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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129357 times)
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October 21, 2021, 06:52:33 AM
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What a great game Man U vs Atalanta! I certainly expected Manchester United to win this match, but for them to get out of such a losing situation nobody could have guessed! By the way this game reminded me of another match from the Europa League - Spartak vs Leicester... There was exactly the same situation... Yesterday the English showed their fighting spirit! Grin

Of course Manchester United will only become better with the passing of time.This time is needed for Ronaldo to harmonize with the rest of the team,it is not yet completed but once it does it will become a symphony for football fans.When England teams play in their full capacity is only natural that they are better than Serie A teams,the Premier League is much more competitive than the Serie A right now.

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October 21, 2021, 07:05:11 AM
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I don't know if Manchester United would still sack ole after they came back with a fantastic turn around yesterday against atalanta, and again cristiano ronaldo was their hero in the UEFA champions league night, but Manchester United can't be letting those amounts of goals they are conceding In the champions league and in the league I think the have one of the worst defense amongst english premier league top ten teams now.
Congratulations to Barcelona on the win I think they can still qualify from that group after Bayern Munich left it late but still won Benfica 4:0

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October 21, 2021, 07:30:22 AM
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I don't know if Manchester United would still sack ole after they came back with a fantastic turn around yesterday against atalanta,
Manchester United should sack him if they don't want to waste more time. Again Ole was saved by his players. How many times was he saved by his players? A lot, by Pogba, Bruno, Greenwood, Rashford, Cavani or Ronaldo.

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again cristiano ronaldo was their hero in the UEFA champions league night, but Manchester United can't be letting those amounts of goals they are conceding In the champions league and in the league I think the have one of the worst defense amongst english premier league top ten teams now.
Ronaldo can help Manchester United to go to the 1/16 or 1/8 round but he won't be able to carry Manchester United to the semi-final or final match in Champions League. Ole must improve the defense system and try to bring more creativeness for the attacking system. Three seasons and he failed to improve defense for Manchester United. He relies on Maguire for defense and Bruno for creativeness. Now Ronaldo for goals.

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October 21, 2021, 07:41:47 AM
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Congratulations to Barcelona on the win I think they can still qualify from that group after Bayern Munich left it late but still won Benfica 4:0
Barcelona is not playing well, even Benfica was able to win Dynamo Kyiv flawlessly in a away match, Barcelona still find it difficult to score more than 1 in a home match, I am predicting Benfica may qualify but it can be in other way though. Benfica is still topping the table after Bayern



It is clear that Bayern is playing with inferior even including Barcelona to be inferior this time, Bayern will likely win all matches, it will still play with both Barcelona and Benfica in home matches, but what might be the determinant is the match between Benfica and Barcelona, but at Benfica's home.


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October 21, 2021, 07:50:58 AM
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And once again, Cristiano Ronaldo was decisive in scoring an excellent header giving victory to Man United. The season is only halfway through and Ronaldo, for the work he has done, has more than justified his hiring.

Cristiano's aura can boost any team and it's been proven one more time how strong it is. Without him, Man Utd will be out already from CL and more than 5 points from the top of EPL. As for Atalanta, again it shows how good they attack and how badly they defend... Roll Eyes

I don't know if Manchester United would still sack ole after they came back with a fantastic turn around yesterday against atalanta,
Manchester United should sack him if they don't want to waste more time. Again Ole was saved by his players. How many times was he saved by his players? A lot, by Pogba, Bruno, Greenwood, Rashford, Cavani or Ronaldo.

Ole is clear that is supported by the club's management for some unknown reason, which I can't understand. He can manage a team of this calibre, it's more than obvious and I totally agree that if they don't hire a new, more experienced manager, they will waste time and of course points everywhere.

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October 21, 2021, 07:53:21 AM
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I don't know if Manchester United would still sack ole after they came back with a fantastic turn around yesterday against atalanta, and again cristiano ronaldo was their hero in the UEFA champions league night, but Manchester United can't be letting those amounts of goals they are conceding In the champions league and in the league I think the have one of the worst defense amongst english premier league top ten teams now.

