. BTW the crypto space is highly regulated in the US and government makes sure it is not misused. Had there been regulations, there would have been very rare scam activities but that is not what has been happening since long. We got Binance hacked last day. But that was purely a failure of the exchange security and has nothing to do with cryptocurrency.

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You just need to be more careful from the beginning. Crypto currencies are still standing for anonymity and there is no way to find out who the scammer was, so be advised and check every single aspect of a project before putting your money into it.
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You just need to be more careful from the beginning. Crypto currencies are still standing for anonymity and there is no way to find out who the scammer was, so be advised and check every single aspect of a project before putting your money into it.
yes, because anonymity is already a risk of cryptocurrency, it makes sense that fraud often occurs. The fraud and failure of a project in my opinion depends on our luck. most people must have checked it and thought it was good, but still they could be fooled.

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May 10, 2019, 08:34:05 AM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto


Yeah theres a lot of scammers roaming around. Thats the worst part of being anonymity this case is not new at all. But if we cant make them pay for what they did, maybe we can prevent the scammers. I think you need to research and you need a tons of it. Plus dont give em money unless they reveal themselves and you dont have any proof that they were real.
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

Maybe the best thing to do to eliminate scammers is to be aware of ourselves of what we are getting into or participating with, the more people aware of this, the more scammers wont do to scam anymore because of people awareness, maybe thats the best thing we can do, to educate ourselves.

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I totally agree with you. The way scammers get away free these days is alerming and no one seems to care. 90% of ICOs are scam, no new investor hearing this will like to come in. Something should be done.

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Now there are a lot of scam projects on the market, i personally chose one project for myself, which i constantly follow and participate in the bounty of the company http://gexan.io/ this is their website, where there is all the information
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May 10, 2019, 07:20:28 PM
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Not only ICO even real time banks also scamming the users for that we are moving out of using bank means that is no sense. We need to take pinch of salt in the sea likewise we need to pick the right ICO while we are planning to invest.

To stay away from scam ICO you just follow the scam accusation board frequently on daily basis. Then I am sure you will not be trapped with any scam ICO projects.

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Now there are a lot of scam projects on the market, i personally chose one project for myself, which i constantly follow and participate in the bounty of the company http://gexan.io/ this is their website, where there is all the information
And what, the project is a real worker and you can earn money for yourself?
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Now there are a lot of scam projects on the market, i personally chose one project for myself, which i constantly follow and participate in the bounty of the company http://gexan.io/ this is their website, where there is all the information
And what, the project is a real worker and you can earn money for yourself?
They promise for a token of 0.7 dollars and of course access to the stock exchange, where we can sell all the tokens, why not try to earn there
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May 10, 2019, 07:28:53 PM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

Just ask others to invest in project which is legit and worthy of investing. Investing without a proper research is what had given them a honeypot to steal. Spotting scammers and catching wouldn't solve a problem IMO.

Just give them no way or chance of stealing your funds and that will help to decrease the no. of scam projects we have right now since they will lose interest at some point of time.
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The only way for them is to die because we don't have any choice they are very harmful to the crypto since last few years ago and until now. That's one od the reason why people are scared to enter to the crypto because they have a lot of scammer that saw in the news and even my friends that I want to invite at the cryptocurrency their mindset is their money will be scammed beacuse their think bitcoin is using to scam people.

I know that these fraudulent individuals have deeply hurt a lot of us but suggesting death makes us less human. The best penalty for such criminal act will be imprisonment from 15 to 21 years imprisonment including confiscation of assets

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The only way for them is to die because we don't have any choice they are very harmful to the crypto since last few years ago and until now. That's one od the reason why people are scared to enter to the crypto because they have a lot of scammer that saw in the news and even my friends that I want to invite at the cryptocurrency their mindset is their money will be scammed beacuse their think bitcoin is using to scam people.

I know that these fraudulent individuals have deeply hurt a lot of us but suggesting death makes us less human. The best penalty for such criminal act will be imprisonment from 15 to 21 years imprisonment including confiscation of assets
Maybe first that we can do is care with others. I mean, this is a forum. If we not really agree or maybe think if a project is not good for people, i think we free to discuss it in their thread. And people who really care with their investment, must take research from it and then can decide want to invest or not.

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You just need to be more careful from the beginning. Crypto currencies are still standing for anonymity and there is no way to find out who the scammer was, so be advised and check every single aspect of a project before putting your money into it.
The best advantage and the worst disadvantage of crypto transactions is anonymity which makes it near to impossible for finding the real identity behind these fraudulent activities. Before investing in the project checking the whitepaper, asking questions from team members are old tested ways to detect scam but it doesn't work anymore.

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May 10, 2019, 08:15:32 PM
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Even on this forum you can find scammers as well as trustworthy users. Kindly take time analyze every person as well every ICO before investing or participating bounties.
Here are some information you need to do must check for every ICO.

Read the Whitepaper
Analyze the team images using search on google(Whether it is taken from shutterstock, picasa or some random images)
Core idea of the project
Track contract address and confirm whether the transactions are real or not
Check for plagiarism on whitepaper or techpaper. Then it is suspious and it may done by the random whitepaper maker
Get connected to their most active community channel like Telegram or Discord. (See their updates and monitor for somedays)


I believe these things are enough to confirm whether the ICO is scam or hasslefree.

