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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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October 02, 2022, 06:32:35 AM
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I'm really amazed at this new team Converge. Even on their debut at the last conference they really show competitiveness against any teams in the league. I see this team will be one of the independent teams that will soon rise to the top if they maintain that kind of performance.

Hopefully, they will be able to maintain the competitiveness that they are showing now, with how the rotations have been design I really believe that the coach influence is really something that will bring this team to a much higher position in this league.

Though it's too early to conclude their fate, they have a lot of games to come, building and establishing chemistries do need time and practices, most of the players are still young and with how coach Ayo is towering his young cores, I can see them resurrecting the original /former franchise owner Alaska milk. Hope to see them winning a title.

So the locals has to step up the game and not allow that 10 point deficit to stop them as they made a huge comeback and maintain their composure to took the game away from Converge. But still they have to check what's wrong with their import, yes this is a win, but in other games, they will really have to rely to their import to seal the win for them in close games.

Impressive adjustment by the locals to help with that late rally run sealed the win.

However, in terms of roster comparison, Magnolia shouldn't be supposed to be shown struggling against Converge.

If things will always end like that, they will surely have a hard time winning against top teams.

The reason why they win the game, because of the locals as even Converge's import is really bringing them big damage, good thing that the locals of Magnolia performs well and help their struggling import, they snatch the win in the last few minutes of the game. But yes, Magnolia's locals are far superior to the young roster of Converge.

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October 02, 2022, 07:30:41 AM
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I guess Magnolia will win this game. Stockton made a bad move with a poor foul on Paul Lee although there's still enough time left, and with that, it resulted in a two-possession ball game, it could have been an interesting game, but converge is not a clutch team, too bad.

They won the game, 105-109 was the score.

Converge import is good, but without good support from the locals, he cannot win for the team.
He scored 38 points but most of the locals are struggling in the game, unlike the Magnolia who has big contributions from the locals, so the import is not carrying a heavy burden.

Here are the locals who contributed big to this win.

Jalalon 15 pts
Barroca 19 pts
Lee 20 pts
Sanggalang 10 pts
Abueva 10 pts.

You said that right and accurately dude, teamwork is still really important and you shouldn't just rely on imports or anyone they think is the best. Because no matter how good it is if a team does not have teamwork, the chance to win for sure will not be achieved. But if all the members of the team have a good connection with each other and all contribute, it is also certain that there is a high chance that they will win the match.

And that's exactly what happened in this battle between the two teams. That's why it's really good that everyone brings the team, not just one brings a team.

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October 02, 2022, 09:21:26 AM
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I guess Magnolia will win this game. Stockton made a bad move with a poor foul on Paul Lee although there's still enough time left, and with that, it resulted in a two-possession ball game, it could have been an interesting game, but converge is not a clutch team, too bad.

They won the game, 105-109 was the score.

Converge import is good, but without good support from the locals, he cannot win for the team.
He scored 38 points but most of the locals are struggling in the game, unlike the Magnolia who has big contributions from the locals, so the import is not carrying a heavy burden.

Here are the locals who contributed big to this win.

Jalalon 15 pts
Barroca 19 pts
Lee 20 pts
Sanggalang 10 pts
Abueva 10 pts.

You said that right and accurately dude, teamwork is still really important and you shouldn't just rely on imports or anyone they think is the best. Because no matter how good it is if a team does not have teamwork, the chance to win for sure will not be achieved. But if all the members of the team have a good connection with each other and all contribute, it is also certain that there is a high chance that they will win the match.

And that's exactly what happened in this battle between the two teams. That's why it's really good that everyone brings the team, not just one brings a team.

On some teams, they have only one person whom they consider as their superstar and he is the one making most of the production, however, with Magnolia, it's quite different as we know their system, they prioritize their teamwork over individual production. Congrats to them, this team is a good team to bet with.

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October 02, 2022, 10:48:53 AM
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Here we go, we will not see the last game of the day.