After winning the Champions League match, Manchester United's management does not seem to be dismissing Ole now. Moreover it takes time to work with new teams and new players. Give Ole some more time, he'll be able to take the team to a better position. However, Manchester United's biggest problem at the moment is that their defense is very weak. The defender is able to perform well while playing well against a weak team, the performance against a strong team is poor.

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October 21, 2021, 07:54:29 AM
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That will certainly be an attractive profit for bettors who choose these odds, over 4.5 or even over 3.5 I very rarely choose it, only in last night's match in the match between Benfica vs Bayern and Chelsea vs Malmo, and I think this a coincidence to be a good choice.

There were many matches with over 3.5 but last night we also had a number of 1-goal games and even had the nil-nil game where Sevilla also seemed to be quite happy to not attack the French club at home. So still very risky for me to take these games and that's why I can't really understand goal markets well. But as I mentioned in an earlier post I should really start paying more attention for a varied betting.

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October 21, 2021, 08:13:55 AM
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I don't know if Manchester United would still sack ole after they came back with a fantastic turn around yesterday against atalanta, and again cristiano ronaldo was their hero in the UEFA champions league night, but Manchester United can't be letting those amounts of goals they are conceding In the champions league and in the league I think the have one of the worst defense amongst english premier league top ten teams now.
Congratulations to Barcelona on the win I think they can still qualify from that group after Bayern Munich left it late but still won Benfica 4:0
Manchester United victory in the Champions League doesn't seem to have much of an impact on his future at Manchester United at this time, reportedly Manchester United is currently eyeing Zidane as a coach to replace Solskjaer later, Manchester United inconsistent performance is certainly the reason for the dismissal. Since the arrival of Ronaldo, the Manchester United squad has a leader who is able to motivate them to get up when they are losing and Ronaldo has shown his quality as a leader and also helps Manchester United to comeback in that match(Atlanta).

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I agree with you in part on the coach (Ole) because he's not that bad , and if the management could give him a little more time,  spend on quality players to support Ronaldo rather than on a new coach, the old days could be back in no time. Don't  forget Ole was scoring goals left right center like Ronaldo in his hay days and you shouldn't automatically render him tactically inept just because he's no longer playing. From Sir Alex,  i believe he's the only United Coach who has brought about stability and understands the Team's culture. Lets help him succeed.
This is the part i wont agree with you on @Pettuh4. How is Ole now a good Manager? I think Ole is the luckiest clueless coach right now. Every time the team goes through a series of bad results, somehow Man Utd will win dramatically when we think it's the last straw, and everyone will forget about the terrible matches until it starts again.... its a never-ending cycle. He has all the caliber of players to grab a silverware. This current squad of man united players is better than Arsenal's squad that won two domestic cups under Arteta. Should we also talk about Leicester city ? What is stability without a any silverware? is that progress or dancing around the league? A team that wants to win something looks beyond just any coach and hire someone very sound tactically based on the type of league and competition involved.  
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October 21, 2021, 08:29:51 AM
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After winning the Champions League match, Manchester United's management does not seem to be dismissing Ole now. Moreover it takes time to work with new teams and new players. Give Ole some more time, he'll be able to take the team to a better position. However, Manchester United's biggest problem at the moment is that their defense is very weak. The defender is able to perform well while playing well against a weak team, the performance against a strong team is poor.

In this last transfer market, Man United clearly doesn't reinforce the defense, which is currently its biggest weakness. I believe they will take advantage of the opening of the market in January, to try to strengthen their defence. Until then you have to be able to hold out as best you can.

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October 21, 2021, 08:33:58 AM
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That will certainly be an attractive profit for bettors who choose these odds, over 4.5 or even over 3.5 I very rarely choose it, only in last night's match in the match between Benfica vs Bayern and Chelsea vs Malmo, and I think this a coincidence to be a good choice.

There were many matches with over 3.5 but last night we also had a number of 1-goal games and even had the nil-nil game where Sevilla also seemed to be quite happy to not attack the French club at home. So still very risky for me to take these games and that's why I can't really understand goal markets well. But as I mentioned in an earlier post I should really start paying more attention for a varied betting.
While both teams have conceded and scored goals in the last few matches, then I think betting on 2.5 or higher could be a good option too. But about 4.5, I think it will be very risky, because to bet on a large number of goals at least we have to really understand the gameplay of the team, both the home team and the away team. Because if we only expect a lot of goals only from one side or from one team, to be honest it's very heavy and a risky bet but when you like challenges then I think it won't be a problem.

