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July 30, 2019, 05:30:34 PM
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Interesting, even if barely legible, and ultimately just nonsense.

I spent a bit reading through the guy's tweets and his English isn't as good as Satoshi's. He makes basic grammatical mistakes whereas Satoshi's English was near flawless, indicative of a native speaker.

And then you have these reply tweets from a couple prominent bitcoin developers, regarding the PGP key offered up by Debo:

@orionwl
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FWIW, there are no known messages signed by that key, but it was distributed along with early bitcoin, so it could be satoshi's real key
mind the uncertainty: my signing it was a mistake about how gpg web of trust is supposed to work at the time, and I revoked it later

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I signed it based on circumstantial evidence that I still believe; PGP WoT isn't a strict protocol; use your common sense in interpreting it.

That said, I have no reason to think that the Twitter account @realSatoshiN is really Satoshi Nakamoto.



If somebody with interest in BTC or a supporter holds them but if this is CW nothing more dangerous. We all know that such amount can crash the market, especially if used for this purpose and only half of this stack would be enough.

CSW doesn't have the coins, nor will he ever have them. Its not a real concern.

I really hope, You do not have a degree in math and logic.
If you state something false or nonsense, You have to counter with FACTS and arguments that make sense.
The fact You dislike the claim, does not mean it is false.

It is clear to me, some like You, do prefer to do politics, public relation to undermine my work or
promote their own vision.

You state there are grammatical errors in the tweets @realsatoshin. But You do not quote them.
There are a lot of tweets in that account. As there are at moments typo.

It is pretty normal, someone who speaks not nativily English, makes grammatical errors.
The world is bigger then the USA or the UK.

It is not proven at all, Satoshi Nakamoto 's origin is from a country such as the UK, the USA or Japan.
Do you really think the only inventors are living in the USA, UK or Japan ?

It is known, Hal Finney did share data, communications ... as there was a common use of a mailbox as well.

To state the PGP key is not the right key of Satoshi Nakamoto is not reasonable.
The key was signed by all the people, mentioned in the letter, including Hal Finney and Gavin Andresen.
They key was online on bitcoin.org between 2009-2011, and is known as the genuine key.
That key was also important to vote in the Bitcoin Foundation, because Satoshi Nakamoto
was president of the board and could vote by digital signing.

The letter states, that all mail by Satoshi Nakamoto was signed by the PGP key.
There is not a lot of mail made public. Most mail was between Hal Finney and Satoshi Nakamoto.

The @vistomail mailboxes were shared mailboxes used by developers, including Hal.
Clearly, there was a difference between satoshin@ and satoshi@ also, regardless the @gmx mailboxes.

The white paper was reviewed by an English speaker.

Your response is only a personal opinion and does not provide facts to counter the claim.

I agree. The language used by both this imposter as well as that used by Craig do not match the level of English used by Satoshi.

I looks to me, Your skills in English are even better then mine.

All the Best,

Satoshin

All the Best,

Satoshin.
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July 30, 2019, 05:38:57 PM
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Let's not forget, CSW explicitly claims to be a lawyer, while Satoshi explicitly asserted, "I am not a lawyer".

But I'm sure Craig has an excuse for that, too.
"I said that in order to obfuscate my identity. I wanted to remain anonymous while I was under the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto."

probably something like that, eh?

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July 30, 2019, 05:50:30 PM
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However for someone who claims to be a lawyer you would expect more careful use of language.

Let's not forget, CSW explicitly claims to be a lawyer, while Satoshi explicitly asserted, "I am not a lawyer".

But I'm sure Craig has an excuse for that, too.

Craigs a person who knows about all things, but when you actually see the vast majority of things that he says, the full-of-shitness tends to emanate, especially the longer that he talks.

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July 31, 2019, 10:35:26 AM
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However for someone who claims to be a lawyer you would expect more careful use of language.

Let's not forget, CSW explicitly claims to be a lawyer, while Satoshi explicitly asserted, "I am not a lawyer".

But I'm sure Craig has an excuse for that, too.



He has copyright Common Law.
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July 31, 2019, 11:57:05 AM
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I really hope, You do not have a degree in math and logic.
If you state something false or nonsense, You have to counter with FACTS and arguments that make sense.
The fact You dislike the claim, does not mean it is false.

It is clear to me, some like You, do prefer to do politics, public relation to undermine my work or
promote their own vision.

You state there are grammatical errors in the tweets @realsatoshin. But You do not quote them.
There are a lot of tweets in that account. As there are at moments typo.

Hey, thanks for joining us.

I can perfectly understand that perhaps the white paper was professionally edited and proofread by a native English speaker, but its highly doubtful that every single post on this forum and email he ever sent was as well. Even non-public emails sent to the likes of Gavin Andresen contain perfect or near-perfect English.

