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August 27, 2021, 09:56:16 AM
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Title contenders for sure of course, but Europa League? They are in Champions League this season:)

I would not call Manchester United a strong team because their midfield is fragile, and their right back position is weak so mark my words Manchester United season won’t be as strong as you’ll think. However if they manage to buy a holding midfielder and buy a better right back player then only I’ll call them a strong team.

What ? Midfield fragile ? With Pogba , Bruno , Mctominay , Mata ? Are you kidding us ? This is one of the strongest midfield in EPL right now because Bruno was already in a great form but with pogba being near it's peak , it's almost impossible to not admit this team as a great one for this year. Yea maybe they miss a player here and there , but every team has this problems. I'm willing to take a bet that United will finish top 2 in EPL.

Exactly what I was thinking too Juggy,,, are you kidding about the midfield? I believe if you look at the whole EPL they have the strongest midfield there by a long distance and we are not even putting in the failed wonderkid Donny vd Beek. Right Back is it not also Wan Bissaka who is one of the best in his position? Bruno was by most standards the best midfielder last season and Pogba well,,, he used to be the best in Italy but maybe now with 4 assists in his first game he will recover.
I think Manchester United have a pretty solid and strong midfield and Manchester United still have Fred and Nemanja Matic as back-ups in that sector which I think all Manchester United midfield players are arguably the strongest in the EPL.
and the presence of Paul Pogba, Bruno Fernandes and Scott McTominay have made Manchester United's midfield very solid and if anyone says Manchester United's line is weak or bad, it seems that there is something wrong with their assessment.

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August 27, 2021, 10:46:22 AM
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August 27, 2021, 11:01:38 AM
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in these minutes the groups in this year's uefa europa league have been drawn:

I think we don't have groups that are neither too strong nor too weak. Each has one or two teams that will certainly pass the next phase without much difficulty.

Maybe it's in Group E, that we're going to see a close fight to be first.

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August 27, 2021, 11:27:10 AM
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in these minutes the groups in this year's uefa europa league have been drawn:

I think we don't have groups that are neither too strong nor too weak. Each has one or two teams that will certainly pass the next phase without much difficulty.

Maybe it's in Group E, that we're going to see a close fight to be first.

Well i think Group C and Group E are really difficult. Also i think most of the other groups are either evenly matched or are too easy for some teams. But the europe league looks much much stronger this year then before

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August 27, 2021, 11:44:38 AM
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But the europe league looks much much stronger this year then before

Probably the reason, for this year we will see better and more balanced teams, is because many weaker clubs ended up going to the UEFA Europa Conference League.

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August 27, 2021, 06:14:35 PM
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in these minutes the groups in this year's uefa europa league have been drawn:

I think we don't have groups that are neither too strong nor too weak. Each has one or two teams that will certainly pass the next phase without much difficulty.

Maybe it's in Group E, that we're going to see a close fight to be first.

Well i think Group C and Group E are really difficult. Also i think most of the other groups are either evenly matched or are too easy for some teams. But the europe league looks much much stronger this year then before

I am not so sure about that. You really only have a handful of very strong teams. From what I can tell, this year isn't necessarily stronger than last year's teams. Last year there was Roma, Arsenal, Leverkusen, Benfica Lissabon, Napoli, Leicester, AC Milan, Villareal, Tottenham, Hoffenheim. That sounds much stronger to me than this year.

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August 27, 2021, 08:16:46 PM
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I am not so sure about that. You really only have a handful of very strong teams. From what I can tell, this year isn't necessarily stronger than last year's teams. Last year there was Roma, Arsenal, Leverkusen, Benfica Lissabon, Napoli, Leicester, AC Milan, Villareal, Tottenham, Hoffenheim. That sounds much stronger to me than this year.
I do not really think that we have a much much stronger europa league this season, last season's teams playing versus this year's teams would have been a clear winner for last year if you ask me. Europa is usually filled with like 4-5 good teams, and then the rest is just there to fill the games and that's it. I get that it is still making a lot of money for the clubs but it is really not a big deal to many big clubs who do not end up winning it all.

If I am West Ham, I want to either win the whole thing, or I should not give a damn at all, save the fatigue the players will have, and you can't know beforehand so you play the players a lot, and then they get tired and if you lose, you already lost some points because your players were tired and you still didn't get anything. Champions league is a whole different level, it is not even close to each other.

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August 27, 2021, 08:20:27 PM
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While looking at the draw results, I saw that one of the Turkish teams, Galatasaray had a really unfortunate draw. Lazio, Marseille and Lokomotiv Moscow are their opponents in the group. This is really like a Champions League group to be honest. Galatasaray will have a really big difficulty in promoting to the next round. Lazio and Marseille are the toughest ones in this group.

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August 27, 2021, 08:44:29 PM
 #2329

in these minutes the groups in this year's uefa europa league have been drawn:

I think we don't have groups that are neither too strong nor too weak. Each has one or two teams that will certainly pass the next phase without much difficulty.

