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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129357 times)
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October 29, 2021, 02:13:53 PM
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Yes, Sherif beat Real Madrid in their home against their full-powered squad which is a huge deal but I don't think they will be able to do it twice in a row cause you said "miracles don't happen every day". This time Real will be prepared for them and the same goes in the case of Milan. But I have to appreciate that they are playing very well lately.
yes.. this is the match point of my discussion
miracles happen, but when the big ones see that you have played well, take precautions and start to fear yourself by playing more focused
I'm not saying it won't happen again, but it will be more difficult
'More difficult' should be the phrase used sheriff took advantage of a little lapses in Real Maldrids defense. And if sheriff plays against Maldrid again they might just play defensive midfield with no intention to win again
In my opinion if the sheriff prefers to play it safe by defending against madrid it is certainly very dangerous for the sheriff, because madrid now is not the madrid they faced at the beginning of the champions league, madrid now have recovered and their attack line is now sharp enough to score against the opponent, so if the sheriffs play safe to get a draw, of course, it is possible that they will lose the match, in my opinion the sheriff journey to penetrate the next round is not an easy thing and they are also very prone to being eliminated later.

Even if they qualify I hardly believe that they will win any match. But before that, they have to win against both Real and Milan which seems like an impossible task for them. And I agree with you, Real at the beginning of the CL and the Real now are different. They have found their scoring boots and are in good form.
sheriff have bigger chance pass on qualify to the next stage with collected six points after success winning two match and loss one match from Inter Milan, I think if keep consistent collected points on every match become runner up as best chance for sheriff right now, but depend how result get when faced with Real Madrid because this group have many team still get chance qualify to the next stage, Real Madrid have six points and Inter Milan have four points and I think Inter Milan will easy get three points from Shakhtar Donesk.

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October 29, 2021, 08:54:44 PM
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In my opinion if the sheriff prefers to play it safe by defending against madrid it is certainly very dangerous for the sheriff, because madrid now is not the madrid they faced at the beginning of the champions league, madrid now have recovered and their attack line is now sharp enough to score against the opponent, so if the sheriffs play safe to get a draw, of course, it is possible that they will lose the match, in my opinion the sheriff journey to penetrate the next round is not an easy thing and they are also very prone to being eliminated later.
Sheriff done good job in early matches now time for staying in Europa League because Inter already done good at home in away match they are not going to be easy, but they will crush them and having their spot for next round for Real Madrid they are also doing much better because now they also feel it is time for better results, so they will also go for win and if Sheriff done any mistake like defense game then surely it is going to hurt them more badly.

Sheriff the best chance is having good against Shakhtar which is also not easy but after having early 6 points going to help them for staying in touch with Europa League.

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October 29, 2021, 09:38:43 PM
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We will know a lot about the group stage here.

Milan needs to win or they are out.


Tuesday 2nd November
Malmo FF 17:45 Chelsea
Wolfsburg 17:45 Red Bull Salzburg
Atalanta 20:00 Manchester United
Bayern Munich 20:00 Benfica
Dynamo Kiev 20:00 Barcelona
Juventus 20:00 Zenit St. Petersburg
Sevilla 20:00 Lille
Villarreal 20:00 BSC Young Boys Bern

Wednesday 3rd November
AC Milan 17:45 FC Porto
Real Madrid 17:45 Shakhtar Donetsk
Borussia Dortmund 20:00 Ajax
Liverpool 20:00 Atletico Madrid
Manchester City 20:00 Club Brugge
RB Leipzig 20:00 Paris Saint-Germain
Sheriff Tiraspol (Mol) 20:00 Inter Milan
Sporting Lisbon 20:00 Besiktas

Source: https://www.skysports.com/champions-league-fixtures

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October 29, 2021, 09:59:52 PM
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With the arrival of a new coach (temporary coach) I hope that Barcelona still has a chance at least to qualify for the next round. Currently they have only 3 point in 3 match so they need a win to qualify. If Barcelona win 2/3 next match then they will go through I think. The most difficult match is when Barcelona go to Bayern Munchen because I think Barcelona will lose there. But first I want to see them win at Dynamo Kyiv.

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October 29, 2021, 10:20:25 PM
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We will know a lot about the group stage here.

Milan needs to win or they are out.


