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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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October 24, 2021, 11:46:40 AM
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Paul Lee finally had a good game to lead his team to win.

He scored 21 points and good that he does not make a lot of attempts on his 3 point shots which he was not consistent in the last 2 games, that was a smart decision by him. TNT was tried to come back but Magnolia was able to hold on and they own this night so the series score now is 2-1, still in favor of the TNT.

He indeed have a good game, that's the Paul Lee that we missed in the series, and with that impressive performance of his, he was able to give hope for his team to still fight and even the series in game 4. If Magnolia wins game 4, I would say I smell a game 7 here.



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October 24, 2021, 12:32:42 PM
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Wow! after a very bad performance of the Magnolia Hotspots in game 1 and 2, they are playing with some sense of urgency and they were successful of getting their first win. Though they are still down by 1 win in the series, but this is a good start for them already, I'm wondering what the line would be in game 4. Smiley

I have a plan, applying the martingale strategy, I'm putting my bet on TNT in game 4 and will double in game 5 if they lose, no way TNT will have a 3 straight loss.

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October 24, 2021, 01:00:54 PM
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Wow! after a very bad performance of the Magnolia Hotspots in game 1 and 2, they are playing with some sense of urgency and they were successful of getting their first win. Though they are still down by 1 win in the series, but this is a good start for them already, I'm wondering what the line would be in game 4. Smiley

I have a plan, applying the martingale strategy, I'm putting my bet on TNT in game 4 and will double in game 5 if they lose, no way TNT will have a 3 straight loss.

Looks like the game was rigged? look at the video https://fb.watch/8R4oVFDJqk/ and tell me if there's a foul.

Did the refs unintentionally miss the call, or do they just like to blow their whistle so Magnolia will win in game 3.

Clearly there's no foul .


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October 24, 2021, 01:30:26 PM
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Wow! after a very bad performance of the Magnolia Hotspots in game 1 and 2, they are playing with some sense of urgency and they were successful of getting their first win. Though they are still down by 1 win in the series, but this is a good start for them already, I'm wondering what the line would be in game 4. Smiley

I have a plan, applying the martingale strategy, I'm putting my bet on TNT in game 4 and will double in game 5 if they lose, no way TNT will have a 3 straight loss.

Looks like the game was rigged? look at the video https://fb.watch/8R4oVFDJqk/ and tell me if there's a foul.

Did the refs unintentionally miss the call, or do they just like to blow their whistle so Magnolia will win in game 3.

Clearly there's no foul .



That was obviously no foul at all, I believe that PBA is rigged but this one is very obvious, unfortunately, they cannot revert the call so Paul Lee will get a free throw that really helps the team. We don't see more of these in the last two games because TNT clearly won the game.

By the way, Rosario seems broke his finger, I think he will not be able to play anymore.

read for more information on the injury.
https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/10/24/21/tnts-troy-rosario-suffers-dislocated-finger-in-game-3

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October 24, 2021, 01:32:18 PM
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Looks like the game was rigged? look at the video https://fb.watch/8R4oVFDJqk/ and tell me if there's a foul.

Did the refs unintentionally miss the call, or do they just like to blow their whistle so Magnolia will win in game 3.

Clearly there's no foul .

Clearly, the defender doesn't touch the elbow of Paul Lee but I'm not sure if that act of Heruela is a foul because the is a rule that even if there's no contact but there's an intent, still a foul, hope some basketball expert will explain that play but one thing i for sure, the game was not rigged.

Magnolia will win a game or two but IMO, they will bow to TNT at the end.

Damn, I may be the one who has all the bad luck for this series  Grin, may be I will pass on game 4.
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October 24, 2021, 01:38:45 PM
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Paul Lee finally had a good game to lead his team to win.

He scored 21 points and good that he does not make a lot of attempts on his 3 point shots which he was not consistent in the last 2 games, that was a smart decision by him. TNT was tried to come back but Magnolia was able to hold on and they own this night so the series score now is 2-1, still in favor of the TNT.
This is what Magnolia needs. A second scorer aside from Sangalang. I just hope that Lee will maintain this kind of performance if they want to win against TNT.
Still, they didn't stop the TNT's main threat right now which is Mikey Williams who exploded for 39 points and played almost the whole game.