Maybe it's in Group E, that we're going to see a close fight to be first.

Well i think Group C and Group E are really difficult. Also i think most of the other groups are either evenly matched or are too easy for some teams. But the europe league looks much much stronger this year then before
What's wrong with Group C? Napoli and Leicester will go on. Legia play so-so, average, Spartak even worse. Although I'll probably even go to the Spartak vs Leicester match, because I've been a Leicester fan for eight years or more, and the game takes place in my home country, but I'm sure that neither Spartak nor Legia will be able to compete with Napoli and Leicester. So I don't know what your doubts are about this group... Huh

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August 28, 2021, 09:04:26 AM
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I think we don't have groups that are neither too strong nor too weak. Each has one or two teams that will certainly pass the next phase without much difficulty.

Maybe it's in Group E, that we're going to see a close fight to be first.

I agree, we can predict the teams that can go to the next round. It looks like we will watch a contentious struggle in only 2 or 3 groups. The matches of Group E and Group H can be more exciting than other groups.
We can watch good matches in Napoli's group as well. But the leaders of other groups are known. Maybe we'll see one or two surprise teams, I don't think there will be more Smiley

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August 28, 2021, 11:11:41 AM
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I think we don't have groups that are neither too strong nor too weak. Each has one or two teams that will certainly pass the next phase without much difficulty.

Maybe it's in Group E, that we're going to see a close fight to be first.

The situation is almost the same as in the Champions League - that is why there is little point in watching this stage of the competition. Although I should note that here the level of the participants is more even, and the favorites have less motivation, so the results are likely to be more random.

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August 28, 2021, 11:40:47 AM
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While looking at the draw results, I saw that one of the Turkish teams, Galatasaray had a really unfortunate draw. Lazio, Marseille and Lokomotiv Moscow are their opponents in the group. This is really like a Champions League group to be honest. Galatasaray will have a really big difficulty in promoting to the next round. Lazio and Marseille are the toughest ones in this group.

Indeed. This group looks like an old UCL group from the 2005-07 era.


I would say that Lazio and Marseille have the first chance but Galata made some really great transfers lately as they took the best players from Romanian league and a few others from another countries so don't expect Gatala to be happy with 3rd place. Personally, I would choose Galata and Lazio to move over the group stage.

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August 28, 2021, 11:53:40 AM
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I think group E and group H are teams that are at least in the same level or at least not much different, if in other groups have 1 to 2 dark horse teams but in these 2 groups E and H in my view there are no dark horses. But yeah, maybe it's not something important and not a benchmark because basically, when a team has qualified and entered this stage at least they are great teams who are very likely to make a lot of surprises later. But if I can predict which team will advance to the Finals, I think West Ham deserves to be considered this season.

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August 28, 2021, 01:17:37 PM
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Group H is also very interesting.
It seems to me that the first favorite in that group is the English club West Ham, and Genk and Dinamo will probably fight for the second place.
I believe Rapid has no chance in this group.
Group F with Crvena Zvezda, Ludogorets, Braga and Midtjylland will also be quite interesting. The obvious favorite in this group is Braga, and Crvena ZVezda and Ludogorets should fight for second place.
What do you think?

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August 29, 2021, 10:29:14 AM
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Group H is also very interesting.
It seems to me that the first favorite in that group is the English club West Ham, and Genk and Dinamo will probably fight for the second place.
I believe Rapid has no chance in this group.
Group F with Crvena Zvezda, Ludogorets, Braga and Midtjylland will also be quite interesting. The obvious favorite in this group is Braga, and Crvena ZVezda and Ludogorets should fight for second place.
What do you think?

In fact, there will be interesting matches in almost every group, the problem is that none of them has any epic confrontation (like Real Madrid - Barcelona) and because of this these matches will be interesting only to fans of the teams participating in them. And one more factor reduces the level of rivalry - some large teams (for example, before it was Manchester United), getting into the Europa League, treat it as an "extra" tournament and do not play there seriously. I am sure there will be such teams this year as well.

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August 29, 2021, 10:45:01 AM
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Group H is also very interesting.
It seems to me that the first favorite in that group is the English club West Ham, and Genk and Dinamo will probably fight for the second place.
I believe Rapid has no chance in this group.
Group F with Crvena Zvezda, Ludogorets, Braga and Midtjylland will also be quite interesting. The obvious favorite in this group is Braga, and Crvena ZVezda and Ludogorets should fight for second place.
What do you think?

In fact, there will be interesting matches in almost every group, the problem is that none of them has any epic confrontation (like Real Madrid - Barcelona) and because of this these matches will be interesting only to fans of the teams participating in them. And one more factor reduces the level of rivalry - some large teams (for example, before it was Manchester United), getting into the Europa League, treat it as an "extra" tournament and do not play there seriously. I am sure there will be such teams this year as well.

