🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread

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True that. I don't see Fury going to UFC fight when he can earn what Dana can offer in boxing. But if Jones wants to earn more than Dana could offer, he might just jump to boxing regardless of win or lose the record won't matter if it comes to making more after all boxing is not his sports. That will be an excuse.

But Dana offering all these money while some champ earn less than 100k per fight makes it reasonable for Ngannou not to sign a new contract.

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[notblox1]

True that. I don't see Fury going to UFC fight when he can earn what Dana can offer in boxing. But if Jones wants to earn more than Dana could offer, he might just jump to boxing regardless of win or lose the record won't matter if it comes to making more after all boxing is not his sports. That will be an excuse.

Fury was very clear when he said that he can fight Jon Jones or anyone else only in boxing, and I respect that.
Dana is just trying to save the whole situation after Ngannou signed a new deal with PFL and announced with Fury, so he tried to ruined this for him.
Can you imagine he is calling world undisputed heavyweight boxing champion to make adventure excursion in MMA, that is so unrealistic and he knows it was all bullshit.

[tusandii]

From that fight I have a feeling that Dustin Poirier will win the fight and get the title.
After all, Poirier is a pretty great and brutal fighter so he doesn't hesitate to attack his opponent until he is injured.
I will prepare a sum of money to bet on Poirier's victory.

I would say that both have equal chances to win. Both prefer striking and brawl over tactics and ground game of chess. Both lost have losses against champs (Oliveira and Khabib) and have victories against top fighter (Chandler). On paper, Gaethji recent fights looks better. A victory over Fiziev I value more than a victory over McGregor via doctors stoppage in first round. Last years Fiziev is more dangerous than McGregor. Gaethji is famous for kicks, Poirier is better at boxing. The one who has higher pain threshold wins that fight.

Imho Gaethji looks more motivated to win. After two losses by submission, Poirier has lost that sparkle in his eyes. Does not matter if he has black BJJ belt, he does not know how to defend from bjj and wrestling attacks. And after a lost to Khabib he was like a cry baby, because he does not know how to beat wrestling/bjj guys.

If you say that there are opportunities, maybe both of them have the same opportunities, but there will still be their respective advantages that can differentiate them.
But Dustin Poirier and Justin Gaethje fought in 2018 and Dustin Poirier managed to finish the fight by TKO.
Maybe it was because of that defeat that was one of the reasons Gaethje challenged Poirier to fight and at the same time to fight for the BMF title.
Even though lately Poirier hasn't been fighting very well but with the fight for the belt I'm sure he can fight very well after all this is also proof that Poirier is better than Gaethje.

[YuginKadoya]

Comparing boxing to UFC is like comparing basketball's NBA to football. So how much do MMA and boxers receive regularly?

UFC is like Matchroom or Top Rank or PBC or Golden Boy in boxing. The difference is that the UFC is bigger than these 4 biggest boxing promotions combined. So why is it that they are less valued when Matchroom is paying Canelo and Joshua around $20 to $50 million per fight? Simple, the UFC makes PPV events to earn money while in boxing PPVs are made to pay fighters they cannot afford. The UFC takes nearly all of the PPV revenues while superstars in boxing will get 70% to even 100% of the revenues in their PPVs. The same reason why HBO left boxing is that PPVs involve a lot of money guarantees which is risky if it flops while it only takes a little to zero of the revenue.

Only 2 events per year in boxing? This weekend there are 5 championship fights in separate events. DAZN, ESPN, and Showtime have weekly events most of the time. So since the UFC has its own weekly events as well, does it mean it is losing money to many of its events which is why it needs to save money from their other events? Every event is supposed to earn revenue otherwise why stage the event? The UFC is earning a billion each year, does this sounds like it is having a hard time maintaining the purse of its fighters?