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May 10, 2019, 09:08:54 PM
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Why OP have to force someone if they don't want to join? Just accept the fact that there are people who will still keep doing bad things just to take advantage of other people. If your friend/s wants to join he may have to find a way to get in and not to give you some stupid excuses. Don't you think people are not making way to let those scammers go behind bars?

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May 10, 2019, 09:16:40 PM
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Scammers have been arrested on some occasions, such as the team of cyclean, but so many of them are at large and might not be caught.
Even if some of them are caught, it is not enough to bring full trust into the system, except the whole system is purged and regulated.
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May 10, 2019, 10:13:46 PM
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Scammers have been arrested on some occasions, such as the team of cyclean, but so many of them are at large and might not be caught.
Even if some of them are caught, it is not enough to bring full trust into the system, except the whole system is purged and regulated.
even if the justice system catches scammers, it is usually very difficult to return funds to users, and in my opinion, it is not possible at all.

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May 10, 2019, 10:28:01 PM
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There is no regulation and that's why some scammers get away with it. More scammers also invade the crypto world cause they know they will always get away with it. Advice your friend to invest in already established projects and not upcoming ICOs, to avoid same thing happening again.
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This is one proof that we need regularization and legalization right now because without it scammer are free to do something illegal without any disciplinary action by law. If regularization and legalization will implemented scammer will going to afraid because government will have rights to make a law to punish scammers.
The question is if people will still not fight it being regulated, fine it can be legalized, but I am sure people will still have issue with its regulation, because majority of them feel that once it is being regulated by the government, they will still be able to monitor their transactions.

For me, I don’t have any issue with government monitoring my transactions because I have nothing to hide, the speed cryptocurrency payments has brought solution to slow and third party involvement is more than enough for me to continue with the system for the rest of my life. So if regulating it is what it will take for these crypto scammers to be wiped off, then I am in full support of it.

I think it is the wrong mentality that people foster when they say that "since I have nothing to hide, I can share my data" that is such a bullshit! It should be YOUR CHOICE if you want to show something or not.
Wanting your privacy is not the same as being secretive. I get really mad when I see people saying bullshit. Excuse me if my words sting.
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Scammers are everywhere in cryptocurrency they are freely doing such as scam so be aware of projects thaf you are promoting and investing make sure you join a good project like heluss.io this project is good and having a product for everyone .

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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
Lolzzz, like what do you expect people to do about it? There's nothing you can do about it except if you know who it is and where they are living, then you can decide to go after them since you have their identity and you can easily trace. But seems you don't know who it is and you don't know where that money went to, then there is no way you can really tell who or where to find. The is the problem people are having with cryptocurrency and it is one the reasons why we should be careful of who we are dealing with.

Once you have sent your coin to them and it happens to be a scammer, then just forget about it, cause your money is gone for good. Crypto is like PayPal where your payment can be reversed. Some people make use of escrow, but I don't trust those escrow services, they can as well turn out to be scammer, no one should be trusted.
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May 11, 2019, 11:57:11 AM
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Scammers are everywhere in cryptocurrency they are freely doing such as scam so be aware of projects thaf you are promoting and investing make sure you join a good project like heluss.io this project is good and having a product for everyone .
a lot of fraud so we have to be careful when choosing before running.
good projects may not function properly if there are obstacles.
we must be very careful if we will look for projects, so that we can benefit from it.
a good team will influence the project so we have to research and find out more about it so we can walk easily and become successful.

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May 11, 2019, 11:59:57 AM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

I disagree here. We're seeing scammers face justice.

Check out this guy who stole millions in crypto and now has to pay 3x more: https://crypto.bi/z/threads/justice-served-guy-hijacks-phone-steals-u-23-million-in-crypto-has-to-pay-u-76-million-in-damages.941/

Some infamous cases were indeed under-penalized, but I think we don't need major state regulation to get scammers to justice. Using existing laws is enough to protect crypto investors from scammers.

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May 11, 2019, 12:01:52 PM
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It seems to me that fraudsters will always exist as long as there is internet.  Yes, now create a strong protection system.  But they get around with time and still steal.  This is all a matter of time.  From this nowhere is it.
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Scammers are everywhere in cryptocurrency they are freely doing such as scam so be aware of projects thaf you are promoting and investing make sure you join a good project like heluss.io this project is good and having a product for everyone .
Crypto continues to exist and it's having a good progress, with a good progress, people are expected to be matured and will not fall for any investment scams, or whatever platform that is scam. One good example of changes that is positive is people now investing in IEO from ICO, because ICO is full of scams.

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May 11, 2019, 12:41:06 PM
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I think this is the reason why there are few people investing crypto because of the scammers. They are running freely, and they get not caught. I think because there is no enough program to captivate them. As an investors we should be careful.