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October 21, 2021, 09:06:47 AM
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as well as i already know that manchester united is a team that has created some losses for me in the bets i have made, for yesterday's games i decided to create some countermeasures to avoid these types of situations where manchester united would give me losses



I won on this bet, and I lost a small amount on the bet I made that atalanta would win


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October 21, 2021, 09:29:38 AM
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MU played two completely different half's today. Outplayed by Atalanta completely in 1st and total dominance in 2nd. Ronaldo & co saves Solskjaer seat.
Benfica didn't deserved to lose 0:4. Bayern were better, but result don't fully reflect game, Benfica defended well until 1st goal.
Juve got difficult win against Zenit. Congrats for these who went with their win like me Smiley.
Young Boys - Villarreal. It was difficult to expect such big their win.
Very dull Barca performance, but win is win, that's most important thing. But it's good that Dynamo weren't able to offer anything in attack, otherwise it would be much more difficult.

A very contradictory result in terms of perception  Cheesy After 0-2, I felt a kind of relief - it seems like the horrors should end as it becomes obvious to everyone that it is time to decide something with the head coach (to hire a new one). But United were able to recoup and now we will suffer again, waiting for the outcome of this situation.
By the way, yesterday there was a pretty good performance - exactly 3 goals per game on average. Not as good as the day before yesterday (4.3) but also a lot of goals.

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I was surprised yesterday when I saw the betting rates for the Speil Wolfsburg against Salzburg and Salzburg was considered the favorite. The rates have Salzburg impressively confirmed I would not have thought so. In the game Manchester against Bergamo have surprised me the high odds for Manchester, as I expected it was a hard game for Manchester and Ronaldo has saved the 3 points, probably would have gone out in a draw, although you have to say a 2-0 lead away from home you can not give away so easily in the Champions League.

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October 21, 2021, 09:58:14 AM
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After winning the Champions League match, Manchester United's management does not seem to be dismissing Ole now. Moreover it takes time to work with new teams and new players. Give Ole some more time, he'll be able to take the team to a better position. However, Manchester United's biggest problem at the moment is that their defense is very weak. The defender is able to perform well while playing well against a weak team, the performance against a strong team is poor.

In this last transfer market, Man United clearly doesn't reinforce the defense, which is currently its biggest weakness. I believe they will take advantage of the opening of the market in January, to try to strengthen their defence. Until then you have to be able to hold out as best you can.
How many Defender will a manager to to buy before he can win a silverware for the team. Do you know that Man united defense is very expensive than Leicester city and Arsenal that have won some trophies lately. Should i also talk about Chelsea's defense? They only got Ben Chilwell for 50m last season and Tuchel has managed to win two major trophies. It is not all about getting Defenders and starting them in every game. Do you have the right set up to make them function effective. Do you how much is the whole Man united defense combined? Wan Bissaka was bought for 52m, Harry Maguire was 80m, now Rapheal  Varane was 43m. Do you even know what the team has and yet they are conceding goals in almost every game? You do not have to invest more on the defenders again.
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October 21, 2021, 10:26:50 AM
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I was surprised yesterday when I saw the betting rates for the Speil Wolfsburg against Salzburg and Salzburg was considered the favorite. The rates have Salzburg impressively confirmed I would not have thought so. In the game Manchester against Bergamo have surprised me the high odds for Manchester, as I expected it was a hard game for Manchester and Ronaldo has saved the 3 points, probably would have gone out in a draw, although you have to say a 2-0 lead away from home you can not give away so easily in the Champions League.

Manchester United fought well, they were fully determined to win that game, now they are at the top of the table in their group.
Rashford, Maguire and Ronaldo scored....fenandez all was great, he had full impart in the team....he created a lot of chances.









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October 21, 2021, 10:29:44 AM
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In this last transfer market, Man United clearly doesn't reinforce the defense, which is currently its biggest weakness. I believe they will take advantage of the opening of the market in January, to try to strengthen their defence. Until then you have to be able to hold out as best you can.