Unfortunately, I have to agree with you.
Given that the number of places in the Champions League is limited, some clubs must be satisfied with this competition as a consolation prize.
However, if any English club gets the opportunity to win the biggest prize through this competition, a place in the Champions League next season, then they will take this competition seriously, especially if they lose the chance to win a place in the Champions League through the national championship.
For example, I don't believe that West Ham will be able to win a place in the Champions League through the national championship, so they will probably take this competition much more seriously.

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August 29, 2021, 10:55:22 AM
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In fact, there will be interesting matches in almost every group, the problem is that none of them has any epic confrontation (like Real Madrid - Barcelona) and because of this these matches will be interesting only to fans of the teams participating in them. And one more factor reduces the level of rivalry - some large teams (for example, before it was Manchester United), getting into the Europa League, treat it as an "extra" tournament and do not play there seriously. I am sure there will be such teams this year as well.

Unfortunately, I have to agree with you.
Given that the number of places in the Champions League is limited, some clubs must be satisfied with this competition as a consolation prize.
However, if any English club gets the opportunity to win the biggest prize through this competition, a place in the Champions League next season, then they will take this competition seriously, especially if they lose the chance to win a place in the Champions League through the national championship.
For example, I don't believe that West Ham will be able to win a place in the Champions League through the national championship, so they will probably take this competition much more seriously.

Yes, undoubtedly some clubs will be interested in winning this tournament, but it seems to me that most of the tops (like Napoli, Monaco or Leverkusen) will make the main bet on the national championship and in this tournament they will play either with the second squad or in training mode (especially with considering that the opponents are not so serious here).

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August 31, 2021, 09:34:54 AM
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In fact, there will be interesting matches in almost every group, the problem is that none of them has any epic confrontation (like Real Madrid - Barcelona) and because of this these matches will be interesting only to fans of the teams participating in them. And one more factor reduces the level of rivalry - some large teams (for example, before it was Manchester United), getting into the Europa League, treat it as an "extra" tournament and do not play there seriously. I am sure there will be such teams this year as well.
Unfortunately, I have to agree with you.
Given that the number of places in the Champions League is limited, some clubs must be satisfied with this competition as a consolation prize.
However, if any English club gets the opportunity to win the biggest prize through this competition, a place in the Champions League next season, then they will take this competition seriously, especially if they lose the chance to win a place in the Champions League through the national championship.
For example, I don't believe that West Ham will be able to win a place in the Champions League through the national championship, so they will probably take this competition much more seriously.
Yes, undoubtedly some clubs will be interested in winning this tournament, but it seems to me that most of the tops (like Napoli, Monaco or Leverkusen) will make the main bet on the national championship and in this tournament they will play either with the second squad or in training mode (especially with considering that the opponents are not so serious here).

The Monaco team could not qualify for the Champions League. So their goal this season will be to do something good in the Europa League. Leverkusen on the other hand is a good enough team. On the other hand, Napoli and Leichester are stable teams. There are many good teams. If you want to win the title, you must have a stable performance.

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August 31, 2021, 10:22:43 AM
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In fact, there will be interesting matches in almost every group, the problem is that none of them has any epic confrontation (like Real Madrid - Barcelona) and because of this these matches will be interesting only to fans of the teams participating in them. And one more factor reduces the level of rivalry - some large teams (for example, before it was Manchester United), getting into the Europa League, treat it as an "extra" tournament and do not play there seriously. I am sure there will be such teams this year as well.
Unfortunately, I have to agree with you.
Given that the number of places in the Champions League is limited, some clubs must be satisfied with this competition as a consolation prize.
However, if any English club gets the opportunity to win the biggest prize through this competition, a place in the Champions League next season, then they will take this competition seriously, especially if they lose the chance to win a place in the Champions League through the national championship.
For example, I don't believe that West Ham will be able to win a place in the Champions League through the national championship, so they will probably take this competition much more seriously.
Yes, undoubtedly some clubs will be interested in winning this tournament, but it seems to me that most of the tops (like Napoli, Monaco or Leverkusen) will make the main bet on the national championship and in this tournament they will play either with the second squad or in training mode (especially with considering that the opponents are not so serious here).

The Monaco team could not qualify for the Champions League. So their goal this season will be to do something good in the Europa League. Leverkusen on the other hand is a good enough team. On the other hand, Napoli and Leichester are stable teams. There are many good teams. If you want to win the title, you must have a stable performance.

Honestly Monaco will have a lot of troubles in the group stage of Europe league. With both Real Sociedad and PSV it will be extremly hard for them to go into the next stage. Leverkusen on the other hand has amazing chances of going to the next stage with their group not really hard but not easy as well.

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Honestly Monaco will have a lot of troubles in the group stage of Europe league. With both Real Sociedad and PSV it will be extremly hard for them to go into the next stage. Leverkusen on the other hand has amazing chances of going to the next stage with their group not really hard but not easy as well.

It will be really difficult for Monaco to cross the group stage and go to the next round. PSV and Real Sociedad are good teams. However, Monaco is not a weak team. They often perform better than expected. But it will be difficult to predict which team will qualify to the next round.

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