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May 11, 2019, 01:03:51 PM
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It seems to me that fraudsters will always exist as long as there is internet.  Yes, now create a strong protection system.  But they get around with time and still steal.  This is all a matter of time.  From this nowhere is it.
yep! indeed they will always be there.
but i think at the moment almost all crypto users are smarter and more careful in protecting their valuable assets. and it seems like the scammers will have no chance to benefit from user errors.

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I believe that the scammers will still be going Scott free as far as there is no rules and regulations biding ICO. And with this I believe no one will ready to invest in ICO again, with time ICO will become past.

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I believe that the scammers will still be going Scott free as far as there is no rules and regulations biding ICO. And with this I believe no one will ready to invest in ICO again, with time ICO will become past.

The way out of this situation will be to confirm the quality of the projects. All that will need to release a prototype product. What will give investors the opportunity to invest in further development. You can transfer ready-made platforms to Blochchine such as FB.

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May 11, 2019, 01:53:38 PM
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I believe that the scammers will still be going Scott free as far as there is no rules and regulations biding ICO. And with this I believe no one will ready to invest in ICO again, with time ICO will become past.

I think this is like with internet projects. Every year there will only be more of them, so don’t think that this way of investing will simply leave this market. Even though poston deception.

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May 11, 2019, 01:59:17 PM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto


scammers are one of the biggest obstacles to crypto growth, and this year more ico are scams. this is sad
I think regulation must exist and be supported by the state that legalizes it.
well, be careful if you want to invest in ico, because there are many ways scammers can manipulate to attract investors.
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May 11, 2019, 04:25:44 PM
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For more secure and safety for crypto world we need regulation. Scammer are  go run way if they see they leave enough document that government can trace him and make justice.

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Strict regulations must be made immediately to protect investors. As investors, of course, they want to profit and not lose money because of fraud. As long as this Crypto still does not have very good security, it is better to remain careful in determining the project. But I won't get out of Crypto because I'm sure if we are smarter and more careful we can make a profit.

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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

Yes, this is why we need regulatory measures in the crypto world because the industry is full of scammers and they just run away with ICO funds. I think once these regulations are put in place, ICO investors will be in safe hands.

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Financial fraud existed and will exist. Only the principles change, but the essence always remains, and it does not matter whether it is crypto or fiat. And doubts about investing are largely justified, the risk of loss increases in proportion to profits.
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
Once again, the problem in the regulation of crypto currencies. And this, as you know, is an ambiguous problem. On the one hand, regulation will help control fraudulent actions, but on the other hand, all actions of ordinary people will also be under control, which in itself already violates the idea of cryptocurrency (namely Bitcoin). Therein lies the problem - to find a balance between all these nuances.
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There will be always risk since the whole cryptocurrencies are financial things. Your friends can just buy bitcoin, instead of joining ICO
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I am a citizen of Belarus, and our president would not tolerate the development of such fraudulent schemes, which have long been unpunished. I think that he would quickly find a way to prevent it and punish it to the fullest extent of the law!)
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There will be always risk since the whole cryptocurrencies are financial things. Your friends can just buy bitcoin, instead of joining ICO
but there is a possibility that people who are now joining the ICO will earn much more money than if they simply buy Bitcoin. that's why diversification exists
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I think this is the reason why there are few people investing crypto because of the scammers. They are running freely, and they get not caught. I think because there is no enough program to captivate them. As an investors we should be careful.
yes but it is really upsetting to admit that still there are some scammers who are running freely, scammers are making bad image of crypto in eyes of new investors but I think it is not good to think bad about the market only because of some people who actually wants to spoil the market environment, we should only be careful and don’t trust anyone, use blockchain as wallet to keep your investment safe.
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I think this is the reason why there are few people investing crypto because of the scammers. They are running freely, and they get not caught. I think because there is no enough program to captivate them. As an investors we should be careful.
yes but it is really upsetting to admit that still there are some scammers who are running freely, scammers are making bad image of crypto in eyes of new investors but I think it is not good to think bad about the market only because of some people who actually wants to spoil the market environment, we should only be careful and don’t trust anyone, use blockchain as wallet to keep your investment safe.
That's right, we never think it in general and appreciate the market instead,  even though some of us are destroying our market reputation.
It surely they won't get free for long and someday they'll be caught and even pay for their doings.
It serves as a mirror to all of us and keeping a good image of crypto will be our priority rather than scam others.



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May 11, 2019, 11:16:16 PM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

This was the main problem why the image of the ICO became bad in the sight of many community here in the forum.
And why IEO became better than ICO according to what I had observed about it. That's why even I'm not in favor of regulations
on crypto, despite our coins will get steal by the scammer, I think it will be fine for me to implement that things.
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May 12, 2019, 03:06:24 AM
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The development of security on Cryptocurrency began to appear. I remain optimistic that the previous experience of negative cases with the ICO will provide new ideas and rapid developments towards the elimination of scammers.
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May 12, 2019, 03:13:37 AM
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I think this is the reason why there are few people investing crypto because of the scammers. They are running freely, and they get not caught. I think because there is no enough program to captivate them. As an investors we should be careful.
Agree, in any business there must be scammers who take advantage of themselves.
The important thing is to remain careful and never visit any phising website or installing any third party software that doesn't have license.
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May 12, 2019, 04:36:20 AM
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That is why many thinks centralization and regulation will bring much sanity into the system. Many people have lost thousands to millions of dollars for good with their bad deed been investing in a project or ICO.