I also hope that Troy Rosario will have a fast recovery with his finger injury but I expect that he will not play at least in Game 4.

Wow! after a very bad performance of the Magnolia Hotspots in game 1 and 2, they are playing with some sense of urgency and they were successful of getting their first win. Though they are still down by 1 win in the series, but this is a good start for them already, I'm wondering what the line would be in game 4. Smiley

I have a plan, applying the martingale strategy, I'm putting my bet on TNT in game 4 and will double in game 5 if they lose, no way TNT will have a 3 straight loss.

Looks like the game was rigged? look at the video https://fb.watch/8R4oVFDJqk/ and tell me if there's a foul.

Did the refs unintentionally miss the call, or do they just like to blow their whistle so Magnolia will win in game 3.

Clearly there's no foul .


I watched the video and even the commentators laughed at the referee's call.

I like to say that this is an obvious wrong call by the referees but if there is only a rule to revert a foul call then it must be applied here. Even Heruela himself was shocked at the no contact foul.
For me, saying the game is rigged just because of one missed call is unfair and in fact there are some calls from the referees too that is considered a wrong call. Flops. That is also a wrong call. This is a wrong call but not a rigged game at least for me. That is what I see Smiley

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October 24, 2021, 01:39:43 PM
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Looks like the game was rigged? look at the video https://fb.watch/8R4oVFDJqk/ and tell me if there's a foul.

Did the refs unintentionally miss the call, or do they just like to blow their whistle so Magnolia will win in game 3.

Clearly there's no foul .

Clearly, the defender doesn't touch the elbow of Paul Lee but I'm not sure if that act of Heruela is a foul because the is a rule that even if there's no contact but there's an intent, still a foul, hope some basketball expert will explain that play but one thing i for sure, the game was not rigged.

Magnolia will win a game or two but IMO, they will bow to TNT at the end.



Let's wait for the explanation, but if there was a rigged happened in that game, the PBA will not going to question it and they will always make an explanation that would not make people doubt about that game, this type of game is one of the reasons why people think that PBA is rigged.

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TNT in game 4, maybe they'll win since Rosario was injured with a dislocated pinky finger.

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October 24, 2021, 08:48:09 PM
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Looks like the game was rigged? look at the video https://fb.watch/8R4oVFDJqk/ and tell me if there's a foul.

Did the refs unintentionally miss the call, or do they just like to blow their whistle so Magnolia will win in game 3.

Clearly there's no foul .

Clearly, the defender doesn't touch the elbow of Paul Lee but I'm not sure if that act of Heruela is a foul because the is a rule that even if there's no contact but there's an intent, still a foul, hope some basketball expert will explain that play but one thing i for sure, the game was not rigged.

Magnolia will win a game or two but IMO, they will bow to TNT at the end.

Damn, I may be the one who has all the bad luck for this series  Grin, may be I will pass on game 4.

Clearly no foul but you've got a good point, since there are also some rule in which even you didn't touch the player but you show some gesture you might get the foul, if this game will be reviewed or if TNT will ask for review and questioned the credibility of the ref who called this foul, it's a good start to dig deeper with the rumors of game rigging.

But as how we have seen it from the past, without deeper investigations nothing will happen and the league will go on.

I can say that magnolia may win or even force this to do or die game, but TNT still has the better chance of winning the title.

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October 24, 2021, 09:22:34 PM
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Wow! after a very bad performance of the Magnolia Hotspots in game 1 and 2, they are playing with some sense of urgency and they were successful of getting their first win. Though they are still down by 1 win in the series, but this is a good start for them already, I'm wondering what the line would be in game 4. Smiley

I have a plan, applying the martingale strategy, I'm putting my bet on TNT in game 4 and will double in game 5 if they lose, no way TNT will have a 3 straight loss.
As expected with Magnolia, they are not going to lose without a fight and I don’t know if the referee calls is right but the whole games, Magnolia really dis a great job. Yes, TNT will bounce back because they are good as well, I’m also planning to Bet with TNT in game 4 this are getting more exciting will also try to bet in game 5 and follow this strategy, looks more profitable.
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October 24, 2021, 09:23:50 PM
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I can say that magnolia may win or even force this to do or die game, but TNT still has the better chance of winning the title.

