2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[Distinctin]

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For me, I would rather see Christian playing in B-League rather than staying on his team that he is only criticized by the fans. In B-League, it's more competitive and the most important thing is the salary is way bigger than what he is making with the PBA.

There’s a lot of B-League adoption going on with so many players recently so if this is a good opportunity for them to grow and make money why not? Let’s just hope that PBA are more open to this and will not penalize those who skip the draft since we are in a new era now and Japan has been a great place for our players, this might be a good news for Christian.

The popular players will grow but the PBA will not, LOL.

PBA cannot compete with the offers from B-League, so PBA would not be exciting without the star players we see.
Maybe they can make rules by not allowing a player to play abroad when they are still in contract, or make a contract longer so players will not look for another league as they will feel secure with a longer contract.

I don't know, but I'm sure the PBA already is making a way to figure out on stopping their players getting a chance to play with Japan's B- League.

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[carlisle1]

I am checking my Facebook and suddenly this appears on my wall. how true it is?



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For me, I would rather see Christian playing in B-League rather than staying on his team that he is only criticized by the fans. In B-League, it's more competitive and the most important thing is the salary is way bigger than what he is making with the PBA.

There’s a lot of B-League adoption going on with so many players recently so if this is a good opportunity for them to grow and make money why not? Let’s just hope that PBA are more open to this and will not penalize those who skip the draft since we are in a new era now and Japan has been a great place for our players, this might be a good news for Christian.

The popular players will grow but the PBA will not, LOL.

PBA cannot compete with the offers from B-League, so PBA would not be exciting without the star players we see.
Maybe they can make rules by not allowing a player to play abroad when they are still in contract, or make a contract longer so players will not look for another league as they will feel secure with a longer contract.

I don't know, but I'm sure the PBA already is making a way to figure out on stopping their players getting a chance to play with Japan's B- League.

If they didn't allow Kiefer to go, it will serve as a good warning to everyone, but since they give him permission, PBA also gives the GREEN sign

to those key players that will also receive a decent offer from Japan B-League, there's nothing the management can do aside from the ban that will be implemented after choosing to play abroad.

A penalty of one year? Still good enough if you receive a million monthly for playing one season for B-League team.

Play, then go home, wait for another year and be back to your team or whatever team that shows interest to you. PBA stars are also
given a good chance to rest and sign another contract anytime they feel to come back after that ban already lifted.

[blockman]

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For me, I would rather see Christian playing in B-League rather than staying on his team that he is only criticized by the fans. In B-League, it's more competitive and the most important thing is the salary is way bigger than what he is making with the PBA.

This is true. I've seen that with a more reputable news outlet and source. That's a good decision for him. It's now time for the PBA to replace almost everything within the league. It's better to follow the format of NBA for which that's being followed by the B league.
There's still huge following for the fans of PBA but they will keep seeing this transfer and it's quite disappointing to the side of PBA that they know that a player is going to transfer just after playing for their conference.

[goinmerry]

I am checking my Facebook and suddenly this appears on my wall. how true it is?

For me, I would rather see Christian playing in B-League rather than staying on his team that he is only criticized by the fans. In B-League, it's more competitive and the most important thing is the salary is way bigger than what he is making with the PBA.

This was shared before here. I also agree that CStand should play in the B-League if he wants to improve more his skills. Aside from salary, his playing style is fit with the B-League where most offenses came from the perimeter and under the paint where CStand is comfortable with.

But CStand has a behavior of always requesting he should be on the floor even the whole system designed by a Coach is not effective if he's there. He's also used to being the main scorer previously before landing in Ginebra. If there's another scoring machine on his supposed team in B-League, I hope he will cooperate. We see how hard for him to blend with his fellow Filipino teammates in Ginebra so what's more if for foreign teammates.

[freedomgo]

I am checking my Facebook and suddenly this appears on my wall. how true it is?

For me, I would rather see Christian playing in B-League rather than staying on his team that he is only criticized by the fans. In B-League, it's more competitive and the most important thing is the salary is way bigger than what he is making with the PBA.

This was shared before here. I also agree that CStand should play in the B-League if he wants to improve more his skills. Aside from salary, his playing style is fit with the B-League where most offenses came from the perimeter and under the paint where CStand is comfortable with.

But CStand has a behavior of always requesting he should be on the floor even the whole system designed by a Coach is not effective if he's there. He's also used to being the main scorer previously before landing in Ginebra. If there's another scoring machine on his supposed team in B-League, I hope he will cooperate. We see how hard for him to blend with his fellow Filipino teammates in Ginebra so what's more if for foreign teammates.