And what about the investment market of securities is not who has not lost money. And investment in real estate. And other areas of investment. Yes, any business built on credit is an investment. So now this difficult dangerous game is complaining.
I think there are scammers all around and this thing could not be eliminated in the presence of internet. Scammers are actually the guys with lots of expertise so they can easily deceive a man having no knowledge about something he wants to invest in.

This is what happened with so many ICOs in which people put in their money due to the hype these scammers would create on internet and hence lost their money.


If government regulate ICOs, i am believe scam ICOs can be eliminated. People would scam others because they know that law can not touch them as long there is no regulation about ICOs.
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
That is why scammers are a major problem in the development of ICO/IEO, unlike in early 2017 where such incidents are rarely found and developments in that year are very good. Increasingly here more and more are easy making tokens of use scaming on behalf of the ICO project, as you say it is difficult to reclaim investment and imprison these fraudsters because the cryptocurrency does not yet have strong evidence to do so, even though the transaction or digital footprint will always there but without identity information it will be difficult to do it.

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It feels very much sad when we see scammers walking free without any worry of being arrested or a shame. We can see that in many incidents, scammers are freely operating their business of fraud to cheat and loot potential investors and bounty hunters. For example, many victims are complaining that BiteBTC is a scam and has scammed many traders and investors out of millions of rupees. But it is openly operating and looting traders. Most interestingly it has not been arrested despite several complains. 
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Cryptocurrency fraud has developed into one of the biggest dangers in terms of crypto trading in recent years.  but they are hard to catch. ICO promoters perpetuate the biggest fraud ever, maybe 85% of people out there don't have bad intentions, but the problem is if 5-10% try to cheat, then this is a disaster.

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May 12, 2019, 05:28:36 PM
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Indeed, many people decide not to risk putting their money in the hands of scammers, so they stop participating in investing in new projects.
I also do not take the risk of participating in the ICO, I tried to take part in the IEO and also suffered losses. Therefore, I decided not to invest in young projects at all.
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May 12, 2019, 07:36:38 PM
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There will be always risk since the whole cryptocurrencies are financial things. Your friends can just buy bitcoin, instead of joining ICO
but there is a possibility that people who are now joining the ICO will earn much more money than if they simply buy Bitcoin. that's why diversification exists
So, if you want to earn much more money you will have to take risk  Wink
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ICO projects have had a bad reputation on this issue and this problem has become big in this industry, if we no longer believe in investing in ICO then finalizing the choice to only invest in bitcoin and other coins with high trust is the solution. Even though we need more time but at least our money will not be taken away by scammers.

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Cryptocurrency fraud has developed into one of the biggest dangers in terms of crypto trading in recent years.  but they are hard to catch. ICO promoters perpetuate the biggest fraud ever, maybe 85% of people out there don't have bad intentions, but the problem is if 5-10% try to cheat, then this is a disaster.
I do not think that 85 percent of ICOs are initially thought of as a scam. I think that this happens in the process of project development. it all starts when people get a lot of money and then they are starting to want to steal it

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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
but everyone has to face there result for their doing at the end so it will not been possible in all the time to make a scam and fraud the people to get their funds definitely changes will make everything to be better field.
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ICO projects have had a bad reputation on this issue and this problem has become big in this industry, if we no longer believe in investing in ICO then finalizing the choice to only invest in bitcoin and other coins with high trust is the solution. Even though we need more time but at least our money will not be taken away by scammers.
Even if ICOs would still be trustworthy enough I don't think there is much profit to be made there since the chances of some ICO becoming successful have dramatically lowered because there are some many coins available on the market right now. We already have dozens of successful projects on the market and hundreds of altcoins available so I don't really think we need more than that.
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May 12, 2019, 09:26:37 PM
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There will be always risk since the whole cryptocurrencies are financial things. Your friends can just buy bitcoin, instead of joining ICO
but there is a possibility that people who are now joining the ICO will earn much more money than if they simply buy Bitcoin. that's why diversification exists
So, if you want to earn much more money you will have to take risk  Wink
Things do really need some risk to earn something and that's just usual with investment with ICO's.
You do need to take a risk to make some profits but it wont really be that easy yet ico's become shitty nowadays
and IEO is the new hype now but still have that kind of risk but much lesser due to security of IEO.
Scammers are everywhere,as long theres money involved these fellas wont disappear or we would never get rid of them.

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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

Well, it is because there are many peoples still not aware of the risk of being scammed in crypto.
If we aware of that, we will be more strict when choosing a project to investing with our money.

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Well, it is because there are many peoples still not aware of the risk of being scammed in crypto.
If we aware of that, we will be more strict when choosing a project to investing with our money.
we should be more willing and careful when choosing a project. because I think we all know there are too many scammers here, and we really have to improve our skills not to be fooled by scammers.