Satoshi never capitalized "you" unless it was the first word in a sentence. He also put 2 spaces in between his sentences:

That means a lot coming from you, Hal.  Thanks.

I just pulled up this post as an example, his English is flawless, not one error or anything potentially confusing about it:

Piling every proof-of-work quorum system in the world into one dataset doesn't scale.

Bitcoin and BitDNS can be used separately.  Users shouldn't have to download all of both to use one or the other.  BitDNS users may not want to download everything the next several unrelated networks decide to pile in either.

The networks need to have separate fates.  BitDNS users might be completely liberal about adding any large data features since relatively few domain registrars are needed, while Bitcoin users might get increasingly tyrannical about limiting the size of the chain so it's easy for lots of users and small devices.

Fears about securely buying domains with Bitcoins are a red herring.  It's easy to trade Bitcoins for other non-repudiable commodities.

If you're still worried about it, it's cryptographically possible to make a risk free trade.  The two parties would set up transactions on both sides such that when they both sign the transactions, the second signer's signature triggers the release of both.  The second signer can't release one without releasing the other.

I don't have to point out all of your errors because they are consistent, speak for themselves, and can be independently verified by anybody.

Having said all that, at least we are in agreement that CSW is not Satoshi.

And by the way, you have magnificent hair. I have to admit I'm a bit jealous.

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July 31, 2019, 12:51:22 PM
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However for someone who claims to be a lawyer you would expect more careful use of language.

Let's not forget, CSW explicitly claims to be a lawyer, while Satoshi explicitly asserted, "I am not a lawyer".

But I'm sure Craig has an excuse for that, too.



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July 31, 2019, 02:37:19 PM
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https://decrypt.co/8155/8155

One of his other many cases has been given the boot by a UK court.

This one's because Roger Ver called him a fraud.

I like this passage - 'Wright had failed to provide sufficient evidence of “the global reputation he enjoys and, more particularly, the extent to which it has been damaged. There is no other evidence as to the extent of the Claimant’s reputation in the UK (or elsewhere),”

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https://decrypt.co/8155/8155

One of his other many cases has been given the boot by a UK court.

This one's because Roger Ver called him a fraud.

I like this passage - 'Wright had failed to provide sufficient evidence of “the global reputation he enjoys and, more particularly, the extent to which it has been damaged. There is no other evidence as to the extent of the Claimant’s reputation in the UK (or elsewhere),”

House of cards falling apart.

I just twitted your link to Mc Cormack, he liked it.  Grin Tongue
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https://decrypt.co/8155/8155

One of his other many cases has been given the boot by a UK court.

This one's because Roger Ver called him a fraud.

I like this passage - 'Wright had failed to provide sufficient evidence of “the global reputation he enjoys and, more particularly, the extent to which it has been damaged. There is no other evidence as to the extent of the Claimant’s reputation in the UK (or elsewhere),”

In court documents Wright said:

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Moreover, no one would reasonably enter into business dealings with someone thought to be a fraud.

... which makes me wonder why anybody would buy BSV; perhaps those who do are simply "unreasonable."

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August 01, 2019, 02:27:42 PM
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https://decrypt.co/8155/8155

One of his other many cases has been given the boot by a UK court.

This one's because Roger Ver called him a fraud.

I like this passage - 'Wright had failed to provide sufficient evidence of “the global reputation he enjoys and, more particularly, the extent to which it has been damaged. There is no other evidence as to the extent of the Claimant’s reputation in the UK (or elsewhere),”

In court documents Wright said:

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Moreover, no one would reasonably enter into business dealings with someone thought to be a fraud.

... which makes me wonder why anybody would buy BSV; perhaps those who do are simple "unreasonable."


"Reason dictates that a fork of a fork is the true Bitcoin.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to patent my wheel invention cuz it goes 'round and 'round on the short bus I take to CoinGeek conventions."

Full disclosure: Nobody's the wiser that I edited the above quote five times due to simple grammatical errors, perhaps occurring cuz my first cup of covfefe hadn't kicked in yet or I'm a fuckin idiot on Thursday mornings.

Edit: hasn't is now hadn't.

Edit: Tuesday is now penned on Thursday. Checking for proper usages of comas now.

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August 01, 2019, 05:32:21 PM
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And the hits keep on a comin' ...

Facebook should forget Libra, launch stablecoin on Bitcoin SV


"I need to meditate on this for a sec. Currently, I'm the number-one asshole in the world, but if I team up with crypto's number-one asshole, then together we'll be able to rule the universe."

Oh fuck, this one killed me!



https://decrypt.co/8155/8155

One of his other many cases has been given the boot by a UK court.

This one's because Roger Ver called him a fraud.

