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Chelsea couldn't have wont the cup without determination however manchester United is lacking in that aspect.
Even though I was very confident with the MU squad at that time. They have players above Villarreal so I am very sure that they will win. But it's true what you say, United don't have the same fighting spirit, determination as Villareal. They underestimate the opponent too much before playing. MU management seems to have to evaluate Solskejaer immediately. I think the main requirements from Solskjaer will be this season. I think the main requirements from Solskjaer will be this season. Manchester United, with its ambition and history, needs titles, not just places in the finals or qualifying for the Champions League. The pressure will increase and if now the fans of Manchester United were happy that the team at least claims something, then as they say, the appetite comes with eating. Villarreal is writing its club history in front of us and it turned out that the players did everything impossible for this plus Emery, who has already accumulated a decent experience of winning the Europa League in different conditions.
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I like watching both, but for me personally Messi is another level. There is this interview, I believe with Ibrahimovic, and he says, Ronaldo is the best on planet earth, and then there is Messi. I agree, Messi is just different. His free kick statistic alone is unbelievable.
This will be the eternal debate, which of the two is better. Both players have different characteristics. One has certain abilities that the other doesn't. What defines, season by season, who is the best, will be the performance they had together with their teams. I think we have to be happy that we have the opportunity to see the two best players in the world at the same time playing.
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I like watching both, but for me personally Messi is another level. There is this interview, I believe with Ibrahimovic, and he says, Ronaldo is the best on planet earth, and then there is Messi. I agree, Messi is just different. His free kick statistic alone is unbelievable.
This will be the eternal debate, which of the two is better. Both players have different characteristics. One has certain abilities that the other doesn't. What defines, season by season, who is the best, will be the performance they had together with their teams. I think we have to be happy that we have the opportunity to see the two best players in the world at the same time playing. Messi is by far better in dribblings, by far better in free kicks, by far better in servicing his team mates putting them into the best position possible to score, Messi is by far better in 1:1, even in 1:7. When he gets the ball he just runs across the whole pitch and still scores. Ronaldo is by far better at headers, but that's not all too surprising given how tall Messi is. I wonder what Ronaldo would have done if Juventus would have played Europa League next season. I don't think he would have stayed in Turin.
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I like watching both, but for me personally Messi is another level. There is this interview, I believe with Ibrahimovic, and he says, Ronaldo is the best on planet earth, and then there is Messi. I agree, Messi is just different. His free kick statistic alone is unbelievable.
This will be the eternal debate, which of the two is better. Both players have different characteristics. One has certain abilities that the other doesn't. What defines, season by season, who is the best, will be the performance they had together with their teams. I think we have to be happy that we have the opportunity to see the two best players in the world at the same time playing. Messi is by far better in dribblings, by far better in free kicks, by far better in servicing his team mates putting them into the best position possible to score, Messi is by far better in 1:1, even in 1:7. When he gets the ball he just runs across the whole pitch and still scores. Ronaldo is by far better at headers, but that's not all too surprising given how tall Messi is. I wonder what Ronaldo would have done if Juventus would have played Europa League next season. I don't think he would have stayed in Turin. @mv1986 I think both are equally great because each one of them have achieved records which may never be broken, and both did whatever it took to win games on their own. However there’s one key difference between them, as Ronaldo went to different clubs and won, and Messi stayed at one club only and hence the world will say Ronaldo is more better than Messi.
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I like watching both, but for me personally Messi is another level. There is this interview, I believe with Ibrahimovic, and he says, Ronaldo is the best on planet earth, and then there is Messi. I agree, Messi is just different. His free kick statistic alone is unbelievable.
