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July 04, 2023, 01:24:00 PM
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That is actually surprising, if it is hard for ufc to find enough fighters to close all the wholes in card. Wont believe there arent much middleweight fighters to fill every promotion division. Middleweight is is like an average adult  Grin finding a heavyweight fighter - well that is hard. Finding middleweights seems easy. Or the problem is that fighters dont want to cut?

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July 05, 2023, 06:14:20 AM
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Sadly, the fight Bo Nickal VS Tresean Gore is not going to happen, as Gore has an injury and withdrew from the tournament... He is replaced with Val Woodburn, a guy from same Dana White Contender series. This is gonna be Woodburn debut, and imho an unsuccessful debut, as his opponent is a real wrestling master, while Val seems to be a simply steroid guy.

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July 05, 2023, 06:19:53 AM
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Sadly, the fight Bo Nickal VS Tresean Gore is not going to happen, as Gore has an injury and withdrew from the tournament... He is replaced with Val Woodburn, a guy from same Dana White Contender series. This is gonna be Woodburn debut, and imho an unsuccessful debut, as his opponent is a real wrestling master, while Val seems to be a simply steroid guy.
It's sad that was an interesting fight to watch. About Gores replaciment I don't know much beside his name. Let's see can he bring a interesting fight but I doubt so since Bo Nickal is a really sharp fighter.
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July 05, 2023, 09:44:00 AM
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Sadly, the fight Bo Nickal VS Tresean Gore is not going to happen, as Gore has an injury and withdrew from the tournament... He is replaced with Val Woodburn, a guy from same Dana White Contender series. This is gonna be Woodburn debut, and imho an unsuccessful debut, as his opponent is a real wrestling master, while Val seems to be a simply steroid guy.
It's sad that was an interesting fight to watch. About Gores replaciment I don't know much beside his name. Let's see can he bring a interesting fight but I doubt so since Bo Nickal is a really sharp fighter.

I doubt that both Gore or Woodburn gonna cause real trouble to Nickal. Both of his opponents are only trained for MMA and got around 6-10 pro fights, they dont have huge competition background as Nickal. Bo is from sport family, he has started training wrestling since 8 and got a huge wrestling background. Imho both Gore and Woodburn gonna be just another skulls on his record wall. Look at his record - 4-0 and all fights dont last more than first round or first minute. He'll choke those guys. Specially Woodburn. He does not look like a guy with huge stamina tank.

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July 05, 2023, 10:03:03 AM
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That is actually surprising, if it is hard for ufc to find enough fighters to close all the wholes in card. Wont believe there arent much middleweight fighters to fill every promotion division. Middleweight is is like an average adult  Grin finding a heavyweight fighter - well that is hard. Finding middleweights seems easy. Or the problem is that fighters dont want to cut?

They are maybe short of fighters available since there are lots of MMA associations out there unlike Boxing they only have a few fighters and not enough to fill the whole card every time. But when their Main Event are mostly good and you don't want to miss them especially since they always have great fights available every year this is their advantage because the only time you will see boxers face their great rivals is when they finalized their negotiations after years of negotiating. In the UFC, is really easy once Dana White decides, the fighters will likely approve it right away.
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July 05, 2023, 12:18:36 PM
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Sadly, the fight Bo Nickal VS Tresean Gore is not going to happen, as Gore has an injury and withdrew from the tournament... He is replaced with Val Woodburn, a guy from same Dana White Contender series. This is gonna be Woodburn debut, and imho an unsuccessful debut, as his opponent is a real wrestling master, while Val seems to be a simply steroid guy.

It's ok..  As long as Bo Nickal is still in the event.  But It would've been good to see him fight a guy with more than a couple of UFC matches under his belt.  :/  Esp after he won vs Jamie Pickett in an impressive fashion.  Pretty sure the under 1.5 rounds is gonna be juiced around 1.50 when the match up goes online.

And I noticed a sharp line movement in the Kirk vs Ribovics match.  The money is piling in on Kirk...  Could be a coin flip by fight day.  Possible injury?  There's some small line movements here and there but nothing like Kirk vs Ribovics.  

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July 05, 2023, 09:43:21 PM
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This time whole main card looks promising plus Lawlers fight from prelims Cheesy Another test for Volkanovski. How many title defences he has already made? Few more and new UFC record? Arent Volkanovski and Makhachev are planning to fight again? First they were not planning to do it, but later Volkan insisted on him winning their fight and media start to buzz again lately.