Ginebra vs Ginebra, both teams lose in their previous matches, but I'm seeing here that Ginebra is going to bounce back strong, so I'm backing them to win. Right now, they are -3.5 to win, and since it's Sunday, I hope the crowd will be able to help them.



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On some teams, they have only one person whom they consider as their superstar and he is the one making most of the production, however, with Magnolia, it's quite different as we know their system, they prioritize their teamwork over individual production. Congrats to them, this team is a good team to bet with.

A kind of a working system that is being developed thru time, chemistries that entrusted one another by making the ball to rotate and find the open man. Though sometimes they are relying much on how Lee will play and they are all affected when he does not have a good shooting percentage, but once they play the running game and that tight defense, they are managing to overrun their opponents.

They are on top one game away from the visiting team. If they continue playing solid though, they are not playing yet against the heavyweights. Still a long way to move forward to the next round.

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October 02, 2022, 11:13:54 AM
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Here we go, we will not see the last game of the day.

Ginebra vs Ginebra, both teams lose in their previous matches, but I'm seeing here that Ginebra is going to bounce back strong, so I'm backing them to win. Right now, they are -3.5 to win, and since it's Sunday, I hope the crowd will be able to help them.

Brownlee vs O'bryant, it's a great matchup, A bigger O'bryant vs Brownlee, but for sure Brownlee will not back down. It's nice seeing this competitive teams playing against each other. Ginebra had a good lead early but Meralco is catching up I think it's going to be a close game.

Anyway, good luck on your bet, that's doable.

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October 02, 2022, 11:21:54 AM
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Here we go, we will not see the last game of the day.

Ginebra vs Ginebra, both teams lose in their previous matches, but I'm seeing here that Ginebra is going to bounce back strong, so I'm backing them to win. Right now, they are -3.5 to win, and since it's Sunday, I hope the crowd will be able to help them.

Brownlee vs O'bryant, it's a great matchup, A bigger O'bryant vs Brownlee, but for sure Brownlee will not back down. It's nice seeing this competitive teams playing against each other. Ginebra had a good lead early but Meralco is catching up I think it's going to be a close game.

Anyway, good luck on your bet, that's doable.

I'm watching the game now, it's very entertaining and I'm liking it because Ginebra is still ahead. I know it's going to be a close game but all I like is for Ginebra to win by at least 4 points. Grin....

Waiting also in live, if Ginebra will be down by many points, I might take the ML as long as it's 3.00 and above.



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October 02, 2022, 11:49:39 AM
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Here we go, we will not see the last game of the day.

Ginebra vs Ginebra, both teams lose in their previous matches, but I'm seeing here that Ginebra is going to bounce back strong, so I'm backing them to win. Right now, they are -3.5 to win, and since it's Sunday, I hope the crowd will be able to help them.

Brownlee vs O'bryant, it's a great matchup, A bigger O'bryant vs Brownlee, but for sure Brownlee will not back down. It's nice seeing this competitive teams playing against each other. Ginebra had a good lead early but Meralco is catching up I think it's going to be a close game.

Anyway, good luck on your bet, that's doable.

I'm watching the game now, it's very entertaining and I'm liking it because Ginebra is still ahead. I know it's going to be a close game but all I like is for Ginebra to win by at least 4 points. Grin....

Waiting also in live, if Ginebra will be down by many points, I might take the ML as long as it's 3.00 and above.

Don't forget, Pringle is also back, so Ginebra is still a very dangerous team. I hope they'll have their first win in this conference, they are leading so far, so it's a good sign that they will win this game. It's a low-scoring game, maybe this would favor them.

Pringle by the way has 9 points so far, he is the 2nd leading scorer, next to Brownlee.

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October 02, 2022, 11:59:31 AM
Last edit: October 02, 2022, 01:09:00 PM by bisdak40
 #9329

Don't forget, Pringle is also back, so Ginebra is still a very dangerous team. I hope they'll have their first win in this conference, they are leading so far, so it's a good sign that they will win this game. It's a low-scoring game, maybe this would favor them.

