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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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October 08, 2022, 09:23:41 PM
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Can't believe though that bookies really looked down at Ginebra against Bay Area Dragons. I know well and understand the capability of this guest team but Ginebra giving a @4 odds is like the game tomorrow between these two is really a considered mismatch.

I hope BGSM will be the first one to defeat this guest team. Smiley
Because of the good standing of Bay Area, the odds are in favor to them but we should not underestimate Ginebra because we know that they are the good team and having that odds is really hard to pass. The crowd will be there and for sure Ginebra will do it’s best to get another win, Bay Area should be more prepared for this since most of their games are very close which put them at a bigger risk of losing against Ginebra.
Is the odds serious? It looks like Ginebra is the underdog here. Well, we cannot blame that odds because of the standing of Ginebra and Bay area, there a big gap between this two but out of respect to Ginebra, it should be a more good odds. This is a good opportunity for the supporter of Ginebra to place a bet, many believes that they can really beat Bay Area and there is no doubt for that. This will be an exciting match, the crowd will boost more the Ginebra and it can result to a good game.
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October 08, 2022, 10:23:13 PM
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Ginebra vs. Bay Area on Sunday. I'm hoping that this will be the time where the arena will be filled with Ginebra Fans like how they are during the playoffs. I'm also thinking on who will defend the 7'5" player of the Dragons Cheesy.

No one can defend him but Ginebra will just make a good strategy to make him useless, a fast pace game will be very much suitable in this kind of game, and we know Brownlee can explode and they have Pringle who is already back, so it will be a good game.

I have not watched the game of Bay Area Dragons lately, but in the first few games that I watched, the 7'5" center is not their starter. He is a bench player and only plays for a few minutes. Bolick drove through him once like he was nothing. So, I think he is not the main problem for Ginebra. Their main problem is their shooter and guards. They are quick and explosive. Their 3s are on point. If it becomes a 3-point shootout, it will be very problematic for Ginebra.

Meanwhile, have you see the TNT vs NP? That was crazy, huge bounc back by TNT and they dominated the NP.
Also, Pogoy made 8-9 in the 3 point area, this guy is really unconscious, I think he will be the next best star player in the team, not Williams.

He is taking over since Castro is out. He has always been a good player and he is showing now that he can lead the team. Williams is a good player, but Pogoy is much more dependable, especially lately. When Pogoy exploded and Northport can't find a way to stop him, they just gave up. NP lose their will to fight, and the game became lopsided. It was a good bounce-back win for TNT after their controversial loss against Magnolia.

Is the odds serious? It looks like Ginebra is the underdog here. Well, we cannot blame that odds because of the standing of Ginebra and Bay area, there a big gap between this two but out of respect to Ginebra, it should be a more good odds. This is a good opportunity for the supporter of Ginebra to place a bet, many believes that they can really beat Bay Area and there is no doubt for that. This will be an exciting match, the crowd will boost more the Ginebra and it can result to a good game.

The odd is down to @3 now for Ginebra but still a good odd if you are a true supporter of Ginebra. It may still go down later if more bets come in for Ginebra.
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October 08, 2022, 10:35:11 PM
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Is the odds serious? It looks like Ginebra is the underdog here. Well, we cannot blame that odds because of the standing of Ginebra and Bay area, there a big gap between this two but out of respect to Ginebra, it should be a more good odds. This is a good opportunity for the supporter of Ginebra to place a bet, many believes that they can really beat Bay Area and there is no doubt for that. This will be an exciting match, the crowd will boost more the Ginebra and it can result to a good game.

The odd is down to @3 now for Ginebra but still a good odd if you are a true supporter of Ginebra. It may still go down later if more bets come in for Ginebra.
That's an attractive odds to bet with, we know how capable Ginebra is and I'm sure they can give another hard game for Bay Area, this will not be an easy win for both teams. I'll place some bet with Ginebra because I know they are eager to joing the winning column since they are already behind by many games, I wonder why their schedule is like this compare to other team. Few more hours we will see them playing, it's more exciting if you place a bet.

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October 09, 2022, 11:50:18 AM
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Is the odds serious? It looks like Ginebra is the underdog here. Well, we cannot blame that odds because of the standing of Ginebra and Bay area, there a big gap between this two but out of respect to Ginebra, it should be a more good odds. This is a good opportunity for the supporter of Ginebra to place a bet, many believes that they can really beat Bay Area and there is no doubt for that. This will be an exciting match, the crowd will boost more the Ginebra and it can result to a good game.