I didn't hear that rumor that he is always requesting more playing time because AFAIK, Christian is very dedicated in his job as a player and he'll follow whatever the coach will design for him. If you are talking about when he was still playing with the NorthPort, then most probably he would really have a lot of minutes because they have no other option, but when he played with the SMB, his minutes is very much controlled as JMF always gets the best minutes.

[bisdak40]

For me, I would rather see Christian playing in B-League rather than staying on his team that he is only criticized by the fans. In B-League, it's more competitive and the most important thing is the salary is way bigger than what he is making with the PBA.

Yes, there are offers for C-Stan to play in Japan but due to FIBA rules on Asian import, he may not play on the B1 League but rather on the B3 league which pays at least $36K per month, very much lower than B1 League players/imports received. 

But his playstyle fits on that kind of league though so this might be the last conference Christian will play in the PBA.

Stanhardinger, the 6-foot-8, 220-pound hybrid affectionately called C-Stan, only qualifies as a "world import" in Japan, relegating him to the B3.

Per a FIBA edict, Asian imports hooping in the B1 and B2 League must hold a passport and are qualified to play for the national team of their Asian country of origin. Standhardinger has played for Gilas Pilipinas is the past, but only as a naturalized player.

[crzy]

For me, I would rather see Christian playing in B-League rather than staying on his team that he is only criticized by the fans. In B-League, it's more competitive and the most important thing is the salary is way bigger than what he is making with the PBA.

Yes, there are offers for C-Stan to play in Japan but due to FIBA rules on Asian import, he may not play on the B1 League but rather on the B3 league which pays at least $36K per month, very much lower than B1 League players/imports received. 

But his playstyle fits on that kind of league though so this might be the last conference Christian will play in the PBA.

Stanhardinger, the 6-foot-8, 220-pound hybrid affectionately called C-Stan, only qualifies as a "world import" in Japan, relegating him to the B3.

Per a FIBA edict, Asian imports hooping in the B1 and B2 League must hold a passport and are qualified to play for the national team of their Asian country of origin. Standhardinger has played for Gilas Pilipinas is the past, but only as a naturalized player.

Looking at the numbers, that monthly income is really what matters here and I don't think PBA can counter offer it. This good opportunity for every PBA offer to accept the offer if there is because PBA is full of politics and criticism from its own viewers, its not worth it to stay if there's an offer but of course you must deliver so they'll get you again, I hope he accept the offer.

[Viscore]

For me, I would rather see Christian playing in B-League rather than staying on his team that he is only criticized by the fans. In B-League, it's more competitive and the most important thing is the salary is way bigger than what he is making with the PBA.

Yes, there are offers for C-Stan to play in Japan but due to FIBA rules on Asian import, he may not play on the B1 League but rather on the B3 league which pays at least $36K per month, very much lower than B1 League players/imports received. 

But his playstyle fits on that kind of league though so this might be the last conference Christian will play in the PBA.

Stanhardinger, the 6-foot-8, 220-pound hybrid affectionately called C-Stan, only qualifies as a "world import" in Japan, relegating him to the B3.

Per a FIBA edict, Asian imports hooping in the B1 and B2 League must hold a passport and are qualified to play for the national team of their Asian country of origin. Standhardinger has played for Gilas Pilipinas is the past, but only as a naturalized player.

Looking at the numbers, that monthly income is really what matters here and I don't think PBA can counter offer it. This good opportunity for every PBA offer to accept the offer if there is because PBA is full of politics and criticism from its own viewers, its not worth it to stay if there's an offer but of course you must deliver so they'll get you again, I hope he accept the offer.

There's no way they will counter it as the difference is too big. Just like the previous post,  Romeo is earning 200k PHP per month in the PBA while he can earn as much as 2 million PHP per month so that x10 amount he will make will never be given by the SMC management, even JMF is not making 1 million per month.

[LogitechMouse]

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For me, I would rather see Christian playing in B-League rather than staying on his team that he is only criticized by the fans. In B-League, it's more competitive and the most important thing is the salary is way bigger than what he is making with the PBA.

There’s a lot of B-League adoption going on with so many players recently so if this is a good opportunity for them to grow and make money why not? Let’s just hope that PBA are more open to this and will not penalize those who skip the draft since we are in a new era now and Japan has been a great place for our players, this might be a good news for Christian.