I am really excited for them to fight again, but for me, Alexander Volkonovski's next opponent Yair Rodriguez is not slack, and Volk has said that this is going to be one crazy fight because Yair's movement will be very difficult to predict because he got unique move and technique on his set, pretty much Alexander Volkanovski will use his wits and fight IQ in winning in this fight but for sure Rodriguez doesn't have infinite stamina and so Volk will surely capitalize on this,


This is the most packed UFC event that I have seen even the Preliminary Cards have a juicy fight that is likely a good watch from the main event and all of the main card fights are great, actually, I don't know where to start Alexander Volkanovski and Yair Rodriguez will be the sure banger of the night, and surely Brandon Moreno will defend his title to Alexandre Pantoja, we have Robert Whittaker fighting Dricus Du Plessis, from Dan Hooker, and Bo Nickal the Main card is really stacked with an amazing fight while the Preliminary card was also a great banger of a fight, starting with Robbie Lawler,  Jack Della Maddalena, Jimmy Crute, Tatsuro Taira and Edgar Cháirez, Vitor Petrino Terrence Mitchell was all the fighters that I have an idea with, going with the event,

I kind of agree even the Preliminary Card is surely jam pack with great fights Robbie Lawler is back, for me, I think he should stay retired, but anyway he wants to fight and so I think Niko Price is a great match for him, but anyway let's just home the legendary Robbie Lawler win this, Jack Della Maddalena is a great watch actually all of his fights was insane so yeah keeping an eye for this, Jimmy Crute is also a recommended watch aswell, and the undefeated Japanese fighter Tatsuro Taira will surely force a submission on his opponent,

It is just a bummer that Deiveson Figueiredo and Sean Brady can not fight at this event Figueiredo is Not Medically Cleared but without any detail yet, and Brady got Infection,
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July 06, 2023, 10:20:59 AM
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This time whole main card looks promising plus Lawlers fight from prelims Cheesy Another test for Volkanovski. How many title defences he has already made? Few more and new UFC record? Arent Volkanovski and Makhachev are planning to fight again? First they were not planning to do it, but later Volkan insisted on him winning their fight and media start to buzz again lately.

I am really excited for them to fight again, but for me, Alexander Volkonovski's next opponent Yair Rodriguez is not slack, and Volk has said that this is going to be one crazy fight because Yair's movement will be very difficult to predict because he got unique move and technique on his set, pretty much Alexander Volkanovski will use his wits and fight IQ in winning in this fight but for sure Rodriguez doesn't have infinite stamina and so Volk will surely capitalize on this,

I think that Rodriguez gonna be declassed badly this weekend. You are correct when talking about Rodriguez stamina. He is always breathing hard in late rounds. Take his opponents previous fight - after 5 rounds against one top p4p fighters, he was ready to continue. Rodriguez is a master of all kind of kicks. Gimli, even though isnt highest fighter, got nice reach. He can take Yairs leg, take down or counterpunch hard, and Yair has weak boxing skills. Yair already lost to Holloway, and Holloway is like Volkanovski on low settings Cheesy

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July 06, 2023, 01:25:43 PM
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^  Yup and it will not be a surprise.  Lol.  Volk could make it look the price for him now should be a lot lower in the betting market after the match starts.

About Rodriguez's cardio, it isn't really that bad.  Didn't he have 5 rounders vs Holloway and TKZ?  Both went to the last round and he still had enough left in the tank to get going.

Pre fight press conference starts in around 10 hours.  Let's see what kind of trash talk these guys brought for this one.  Wink

UFC 290:  Pre Fight Press Conference
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This time whole main card looks promising plus Lawlers fight from prelims Cheesy Another test for Volkanovski. How many title defences he has already made? Few more and new UFC record? Arent Volkanovski and Makhachev are planning to fight again? First they were not planning to do it, but later Volkan insisted on him winning their fight and media start to buzz again lately.

I am really excited for them to fight again, but for me, Alexander Volkonovski's next opponent Yair Rodriguez is not slack, and Volk has said that this is going to be one crazy fight because Yair's movement will be very difficult to predict because he got unique move and technique on his set, pretty much Alexander Volkanovski will use his wits and fight IQ in winning in this fight but for sure Rodriguez doesn't have infinite stamina and so Volk will surely capitalize on this,

I think that Rodriguez gonna be declassed badly this weekend. You are correct when talking about Rodriguez stamina. He is always breathing hard in late rounds. Take his opponents previous fight - after 5 rounds against one top p4p fighters, he was ready to continue. Rodriguez is a master of all kind of kicks. Gimli, even though isnt highest fighter, got nice reach. He can take Yairs leg, take down or counterpunch hard, and Yair has weak boxing skills. Yair already lost to Holloway, and Holloway is like Volkanovski on low settings Cheesy

It's going to be a battle. Unfortunate to see Yair is paired with someone bound to do more. Volkanov will make sure he gets close and wrestle Yair, this is going to be challenging for both since Yair also understands this is what Volkanov would need to do so Yair can't use his kicks.

