⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[nelson4lov]

Barcelona oh Barcelona, ​​0 goals in 2 match that ended in defeat in the group stage is a very sad slap for them. Honestly I really want them to go through to the next stage, but their poor performance in the last 2 games make no sense. None of the attackers the team has scored and they have conceded 6 goals. No longer great with the existing composition of players or R. Koeman should be fired? I agree with the second option, but it becomes impossible due to very bad financial condition and it looks like they have to accept the offer of fresh funds from the dubai company this time.

It's sad to see how the high and mighty have fallen over the years. The team has basically fallen apart. Frontline and backslide did very little in that Benfica to aid the team. The way I see it, Koeman isn't even the only problem that Barcelona has to fix. It runs deeper than that. They might not make it out of this group if they don't start winning games from their 3rd group stage match.

[AndySt]

Manchester United barely got a win against Villarreal by 2-1 thanks to Ronaldo's last minute goal. And they even won by making a comeback from 1-0 behind. All people know that they have been having big problems for some weeks. We saw that in this game also. Maybe they beat Villarreal here. But their games against Atalanta might not end like this. Atalanta are one of the good teams in this season. And they are the leader in the group also. Manchester United must work hard to start playing like they were playing before the recent poor form.

While the game of Manchester United as a team is not very impressive, unlike the results of Ronaldo, who continues to score in almost every match, but it is well known that even the game of such masters as Ronaldo should be supported by a strong game of the rest of the team as a team. On the other hand, the signing of the contract with Ronaldo took place at the very last moment and looked like a kind of impromptu reaction to the plans of competitors from City, and therefore it must be borne in mind that the structure of United's team game has recently been formed without his participation with an emphasis on other players and it definitely takes some time to reconfigure the mechanism.

[Lordhermes]

Manchester United barely got a win against Villarreal by 2-1 thanks to Ronaldo's last minute goal. And they even won by making a comeback from 1-0 behind. All people know that they have been having big problems for some weeks. We saw that in this game also. Maybe they beat Villarreal here. But their games against Atalanta might not end like this. Atalanta are one of the good teams in this season. And they are the leader in the group also. Manchester United must work hard to start playing like they were playing before the recent poor form.

While the game of Manchester United as a team is not very impressive, unlike the results of Ronaldo, who continues to score in almost every match, but it is well known that even the game of such masters as Ronaldo should be supported by a strong game of the rest of the team as a team. On the other hand, the signing of the contract with Ronaldo took place at the very last moment and looked like a kind of impromptu reaction to the plans of competitors from City, and therefore it must be borne in mind that the structure of United's team game has recently been formed without his participation with an emphasis on other players and it definitely takes some time to reconfigure the mechanism.

As it stands now,Ronaldo is the key behind Manchester United's success now.Most of the games they win,he decides the winning for them with his goal contribution,and no doubt,he is taking Manchester United to a greater heights.I am not saying they will be able to win the league,but they might finish at second or third on the table.Man-u has a very great team that is capable of winning the champions league now,but I don't know if Ole is really capable of doing that or not,but I don't think so because he has not really proved so since he joined club.

[Luzin]

As it stands now,Ronaldo is the key behind Manchester United's success now.Most of the games they win,he decides the winning for them with his goal contribution,and no doubt,he is taking Manchester United to a greater heights.

It's true they have a very good squad, in fact he didn't even give a chance to the player they had just bought. I'm a Manchester United fan for the Premier League, but this time I have my doubts about them. Indeed, the chance to qualify for the next kbabk is still great. But if you look at their game, it's really bad. Against Villareal yesterday I was a little worried about their defence. They are very easily penetrated in defense on the counter-attack. Luckily they were able to make a goal, after falling behind 0-1. I think if it wasn't for De Gea they would have conceded more goals yesterday.