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Well, it is because there are many peoples still not aware of the risk of being scammed in crypto.
If we aware of that, we will be more strict when choosing a project to investing with our money.
we should be more willing and careful when choosing a project. because I think we all know there are too many scammers here, and we really have to improve our skills not to be fooled by scammers.
The legit team now are already eyeing for an IEO, they will not gonna have their crowdfunding in ICO as they know it will not sell anymore.
IEO is the trend now where people also give their trust, and we will know that the team really want to make their project succeed as they also need to finance the necessary expenses for listing.

This will result to the decrease of scammers in the market, hence the risk will be minimize.

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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

Yes, this is why we need regulatory measures in the crypto world because the industry is full of scammers and they just run away with ICO funds. I think once these regulations are put in place, ICO investors will be in safe hands.
ICO could be in safe hands only if we get the system regulated. But again, those who are making some big money might not love the idea of getting the system under the influence of a regulating authority. I think that IEO has covered the flaws in the ICO and now investors face the least risk when they participate in an IEO. In addition, it is not just the regulations but also about the security system of the exchanges that keep the trust restored in crypto.

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Well, it is because there are many peoples still not aware of the risk of being scammed in crypto.
If we aware of that, we will be more strict when choosing a project to investing with our money.
we should be more willing and careful when choosing a project. because I think we all know there are too many scammers here, and we really have to improve our skills not to be fooled by scammers.
The legit team now are already eyeing for an IEO, they will not gonna have their crowdfunding in ICO as they know it will not sell anymore.
IEO is the trend now where people also give their trust, and we will know that the team really want to make their project succeed as they also need to finance the necessary expenses for listing.

This will result to the decrease of scammers in the market, hence the risk will be minimize.
the risk will not be minimal. it will also be very high because there are still many options how the project founders can scam their investors even when they raising funds through the IEO

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Well, it is because there are many peoples still not aware of the risk of being scammed in crypto.
If we aware of that, we will be more strict when choosing a project to investing with our money.
we should be more willing and careful when choosing a project. because I think we all know there are too many scammers here, and we really have to improve our skills not to be fooled by scammers.
Improving your skills in selecting projects to support and invest will helps you to survive from this industry, scammers are always present where
money can be find, you have to work hard in order to avoid those scheme that scammers are offering, be very careful with your investment.
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In the world of cryptocurrency fraudsters will always be.  It is necessary to simply accept this and take for granted.  And the fact that they will be punished or not is another question.


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The main goal of crypto currencies is to stay anonym and this gives a huge advantage to the hackers from all around the world. We need to find some ways of bringing the security on the next level and be more selective with ICOs.
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IEO = more reliable than ICO?
I think it's a misleading thought, an IEO can just mean that some scammers have enough money (from previous scams for example) to do a sell on an exchange.
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Until whenever the scammers are always there, we live, can we not avoid scammers. The things we need to do to not be too trusting and remain careful, always be careful and alert to the projects we choose. This anonymous crypto world is indeed a scammer running freely and many of their goals are achieved, so we are required to be more careful.

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Yeah, the whole cryptocurrency concept is an innovative one but at the same time, it is important the loopholes in the system is fixed as scam projects are being launched day in day out, the scammers take away individuals as well as investors of their hard money. For How long should this continue before scam in the cryptocurrency industry is addressed?

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Well, it is because there are many peoples still not aware of the risk of being scammed in crypto.
If we aware of that, we will be more strict when choosing a project to investing with our money.
we should be more willing and careful when choosing a project. because I think we all know there are too many scammers here, and we really have to improve our skills not to be fooled by scammers.
Scamming is the easiest and the best way out there among the scammers to make quick easy money. The unbridled coin launches is the sole reason behind why so many people lost their money to fake projects. I vividly remember the time we had numerous tokens and coins out there in the market when it was 2017 boom. Since people were interested in investing in crypto due to FOMO, that thing was targeted by the scammers.
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Well, it is because there are many peoples still not aware of the risk of being scammed in crypto.
If we aware of that, we will be more strict when choosing a project to investing with our money.
we should be more willing and careful when choosing a project. because I think we all know there are too many scammers here, and we really have to improve our skills not to be fooled by scammers.
Scamming is the easiest and the best way out there among the scammers to make quick easy money. The unbridled coin launches is the sole reason behind why so many people lost their money to fake projects. I vividly remember the time we had numerous tokens and coins out there in the market when it was 2017 boom. Since people were interested in investing in crypto due to FOMO, that thing was targeted by the scammers.
Looks like there will be FOMO this year again, we haven't seen an altcoin FOMO yet but when it comes, hopefully people will make a good decision.
People surely have learned in the past and if newbies will try to study the market history, they might prevent themselves from getting scammed.

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It sounds like a threat to scammers, but it is unlikely they will read your post, and if they do, it will not stop them. I advise you and your friends to pay attention to IEO and learn how to better analyze projects, because even despite the huge number of scams you can find interesting ICO.

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Scammers are everywhere and we cant stop them but we can prevent and fight against those,we can stop them if we dont promote and we dont invest on the projects they run and we always make research in any projects that we want to invest.So if you are looking for a good and legit project try to have reviews in this project Dencoin.
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yeah you right, scammers is so free in cryptocurrency ICO.
i think ICO must have some standart to reduce a scam project like this.
if ICO have a security system and it will ensure investor who buy that token in ICO, it will much better and make ICO safe.