While this is a good thing for the PH players, this is bad for the PBA.
While PH players are getting paid higher and getting more experience playing outside the country, PBA is losing some great players.

The good thing though is that, people aren't that strict anymore with regards to Fil-foreign players. They are allowing players who want to play in PBA that are restricted because of some rules. They just needed passport and they will play. These will allow more players to play in our league because there are many Fil-foreign players who want to play in PBA.

We want to see PH players playing outside our country for some reasons. Lets face it, B-league is better in terms of salary and competition than PBA that is why some PH players are opting to play there.

[agustina2]

While this is a good thing for the PH players, this is bad for the PBA.
While PH players are getting paid higher and getting more experience playing outside the country, PBA is losing some great players.

There are only 2 players right now that shift from PBA to Japan B league and those players are overrated in the league. Ray Parks Jr. and Kiefer Ravena are just average players in the league so I don't think they can be considered as great players in the PBA right now even you add Christian Standhardinger there.

The problem is not those players that come from PBA but those prospects that don't want to be drafted in the league and went straight to Japan B-league. High salary, high compensation but these players need to show they deserved those paychecks. If they failed to show that, they will be removed from that league and PBA will still be their last checkpoint.

[carlisle1]

While this is a good thing for the PH players, this is bad for the PBA.
While PH players are getting paid higher and getting more experience playing outside the country, PBA is losing some great players.

There are only 2 players right now that shift from PBA to Japan B league and those players are overrated in the league. Ray Parks Jr. and Kiefer Ravena are just average players in the league so I don't think they can be considered as great players in the PBA right now even you add Christian Standhardinger there.

The problem is not those players that come from PBA but those prospects that don't want to be drafted in the league and went straight to Japan B-league. High salary, high compensation but these players need to show they deserved those paychecks. If they failed to show that, they will be removed from that league and PBA will still be their last checkpoint.

So far, those mentioned names who went straight to B-League are performing casually from how the team assigned them.
Aside from Kobe Paras who are really creating his name to this league, I think the management is happy with how Paras
giving his service.

The point here is, with those hypes being created by those young players who making a huge amount of money, being practical and knowing that you can do much better compared to those young kids,

PBA stars might think about it and consider those offers, 1 season can bring decent paychecks which you can established good business for your future, instead of playing long years from PBA

[freedomgo]

While this is a good thing for the PH players, this is bad for the PBA.
While PH players are getting paid higher and getting more experience playing outside the country, PBA is losing some great players.

There are only 2 players right now that shift from PBA to Japan B league and those players are overrated in the league. Ray Parks Jr. and Kiefer Ravena are just average players in the league so I don't think they can be considered as great players in the PBA right now even you add Christian Standhardinger there.

The problem is not those players that come from PBA but those prospects that don't want to be drafted in the league and went straight to Japan B-league. High salary, high compensation but these players need to show they deserved those paychecks. If they failed to show that, they will be removed from that league and PBA will still be their last checkpoint.

That's nice if they still have a chance to play in the PBA back, however, the reason they were signed by Japan's B-League is that they have the quality of a good import, and unless they are fully injured, they can still play and enjoy their good salary. Ray Parks Jr. used to play in international games already, it's not new for him and as far as I see, he is doing well with this team.

And the most important is he is happy.
https://www.espn.ph/basketball/pba/story/_/id/32080376/ray-parks-jr-reflects-move-japan

[blockman]

PBA stars might think about it and consider those offers, 1 season can bring decent paychecks which you can established good business for your future, instead of playing long years from PBA

It's really about their future and those that are serious with it, they'll take the offer and settle when they retire. But we don't know the retirement benefits from PBA. So they have to consider bigger paychecks on the present and settle when they're ready for it.
These offers really good to decline and that's why some of them have already went to B League and we know that it won't be stopping there because there will batches that shall take the offer as they're being scouted to play there.

[Viscore]

PBA stars might think about it and consider those offers, 1 season can bring decent paychecks which you can established good business for your future, instead of playing long years from PBA

It's really about their future and those that are serious with it, they'll take the offer and settle when they retire. But we don't know the retirement benefits from PBA. So they have to consider bigger paychecks on the present and settle when they're ready for it.
These offers really good to decline and that's why some of them have already went to B League and we know that it won't be stopping there because there will batches that shall take the offer as they're being scouted to play there.