[hahay]

Barcelona oh Barcelona, ​​0 goals in 2 match that ended in defeat in the group stage is a very sad slap for them. Honestly I really want them to go through to the next stage, but their poor performance in the last 2 games make no sense. None of the attackers the team has scored and they have conceded 6 goals. No longer great with the existing composition of players or R. Koeman should be fired? I agree with the second option, but it becomes impossible due to very bad financial condition and it looks like they have to accept the offer of fresh funds from the dubai company this time.

It's sad to see how the high and mighty have fallen over the years. The team has basically fallen apart. Frontline and backslide did very little in that Benfica to aid the team. The way I see it, Koeman isn't even the only problem that Barcelona has to fix. It runs deeper than that. They might not make it out of this group if they don't start winning games from their 3rd group stage match.

I personally am the one who disagrees with Koeman's decision, because upon his arrival at Barcelona Koeman immediately sacked Suarez and I think it was a ridiculous decision. And again, the financial crisis due to the pandemic made it even more devastating, because if Suarez is still in the squad at least Barcelona still has a chance to improve management with achievements that can be achieved. Now, there is no hope for Barcelona to get the title in all competitions because Barcelona have to start again from scratch and it is not easy.

[abhiseshakana]

As it stands now,Ronaldo is the key behind Manchester United's success now.Most of the games they win,he decides the winning for them with his goal contribution,and no doubt,he is taking Manchester United to a greater heights.

It's true they have a very good squad, in fact he didn't even give a chance to the player they had just bought. I'm a Manchester United fan for the Premier League, but this time I have my doubts about them. Indeed, the chance to qualify for the next kbabk is still great. But if you look at their game, it's really bad. Against Villareal yesterday I was a little worried about their defence. They are very easily penetrated in defense on the counter-attack. Luckily they were able to make a goal, after falling behind 0-1. I think if it wasn't for De Gea they would have conceded more goals yesterday.

Man United's performance was not too good against Villarreal. For a time, they seemed to dominate the game, that is, early in the second half when they played a fast tempo. Unfortunately, this condition can't last long.
Likewise with Ronaldo. Actually, he didn't play well, his movement was often anticipated by Villarreal defenders, and he made several mistakes, so he only had few chances to score. It's just that at the last minute he managed to score the winning goal.

Ronaldo is indeed a great player, even though he is not young anymore. But if Man United is too dependent on Ronaldo, then Man United's performance will not be able to progress because when Ronaldo can't play or he plays but not at his best, then Man United would have languished.

[kro55]

Barcelona oh Barcelona, ​​0 goals in 2 match that ended in defeat in the group stage is a very sad slap for them. Honestly I really want them to go through to the next stage, but their poor performance in the last 2 games make no sense. None of the attackers the team has scored and they have conceded 6 goals. No longer great with the existing composition of players or R. Koeman should be fired? I agree with the second option, but it becomes impossible due to very bad financial condition and it looks like they have to accept the offer of fresh funds from the dubai company this time.

It's sad to see how the high and mighty have fallen over the years. The team has basically fallen apart. Frontline and backslide did very little in that Benfica to aid the team. The way I see it, Koeman isn't even the only problem that Barcelona has to fix. It runs deeper than that. They might not make it out of this group if they don't start winning games from their 3rd group stage match.

I personally am the one who disagrees with Koeman's decision, because upon his arrival at Barcelona Koeman immediately sacked Suarez and I think it was a ridiculous decision. And again, the financial crisis due to the pandemic made it even more devastating, because if Suarez is still in the squad at least Barcelona still has a chance to improve management with achievements that can be achieved. Now, there is no hope for Barcelona to get the title in all competitions because Barcelona have to start again from scratch and it is not easy.

So far, all of Koeman's decisions in Barcelona have been wrong. He fired Suarez, many at the time thought Suarez was old. So maybe Koeman isn’t interested in keeping him on the team. But with the help of Suarez, Atletico Madrid won the title. Koeman, on the other hand, wants to play defensively with the Barcelona team. Because their defense is weak. Now Barcelona can't attack even against weaker teams, can't score. I think now that the Barcelona team has such a situation, Koemna is responsible for all this.