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I agree that the SEC must be more assertive in upholding the law for fraudsters who have harmed investors and of course it will have a negative impact on the development of crypto ...

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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
If only we have a governing body that will prosecute these ICO scammers, ICO will be ok and many investors will not shift to IEO or STO all investors wants a safe environment when investing, and they are more than willing to support and pour money in ICO.
I agree if there is a regulatory body that demands ICO fraud and investor funds must be returned if they experience fraud like this. so that new investors do not hesitate in fully investing their funds and supporting the ICO.
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
If only we have a governing body that will prosecute these ICO scammers, ICO will be ok and many investors will not shift to IEO or STO all investors wants a safe environment when investing, and they are more than willing to support and pour money in ICO.
I agree if there is a regulatory body that demands ICO fraud and investor funds must be returned if they experience fraud like this. so that new investors do not hesitate in fully investing their funds and supporting the ICO.

As long there is no regulation on ICOs or cryptocurrency market, scammers always can be free because no law can touch them. What we can do is prevent our self from scammed and always careful with our crypto and store it on our own wallet

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I'm not sure what you really said. Scammers will always be there, no matter what rule/law is applied. You must have done proper analysis before investing your money, it's your money, your responsibility. If people do enough research, they will barely lose or be scammed.

With law and regulation, it prevent scammers running free. The problem with scammers right now is they can not touch by law because a lot government not regulating ICO or cryptocurrency. People who scammed must be already make research but in the end, its depend on developers team.

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Scammers are everywhere and we cant stop them but we can prevent and fight against those,we can stop them if we dont promote and we dont invest on the projects they run and we always make research in any projects that we want to invest.So if you are looking for a good and legit project try to have reviews in this project Dencoin.


Shilling for Dencoin Eh? I don;t know if the project is legit or not but please find a topic more suitable for discussing about the project. I was about to giving you a merit but after watching your post history and watching you mentioning "Dencoin" in 13 out of 17 posts I stayed back.

If you are gonna discuss about Dencoin then make a Dencoin discussion thread or have a healthy discussion in ANN thread. Trying to pop out the project name in your posts out of nowhere shouldn't be the way.
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I agree that the SEC must be more assertive in upholding the law for fraudsters who have harmed investors and of course it will have a negative impact on the development of crypto ...

SEC regulation can regulate on ICOs. If SEC involve in cryptocurrency market, i think its good decision and good for cryptocurrency market because investor will trust more to invest. SEC hands can reach all around the world and its good to reducing scam ICOs
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Fraud in crypto currencies is increasingly rampant. A lot of fraud in crypto currencies because the perpetrator has no sanctions that are bound. If the offender commits fraud then they do not get a real punishment. They remain free without bearing any punishment. They cheat and they take all the funds that should be used to run the ICO. Indeed there are no strict sanctions in crypto currency but I only hope that crypto currency players have a knight spirit and play healthy without harming others.

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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

Well thats true and thats the risk you have to take when you are dealing with ICOs. I also agree that scammers should get arrested but I know its very hard to do since you are dealing with crypto which is very discreet. My advice is not to invest in ICOs if you are too worried about scammers. You can still try crypto market if you invest in trusted coins like bitcoin and ethereum.

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It is very unfortunate that scammers take advantage of the crypto network, creating fake projects and walking in broad daylight without getting caught. I really hope something is done about that asap

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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

If only we have great projects like what we've had back 2016 and 2017 these are the great years in investing, so many great projects that are until now are here, investing in ICO is like gambling, there is no guaranty that you can win here, and the worst part is it will take you so many months before you'll see the profit.

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Yes, it needs regulators. When they come, I think the scam will be less, or they will disappear completely. I believe that cryptocurrencies urgently need regulators.
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Yes, it needs regulators. When they come, I think the scam will be less,

This would happen.

or they will disappear completely.
But this one is impossible, even in real world, there's a regulation but scammers are still roaming around.

I believe that cryptocurrencies urgently need regulators.

If they government sees the urgency, they'll formulate a law for that to protect the investors of getting scam.
With that law in place, scams will be less and investments will be more.

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Yes, it needs regulators. When they come, I think the scam will be less, or they will disappear completely. I believe that cryptocurrencies urgently need regulators.
The gov't is now intervening with the popularity of crypto's because they also want to regulate the market into their place.
Transactions and as well as helping their citizens to warn what are the possible scams.

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June 22, 2019, 11:13:52 AM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

This is the thing that should be regulated, those people behind any crypto project must be accountable with all the money they get from each of their investors, there should be a body that regulate and enforce penalties for those who would just scam a project intentionally. There should be a criteria, qualification and/or requirement as well on how can a group/team could out up and develop a project. This will surely protect and help us all being a crypto investors to at least lessen the risk we take as we get involve in trading and in cryptocurrency as a whole.
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June 22, 2019, 12:55:12 PM
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Yes you have raised very much important and serious issue. The incidents of scam and hacking have been taking place ever since bitcoin has been issued some 10 years ago. Its intensity has increased lately when popularity of cryptocurrency has increased. But sadly, rarely arrest of such hackers and scammers has been made so far. It is so sad and bitter truth. 