Pringle by the way has 9 points so far, he is the 2nd leading scorer, next to Brownlee.

Good game by Brownlee and Pringle so far but the Bolts are not letting them go so I'm taking this risky bet now, Meralco Bolts +6.5 @1.85 as I think O'Bryant will gonna explode in the second half and make the game as close as possible or take the win.

Score is 49-41, Ginebra leading by 8 points.

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Lose my bet, good game by Brownlee and a lot of missed free throws from the Meralco Bolts that could have made the game close.

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October 02, 2022, 12:03:33 PM
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Don't forget, Pringle is also back, so Ginebra is still a very dangerous team. I hope they'll have their first win in this conference, they are leading so far, so it's a good sign that they will win this game. It's a low-scoring game, maybe this would favor them.

Pringle by the way has 9 points so far, he is the 2nd leading scorer, next to Brownlee.

It is half time and Ginebra is ahead by 8 points. They are performing well in the first half but usually, there are big adjustments in the second half.

In their last game, Meralco was very sluggish in the second half, thus they lost against Northport after not being able to take good care of their huge lead. They are starting slow this time. Hopefully, they have enough energy in the 2nd half to come back from this game.

Ginebra though started well after their poor performance in their last game. Ginebra is still heavily favored to win this game. If they continue their momentum to the 2nd half, they will surely win this game.
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October 02, 2022, 12:30:04 PM
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Don't forget, Pringle is also back, so Ginebra is still a very dangerous team. I hope they'll have their first win in this conference, they are leading so far, so it's a good sign that they will win this game. It's a low-scoring game, maybe this would favor them.

Pringle by the way has 9 points so far, he is the 2nd leading scorer, next to Brownlee.

Good game by Brownlee and Pringle so far but the Bolts are not letting them go so I'm taking this risky bet now, Meralco Bolts +6.5 @1.85 as I think O'Bryant will gonna explode in the second half and make the game as close as possible or take the win.

Score is 49-41, Ginebra leading by 8 points.
Ginebra is taking care of the lead but it's not a big lead so there's still a chance for Meralco to take over the lead this can happen only if Ginebra failed to be consistent. It's good to see other players contributing as well with their best import, it looks like Brownlee can't take this game alone. Ginebra is still a team to beat, they are strong as a team and they should play as a team, I'm confident they can take this first win at the cost of Meralco there's no other way for them but to win.

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October 02, 2022, 12:34:29 PM
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Don't forget, Pringle is also back, so Ginebra is still a very dangerous team. I hope they'll have their first win in this conference, they are leading so far, so it's a good sign that they will win this game. It's a low-scoring game, maybe this would favor them.

Pringle by the way has 9 points so far, he is the 2nd leading scorer, next to Brownlee.

Good game by Brownlee and Pringle so far but the Bolts are not letting them go so I'm taking this risky bet now, Meralco Bolts +6.5 @1.85 as I think O'Bryant will gonna explode in the second half and make the game as close as possible or take the win.

Score is 49-41, Ginebra leading by 8 points.
Ginebra is taking care of the lead but it's not a big lead so there's still a chance for Meralco to take over the lead this can happen only if Ginebra failed to be consistent. It's good to see other players contributing as well with their best import, it looks like Brownlee can't take this game alone. Ginebra is still a team to beat, they are strong as a team and they should play as a team, I'm confident they can take this first win at the cost of Meralco there's no other way for them but to win.
Meralco had a strong start in the 3rd quarter but Ginebra finish it strong.

We are now in the 4th quarter and Ginebra is having a double-digit lead already.
We know how good Ginebra is in the 4th quarter, once they have a good run, they will not let their opponent catch up and most of the time the game will end in a big margin win.

So @Yamifoud, looks like you have a big win tonight.

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October 02, 2022, 01:12:56 PM
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Don't forget, Pringle is also back, so Ginebra is still a very dangerous team. I hope they'll have their first win in this conference, they are leading so far, so it's a good sign that they will win this game. It's a low-scoring game, maybe this would favor them.