I don't really want to engage with this kind of topic anymore in comparing Boxing with MMA, because we already dealt with this in the past, and with the kind of payment boxing and MMA got it really has a different depth in it that could be talking about in many ways, but it will not have any closure at all and this will just continue sorry but it really annoys me but you guys are always welcome in the opening such topic but just like this I will just make approvement because any discussion is not really wrong,

Fury may sound dumb at times and I would gladly love to see him getting choked cold by Jon. But the reality is Fury is always careful and greedy when it comes to money and his undefeated record. And Jon actually has no say if he wants to earn big bucks against Fury. Fury probably earned around a hundred million dollars in his last 3 fights, why would he allow Dana and Jon to dictate the terms? Belly was probably laughing and mocking after seeing and hearing Dana's statement.

Well, I have seen a video of Tyson Fury saying that he ain't going in no cage, talking to Israel Adesanya so I really think that Tyson Fury VS Jon Jones inside the MMA cage will surely not happen for sure, for sure just like you have said Fury is always careful and greedy he would not be taking any fight at all if he is not winning it that is what I think about Tyson Fury,

[tokeweed]

From that fight I have a feeling that Dustin Poirier will win the fight and get the title.
After all, Poirier is a pretty great and brutal fighter so he doesn't hesitate to attack his opponent until he is injured.
I will prepare a sum of money to bet on Poirier's victory.

I would say that both have equal chances to win. Both prefer striking and brawl over tactics and ground game of chess. Both lost have losses against champs (Oliveira and Khabib) and have victories against top fighter (Chandler). On paper, Gaethji recent fights looks better. A victory over Fiziev I value more than a victory over McGregor via doctors stoppage in first round. Last years Fiziev is more dangerous than McGregor. Gaethji is famous for kicks, Poirier is better at boxing. The one who has higher pain threshold wins that fight.

Imho Gaethji looks more motivated to win. After two losses by submission, Poirier has lost that sparkle in his eyes. Does not matter if he has black BJJ belt, he does not know how to defend from bjj and wrestling attacks. And after a lost to Khabib he was like a cry baby, because he does not know how to beat wrestling/bjj guys.

If you say that there are opportunities, maybe both of them have the same opportunities, but there will still be their respective advantages that can differentiate them.
But Dustin Poirier and Justin Gaethje fought in 2018 and Dustin Poirier managed to finish the fight by TKO.
Maybe it was because of that defeat that was one of the reasons Gaethje challenged Poirier to fight and at the same time to fight for the BMF title.
Even though lately Poirier hasn't been fighting very well but with the fight for the belt I'm sure he can fight very well after all this is also proof that Poirier is better than Gaethje.

Wdym?  Poirier has lost only vs Oliveira in his last 5 matches who's beast in his own right.  I think both these guys just wants one more shot at the title at 155 then retire.  Poirier fought McGregor twice and won.  He made enough money off of him there.  Gaethje on the other hand could be the hungrier guy here.  So this time around I think I'll have Gaethje.  But the lines are kinda close with Gaethje the slight underdog at 2.05 atm...  Hopefully the line moves and gives a tad more value for Gaethje.

Another thing is I think Poirier will retire if he loses...  Just a hunch.

[bittraffic]

Though we saw them before, Gaeth vs Poirier is an exciting fight. Can't say who's better this time but whoever wins at least we see another Islam fight. But I'm going to stick with Poirier to win. Hed done before and can do it again.

But since TopTort77 mention Poirier has no defence against ground games, he might lose against Islam. Too ironic to see a BJJ belt holder can not defend himself against a BJJ attack.

[tusandii]

From that fight I have a feeling that Dustin Poirier will win the fight and get the title.
After all, Poirier is a pretty great and brutal fighter so he doesn't hesitate to attack his opponent until he is injured.
I will prepare a sum of money to bet on Poirier's victory.

I would say that both have equal chances to win. Both prefer striking and brawl over tactics and ground game of chess. Both lost have losses against champs (Oliveira and Khabib) and have victories against top fighter (Chandler). On paper, Gaethji recent fights looks better. A victory over Fiziev I value more than a victory over McGregor via doctors stoppage in first round. Last years Fiziev is more dangerous than McGregor. Gaethji is famous for kicks, Poirier is better at boxing. The one who has higher pain threshold wins that fight.