-snip-
Such a huge stake at the end of the group stage for ac milan, its matchday 4 though and they are hopeless with zero point out of 3 matches which yeah im pessimistic about how ac milan could get through this group of death ...
but i might go for ac milan to win against fc porto with 1 goal gap at best or get draw and go home.

moreover they are going to face as roma away from home this weekend, sunday night. what a freakin fixtures ahead.

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October 29, 2021, 10:30:24 PM
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With the arrival of a new coach (temporary coach) I hope that Barcelona still has a chance at least to qualify for the next round. Currently they have only 3 point in 3 match so they need a win to qualify. If Barcelona win 2/3 next match then they will go through I think. The most difficult match is when Barcelona go to Bayern Munchen because I think Barcelona will lose there. But first I want to see them win at Dynamo Kyiv.

This is a tough task now, winning 2 out of three is very risky....the team has to gel with the coaches tactics.
Beating Bayern Munich and Benfica will be very hard one to do.
But they have three points at the moment right ?
The ye just has to adapt to the recent style of play.

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In my opinion if the sheriff prefers to play it safe by defending against madrid it is certainly very dangerous for the sheriff, because madrid now is not the madrid they faced at the beginning of the champions league, madrid now have recovered and their attack line is now sharp enough to score against the opponent, so if the sheriffs play safe to get a draw, of course, it is possible that they will lose the match, in my opinion the sheriff journey to penetrate the next round is not an easy thing and they are also very prone to being eliminated later.
Sheriff done good job in early matches now time for staying in Europa League because Inter already done good at home in away match they are not going to be easy, but they will crush them and having their spot for next round for Real Madrid they are also doing much better because now they also feel it is time for better results, so they will also go for win and if Sheriff done any mistake like defense game then surely it is going to hurt them more badly.
Sheriff the best chance is having good against Shakhtar which is also not easy but after having early 6 points going to help them for staying in touch with Europa League.
In any case, the technical drawing of the Sheriff's game is unlikely to undergo drastic changes. This is still a patient game in defense and looking for your chances at other gates in counterattacks. Previous matches have already shown that it works at times and it can also work now. In all his previous group stage matches, Sheriff was not the favorite, but still scored his six points. Therefore, in any case, the Sheriff has chances both to continue the fight in the Champions League and to move to the Europa League. There should be more chances in the match with Inter because the game will take place on the Sheriff's home field and it is still unknown how everything will turn out. Although, of course, on paper Inter has a better chance of winning, but everything is decided on the football field, not on paper.
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October 30, 2021, 12:06:20 AM
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With the arrival of a new coach (temporary coach) I hope that Barcelona still has a chance at least to qualify for the next round. Currently they have only 3 point in 3 match so they need a win to qualify. If Barcelona win 2/3 next match then they will go through I think. The most difficult match is when Barcelona go to Bayern Munchen because I think Barcelona will lose there. But first I want to see them win at Dynamo Kyiv.

I don't see the chances for barcelona so slim in that match against Bayern Munich. If anything goes the way as it is looking now Bayern should be already qualified for the the next stage of the tournament once they have to play against Barcelona and i can imagine that Bayern will not play with their best squad then and will try to give some players a chance that are usually not playing so much. If this happens then the chances of a win of Barca are definitely increasing. Barcelona would really need to go through into the next round as it would mean a few million € more for them and they really need that money to pay back their debts.
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October 30, 2021, 12:59:40 AM
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With the arrival of a new coach (temporary coach) I hope that Barcelona still has a chance at least to qualify for the next round. Currently they have only 3 point in 3 match so they need a win to qualify. If Barcelona win 2/3 next match then they will go through I think. The most difficult match is when Barcelona go to Bayern Munchen because I think Barcelona will lose there. But first I want to see them win at Dynamo Kyiv.

I don't see the chances for barcelona so slim in that match against Bayern Munich. If anything goes the way as it is looking now Bayern should be already qualified for the the next stage of the tournament once they have to play against Barcelona and i can imagine that Bayern will not play with their best squad then and will try to give some players a chance that are usually not playing so much. If this happens then the chances of a win of Barca are definitely increasing. Barcelona would really need to go through into the next round as it would mean a few million € more for them and they really need that money to pay back their debts.
Barcelona is now worst to the extent that winning a match looks and seems too difficult for them.They have been strougling recently,and things have not really gone on well.But what really amaze me is that there are players that are very good and talented still I that club,it was only Messi that was a very big name that left,but right now,it looks as if it was all the first team players that left.
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October 30, 2021, 10:05:09 AM
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With the arrival of a new coach (temporary coach) I hope that Barcelona still has a chance at least to qualify for the next round. Currently they have only 3 point in 3 match so they need a win to qualify. If Barcelona win 2/3 next match then they will go through I think. The most difficult match is when Barcelona go to Bayern Munchen because I think Barcelona will lose there. But first I want to see them win at Dynamo Kyiv.