This will be the eternal debate, which of the two is better. Both players have different characteristics. One has certain abilities that the other doesn't. What defines, season by season, who is the best, will be the performance they had together with their teams. I think we have to be happy that we have the opportunity to see the two best players in the world at the same time playing. Messi is by far better in dribblings, by far better in free kicks, by far better in servicing his team mates putting them into the best position possible to score, Messi is by far better in 1:1, even in 1:7. When he gets the ball he just runs across the whole pitch and still scores. Ronaldo is by far better at headers, but that's not all too surprising given how tall Messi is. I wonder what Ronaldo would have done if Juventus would have played Europa League next season. I don't think he would have stayed in Turin. @mv1986 I think both are equally great because each one of them have achieved records which may never be broken, and both did whatever it took to win games on their own. However there’s one key difference between them, as Ronaldo went to different clubs and won, and Messi stayed at one club only and hence the world will say Ronaldo is more better than Messi. Who is the best of these two can never be determined. The player you like to watch will be the best for you. Ronaldo does not have the skills that Messi has in dribbling. Again, like Ronaldo, Messi has yet to score from a bicycle kick. I would say the two players are the best, in different sectors.
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@mv1986 I think both are equally great because each one of them have achieved records which may never be broken, and both did whatever it took to win games on their own. However there’s one key difference between them, as Ronaldo went to different clubs and won, and Messi stayed at one club only and hence the world will say Ronaldo is more better than Messi. I agree that this factor is fundamental to define who will be better between the two. If Messi doesn't play for another club, he will always be at a disadvantage. Because he only played for Barcelona and for the National Team We already know how he plays for Barcelona, a team built with him in mind. But how will he be playing on other teams? In the national team he rarely has great performances, and he still hasn't managed to win any competition.
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@mv1986 I think both are equally great because each one of them have achieved records which may never be broken, and both did whatever it took to win games on their own. However there’s one key difference between them, as Ronaldo went to different clubs and won, and Messi stayed at one club only and hence the world will say Ronaldo is more better than Messi. I agree that this factor is fundamental to define who will be better between the two. If Messi doesn't play for another club, he will always be at a disadvantage. Because he only played for Barcelona and for the National Team We already know how he plays for Barcelona, a team built with him in mind. But how will he be playing on other teams? In the national team he rarely has great performances, and he still hasn't managed to win any competition. Basically, star players or top players will not achieve high achievements without support, even though Ronaldo changes clubs but the fact is that Ronaldo does not always win and still finds it difficult to continue to be a winner. This proves, top players will not guarantee an easy victory and therefore, something that allows him to achieve victory with many achievements is the long-standing cohesiveness of the team.
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@mv1986 I think both are equally great because each one of them have achieved records which may never be broken, and both did whatever it took to win games on their own. However there’s one key difference between them, as Ronaldo went to different clubs and won, and Messi stayed at one club only and hence the world will say Ronaldo is more better than Messi. I agree that this factor is fundamental to define who will be better between the two. If Messi doesn't play for another club, he will always be at a disadvantage. Because he only played for Barcelona and for the National Team We already know how he plays for Barcelona, a team built with him in mind. But how will he be playing on other teams? In the national team he rarely has great performances, and he still hasn't managed to win any competition. Basically, star players or top players will not achieve high achievements without support, even though Ronaldo changes clubs but the fact is that Ronaldo does not always win and still finds it difficult to continue to be a winner. This proves, top players will not guarantee an easy victory and therefore, something that allows him to achieve victory with many achievements is the long-standing cohesiveness of the team. It is foolish to rely solely on a star player to win a team. A team consists of 11 players. If every player can perform well from his place, then the team can win or perform as expected. If a team relies on a particular player, the team's performance gradually deteriorates.
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@mv1986 I think both are equally great because each one of them have achieved records which may never be broken, and both did whatever it took to win games on their own. However there’s one key difference between them, as Ronaldo went to different clubs and won, and Messi stayed at one club only and hence the world will say Ronaldo is more better than Messi. I agree that this factor is fundamental to define who will be better between the two. If Messi doesn't play for another club, he will always be at a disadvantage. Because he only played for Barcelona and for the National Team We already know how he plays for Barcelona, a team built with him in mind. But how will he be playing on other teams? In the national team he rarely has great performances, and he still hasn't managed to win any competition. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I love dribblings without much nonsense, like dancing on the ball and stuff. Messi is very plain and simple, yet the best dribbler in the world. Show me one player who frequently goes 1 against 5 and wins. I mean really frequently. Same for free kicks: Ronaldo does his show, spreads his legs and shows he has big balls and then? Hits the wall! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Messi one yard back, two steps, goal! No matter what the distance is to the goal. As for the bicycle kick: please check Youtube!