Imho Gaethji looks more motivated to win. After two losses by submission, Poirier has lost that sparkle in his eyes. Does not matter if he has black BJJ belt, he does not know how to defend from bjj and wrestling attacks. And after a lost to Khabib he was like a cry baby, because he does not know how to beat wrestling/bjj guys.

If you say that there are opportunities, maybe both of them have the same opportunities, but there will still be their respective advantages that can differentiate them.
But Dustin Poirier and Justin Gaethje fought in 2018 and Dustin Poirier managed to finish the fight by TKO.
Maybe it was because of that defeat that was one of the reasons Gaethje challenged Poirier to fight and at the same time to fight for the BMF title.
Even though lately Poirier hasn't been fighting very well but with the fight for the belt I'm sure he can fight very well after all this is also proof that Poirier is better than Gaethje.

Wdym?  Poirier has lost only vs Oliveira in his last 5 matches who's beast in his own right.  I think both these guys just wants one more shot at the title at 155 then retire.  Poirier fought McGregor twice and won.  He made enough money off of him there.  Gaethje on the other hand could be the hungrier guy here.  So this time around I think I'll have Gaethje.  But the lines are kinda close with Gaethje the slight underdog at 2.05 atm...  Hopefully the line moves and gives a tad more value for Gaethje.

Another thing is I think Poirier will retire if he loses...  Just a hunch.

Yes I know that but it's about Dustin Poirier vs Justin Gaethje and Poirier once beat Gaethje by TKO so he wants revenge by fighting Poirier.
He's still 34 years old he could still fight a few fights before deciding to retire so even if he loses to Gaethje I'm not sure he'll retire.
His fight with McGregor did make a lot of money but this is not about money but also about his career and pride when he loses he retires immediately.
I'm sure if Poirier loses he will prepare everything and decide to fight Gaethje again.

[eaLiTy]

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But since TopTort77 mention Poirier has no defence against ground games, he might lose against Islam. Too ironic to see a BJJ belt holder can not defend himself against a BJJ attack.

There are levels to the ground game and his recent losses were against Khabib Nurmagomedov and Charles Oliveira who are elite ground technicians and that too to rear naked choke and they were able to submit him when he was exhausted. Against Islam who is yet another elite ground specialist, he could have a chance with his boxing skills as he is an elite striker but he could hold his ground against other ground fighters.

[YuginKadoya]

Wdym?  Poirier has lost only vs Oliveira in his last 5 matches who's beast in his own right.  I think both these guys just wants one more shot at the title at 155 then retire.  Poirier fought McGregor twice and won.  He made enough money off of him there.  Gaethje on the other hand could be the hungrier guy here.  So this time around I think I'll have Gaethje.  But the lines are kinda close with Gaethje the slight underdog at 2.05 atm...  Hopefully the line moves and gives a tad more value for Gaethje.

Another thing is I think Poirier will retire if he loses...  Just a hunch.

I like Gaethje aswell If these two meets inside the cage I would go with Justin Gaethje even though he is the underdog, that would be a great deal of profit, I don't really see Dustin Poirier being that technical he could just go on with the brawl and even if he becomes technical for me Justin Gaethje can be much more technical than Dustin,

If Dustin Retires I think it is a good thing for him to retire and enjoy this moments with his family,

Though we saw them before, Gaeth vs Poirier is an exciting fight. Can't say who's better this time but whoever wins at least we see another Islam fight. But I'm going to stick with Poirier to win. Hed done before and can do it again.

But since TopTort77 mention Poirier has no defence against ground games, he might lose against Islam. Too ironic to see a BJJ belt holder can not defend himself against a BJJ attack.