The opportunity given to play with B-League is not for everyone, it's only for players that are extremely good so we will still see the PBA continue to exist. About the benefits, maybe there are more benefits when playing in the PBA but that is still lower compared to what an import will receive playing in B-League, and as long as they know how to manage their finances, they can certainly save money for the business to secure their future.

[Kelvinid]

PBA stars might think about it and consider those offers, 1 season can bring decent paychecks which you can established good business for your future, instead of playing long years from PBA

It's really about their future and those that are serious with it, they'll take the offer and settle when they retire. But we don't know the retirement benefits from PBA. So they have to consider bigger paychecks on the present and settle when they're ready for it.
These offers really good to decline and that's why some of them have already went to B League and we know that it won't be stopping there because there will batches that shall take the offer as they're being scouted to play there.

The opportunity given to play with B-League is not for everyone, it's only for players that are extremely good so we will still see the PBA continue to exist. About the benefits, maybe there are more benefits when playing in the PBA but that is still lower compared to what an import will receive playing in B-League, and as long as they know how to manage their finances, they can certainly save money for the business to secure their future.

Agree with that, the disparity of amount is too big, anyone who is in a clear state of mine will take that opportunity as PBA is not forever, you'll be traded when you gets old because that's a norm in the PBA. Meanwhile, Cabagnot is now an MPBL team owner.

read https://www.philstar.com/sports/2021/11/18/2142182/pba-star-alex-cabagnot-now-mpbl-team-owner

[blockman]

PBA stars might think about it and consider those offers, 1 season can bring decent paychecks which you can established good business for your future, instead of playing long years from PBA

It's really about their future and those that are serious with it, they'll take the offer and settle when they retire. But we don't know the retirement benefits from PBA. So they have to consider bigger paychecks on the present and settle when they're ready for it.
These offers really good to decline and that's why some of them have already went to B League and we know that it won't be stopping there because there will batches that shall take the offer as they're being scouted to play there.

The opportunity given to play with B-League is not for everyone, it's only for players that are extremely good so we will still see the PBA continue to exist. About the benefits, maybe there are more benefits when playing in the PBA but that is still lower compared to what an import will receive playing in B-League, and as long as they know how to manage their finances, they can certainly save money for the business to secure their future.

It goes for the experienced and Scouters think that will really contribute not just for the team that they will be set but as well as for the B League itself.
We don't like the trades that are happening despite staying with a team for so long. It's just really sad not only for the fans but mostly to the player that will be traded even if he's found being loyal to the team franchise.

[goaldigger]

PBA stars might think about it and consider those offers, 1 season can bring decent paychecks which you can established good business for your future, instead of playing long years from PBA

It's really about their future and those that are serious with it, they'll take the offer and settle when they retire. But we don't know the retirement benefits from PBA. So they have to consider bigger paychecks on the present and settle when they're ready for it.
These offers really good to decline and that's why some of them have already went to B League and we know that it won't be stopping there because there will batches that shall take the offer as they're being scouted to play there.

The opportunity given to play with B-League is not for everyone, it's only for players that are extremely good so we will still see the PBA continue to exist. About the benefits, maybe there are more benefits when playing in the PBA but that is still lower compared to what an import will receive playing in B-League, and as long as they know how to manage their finances, they can certainly save money for the business to secure their future.

Agree with that, the disparity of amount is too big, anyone who is in a clear state of mine will take that opportunity as PBA is not forever, you'll be traded when you gets old because that's a norm in the PBA. Meanwhile, Cabagnot is now an MPBL team owner.

read https://www.philstar.com/sports/2021/11/18/2142182/pba-star-alex-cabagnot-now-mpbl-team-owner

They have to learn from that experience and start venturing their profession since Basketball is not forever for them and having other source of income is good for them. Take every opportunity that they have while they are still young so that offer from Japan is a big thing. Yes, Cabagnot is already a team owner that means to me he knows how to handle his money and its really good for him.

[mirakal]

PBA stars might think about it and consider those offers, 1 season can bring decent paychecks which you can established good business for your future, instead of playing long years from PBA

It's really about their future and those that are serious with it, they'll take the offer and settle when they retire. But we don't know the retirement benefits from PBA. So they have to consider bigger paychecks on the present and settle when they're ready for it.
These offers really good to decline and that's why some of them have already went to B League and we know that it won't be stopping there because there will batches that shall take the offer as they're being scouted to play there.

The opportunity given to play with B-League is not for everyone, it's only for players that are extremely good so we will still see the PBA continue to exist. About the benefits, maybe there are more benefits when playing in the PBA but that is still lower compared to what an import will receive playing in B-League, and as long as they know how to manage their finances, they can certainly save money for the business to secure their future.