[KTChampions]

Man United's performance was not too good against Villarreal. For a time, they seemed to dominate the game, that is, early in the second half when they played a fast tempo. Unfortunately, this condition can't last long.
Likewise with Ronaldo. Actually, he didn't play well, his movement was often anticipated by Villarreal defenders, and he made several mistakes, so he only had few chances to score. It's just that at the last minute he managed to score the winning goal.

Ronaldo is indeed a great player, even though he is not young anymore. But if Man United is too dependent on Ronaldo, then Man United's performance will not be able to progress because when Ronaldo can't play or he plays but not at his best, then Man United would have languished.

I don’t think that now United is heavily dependent on Ronaldo, now they have a great roster and if we hear about Ronaldo in every match it’s only because he’s a very big name of a great athlete (plus he scores a goal in almost every match). I think during the season other players like Pogba, Sancho, Rashford, etc. will also fall into the spotlight.

[coinlocket$]

So far, all of Koeman's decisions in Barcelona have been wrong. He fired Suarez, many at the time thought Suarez was old. So maybe Koeman isn’t interested in keeping him on the team. But with the help of Suarez, Atletico Madrid won the title. Koeman, on the other hand, wants to play defensively with the Barcelona team. Because their defense is weak. Now Barcelona can't attack even against weaker teams, can't score. I think now that the Barcelona team has such a situation, Koemna is responsible for all this.

Koeman I think is the last problem of Barcelona at this moment.
The major problem is economic after the Covid and the Liga situation.

The next year will be better for them but they need to conclude this year in the top 4 spots in the national championship or it will be a massacre without the money from Champions Leauge.

[OcTradism]

Koeman I think is the last problem of Barcelona at this moment.
The major problem is economic after the Covid and the Liga situation.

The next year will be better for them but they need to conclude this year in the top 4 spots in the national championship or it will be a massacre without the money from Champions Leauge.

I can not disagree with you. They forgot what Koeman did for Barcelona in the last season. One title and they wanted Koeman to help them to win La Liga that they did not expect at the start of last season. They are very greedy.

Give the Barcelona team now to other coaches, they can not help Barcelona to win any title. That club has serious financial health and conflict between players and the board is not small. They have to keep the coach and depend on young players to build up for the future. Young players don't have things to lose and they need real matches to grow up. It is future of Barcelona.

Old players like Pique, Busquet, Alba should be transferred one way or another. They are barriers for the club now but Koeman is not.

[Daniel91]

After the last results, the best teams so far are Liverpool, Ajax and Bayern Munich. They won their matches with very good scores. And the most surprising team were Sheriff Tiraspol. They defeated not only Shakhtar by 2-0 home but also Real Madrid by 2-1 away. It is like they are living their biggest dream in the tournament. I don't know until when they will maintain this dream but we will see.

This is the biggest shock so far that Sheriff is the first in their group not only did they beat Shakhtar they beated Real Madrid and are first in the group.I think no one seen this coming,i have seen some crazy bets with some crazy odds wins on Sheriff against Real Madrid. With 6 points their chances of passing the group is now a lot bigger i think if they win 1 more game they will go through to the next stage.

The Sheriff’s success isn’t actually unexpected. Their owner has been investing big money in their football camp for a very long time, buying players, bringing in quality coaches ....
This year it all came together for them and obviously their time has come but everything is the result of their long and hard work and investment.
They were lucky against Real, but they deserved that luck because they were not afraid of a great opponent and they played bravely and offensively.
This can also be a guide for other small European clubs on how to fight for a place among the European elite.
Now they have a huge chance to win at least second place in the group and continue competing in the Champions League in the spring.
I've already read some jokes about Real, that they would like to play the Super League but they can't beat the Sheriff  
Or that was exactly why they wanted to play in the Super League, to avoid such public humiliations from clubs like Sheriff  

[Congyang]

It's sad to see how the high and mighty have fallen over the years. The team has basically fallen apart. Frontline and backslide did very little in that Benfica to aid the team. The way I see it, Koeman isn't even the only problem that Barcelona has to fix. It runs deeper than that. They might not make it out of this group if they don't start winning games from their 3rd group stage match.