There are so many good matches in this event. Moreno by Decision is my gamble, just maybe the fight will last.
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That is actually surprising, if it is hard for ufc to find enough fighters to close all the wholes in card. Wont believe there arent much middleweight fighters to fill every promotion division. Middleweight is is like an average adult  Grin finding a heavyweight fighter - well that is hard. Finding middleweights seems easy. Or the problem is that fighters dont want to cut?

If the number declines then the Middleweight will become stagnant again on Israel Adesanya only, if the winning of Adesanya keeps to continue, well after Alex Pereira decided to go up the Light heavyweight to face Jamahal "Sweet Dreams" Hill for the belt, while Jan Błachowicz is going down the Middleweight to get the belt from Israel Adesanya, talk about changing weight class, It will not likely have a solution to the problem but it is going to be an interesting twist of events,


I kind of agree even the Preliminary Card is surely jam pack with great fights Robbie Lawler is back, for me, I think he should stay retired, but anyway he wants to fight and so I think Niko Price is a great match for him, but anyway let's just home the legendary Robbie Lawler win this, Jack Della Maddalena is a great watch actually all of his fights was insane so yeah keeping an eye for this, Jimmy Crute is also a recommended watch aswell, and the undefeated Japanese fighter Tatsuro Taira will surely force a submission on his opponent,

It is just a bummer that Deiveson Figueiredo and Sean Brady can not fight at this event Figueiredo is Not Medically Cleared but without any detail yet, and Brady got Infection,

Actually, I don't like Robbie Lawler coming back to the UFC, but the one that I like to see just like you,  Jack Della Maddalena, Jimmy Crute, and Tatsuro Taira was the 3 fighters for the Preliminary that I want to win, even though they are likely in the Preliminary their fight will surely rock the octagon on a better result for sure, so yeah I will take note on this fight will not going to bet for them but will be picking them on winning,


It's going to be a battle. Unfortunate to see Yair is paired with someone bound to do more. Volkanov will make sure he gets close and wrestle Yair, this is going to be challenging for both since Yair also understands this is what Volkanov would need to do so Yair can't use his kicks.

There are so many good matches in this event. Moreno by Decision is my gamble, just maybe the fight will last.
Whittaker is up to get a 3rd fight against Izzy, I think it's an easy win against Dricus.



I Agree that distance will be a crucial equalizer for this fight and Volk will use that to his advantage, and if Yair Rodriguez will not train his boxing because I think he is training on it now, with his grappling and takedowns because that will be the crucial thing with this fight that kicks will not be effective in a close quarter fight, but Rodriguez also has some knee and flying knee to get Volkanovski, but for sure Alexander Volkanovski's boxing and fight IQ will be extremely tested here,

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About Rodriguez's cardio, it isn't really that bad.  Didn't he have 5 rounders vs Holloway and TKZ?  Both went to the last round and he still had enough left in the tank to get going.

He had two 5 rounders (Volks has 5 5 rounders in last 6 fights and always looked like he can go for more round by the end of the fight). Maybe it wasnt good to say that he is bad at stamina, but then it is better to say that his fighting style does not match the amount stamina he has Cheesy He is not a heavy breather in late rounds, but Yair in first round is completely different from Yair in third round. All those high kick, round kick, jumps that he likes eat to much stamina, way to much. While their effectiveness is questionable.

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I think that Rodriguez gonna be declassed badly this weekend. You are correct when talking about Rodriguez stamina. He is always breathing hard in late rounds. Take his opponents previous fight - after 5 rounds against one top p4p fighters, he was ready to continue. Rodriguez is a master of all kind of kicks. Gimli, even though isnt highest fighter, got nice reach. He can take Yairs leg, take down or counterpunch hard, and Yair has weak boxing skills. Yair already lost to Holloway, and Holloway is like Volkanovski on low settings Cheesy

This is what I think may happen Volkanovski might pull a stamina reduction procedure on Rodriguez well he might let Yair Rodriguez do those kicks and knee and strikes and all Volkanovski would do is just evade all those but this is pretty much dangerous for Volk, he might end up getting hit by those unpredictable movements of Yair Rodriguez, but for me the one that could landed a error in his game will be the one that may have a casualty in getting pulverize for me Yair Rodriguez would likely end up in so much mistakes and Volk could capitalize on that,


Actually, I don't like Robbie Lawler coming back to the UFC, but the one that I like to see just like you,  Jack Della Maddalena, Jimmy Crute, and Tatsuro Taira was the 3 fighters for the Preliminary that I want to win, even though they are likely in the Preliminary their fight will surely rock the octagon on a better result for sure, so yeah I will take note on this fight will not going to bet for them but will be picking them on winning,