I kind of remember the Islam Makhachev comments on who has given Poirier the Jui Jitsu Black Belt just because he doesn't win via submission, and always goes with the striking, I think Dustin Poirier wants to be more flashy with those knockouts but here is a video compilation that Dustin Poirier remembers Makhachev saying that Who has given him blackbelt and here is Dustin Poirier Demonstrate his Jui Jitsu to a bodybuilder

I think Dustin got some defensive move against the ground but it is only limited and his opponent just got superior knowledge on the ground game,

[TopTort777]

Yeah yeah, Poirier has bjj black belt, but shows zero defence against guys who has blue and purple belts Sort of Tim Credeur gave him that belt in 2017 for just visint bjj classes, and black because "Poirier is a top UFC fighter".

https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2017/12/ufc-dustin-poirier-jiu-jiu-black-belt-tim-credeur here is said that Poirier has been practicing grappling for 11 years. Well, those 11 years did not help him at all not to tap in most important fights in his career.

[tokeweed]

^  Yeah...  Some fighters' grappling credentials don't translate in MMA mostly because of the style they fight.  But if they go join an all grappling BJJ tourney they'd prolly be decent.  Another guy who hasn't shown much BJJ in the cage is Shogun Rua.  Lol.  It's always been highlighted that he's a BJJ black belt bet he never uses it because he wants to bash heads with his fists.  

And BJJ in MMA is different as you have to watch out for strikes and take downs, same as how boxing is different in MMA.  That's why I don't think Nate Diaz's 'boxing' will be very effective against Jake Paul.  

Anyway, KKF and Albazi's lines are closing in.  It's essentially a coin flip now.

[yazher]

But since TopTort77 mention Poirier has no defence against ground games, he might lose against Islam. Too ironic to see a BJJ belt holder can not defend himself against a BJJ attack.

There are levels to the ground game and his recent losses were against Khabib Nurmagomedov and Charles Oliveira who are elite ground technicians and that too to rear naked choke and they were able to submit him when he was exhausted. Against Islam who is yet another elite ground specialist, he could have a chance with his boxing skills as he is an elite striker but he could hold his ground against other ground fighters.
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That only happens if Islam hasn't improved his defensive skills after his fight with Alexander Volkanovski it was a hell of a battle for him and because of that fight he learned a lot about his weakness and he is working to level it up especially his stamina in the late rounds. The only chance Poirier have is when he luckily lands a powerful combo against Islam and with his power punches, I doubt if he will gonna recover from that easily but before Poirier can do that, he will find himself on the ground smashed by Islam Makachev.

[Minecache]

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But since TopTort77 mention Poirier has no defence against ground games, he might lose against Islam. Too ironic to see a BJJ belt holder can not defend himself against a BJJ attack.

There are levels to the ground game and his recent losses were against Khabib Nurmagomedov and Charles Oliveira who are elite ground technicians and that too to rear naked choke and they were able to submit him when he was exhausted. Against Islam who is yet another elite ground specialist, he could have a chance with his boxing skills as he is an elite striker but he could hold his ground against other ground fighters.

That only happens if Islam hasn't improved his defensive skills after his fight with Alexander Volkanovski it was a hell of a battle for him and because of that fight he learned a lot about his weakness and he is working to level it up especially his stamina in the late rounds. The only chance Poirier have is when he luckily lands a powerful combo against Islam and with his power punches, I doubt if he will gonna recover from that easily but before Poirier can do that, he will find himself on the ground smashed by Islam Makachev.

Porier is certainly a good fighter. Islam is also very good and of course one of the best in the business right now. But the thing is I still do not think Islam is at the level of Khabib. If there was a fight between Islam and Khabib, I think Islam would have been the losing participant. Khabib was on a whole another level and I do not see anyone at that level, to be honest. Arguments can be made about Jon Jones against Khabib. But that's something we never got to see and I don't think I am going to talk about that as well.

Anyway, I also believe that Islam will dominate Porier on the ground. I also do not think the fight is going to stay off the ground for long especially when we know Islam knows about the strength of Porier.