The odd is down to @3 now for Ginebra but still a good odd if you are a true supporter of Ginebra. It may still go down later if more bets come in for Ginebra.
That's an attractive odds to bet with, we know how capable Ginebra is and I'm sure they can give another hard game for Bay Area, this will not be an easy win for both teams. I'll place some bet with Ginebra because I know they are eager to joing the winning column since they are already behind by many games, I wonder why their schedule is like this compare to other team. Few more hours we will see them playing, it's more exciting if you place a bet.

Tied game and really an exciting match between Gin kings and the visiting team is still early in the 2nd quarter but seems that the home pride is really making a hard game for the Bay area, they are now competing with the real team of the PBA. No longer an exhibition for them, Gin kings are making them feel that the PH team is not as easy as they think we are.

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Though too early to celebrate, 44-41 now still early and we will see till the end of this game, surely PBA fans are all eyes with the current game.

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October 09, 2022, 12:04:50 PM
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Tied game and really an exciting match between Gin kings and the visiting team is still early in the 2nd quarter but seems that the home pride is really making a hard game for the Bay area, they are now competing with the real team of the PBA. No longer an exhibition for them, Gin kings are making them feel that the PH team is not as easy as they think we are.

update:
Though too early to celebrate, 44-41 now still early and we will see till the end of this game, surely PBA fans are all eyes with the current game.

Exciting game indeed especially if you have put an ML bet for Barangay Ginebra. Brownlee keeps the Kings afloat with his 26 first-half points, oh man, if this would continue he will be having a 40+ game tonight, the average points for most of the imports this conference. Nicholson also has a good game for the Bay Area, registering 26 points.

50-48 is the score after two-quarters of run-and-gun basketball with Ginebra having a slim 2 points lead.

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October 09, 2022, 12:06:19 PM
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Great game so far, Brownlee is coking again with already 26 points in the first half.

I think we will see that Bay Area Dragons will not anymore be undefeated after tonight.
So far, it's a very entertaining game and I like the starting 5 of Ginebra due to their good defense.

Exciting 2nd half is coming soon.  Grin

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October 09, 2022, 12:17:56 PM
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Great game so far, Brownlee is coking again with already 26 points in the first half.

I think we will see that Bay Area Dragons will not anymore be undefeated after tonight.
So far, it's a very entertaining game and I like the starting 5 of Ginebra due to their good defense.

Exciting 2nd half is coming soon.  Grin
This is still a crucial game, the first half was a close game and going to the 2nd half, the score is tied as of posting.
Ginebra should not be complacent here and stay focus with the game, Brownlee needs the help of the local players, and let's see if they can beat Bay Area. There's still plenty of time to play, Bay Area wont give up easily but of course, I also support Ginebra here it's just that, the game is too close to be complacent.

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October 09, 2022, 12:20:24 PM
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Great game so far, Brownlee is coking again with already 26 points in the first half.

I think we will see that Bay Area Dragons will not anymore be undefeated after tonight.
So far, it's a very entertaining game and I like the starting 5 of Ginebra due to their good defense.

Exciting 2nd half is coming soon.  Grin

3rd quarter is just starting. It depends if they get a good start on this quarter, Ginebra may win this game. They are playing really good specially brownlee. Malonzo is also putting up good work in defense and offense.

I think Myles Powell is a better fit for the Dragons. They have enough big men that can defend and score in the paint. Without Myles Power, their backcourt becomes a little bit weaker. Also, Powell spread the defense because he is an offensive juggernaut. He can drive when the lane is open, and he can score 3s when needed.

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October 09, 2022, 12:33:52 PM
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Great game so far, Brownlee is coking again with already 26 points in the first half.

I think we will see that Bay Area Dragons will not anymore be undefeated after tonight.
So far, it's a very entertaining game and I like the starting 5 of Ginebra due to their good defense.

Exciting 2nd half is coming soon.  Grin

3rd quarter is just starting. It depends if they get a good start on this quarter, Ginebra may win this game. They are playing really good specially brownlee. Malonzo is also putting up good work in defense and offense.

I think Myles Powell is a better fit for the Dragons. They have enough big men that can defend and score in the paint. Without Myles Power, their backcourt becomes a little bit weaker. Also, Powell spread the defense because he is an offensive juggernaut. He can drive when the lane is open, and he can score 3s when needed.