Robbie Lawler is a legend well even though he is a returning fighter he is good back in his day, and I surely like to see if there are an improvement on him or father time already gotten into him, I just want to know the result, but anyway I likely don't want to see much fights that are going the distance, but surely the fight that have gone the distance with a bang, but seeing most of the fights of these fighters we can surely approve with their performance for sure,

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I find it funny that we had a title fight between Moreno and Pantoja in flyweight division, but only few here said few words about it. Just "we had a good fight" kind of comments Cheesy A title fight and people seems to show no interested in it. Neither here, nor on YouTube. Are Moreno of flyweight boring? Or Pantoja is not much of a challenger for Moreno (even though he is top2).

Lol, duelbits give 1.04 on Bo Nickal in his fight against Valentine Woodburn Cheesy I think I have seen such low odds only in football.

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^  Moreno vs Pantoja is the best match up in the roster imho.  Could be possible FOTN even.  And I don't even know how Pantoja is lined at 2.70 here.  Lol.  That's good value as I think the fight is gonna be closer contrary to what everybody thinks.  I mean who has Moreno fought in his last 5?  4 of them were vs Fig which has questionable cardio and KKF who was looking pretty good before the kick to the body.  I don't think Moreno is as good as the books think he is...  But dunno about you guys, that's just me.

Val Woodburn went in short notice so I'm not really surprised.  No value everywhere but Nickal via KO at 3.05 could hit if you really want to bet on the match.

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From my point of view the UFC 290 will be so far the best UFC event of the year, I don't know why but I have a bad feeling about Moreno, I feel like he will lose the belt this weekend, but maybe it's only a random feeling, and for this event I only have one bet, and that's Yair Rodrigez to win, I catch an earlier x4.5 on that fight, so, let's see if "El pantera" do the magic and make us hit the moon this weekend.

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From my point of view the UFC 290 will be so far the best UFC event of the year, I don't know why but I have a bad feeling about Moreno, I feel like he will lose the belt this weekend, but maybe it's only a random feeling, and for this event I only have one bet, and that's Yair Rodrigez to win, I catch an earlier x4.5 on that fight, so, let's see if "El pantera" do the magic and make us hit the moon this weekend.

It's a long shot, Yair can make it if he can stun Volk in the first round with his high kick and with combo follow-up. Once Volk survives in the next rounds, it may be hard to tell whether Yair can make it. There are others who also see Yair going to win. It's just not easy to see Volkanovski not fight for his way. He has greater motivation here to get a rematch against Islam.

No way I would bet for Nick BO with the current odds. He was compared to Brock Lesnar by Bisping because he is a big guy but can also move fast like a flyweight.


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July 08, 2023, 12:36:00 AM
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From my point of view the UFC 290 will be so far the best UFC event of the year, I don't know why but I have a bad feeling about Moreno, I feel like he will lose the belt this weekend, but maybe it's only a random feeling, and for this event I only have one bet, and that's Yair Rodrigez to win, I catch an earlier x4.5 on that fight, so, let's see if "El pantera" do the magic and make us hit the moon this weekend.

This is obviously a very interesting UFC event. The main event is obviously going to be great. Let’s see if Alexander Volkanovski can actually win. Also interested to see the Robert Whittaker vs Du Plessis fight. The Dan Hooker fight is also going to be interesting. That UFC does look to be interesting after a few days.

I think in the fight of the main event, Alexander Volkanovski is going to be the winner. The fight is obviously going to be really close. But my opinion is that Alexander Volkanovski has a better experience, and also has lost one fight less compared to his opponent. I don’t know if losing one last match is going to matter too much, but the experience is obviously going to have a big role to play.

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Not to hi-jack UFC 290 but Jones vs. Miocic is official! They will headline UFC 295 on Nov. 11

Dana's announcement: https://rumble.com/v2yqvrr-dana-white-announces-jon-jones-vs-stipe-miocic-to-headline-ufc-295.html
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July 08, 2023, 09:46:56 AM
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Not to hi-jack UFC 290 but Jones vs. Miocic is official! They will headline UFC 295 on Nov. 11

Dana's announcement: https://rumble.com/v2yqvrr-dana-white-announces-jon-jones-vs-stipe-miocic-to-headline-ufc-295.html

Okay, this is going to be huge. This is obviously a dream fight for a lot of people to see. Two great fighters fighting against each other for glory. It doesn't get better than this. UFC 290 is still going to be interesting. But a lot more people are going to be interested in the Jones vs Miocic upcoming fight.

(Interesting to see a lot of people moving to Rumble. Probably this is the only platform of free speech after Twitter)

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