If they cannot stop Mikey Williams, that would not happen.

IMO, Magnolia might be able to win another game but that will be enough for them as this series might end in game 5 or 6 in and Mikey Williams being a Rookie will receive a finals MVP ( not sure if he makes history here).

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October 24, 2021, 10:05:21 PM
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I can say that magnolia may win or even force this to do or die game, but TNT still has the better chance of winning the title.

If they cannot stop Mikey Williams, that would not happen.

IMO, Magnolia might be able to win another game but that will be enough for them as this series might end in game 5 or 6 in and Mikey Williams being a Rookie will receive a finals MVP ( not sure if he makes history here).

He is really the big gap from this series, unlike with SMB where Romeo and Ross able to limit him with Magnolia no one until now who finds a way to stop this young star. Adjustment over another, If magnolia wants to extend their chance, they need to have more strategy aside from using the help of the officials Grin

The chance is slim for them. Hopefully, those unexplained calls will no longer be present coming this game 4. TNT is not new with these kinds of Calls, they have that same issue back against SMB the time they've got Terrence Jones. Roll Eyes

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October 25, 2021, 06:14:27 AM
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Looks like the game was rigged? look at the video https://fb.watch/8R4oVFDJqk/ and tell me if there's a foul.

Did the refs unintentionally miss the call, or do they just like to blow their whistle so Magnolia will win in game 3.

Clearly there's no foul .



Saying the game is rigged should not be called here. Just to make it clear, a whole rigged game requires the participation of all starting from officials to players. On those wrong calls from Game 1 to 3, we should blame the referees instead. How come we can conclude that the overall game is rigged if players are seen competing and serious winning on the game.

It's better to call it an irresponsible act by the referees. Their officiating should be watched and the league should impose sanctions if there's a shitty call on their part.

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October 25, 2021, 06:51:31 AM
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Troy Rosario's injury would affect the TNT's defense IMO.

The injury was serious if you look how the hand was dislocated, and I don't see a chance that he could play in game 4 even if he is not declared out yet.

https://mb.com.ph/2021/10/24/troy-rosario-dislocates-finger-after-bad-fall-in-game-3-loss/

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It’s still too early to tell if the injury will affect Rosario’s status for Game 4, tentatively set for Wednesday.

Rosario has been one of TNT’s most important players during its run to the championship series.

Well, good thing TNT has more time to figure out what to do in case Troy will be officially ruled out, but hopefully he will recover soon as TNT has the best chance to win a championship now. It's now or never.

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October 25, 2021, 07:42:13 AM
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Troy Rosario's injury would affect the TNT's defense IMO.

The injury was serious if you look how the hand was dislocated, and I don't see a chance that he could play in game 4 even if he is not declared out yet.

https://mb.com.ph/2021/10/24/troy-rosario-dislocates-finger-after-bad-fall-in-game-3-loss/

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It’s still too early to tell if the injury will affect Rosario’s status for Game 4, tentatively set for Wednesday.

Rosario has been one of TNT’s most important players during its run to the championship series.

Well, good thing TNT has more time to figure out what to do in case Troy will be officially ruled out, but hopefully he will recover soon as TNT has the best chance to win a championship now. It's now or never.

Though Troy is very important to the team they have bigs that are willing to step up to win.

I don't want to expect that Troy will be available in game 4 but I expect for the TNT to bounce back after a loss in game 3.
As Mikey Williams continues to be playing like an MVP, we can always trust the TNT to win in any game.

Anyway, good luck, and whatever team you'll pick, maybe the best capper wins.

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October 25, 2021, 10:03:33 AM
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I can say that magnolia may win or even force this to do or die game, but TNT still has the better chance of winning the title.