Agree with that, the disparity of amount is too big, anyone who is in a clear state of mine will take that opportunity as PBA is not forever, you'll be traded when you gets old because that's a norm in the PBA. Meanwhile, Cabagnot is now an MPBL team owner.

read https://www.philstar.com/sports/2021/11/18/2142182/pba-star-alex-cabagnot-now-mpbl-team-owner

They have to learn from that experience and start venturing their profession since Basketball is not forever for them and having other source of income is good for them. Take every opportunity that they have while they are still young so that offer from Japan is a big thing. Yes, Cabagnot is already a team owner that means to me he knows how to handle his money and its really good for him.

I'm not surprised about the news on Cabagnot as I saw his passion for coaching too. So by owning a team, he can develop his coaching ability and with the decreasing popularity of PBA, MPBL will surely become more popular as the format followed is like the NBA where a team represents a city or province.

I think there are plenty of PBA players who already ventured into business, some of the personalities I know are Jason Castro and Kiefer Ravena.
And others we can read here. https://www.spin.ph/life/guide/athlete-entrepreneurs-and-their-businesses-a1374-20181226-lfrm

[Fredomago]

I'm not surprised about the news on Cabagnot as I saw his passion for coaching too. So by owning a team, he can develop his coaching ability and with the decreasing popularity of PBA, MPBL will surely become more popular as the format followed is like the NBA where a team represents a city or province.

I think there are plenty of PBA players who already ventured into business, some of the personalities I know are Jason Castro and Kiefer Ravena.
And others we can read here. https://www.spin.ph/life/guide/athlete-entrepreneurs-and-their-businesses-a1374-20181226-lfrm

Very wise move, he knows that he might be on his retiring stage, by owning a team you will continue your passions with this sport, and the very benefits are the side where potential profits will flow coming from endorsements and sponsors. retiring stage is not the end but a new beginning where you will need to start venturing your out of the court life.

Good luck to Cabagnot and his team, hope it will be more successful after he acquires.

[LogitechMouse]

PBA stars might think about it and consider those offers, 1 season can bring decent paychecks which you can established good business for your future, instead of playing long years from PBA

It's really about their future and those that are serious with it, they'll take the offer and settle when they retire. But we don't know the retirement benefits from PBA. So they have to consider bigger paychecks on the present and settle when they're ready for it.
These offers really good to decline and that's why some of them have already went to B League and we know that it won't be stopping there because there will batches that shall take the offer as they're being scouted to play there.

The opportunity given to play with B-League is not for everyone, it's only for players that are extremely good so we will still see the PBA continue to exist. About the benefits, maybe there are more benefits when playing in the PBA but that is still lower compared to what an import will receive playing in B-League, and as long as they know how to manage their finances, they can certainly save money for the business to secure their future.

Agree with that, the disparity of amount is too big, anyone who is in a clear state of mine will take that opportunity as PBA is not forever, you'll be traded when you gets old because that's a norm in the PBA. Meanwhile, Cabagnot is now an MPBL team owner.

read https://www.philstar.com/sports/2021/11/18/2142182/pba-star-alex-cabagnot-now-mpbl-team-owner

They have to learn from that experience and start venturing their profession since Basketball is not forever for them and having other source of income is good for them. Take every opportunity that they have while they are still young so that offer from Japan is a big thing. Yes, Cabagnot is already a team owner that means to me he knows how to handle his money and its really good for him.

I'm not surprised about the news on Cabagnot as I saw his passion for coaching too. So by owning a team, he can develop his coaching ability and with the decreasing popularity of PBA, MPBL will surely become more popular as the format followed is like the NBA where a team represents a city or province.

I think there are plenty of PBA players who already ventured into business, some of the personalities I know are Jason Castro and Kiefer Ravena.
And others we can read here. https://www.spin.ph/life/guide/athlete-entrepreneurs-and-their-businesses-a1374-20181226-lfrm

When you're whole life the only thing that you're doing is basketball and when it is your passion then they will always find a way just to let themselves involve to the thing they love.
Its always good to see a player turning into a owner of the team or a part of the team management. Some are just having a business whatsoever.

I expect these old players of PBA to follow him maybe or will try to be a part of the team management. With Cabagnot owning a team, he can always share his experiences to his players. He is the captain of SMB back when they are dominating the league and with his experiences, many players will learn from him. GL to him