I personally am the one who disagrees with Koeman's decision, because upon his arrival at Barcelona Koeman immediately sacked Suarez and I think it was a ridiculous decision. And again, the financial crisis due to the pandemic made it even more devastating, because if Suarez is still in the squad at least Barcelona still has a chance to improve management with achievements that can be achieved. Now, there is no hope for Barcelona to get the title in all competitions because Barcelona have to start again from scratch and it is not easy.

Indeed, until now, Koeman's decisions have been controversial and the decisions he made have been detrimental to the team.
example like you said about suarez which does feel like a bad decision. even more so as the case related to griezman which did lead to losses that befell Barcelona.
but I'm still confused by the decision of the management team who are still kind enough to Koeman about this.
and for now, I think the Barcelona formation in play so far is not effective and the tiki taka pattern that has become the hallmark of Barcelona is slowly disappearing.

[DU18]

The next year will be better for them but they need to conclude this year in the top 4 spots in the national championship or it will be a massacre without the money from Champions Leauge.

Barcelona still has a chance to improve their squad this season in January, I think La Liga is not a very competitive league so it won't be too difficult for Barcelona to be in 4th place in the standings at the end of the season, so maybe it will be a bit disappointing for Barcelona fans who hope this season barcelona can win a trophy after the failure of last season, even though barcelona condition is bad at this time but finishing in the top 4 is not a difficult thing for them even though they have been out of the championship path right now.

[mv1986]

The next year will be better for them but they need to conclude this year in the top 4 spots in the national championship or it will be a massacre without the money from Champions Leauge.

Barcelona still has a chance to improve their squad this season in January, I think La Liga is not a very competitive league so it won't be too difficult for Barcelona to be in 4th place in the standings at the end of the season, so maybe it will be a bit disappointing for Barcelona fans who hope this season barcelona can win a trophy after the failure of last season, even though barcelona condition is bad at this time but finishing in the top 4 is not a difficult thing for them even though they have been out of the championship path right now.

What do you mean by improving their squad? Get new players? Well, they can only get players that are not qualified for the Champions League or played in the CL yet, or otherwise they can't play for Barcelona in the CL. I don't know how much of an improvement those players would really be, but maybe you are right and Barcelona doesn't even have a choice but act.

[Minecache]

The next year will be better for them but they need to conclude this year in the top 4 spots in the national championship or it will be a massacre without the money from Champions Leauge.

Barcelona still has a chance to improve their squad this season in January, I think La Liga is not a very competitive league so it won't be too difficult for Barcelona to be in 4th place in the standings at the end of the season, so maybe it will be a bit disappointing for Barcelona fans who hope this season barcelona can win a trophy after the failure of last season, even though barcelona condition is bad at this time but finishing in the top 4 is not a difficult thing for them even though they have been out of the championship path right now.

They very badly need a lethal striker alongside Aguero and a defender. As Griezmann has left, they have some room to buy a player. As Real Madrid has also lost some of their strength, maybe it won't be that hard for them to place within the top 4. Atletico could be a threat though. But if Koeman strategizes match by match, and tries to win the away matches, maybe placing fourth should not be that hard. All we need is for Aguero to recover and return soon.

[Pulsar77]

Sheriff Tiraspol are the most attracting team these days in the Champions League. They are just making the unexpected things happen. It was not very surprising to me that they won against Shakhtar home. But the win in the Real Madrid game which was even away was really surprising for all of us. It is not easy to beat a this good Real Madrid. And there is a huge gap between Sheriff and Real Madrid in terms of strength. I can't wait to see Sheriff in their next game against Inter. Let's see if they will get another surprising result.

[LittleBitFunny]

The next year will be better for them but they need to conclude this year in the top 4 spots in the national championship or it will be a massacre without the money from Champions Leauge.