[notblox1]

And BJJ in MMA is different as you have to watch out for strikes and take downs, same as how boxing is different in MMA.  That's why I don't think Nate Diaz's 'boxing' will be very effective against Jake Paul.  

I am not giving Nate Diaz big chances in this fight against Jake Paul, but man he knows how to take a lot of beating and I dont think he can lose with KO.
If this fight was happening in MMA I would give advantage to Nate Diaz, but maybe it will happen in future because I believe he signed a contract like that with PFL.
I made a lot of jokes with Jake Paul before but after recent fights he proved to be tough and he learns quickly.

[TopTort777]

And BJJ in MMA is different as you have to watch out for strikes and take downs, same as how boxing is different in MMA.  That's why I don't think Nate Diaz's 'boxing' will be very effective against Jake Paul.  

I am not giving Nate Diaz big chances in this fight against Jake Paul, but man he knows how to take a lot of beating and I dont think he can lose with KO.
If this fight was happening in MMA I would give advantage to Nate Diaz, but maybe it will happen in future because I believe he signed a contract like that with PFL.
I made a lot of jokes with Jake Paul before but after recent fights he proved to be tough and he learns quickly.

I also used to laugh and make fun of Jake Paul. But that guy truly have balls. Because he has stepped in the ring with guys who were training since being kids and as a pro fighters, have lethal skills. Jake instead, spend half of his live being in front of camera, not in front of punching bag or opponent, and managed to show good results against one of the best. Not to mention how much interest he has brought into boxing and MMA, how many new kids found out about boxing and fighting, instead of filming how they pranking people.

Speaking about Nate and Jake fight, it will be all in favour for Jake. Nate was never a good striker, he has never good defence against strikes. Those always relaxed and fist on the belly, a boxer will quickly use that as an advantage.

[YuginKadoya]

Yeah yeah, Poirier has bjj black belt, but shows zero defence against guys who has blue and purple belts Sort of Tim Credeur gave him that belt in 2017 for just visint bjj classes, and black because "Poirier is a top UFC fighter".

https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2017/12/ufc-dustin-poirier-jiu-jiu-black-belt-tim-credeur here is said that Poirier has been practicing grappling for 11 years. Well, those 11 years did not help him at all not to tap in most important fights in his career.

Well, that is why Islam Makhachev is asking about their credentials and who have given them the black belt for sure I don't really know Dustin Poirier's background history, but based on his fighting style most of the time he only knows rear-naked chokes, for me it is the most basic, and he really doesn't display good defense towards this, for sure Makhachev is right,

^  Yeah...  Some fighters' grappling credentials don't translate in MMA mostly because of the style they fight.  But if they go join an all grappling BJJ tourney they'd prolly be decent.  Another guy who hasn't shown much BJJ in the cage is Shogun Rua.  Lol.  It's always been highlighted that he's a BJJ black belt bet he never uses it because he wants to bash heads with his fists.  

And BJJ in MMA is different as you have to watch out for strikes and take downs, same as how boxing is different in MMA.  That's why I don't think Nate Diaz's 'boxing' will be very effective against Jake Paul.  

Anyway, KKF and Albazi's lines are closing in.  It's essentially a coin flip now.

There are so many differences between having a BJJ technique and not having BJJ at all but surely those black belts are just for displayed purposes only, just to say that they are black belts, well you got a point there brother it is pretty much a different thing, that I think can not get along for sure,


Guys, there is a new One-Eyed Prospect for the UFC and his name was Sharabutdin Magomedov, he is from TFC Championship and is sure his opponent is trying to expose him by going to his right side where they think he can not see, but he is using this to defeat his opponent, and because of this he got a record of 10 KO wins and 1 decision one, and never had a lost, for sure a new prospect from Dagestan,

[danherbias07]

And BJJ in MMA is different as you have to watch out for strikes and take downs, same as how boxing is different in MMA.  That's why I don't think Nate Diaz's 'boxing' will be very effective against Jake Paul.  