If they cannot stop Mikey Williams, that would not happen.

IMO, Magnolia might be able to win another game but that will be enough for them as this series might end in game 5 or 6 in and Mikey Williams being a Rookie will receive a finals MVP ( not sure if he makes history here).

He is really the big gap from this series, unlike with SMB where Romeo and Ross able to limit him with Magnolia no one until now who finds a way to stop this young star. Adjustment over another, If magnolia wants to extend their chance, they need to have more strategy aside from using the help of the officials Grin

Hopefully, those unexplained calls will no longer be present coming this game 4. TNT is not new with these kinds of Calls, they have that same issue back against SMB the time they've got Terrence Jones. Roll Eyes

We can't expect to see that if the management wants this series to reach game 7.

Though we, fans do not like these questionable calls we all want to see this series be longer (unless you bet on the TNT to win in the series).

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As of now, yes, but if Magnolia will again win in game 4 and even the series, I think the chance is already 50/50 and that's where the betting will become more exciting since no home court advantage or whatsoever, only the hungrier team will win.

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October 25, 2021, 11:29:41 AM
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Update on Troy Rosario's status.

https://web.facebook.com/OneSportsPHL/photos/a.678816935473756/4977930102229063/



Bet on Magnolia in game 3, TNT is now short-handed.

I wonder what's gonna be the line in game 3.
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October 25, 2021, 12:24:12 PM
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Did Jackson Corpus gets investigated if the foul was intentional or not?

Look at the video and the reaction of the viewers, they say it's intentional and Corpuz did a dirty job over Troy Rosario.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=helR3OgR0oo



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October 25, 2021, 12:36:28 PM
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Update on Troy Rosario's status.

https://web.facebook.com/OneSportsPHL/photos/a.678816935473756/4977930102229063/



Bet on Magnolia in game 3, TNT is now short-handed.

I wonder what's gonna be the line in game 3.
You mean Game 4 right and not Game 3??
Well, I just watched the news on our television regarding this incident and by the way he fell over Corpuz its kinda obvious at least for me that he will not play the whole series. Back first and then he dislocated his finger. Just hoping that he will be fine after what happened to him. He might be ok to play in the next conference I think. For the bettors, Rosario is a big piece for the team and losing him is a big factor but take note that they still have Williams and Pogoy might shoot as well. With the absence of Rosario, players like Marcelo, Khobuntin and Kelly Williams can fill at least his role as a PF/Center.

A short update regarding the no-contact foul controversy. The referee that whistled the call is already dismissed and will not officiate with the future games anymore and Commissioner already said that they are investigating the incident. Its clearly a wrong call we know that. Smiley

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October 25, 2021, 12:41:01 PM
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I watched the video and even the commentators laughed at the referee's call.

I like to say that this is an obvious wrong call by the referees but if there is only a rule to revert a foul call then it must be applied here. Even Heruela himself was shocked at the no contact foul.
For me, saying the game is rigged just because of one missed call is unfair and in fact there are some calls from the referees too that is considered a wrong call. Flops. That is also a wrong call. This is a wrong call but not a rigged game at least for me. That is what I see Smiley

I watched this video on social media and what is alarming is the people were talking about PBA has been not the same these years because of such calls that's why most of the players that we know are now in the Japanese league playing. Are we really losing this association? I mean, it's a big loss for all of us because we grow older watching the games all the time and now the players are not gonna be the same next season because most of the star players will play outside the country. Are heading to an era where we no longer have any local professional basketball games to watch in our country?

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October 25, 2021, 12:51:59 PM
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A short update regarding the no-contact foul controversy. The referee that whistled the call is already dismissed and will not officiate with the future games anymore and Commissioner already said that they are investigating the incident. Its clearly a wrong call we know that. Smiley

That's good news, at least PBA is doing something to discipline those referees who are making a questionable call, that's the way to protect their reputation, but what is done is done already, it cannot be reverted and Magnolia has taken the game 3 already.

The next move should be Jackson Corpus be suspended for the rest of the PBA Finals.

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