Regardless of Messi’s departure I think Barcelona still have very good players and a strong team.
Obviously, the main problem is the relationship between the coach and the players, and that will now finally change with a new coach.
Barcelona is not really much far behind the leading club in the Spanish championship, and in the Champions League group it has a good chance of passing the group.
I believe that the new coach will bring new energy and inspiration and that the players will focus more on their game and less on the rumors about the club, and that the club will finally start to achieve results in accordance with its reputation.

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October 30, 2021, 10:46:43 AM
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Even if they qualify I hardly believe that they will win any match. But before that, they have to win against both Real and Milan which seems like an impossible task for them. And I agree with you, Real at the beginning of the CL and the Real now are different. They have found their scoring boots and are in good form.
sheriff have bigger chance pass on qualify to the next stage with collected six points after success winning two match and loss one match from Inter Milan, I think if keep consistent collected points on every match become runner up as best chance for sheriff right now, but depend how result get when faced with Real Madrid because this group have many team still get chance qualify to the next stage, Real Madrid have six points and Inter Milan have four points and I think Inter Milan will easy get three points from Shakhtar Donesk.
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besides that they also have to be able to get full points again when dealing with shakhthr. this would be great because if they win against shakhtar they just need to maximize the draw between games against madrid and inter this will be in their favour.
but it seems that inter and real madrid are getting hot with the results and the current standings, especially for madrid of course they don't want to slack off against the sheriff

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October 30, 2021, 10:50:29 AM
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With the arrival of a new coach (temporary coach) I hope that Barcelona still has a chance at least to qualify for the next round. Currently they have only 3 point in 3 match so they need a win to qualify. If Barcelona win 2/3 next match then they will go through I think. The most difficult match is when Barcelona go to Bayern Munchen because I think Barcelona will lose there. But first I want to see them win at Dynamo Kyiv.

If Barca wins the games against Lisbon and Kiev, then they will definitely be in the next round, since it is unlikely that Lisbon will win against Bayern. Only if Lisbon wins against Bayern and Barca loses against Bayern, then Barca would be eliminated (if Lisbon then gets at least four points against Barca and Kiev). The only question is whether the new interim coach can turn the tide so quickly or whether the problems are not deeper and need more time to fix them.
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October 30, 2021, 02:23:34 PM
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With the arrival of a new coach (temporary coach) I hope that Barcelona still has a chance at least to qualify for the next round. Currently they have only 3 point in 3 match so they need a win to qualify. If Barcelona win 2/3 next match then they will go through I think. The most difficult match is when Barcelona go to Bayern Munchen because I think Barcelona will lose there. But first I want to see them win at Dynamo Kyiv.

If Barca wins the games against Lisbon and Kiev, then they will definitely be in the next round, since it is unlikely that Lisbon will win against Bayern. Only if Lisbon wins against Bayern and Barca loses against Bayern, then Barca would be eliminated (if Lisbon then gets at least four points against Barca and Kiev). The only question is whether the new interim coach can turn the tide so quickly or whether the problems are not deeper and need more time to fix them.

Well it is at least a home game for Barcelona, but don't forget that they still have to win against Kiev in an away game. That is not guaranteed in my eyes, by no means and even Kiev has a chance to at least make it to the European League. If they manage to beat Barcelona they can still make it to final CL round in the last game against Lisbon. 

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October 30, 2021, 03:37:36 PM
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We will know a lot about the group stage here.

Milan needs to win or they are out.
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Interestingly enough, even Milan's victories in the remaining 3 games do not guarantee it an entry into the playoffs. In general, we can say that Milan has ghostly chances to continue the fight, maybe it should concentrate on the domestic championship (where things are going well) and not waste energy on the Champions League.

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October 30, 2021, 04:47:45 PM
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With the arrival of a new coach (temporary coach) I hope that Barcelona still has a chance at least to qualify for the next round. Currently they have only 3 point in 3 match so they need a win to qualify. If Barcelona win 2/3 next match then they will go through I think. The most difficult match is when Barcelona go to Bayern Munchen because I think Barcelona will lose there. But first I want to see them win at Dynamo Kyiv.