I am not giving Nate Diaz big chances in this fight against Jake Paul, but man he knows how to take a lot of beating and I dont think he can lose with KO.
If this fight was happening in MMA I would give advantage to Nate Diaz, but maybe it will happen in future because I believe he signed a contract like that with PFL.
I made a lot of jokes with Jake Paul before but after recent fights he proved to be tough and he learns quickly.

He sure is. But I still dislike the entertainment part of their fights which usually are made from hype by the social media people and then that's when they will start a fight. It's still better if they go pro and do not pick fighters out of other sports. He is a cruiserweight, let us see how he will deal with pro boxers in major titles. Maybe that will cement the fact that he is a tough fighter.

Regarding Nate Diaz fighting Jake Paul, I don't see him winning this match. He has a tough chin but his fist might not really affect Jake Paul too much as it was not really made for that. If it's MMA, then yes I might bet for him but he can do little when it's boxing only and there will be no fakes such as takedown attempts. This is Paul's domain so he will definitely win it.

[tokeweed]

And BJJ in MMA is different as you have to watch out for strikes and take downs, same as how boxing is different in MMA.  That's why I don't think Nate Diaz's 'boxing' will be very effective against Jake Paul.  

I am not giving Nate Diaz big chances in this fight against Jake Paul, but man he knows how to take a lot of beating and I dont think he can lose with KO.
If this fight was happening in MMA I would give advantage to Nate Diaz, but maybe it will happen in future because I believe he signed a contract like that with PFL.
I made a lot of jokes with Jake Paul before but after recent fights he proved to be tough and he learns quickly.

It's not a question of durability.  It's a question of Nate Diaz's motivation in taking this match up.  I watched their press conference, the one with Diaz leaving the whole thing.  Lol.  From the looks of it the guy is disinterested and just wants to pick up some boxing money and leave.  So he'll prolly just look for the first opportunity to quit.  Dunno... But fk me if it's all mind games and Diaz comes out really ripped and ready to go to war for all 8 rounds.  

Dropping a free fight vid to watch before the event...  Enjoy.

UFC Free Fight: KKF vs Cody Garbrandt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s-J_7mz3yE

[Welsh]

I might be able to get some predictions out for this weekends card, actually. I haven't had a whole lot of time to watch the tape of the fighters, so a lot of the predictions will likely be a shot in the dark. Maybe, with one of my smallest accumulators in a while. Looking to put 2-4 fights on there at the moment.

I think the Nurmagomedov fight, has the potential to catch a lot of those that do bet on the fight in favour of him, simply because of his name. I think it'll be a close fight, and for me personally isn't going to be one of the fights I put on my betting slip.

[notblox1]

It's not a question of durability.  It's a question of Nate Diaz's motivation in taking this match up.  I watched their press conference, the one with Diaz leaving the whole thing.  Lol.  From the looks of it the guy is disinterested and just wants to pick up some boxing money and leave.  So he'll prolly just look for the first opportunity to quit.  Dunno... But fk me if it's all mind games and Diaz comes out really ripped and ready to go to war for all 8 rounds.  

Maybe, but maybe he just smoked more weed and he didnt care about anything when he gave that interview  
I know that his face is probably so messed up that only a few punches will make him bleed a lot, but he is not distracted with blood.
This fight will bring him a lot of money and I am sure he wont quit that easy.

I might be able to get some predictions out for this weekends card, actually. I haven't had a whole lot of time to watch the tape of the fighters, so a lot of the predictions will likely be a shot in the dark. Maybe, with one of my smallest accumulators in a while. Looking to put 2-4 fights on there at the moment.

Blind predictions are sometimes better than doing full research and watching all previous fights
Not many big names in this UFC card, but one name caught my eye and that is Khabibs cousin Nurmagomedov Abubakar fighting against Elizeu Zaleski.