I like this passage - 'Wright had failed to provide sufficient evidence of “the global reputation he enjoys and, more particularly, the extent to which it has been damaged. There is no other evidence as to the extent of the Claimant’s reputation in the UK (or elsewhere),”

I especially liked this

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Speaking to Decrypt, Ver hailed victory. “[Wright] had to pay me £60,000 ($73,000) for the legal fees too,” he said.
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Speaking to Decrypt, Ver hailed victory. “[Wright] had to pay me £60,000 ($73,000) for the legal fees too,” he said.
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Welcome to law.

I assume the cases against Hodlonaut and Peter McCormack will end the same way.

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Speaking to Decrypt, Ver hailed victory. “[Wright] had to pay me £60,000 ($73,000) for the legal fees too,” he said.
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I'm amazed Craigy has $730 to his name. I presume tonight he'll have to polish Calvin's Austin Allegro with extra vigour and mow his lawn with them nice stripes this weekend.


Welcome to law.

I assume the cases against Hodlonaut and Peter McCormack will end the same way.

Are they basically of the same premise to this case?


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Speaking to Decrypt, Ver hailed victory. “[Wright] had to pay me £60,000 ($73,000) for the legal fees too,” he said.
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I'm amazed Craigy has $730 to his name. I presume tonight he'll have to polish Calvin's Austin Allegro with extra vigour and mow his lawn with them nice stripes this weekend.


Welcome to law.

I assume the cases against Hodlonaut and Peter McCormack will end the same way.

Are they basically of the same premise to this case?



Yeah, similar cases. Hodlonaut isn't located in the UK, Peter McCormack is.

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Speaking to Decrypt, Ver hailed victory. “[Wright] had to pay me £60,000 ($73,000) for the legal fees too,” he said.
.

I'm amazed Craigy has $730 to his name. I presume tonight he'll have to polish Calvin's Austin Allegro with extra vigour and mow his lawn with them nice stripes this weekend.


Welcome to law.

I assume the cases against Hodlonaut and Peter McCormack will end the same way.

Are they basically of the same premise to this case?





Yeah, similar cases. Hodlonaut isn't located in the UK, Peter McCormack is.

He has no reputation to sustain in his residence country (according to what he said this time because in his BS copyright claim he's a resident in NY), so he has even less reputation to be damaged elsewhere.

He's a clown, only he doesn't know it.
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August 01, 2019, 08:48:24 PM
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Speaking to Decrypt, Ver hailed victory. “[Wright] had to pay me £60,000 ($73,000) for the legal fees too,” he said.
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I'm amazed Craigy has $730 to his name. I presume tonight he'll have to polish Calvin's Austin Allegro with extra vigour and mow his lawn with them nice stripes this weekend.


Welcome to law.

I assume the cases against Hodlonaut and Peter McCormack will end the same way.

Are they basically of the same premise to this case?



Yeah, similar cases. Hodlonaut isn't located in the UK, Peter McCormack is.

So Peter McCormack can use this as precedent and the no harm to rep should stand up for Hodlonaut as CSW cannot prove he has any rep worthy of defense. Smiley

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Arthur van Pelt (@MyLegacyKit) posts today that CSW claims to be able and plans to crash BCH and BTC in 2021:


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Speaking to Decrypt, Ver hailed victory. “[Wright] had to pay me £60,000 ($73,000) for the legal fees too,” he said.
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I'm amazed Craigy has $730 to his name. I presume tonight he'll have to polish Calvin's Austin Allegro with extra vigour and mow his lawn with them nice stripes this weekend.


Welcome to law.

I assume the cases against Hodlonaut and Peter McCormack will end the same way.

Are they basically of the same premise to this case?



Yeah, similar cases. Hodlonaut isn't located in the UK, Peter McCormack is.

He has no reputation to sustain in his residence country (according to what he said this time because in his BS copyright claim he's a resident in NY), so he has even less reputation to be damaged elsewhere.

He's a clown, only he doesn't know it.

Or maybe he knows it but pretend not knowing it for the sake of publicity.  Grin He is like banking on his media's presence to get value for this coin but in reality, there's nothing in it. I wonder how long naive people will support this project.  Roll Eyes

 
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This fucker needs to exit the gene pool before his wife, Ramona Watts, starts getting ideas in her head that she wants to hear the pitter-patter of little Satoshis around her home.

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This fucker needs to exit the gene pool before his wife, Ramona Watts, starts getting ideas in her head that she wants to hear the pitter-patter of little Satoshis around her home.

I am truly staggered that anyone would want to let him line their uterus with his filthy, teeming sperm let alone get hitched in a legally binding manner. Just goes to show there's someone for everyone, even him.

In other news his wee hobby appears to be forking in all sorts of directions - https://twitter.com/BitMEXResearch/status/1157684825572151298

A 210mb block messed with those non $20,000 nodes.

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