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On the issue of Ronaldo and Messi, I think its more of a personal thing. I would stick with Ronaldo anytime any day because for me, he is a that vitality player. The one player that shines through all seasons and across leagues. He tests himself and overcomes his huddles. Thats who Ronaldo is and what a great player should look like. They are both great players for sure and I don't see any set or two players like them in the football field even for the next decade. They've both succeeded in raising the quota for what a good or best player should look like but Ronaldo remains the guy for me.
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On the issue of Ronaldo and Messi, I think its more of a personal thing. I would stick with Ronaldo anytime any day because for me, he is a that vitality player. The one player that shines through all seasons and across leagues. He tests himself and overcomes his huddles. Thats who Ronaldo is and what a great player should look like. They are both great players for sure and I don't see any set or two players like them in the football field even for the next decade. They've both succeeded in raising the quota for what a good or best player should look like but Ronaldo remains the guy for me.
I've stopped arguing on who is the best between the two word best. The two have different playing style, body and are unique in their own ways. I will go for CR7 but that doesn't mean he's the best. I just love his fighting spirit and the ability to perform individually irrespective of the squad
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On the issue of Ronaldo and Messi, I think its more of a personal thing. I would stick with Ronaldo anytime any day because for me, he is a that vitality player. The one player that shines through all seasons and across leagues. He tests himself and overcomes his huddles. Thats who Ronaldo is and what a great player should look like. They are both great players for sure and I don't see any set or two players like them in the football field even for the next decade. They've both succeeded in raising the quota for what a good or best player should look like but Ronaldo remains the guy for me.
I've stopped arguing on who is the best between the two word best. The two have different playing style, body and are unique in their own ways. I will go for CR7 but that doesn't mean he's the best. I just love his fighting spirit and the ability to perform individually irrespective of the squad Stop arguing about who is better, Ronaldo or Messi. In my opinion, these two are the best. The playstyle of both is different. The two are best in different cases. Ronaldo can't do such great dribbling as Messi. Again, Messi does not have great fitness and speed like Ronaldo.
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On the issue of Ronaldo and Messi, I think its more of a personal thing. I would stick with Ronaldo anytime any day because for me, he is a that vitality player. The one player that shines through all seasons and across leagues. He tests himself and overcomes his huddles. Thats who Ronaldo is and what a great player should look like. They are both great players for sure and I don't see any set or two players like them in the football field even for the next decade. They've both succeeded in raising the quota for what a good or best player should look like but Ronaldo remains the guy for me.
I've stopped arguing on who is the best between the two word best. The two have different playing style, body and are unique in their own ways. I will go for CR7 but that doesn't mean he's the best. I just love his fighting spirit and the ability to perform individually irrespective of the squad Stop arguing about who is better, Ronaldo or Messi. In my opinion, these two are the best. The playstyle of both is different. The two are best in different cases. Ronaldo can't do such great dribbling as Messi. Again, Messi does not have great fitness and speed like Ronaldo. I was just shocked when I checked numbers for top speeds that Ronaldo is at 33.6 km/h while Davies from Bayern Munich is at 35.6 km/h. I mean Ronaldo also looks incredibly fast, but that is quite the significant difference. Just how fast is Davies, damn it! On a funny side note: Usain Bolt's top speed is 44.72 km/h, LOL!
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I was just shocked when I checked numbers for top speeds that Ronaldo is at 33.6 km/h while Davies from Bayern Munich is at 35.6 km/h. I mean Ronaldo also looks incredibly fast, but that is quite the significant difference. Just how fast is Davies, damn it! On a funny side note: Usain Bolt's top speed is 44.72 km/h, LOL! I don't know which running route this refers to? Usain Bolt's speed is based on 100m. He runs 100m once and then that’s it. Football players run around 10km per game. So they cannot compared to each other. But it's nice to have the numbers.