Barcelona still has a chance to improve their squad this season in January, I think La Liga is not a very competitive league so it won't be too difficult for Barcelona to be in 4th place in the standings at the end of the season, so maybe it will be a bit disappointing for Barcelona fans who hope this season barcelona can win a trophy after the failure of last season, even though barcelona condition is bad at this time but finishing in the top 4 is not a difficult thing for them even though they have been out of the championship path right now.

What do you mean by improving their squad? Get new players? Well, they can only get players that are not qualified for the Champions League or played in the CL yet, or otherwise they can't play for Barcelona in the CL. I don't know how much of an improvement those players would really be, but maybe you are right and Barcelona doesn't even have a choice but act.

There are some good enough players who don't play in the champions league. Europa League has decent players. All Barcelona has to do is somehow survive this season with a finish in the top four and maybe go as far as they can in the Champions League. Maybe next season they can go all out in the transfer market. But if they fail to finish top 4, that would impact very badly next season.

[Emitdama]

The next year will be better for them but they need to conclude this year in the top 4 spots in the national championship or it will be a massacre without the money from Champions Leauge.

Barcelona still has a chance to improve their squad this season in January, I think La Liga is not a very competitive league so it won't be too difficult for Barcelona to be in 4th place in the standings at the end of the season, so maybe it will be a bit disappointing for Barcelona fans who hope this season barcelona can win a trophy after the failure of last season, even though barcelona condition is bad at this time but finishing in the top 4 is not a difficult thing for them even though they have been out of the championship path right now.

Right now, the best hope for them is doing some better in Local League because this can bring some better for them future right now as we all know they already have serious trouble and no hopes for surviving in Champions League it's mean some more trouble in financial issues. Koeman strategies not helping them so better to try with some replacement as few already in pipeline for this job because if they are wasting time It's going to create more issues instead of doing some better.

[Kusman]

After the last results, the best teams so far are Liverpool, Ajax and Bayern Munich. They won their matches with very good scores. And the most surprising team were Sheriff Tiraspol. They defeated not only Shakhtar by 2-0 home but also Real Madrid by 2-1 away. It is like they are living their biggest dream in the tournament. I don't know until when they will maintain this dream but we will see.

This is the biggest shock so far that Sheriff is the first in their group not only did they beat Shakhtar they beated Real Madrid and are first in the group.I think no one seen this coming,i have seen some crazy bets with some crazy odds wins on Sheriff against Real Madrid. With 6 points their chances of passing the group is now a lot bigger i think if they win 1 more game they will go through to the next stage.

I really wonder how many people wagered on Sheriff in this match. They had really big odds for their win and winning the first half. I would never expect them to defeat Real Madrid in both halves. Real Madrid actually dominated the match against them but Sheriff took advantage of their chances very effectively. It is good to see a completely different team making surprises. Maybe it won't last forever but it is still a good thing that makes the competition more attractive.

[fullhdpixel]

So far, all of Koeman's decisions in Barcelona have been wrong. He fired Suarez, many at the time thought Suarez was old. So maybe Koeman isn’t interested in keeping him on the team. But with the help of Suarez, Atletico Madrid won the title. Koeman, on the other hand, wants to play defensively with the Barcelona team. Because their defense is weak. Now Barcelona can't attack even against weaker teams, can't score. I think now that the Barcelona team has such a situation, Koemna is responsible for all this.

I would assume that Suarez deal wasn't just based on what Koeman was doing or saying, it was also a little bit about how the previous president who sold Suarez wanted to hurt Messi as well. Suarez is good friends with Messi and when previous president sold him, that was basically a message to Messi about how he wasn't wanted anymore.

I would however agree with the idea that Koeman is not a great tactical wizard, he has a style and that style doesn't suit Barcelona at all, he could be great in any other team, I would say he would be perfect for many Italian teams because they prefer defense over offense as well however I doubt he could ever be good in Barcelona. Barcelona needs a manager that prefers technical fluidity on offense.