If Barca wins the games against Lisbon and Kiev, then they will definitely be in the next round, since it is unlikely that Lisbon will win against Bayern. Only if Lisbon wins against Bayern and Barca loses against Bayern, then Barca would be eliminated (if Lisbon then gets at least four points against Barca and Kiev). The only question is whether the new interim coach can turn the tide so quickly or whether the problems are not deeper and need more time to fix them.

Considering the points the teams have right now, Barca seems like they have a higher chance to qualify for the next round. They will be able to win against Kyiv and Lisbon I'm guessing and Bayern also should not have any problem winning against Lisbon in my opinion. Barca has somewhat recovered from their bad form, I just hope they win their next 2 matches.

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October 30, 2021, 05:22:07 PM
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We are only a few days away from the next round. The opening games are going to be Malmo vs Chelsea and Wolfsburg vs Salzburg. I think that Chelsea are going to play one of their easiest group games. They defeated Malmo by 4-0 in their last group game. This time, Lukaku, Werner, Mount and Kovacic all are not expected to play in this game. Maybe this will weaken them in the attacking side but they should still be able to win this. As for the other game, Salzburg defeated Wolfsburg by 3-1 in their last group game. Both teams have many missing players now. But I think that we can watch a quite competitive game here. And I don't expect Wolfsburg to lose this time.

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October 30, 2021, 08:21:26 PM
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With the arrival of a new coach (temporary coach) I hope that Barcelona still has a chance at least to qualify for the next round. Currently they have only 3 point in 3 match so they need a win to qualify. If Barcelona win 2/3 next match then they will go through I think. The most difficult match is when Barcelona go to Bayern Munchen because I think Barcelona will lose there. But first I want to see them win at Dynamo Kyiv.

If Barca wins the games against Lisbon and Kiev, then they will definitely be in the next round, since it is unlikely that Lisbon will win against Bayern. Only if Lisbon wins against Bayern and Barca loses against Bayern, then Barca would be eliminated (if Lisbon then gets at least four points against Barca and Kiev). The only question is whether the new interim coach can turn the tide so quickly or whether the problems are not deeper and need more time to fix them.

This is a pretty realistic option. I think Benfica can take 4 points in the games against Barcelona and Kiev. Win against Dynamo Kiev and play a draw against Barcelona. I don't think Barcelona can beat Bayern. And if Barcelona will get out of the group, then it will will meet stronger teams. And he is unlikely to be able to go far in the rounds. So in my opinion it would be better to focus on the LaLiga and the Spanish Cup. In these competitions they have more chances than in the Champions League.
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October 30, 2021, 08:27:34 PM
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Manchester United got a very valuable win against Tottenham today by 3-0 away. And this must be enough for them to get better in their Champions League match ahead. They are going to be away this time and against Atalanta again. In their last head-to-head match, Manchester United managed to defeat them by making a big comeback from 0-2 to 3-2 in Old Trafford. This match could be harder than that one. But Manchester United must win to keep up a decent form and they can too.
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October 30, 2021, 08:30:40 PM
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With the arrival of a new coach (temporary coach) I hope that Barcelona still has a chance at least to qualify for the next round. Currently they have only 3 point in 3 match so they need a win to qualify. If Barcelona win 2/3 next match then they will go through I think. The most difficult match is when Barcelona go to Bayern Munchen because I think Barcelona will lose there. But first I want to see them win at Dynamo Kyiv.
the possibility is still there, because indeed they are only 1 point adrift of benfica.
forget to be the leader of the standings because it is not impossible, they should at least be able to maintain maximum results must draw with bayern even though it's very difficult because when they meet bayern they always lose with a striking score Cheesy
at least now they don't slip like they did against benfica, because if they slip against benfica I think they will probably get away with it.

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October 31, 2021, 05:27:03 PM
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Manchester United got a very valuable win against Tottenham today by 3-0 away. And this must be enough for them to get better in their Champions League match ahead. They are going to be away this time and against Atalanta again. In their last head-to-head match, Manchester United managed to defeat them by making a big comeback from 0-2 to 3-2 in Old Trafford. This match could be harder than that one. But Manchester United must win to keep up a decent form and they can too.

A very well-deserved win against Spurs. They won the last game against Atalanta with a very good comeback. Atalanta might give Utd some headaches in their home to Utd. I'm hoping for a competitive game.

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