Pringle by the way has 9 points so far, he is the 2nd leading scorer, next to Brownlee.

Good game by Brownlee and Pringle so far but the Bolts are not letting them go so I'm taking this risky bet now, Meralco Bolts +6.5 @1.85 as I think O'Bryant will gonna explode in the second half and make the game as close as possible or take the win.

Score is 49-41, Ginebra leading by 8 points.
Ginebra is taking care of the lead but it's not a big lead so there's still a chance for Meralco to take over the lead this can happen only if Ginebra failed to be consistent. It's good to see other players contributing as well with their best import, it looks like Brownlee can't take this game alone. Ginebra is still a team to beat, they are strong as a team and they should play as a team, I'm confident they can take this first win at the cost of Meralco there's no other way for them but to win.
Meralco had a strong start in the 3rd quarter but Ginebra finish it strong.

We are now in the 4th quarter and Ginebra is having a double-digit lead already.
We know how good Ginebra is in the 4th quarter, once they have a good run, they will not let their opponent catch up and most of the time the game will end in a big margin win.

So @Yamifoud, looks like you have a big win tonight.

Congratulations guys, Ginebra won the game and covered the spread.

The final score is 91-99.

The top scorer for Ginebra is Justin Brownlee with 34 points, a major bounce back from his performance in their previous game.
Nice game, Ginebra has a good shot at winning the championship, big thanks that Pringle is also back plus they have Malonzo.

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October 02, 2022, 04:28:12 PM
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Congratulations guys, Ginebra won the game and covered the spread.

The final score is 91-99.

The top scorer for Ginebra is Justin Brownlee with 34 points, a major bounce back from his performance in their previous game.
Nice game, Ginebra has a good shot at winning the championship, big thanks that Pringle is also back plus they have Malonzo.

Nice bounce for Brownlee. He carries the team in winning the game, though his support cast is always there to help. Congrats to all Gin kings backers handicap is fully covered a nice recover loss from the first game, I'm sure that one is really less expected by both fans and gamblers, but now, they've got Pringle back and Brownlee is really doing the usual routine.

Together with the entire core of Ginebra they are doing the damage, and I also see that Malonzo is jiving now with how the team is playing the game. He's helping both sides.

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October 02, 2022, 09:36:17 PM
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Congratulations guys, Ginebra won the game and covered the spread.

The final score is 91-99.

The top scorer for Ginebra is Justin Brownlee with 34 points, a major bounce back from his performance in their previous game.
Nice game, Ginebra has a good shot at winning the championship, big thanks that Pringle is also back plus they have Malonzo.
Congrats everyone and to Ginebra.
Also, those that have mocked Justin Brownlee about him being suggested to be part of the Gilas pool, look at the guy just trying to prove himself that he's really still able to be the guy we used to know.

Together with the entire core of Ginebra they are doing the damage, and I also see that Malonzo is jiving now with how the team is playing the game. He's helping both sides.
Yeah, good job on how he performed. Ginebra is using him just the way that he has been taken by them, a good catch as usual by Ginebra. On Wednesday, it's exciting, Bay Area Dragons versus SMB.

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October 02, 2022, 09:39:10 PM
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Congratulations guys, Ginebra won the game and covered the spread.

The final score is 91-99.

The top scorer for Ginebra is Justin Brownlee with 34 points, a major bounce back from his performance in their previous game.
Nice game, Ginebra has a good shot at winning the championship, big thanks that Pringle is also back plus they have Malonzo.
Congrats everyone and to Ginebra.
Also, those that have mocked Justin Brownlee about him being suggested to be part of the Gilas pool, look at the guy just trying to prove himself that he's really still able to be the guy we used to know.
There’s no doubt about the skills of Brownlee and for this game, he proves to be dominant again despite some problem on the early quarter. Ginebra did won though it’s hard game for them but still, a win is a win. Their next game will be more exciting as the team Ginebra is already getting the rhythm of playing all together again.
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October 02, 2022, 10:15:18 PM
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Congratulations guys, Ginebra won the game and covered the spread.