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June 22, 2019, 01:33:58 PM
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Since when did crypto currencies became all about ICO? Your friend isn't joining the crypto market because of the ICO scams? Lol. Tell him not to invest on any ICO. Tell him to invest of bitcoin and other well known established altcoins. Bitcoin and those altcoins won't runaway with his funds  Wink.
Most of those ICOs remain completely anonymous. So there is no way (extremely hard) to take catch those culprits.

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June 22, 2019, 02:23:55 PM
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Unfortunately, one of the most common goals of the whole industry is to keep the anonymity on the high level. On the other hand, this anonymity gives a lot of chances for scammers to trick new community members.
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if your friend is afraid to invest in cryptocurrency because ICO is fully of scammers, why not invest in IEO.
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Scammer and perpetrators of fraud is can't be removed and will always there. Especially they are waiting for our data from the KYC process. I think it is warning for us to be careful again.

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Your friends have a normal reaction to the situation that is currently happening around us. You have to be a desperate person to make investments, knowing that there is a very big chance of being left without money. What are necessary are some drastic measures to restore order in this area.
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If some people refusing to join crypto market of course it’s their own decision, but in every kind of business there will always be some risks. I also don’t like the fact that hackers love crypto market alot but this won’t stop me to invest in crypto.
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If some people refusing to join crypto market of course it’s their own decision, but in every kind of business there will always be some risks. I also don’t like the fact that hackers love crypto market alot but this won’t stop me to invest in crypto.
You need to take the risk with full responsibilities, dealing with hackers and scammers is not easy you need to learned how they are working trying to penetrate and hacked your account or create something that will let you believe and invest your money, tough task but you need to deal with it if you wanted to survive and achieved working around without any fear of become victimized.
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It is necessary to develop methods of dealing with fraudsters and show them to the world. The best option for this may be smart contracts that will become guarantors between investors. We can change this world with you.
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This is the main reason why we need to regulate Crypto so the scammers will really pay what they will commit because there will be regulation, rules and guidelines that will somehow protect everyone in the Crypto Community. I just hope that regulations or guidelines will be properly accomplish so that everything will be fine.
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Until we begin to see where every developer goes to register with a particular regulatory body first, before can see scammers being apprehended.
These set of people are devising new means almost every time, so getting them apprehended seen to be tough.
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Can the ico scamer be caught by the police?
some scamers managed to raise funds and run, this became a big question after the thieves managed to become rich people and took investor funds.

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June 24, 2019, 11:28:52 PM
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Can the ico scamer be caught by the police?
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Yes it's possible.
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

At the time of registration of the project, they certainly had an address with the country where they founded the company. And in that country, of course there is legal legality about crypto or refers to public fraud. So you can report to the authorities in that country.

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it is very difficult to destroy scammers in crypto space even though regulations can be implemented, it is just a warning and most of them do not care about that. The Crypto Community should be better able to understand the risks experienced from the past and not support all forms of suspicious ico projects.

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June 25, 2019, 12:08:15 AM
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lately there are so many ico scammers who run away without any responsibility. they have been following their project for months, and when asked about the update from ico, they actually said the project was dead. at that time, there was no hope.
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

Indeed scammers make many people afraid to invest in the cryptocurrency market. But if they do research first before investing, it is less likely to participate in a scam project. Hopefully the government will issue a regulation that can punish scammers
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Scammers are running free after duping investors, traders, holders in crypto because it is a free market and has not got the full backing of the governments. For this reason, investors must be their own securities, stay alert and avoid all means of getting victimized by scammers. Don't be too greedy to follow enticing offers sent through emails. Some of these mails may be containing files that are used to phish the documents and log in wallet details of investors.

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Well, this is the part of the challenges facing investment in cryptocurrency. Ever since I joined crypto investment business, I have never seen or hear how scammers are arrested and jail for defrauding people and this is the reason why there has been increase in the scamming rate because a lot of scammers think this is the best way to scam people by creating fake ICO with fake team. Even I have come accross project that are registered in some international countries turning to scam also. Until we make scammers to start fearing creation of fake scam project. thing might not change
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Nice argument. If they have problem with ICOs then don't participate in them, what's that to do with crypto. Most of these scammers can be avoided by awareness.

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until now, most ICO project event is filled by scammer, it make investor and new investor think ten times before invest their money, and it made crypto more suffer.

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Can the ico scamer be caught by the police?
some scamers managed to raise funds and run, this became a big question after the thieves managed to become rich people and took investor funds.
Yes they can be jail when you report on police office.
don't forget to bought proof and to be sure that ICO you are report are scamed people not by issue.

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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
depending on the country the scammer is located and how the country treats such people or how the country react to such crime. You know in US they take scammers as a very serious crime and will not waste time to prosecute them. So if some countries take this very likely,  then you would see a different approach.