In winter, there are few good players to buy or they have to pay really much to get them out of their contract. The most they can do is sign one or two supplementary players for the defense.
But I wonder if that will be enough to play a main role in the CL this year. ManU has had big problems in three consecutive games against second-tier teams at European level. They lost against Young Boys Bern, won against Villareal in the last minute by luck and yesterday against Bergamo they won by luck again. The real tests will come against teams like PSG, ManCity or Bayern.
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October 21, 2021, 10:45:16 AM
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I was surprised yesterday when I saw the betting rates for the Speil Wolfsburg against Salzburg and Salzburg was considered the favorite. The rates have Salzburg impressively confirmed I would not have thought so. In the game Manchester against Bergamo have surprised me the high odds for Manchester, as I expected it was a hard game for Manchester and Ronaldo has saved the 3 points, probably would have gone out in a draw, although you have to say a 2-0 lead away from home you can not give away so easily in the Champions League.

Manchester United fought well, they were fully determined to win that game, now they are at the top of the table in their group.
Rashford, Maguire and Ronaldo scored....fenandez all was great, he had full impart in the team....he created a lot of chances.

A well deserved win for Man United, they struggle a lot in the 2nd half and managed to make a come back with 3 goals. Even though they win it but they need to evaluate the defense as it does not look good. Previously conceded by 4 goals against Leicester and today conceded by 2 goals easily in the first half against Atalanta. It should be improved as soon as possible.
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I was surprised yesterday when I saw the betting rates for the Speil Wolfsburg against Salzburg and Salzburg was considered the favorite. The rates have Salzburg impressively confirmed I would not have thought so. In the game Manchester against Bergamo have surprised me the high odds for Manchester, as I expected it was a hard game for Manchester and Ronaldo has saved the 3 points, probably would have gone out in a draw, although you have to say a 2-0 lead away from home you can not give away so easily in the Champions League.

Manchester United fought well, they were fully determined to win that game, now they are at the top of the table in their group.
Rashford, Maguire and Ronaldo scored....fenandez all was great, he had full impart in the team....he created a lot of chances.
Honestly I will not brag or take it seriously or score them anything till the end of season. They are already out of the FA cup and with the way they played yesterday, I don’t thing they might pass the knock out stage. They have only managed to keep one clean sheet this season, while the other serious Epl title contenders have kept more.  I look at the table and shake my head Imagine Brighton topping Manchester United on the table.. He should thank the players, Ronaldo inclusive, for saving his job for now. Because We know that Atalanta themselves are not too good defensively and that gave Manchester United the chances to score three goals. Ole has to improve his tactics and approach, otherwise he will be history at Manchester United.
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October 21, 2021, 11:07:25 AM
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After winning the Champions League match, Manchester United's management does not seem to be dismissing Ole now. Moreover it takes time to work with new teams and new players. Give Ole some more time, he'll be able to take the team to a better position. However, Manchester United's biggest problem at the moment is that their defense is very weak. The defender is able to perform well while playing well against a weak team, the performance against a strong team is poor.
In this last transfer market, Man United clearly doesn't reinforce the defense, which is currently its biggest weakness. I believe they will take advantage of the opening of the market in January, to try to strengthen their defence. Until then you have to be able to hold out as best you can.
How many Defender will a manager to to buy before he can win a silverware for the team. Do you know that Man united defense is very expensive than Leicester city and Arsenal that have won some trophies lately. Should i also talk about Chelsea's defense? They only got Ben Chilwell for 50m last season and Tuchel has managed to win two major trophies. It is not all about getting Defenders and starting them in every game. Do you have the right set up to make them function effective. Do you how much is the whole Man united defense combined? Wan Bissaka was bought for 52m, Harry Maguire was 80m, now Rapheal  Varane was 43m. Do you even know what the team has and yet they are conceding goals in almost every game? You do not have to invest more on the defenders again.

The main problem was their injuries and the defensive players are not clicking with each other. Yes, they got one of the best defenders this season - Varane, but he has barely played for them. Moreover, Maguire seems like he's making a lot of mistakes in the defense. United's attack is top-notch with Ronaldo, Cavani, Rashford, and Bruno, the defense is where Ole will need to spend more time. Once the defense is fit and is on form, United will do very well this season. But also congrats to them for winning against Atalanta.

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