The final score is 91-99.

The top scorer for Ginebra is Justin Brownlee with 34 points, a major bounce back from his performance in their previous game.
Nice game, Ginebra has a good shot at winning the championship, big thanks that Pringle is also back plus they have Malonzo.
Congrats everyone and to Ginebra.
Also, those that have mocked Justin Brownlee about him being suggested to be part of the Gilas pool, look at the guy just trying to prove himself that he's really still able to be the guy we used to know.
There’s no doubt about the skills of Brownlee and for this game, he proves to be dominant again despite some problem on the early quarter. Ginebra did won though it’s hard game for them but still, a win is a win. Their next game will be more exciting as the team Ginebra is already getting the rhythm of playing all together again.
It became a thing when there have been topics if Brownlee should be added to the pool and many have said that he's not anymore as strong as he was before.
But on this game, he just proven himself to those doubters and unbelievers of him. He's still what it got to be a good candidate though although, the decision won't be coming from the fans but the usual SBP that many hates already.

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October 02, 2022, 10:19:39 PM
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It became a thing when there have been topics if Brownlee should be added to the pool and many have said that he's not anymore as strong as he was before.
But on this game, he just proven himself to those doubters and unbelievers of him. He's still what it got to be a good candidate though although, the decision won't be coming from the fans but the usual SBP that many hates already.
This actually depend on the Senate if they will pass a bill to naturalize Brownlee, this has been the topic since then and I think SBP can't handle this thing, they can only endorse this but still the decision will depend on the higher courts. Brownlee did a great job in PBA history, and being with Ginebra I think he can still do more. The game against Meralco was a great one and they will face bigger teams ahead of the competition, they should not be complacent though since this is just their first win.

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October 02, 2022, 10:49:41 PM
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It became a thing when there have been topics if Brownlee should be added to the pool and many have said that he's not anymore as strong as he was before.
But on this game, he just proven himself to those doubters and unbelievers of him. He's still what it got to be a good candidate though although, the decision won't be coming from the fans but the usual SBP that many hates already.
This actually depend on the Senate if they will pass a bill to naturalize Brownlee, this has been the topic since then and I think SBP can't handle this thing, they can only endorse this but still the decision will depend on the higher courts. Brownlee did a great job in PBA history, and being with Ginebra I think he can still do more. The game against Meralco was a great one and they will face bigger teams ahead of the competition, they should not be complacent though since this is just their first win.

He is aging though, if they still want to naturalize Brownlee they should act now. He still has a few good years to give to basketball and he is a good addition to the pool since he is already familiar with Filipino brand of basketball. There would be very little to no adjustment for him.

His game would start to degrade soon so the best time for him to join Gilas is now. But looking at how they are always tentative on this, they might miss this window.
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October 02, 2022, 10:55:33 PM
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It became a thing when there have been topics if Brownlee should be added to the pool and many have said that he's not anymore as strong as he was before.
But on this game, he just proven himself to those doubters and unbelievers of him. He's still what it got to be a good candidate though although, the decision won't be coming from the fans but the usual SBP that many hates already.
This actually depend on the Senate if they will pass a bill to naturalize Brownlee, this has been the topic since then and I think SBP can't handle this thing, they can only endorse this but still the decision will depend on the higher courts. Brownlee did a great job in PBA history, and being with Ginebra I think he can still do more. The game against Meralco was a great one and they will face bigger teams ahead of the competition, they should not be complacent though since this is just their first win.
Plus, Brownlee is willing to contribute and be part of the pool but again, all of the decisions will rely onto those that are on high.
I forgot that the Ginebra would also be needed to ask if they're going to let it happen since it's also known that during the previous months in the hotness of Gilas games, some teams didn't allowed their players to be part of it. But hopefully, that when the next window will happen for Gilas games, they'll allow him and the senate has already pushed that bill for his naturalization.

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