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June 25, 2019, 08:18:55 AM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
depending on the country the scammer is located and how the country treats such people or how the country react to such crime. You know in US they take scammers as a very serious crime and will not waste time to prosecute them. So if some countries take this very likely,  then you would see a different approach.

But most of the projects in ICO are not in the US, there are only few projects like CENTRA that was considered as they violated the law in the US, and they got jailed IIRC, so other projects are now smarter, they learn from the big mistake of CENTRA and they run their project in different country where crypto regulation is still lax.

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June 25, 2019, 08:26:23 AM
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Yes they can be jail when you report on police office.
don't forget to bought proof and to be sure that ICO you are report are scamed people not by issue.
the problem is that, if the document provided is fake then we won't be able to do anything. nobody knows who they are and who. it would be very difficult to find them.
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July 02, 2019, 12:07:28 AM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto


What about @Zooko who is milking all the ZCASH fork projects and creating free coins in each and selling them down to zero? BTCZ, BZE, VOT, HUSH, ZCL, BTCP all being sold off to zero satoshi.
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July 02, 2019, 01:28:43 AM
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This is the sad thing about this one. When fake ICOs launched and scam people, we cannot do anything but rather report it to the community and warn others not to invest in it. Sadly, those scammers can easily get away with the money they gathered without no trace of their personal life.
Experience and knoledge are everything, scamer have both it. when caught by people, they can change profil and replacing another project and do trying to scaming again. this is cyrcle situation.

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July 02, 2019, 01:30:53 AM
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scammers are indeed a special concern for crypto in the future. the need for learning and knowledge so as not to join and participate in investments that are scam. always be careful and choose a convincing investment.

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July 02, 2019, 02:45:15 AM
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Well i think there are still so many scammer that are running freely after they do scam to others, specially in crypto, in crypto there are so many ways for scammer to earn by doing a lot of scam things. That is why we need to be more careful and watch our moves in order for us to find a ways to detect a scammer.
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July 02, 2019, 05:09:49 AM
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this is due to the lack of strict regulations so that they are free to run when committing fraud, Cryptocurrency needs a power in a rule, so that it has a hard effect on everyone who tries to commit fraud and steal investor funds.

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July 02, 2019, 05:49:35 AM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto

Still going on, the scamming and there is not stopping on these scammers, bounty hunters and investors should do due diligence, this is the time to be more careful and to be wiser and to learn a lot, if they are making progress so are we, this is what happens to the unregulated market, they can do whatever they want.

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July 02, 2019, 07:57:47 AM
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this is due to the lack of strict regulations so that they are free to run when committing fraud, Cryptocurrency needs a power in a rule, so that it has a hard effect on everyone who tries to commit fraud and steal investor funds.

I guess the scam rate now is getting lower, AFAIK, most scams are from ICO but since investors have found IEO a better way to invest than ICO, so those random teams who will just create to scam will not be able to attract investors again.

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July 02, 2019, 08:15:22 AM
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At first there was a good ICO popularity and good earnings there. Then in this area came a lot of scams and investors began to lose their money. Now the popularity of iCO has fallen so it has become more difficult for scammers. Many investors turned their attention to IEO.

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July 02, 2019, 08:33:41 AM
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If there's a good opportunity scammers are nowhere. Its not surprising, even in the real market have also opportunist and syndicates. I don't think about scammers, I am concerned more for the people who became victims of scam. They can't file a complaint against them. Who were to be blamed? Are the scammers or the poor security?
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July 02, 2019, 09:23:03 AM
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Once bitten twice shy. It is not only you that have those that are scared of ICOs because of one or two investment in scammer project. I think, tougher rules or penalty should be applied on ICO to scare these project scammers out of crypto space.
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July 02, 2019, 11:32:01 AM
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto


What about @Zooko who is milking all the ZCASH fork projects and creating free coins in each and selling them down to zero? BTCZ, BZE, VOT, HUSH, ZCL, BTCP all being sold off to zero satoshi.

It depends on him creating trust for greedy people who want to make money quickly with easy x5 or x10 prices. They should accept such risks
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July 02, 2019, 12:00:57 PM
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If there's a good opportunity scammers are nowhere. Its not surprising, even in the real market have also opportunist and syndicates. I don't think about scammers, I am concerned more for the people who became victims of scam. They can't file a complaint against them. Who were to be blamed? Are the scammers or the poor security?
Those victims that patronizing the scam attempts are really hopeless once being victimized, scammers are everywhere and always looking for good chance
to take their advantages, if you want to avoid them before doing anything make sure to have full understanding of what investment form you are going to support to make sure you can do good precautions.
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July 02, 2019, 07:34:05 PM
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it is what it is, until regulation comes in
people would like non-scam market, but without regulation, for me that seems like an utopia
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Not until we start seeing crypto scammers get arrested for real many new investors won't join,I have friends that won't join crypto because of scammers running away with ICO funds forever ,no way to arrest them and get the funds out of them,the few news I read about getting some scammers is not enough ,the more there is an effective way the less scammers will harm crypto
I really don't think they are, some countries deal with scammers and give them the punishment they deserve. So I would say that it depends on what country the scammer is, as I know very well that the United States don't tolerate scammers

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