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I was just shocked when I checked numbers for top speeds that Ronaldo is at 33.6 km/h while Davies from Bayern Munich is at 35.6 km/h. I mean Ronaldo also looks incredibly fast, but that is quite the significant difference. Just how fast is Davies, damn it! On a funny side note: Usain Bolt's top speed is 44.72 km/h, LOL! I don't know which running route this refers to? Usain Bolt's speed is based on 100m. He runs 100m once and then that’s it. Football players run around 10km per game. So they cannot compared to each other. But it's nice to have the numbers. @bct_ail indeed you’re right as Ronaldo and Bolt can’t be compared, but I have to admit those are insane stats for Ronaldo. Also is he able to achieve these stats for this season too, or these are cumulative stats pulled from each of his previous season?.
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@bct_ail indeed you’re right as Ronaldo and Bolt can’t be compared, but I have to admit those are insane stats for Ronaldo. Also is he able to achieve these stats for this season too, or these are cumulative stats pulled from each of his previous season?.
They play different sports and basically, it is not fair to compare an athletic who simply runs at his fastest pace without barrier, opponent or exhaustion time before with the football player who has different other things to do than simply racing. I don't know which running route this refers to? Usain Bolt's speed is based on 100m. He runs 100m once and then that’s it. Football players run around 10km per game. So they cannot compared to each other. But it's nice to have the numbers.
I recall that years ago, Ronaldo hired Usain Bolt to teach him to run as best as possible. In the time Ronaldo still played for Manchester United.
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June 22, 2021, 10:51:22 AM |
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Let's talk about the Czech against England. Both teams only need a draw to qualify for the Round of 16 but I think the match between the Czechs and England will be filled with high tension. This match is allegedly going to be exciting because both teams will definitely aim for full points to secure their place in the round of 16.
England has a slight advantage as they will be playing at home (Wembley Stadium, London) but that doesn't mean they will be able to win easily against the Czechs. I think the match will end in a draw or England beat the Czech with a narrow win.
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June 22, 2021, 11:10:10 AM |
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They play different sports and basically, it is not fair to compare an athletic who simply runs at his fastest pace without barrier, opponent or exhaustion time before with the football player who has different other things to do than simply racing.
Between running by dribbling the ball or running on the track is a different thing in my opinion, in this case besides having to run fast, of course Ronaldo must also concentrate on the ball and it's different from what was done by Usain Bolt who only focused on running as fast as possible ;DHowever, from some existing data it shows that Ronaldo can be as fast as Bolt and that has been acknowledged by after Bolt himself in several interviews in the media. Bolt currently has a world record of 9.58 seconds for the 100 meter run, and this record was obtained at the World Athletics Championships in Berlin in 2009 and so far no runner has been able to break it. while Ronaldo has a record of running 10 seconds for a distance of 92 meters at a speed of 33.12 km / h when Juventus against Napoli in September 2019. So, in my opinion, these two athletes have speeds above the average in their respective fields compared to other athletes.
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June 22, 2021, 01:40:47 PM |
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Let's talk about the Czech against England. Both teams only need a draw to qualify for the Round of 16 but I think the match between the Czechs and England will be filled with high tension. This match is allegedly going to be exciting because both teams will definitely aim for full points to secure their place in the round of 16.
England has a slight advantage as they will be playing at home (Wembley Stadium, London) but that doesn't mean they will be able to win easily against the Czechs. I think the match will end in a draw or England beat the Czech with a narrow win.
Sorry friends but this thread seems to be for european league discussion. Between clubs, not between countries. Maybe the title is almost the same UEFA EURO 2020 Discussion Thread | Current Phase: Finals in June 2021! and UEFA Europa League Discussion This is a discussion of the european league . ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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