Big 3rd quarter run but Bay Area put their big center on the floor, let's see how Ginebra will adjust and still win the 3rd quarter. I'm confident now that Ginebra will win as no one can stop Justin Brownlee, I would not be surprise if he scores 50 points tonight.

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October 09, 2022, 01:09:49 PM
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Great game so far, Brownlee is coking again with already 26 points in the first half.

I think we will see that Bay Area Dragons will not anymore be undefeated after tonight.
So far, it's a very entertaining game and I like the starting 5 of Ginebra due to their good defense.

Exciting 2nd half is coming soon.  Grin

3rd quarter is just starting. It depends if they get a good start on this quarter, Ginebra may win this game. They are playing really good specially brownlee. Malonzo is also putting up good work in defense and offense.

I think Myles Powell is a better fit for the Dragons. They have enough big men that can defend and score in the paint. Without Myles Power, their backcourt becomes a little bit weaker. Also, Powell spread the defense because he is an offensive juggernaut. He can drive when the lane is open, and he can score 3s when needed.



Big 3rd quarter run but Bay Area put their big center on the floor, let's see how Ginebra will adjust and still win the 3rd quarter. I'm confident now that Ginebra will win as no one can stop Justin Brownlee, I would not be surprise if he scores 50 points tonight.

Congratulations to the Ginebra Gin Kings, that wasn't the game that we are expecting, the absence of Myles Powell was really huge for the team, and hopefully they will learn that Ginebra is not an easy team to beat, it's just a happy night for me as I also won my bet on this game.



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October 09, 2022, 01:10:53 PM
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Great game so far, Brownlee is coking again with already 26 points in the first half.

I think we will see that Bay Area Dragons will not anymore be undefeated after tonight.
So far, it's a very entertaining game and I like the starting 5 of Ginebra due to their good defense.

Exciting 2nd half is coming soon.  Grin

3rd quarter is just starting. It depends if they get a good start on this quarter, Ginebra may win this game. They are playing really good specially brownlee. Malonzo is also putting up good work in defense and offense.

I think Myles Powell is a better fit for the Dragons. They have enough big men that can defend and score in the paint. Without Myles Power, their backcourt becomes a little bit weaker. Also, Powell spread the defense because he is an offensive juggernaut. He can drive when the lane is open, and he can score 3s when needed.



Big 3rd quarter run but Bay Area put their big center on the floor, let's see how Ginebra will adjust and still win the 3rd quarter. I'm confident now that Ginebra will win as no one can stop Justin Brownlee, I would not be surprise if he scores 50 points tonight.

You are right mate, Bay Area Dragons are not undefeated anymore, thanks to Justin Brownlee's hot shooting as he leads the Kings to a blowout win against tough and gutsy visitors. Justin Brownlee was 6 points shy of scoring 50 points tonight but nevertheless, a win is a win, and thanks to him that odds of 4.03 made some bettors a few dollars richer tonight.

PBA fans are already anticipating the match between the Beermen and the Dragons as they want to see if the Beermen could also slay the Dragons from the Bay Area.

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October 09, 2022, 01:57:24 PM
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Congratulations to the Ginebra Gin Kings, that wasn't the game that we are expecting, the absence of Myles Powell was really huge for the team, and hopefully they will learn that Ginebra is not an easy team to beat, it's just a happy night for me as I also won my bet on this game.

With Blankley not hitting his 3-pointers and the other outside shooters not getting their usual output, they really miss the production of Myles Powell. I think they missed 19 3-pointers at least. Without Powell creating outside or driving inside to draw defenders, they have a hard time getting their output. We can also consider that the Dragons are adjusting to their new import thus resulting in their poor performance. That poor performance was taken advantage of by Ginebra who performed very well.

Congratulations to Ginebra backers. It's payday for them. If they caught the @4 odds, it's quite a big win.
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October 09, 2022, 03:45:35 PM
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Great game so far, Brownlee is coking again with already 26 points in the first half.

I think we will see that Bay Area Dragons will not anymore be undefeated after tonight.
So far, it's a very entertaining game and I like the starting 5 of Ginebra due to their good defense.

Exciting 2nd half is coming soon.  Grin

3rd quarter is just starting. It depends if they get a good start on this quarter, Ginebra may win this game. They are playing really good specially brownlee. Malonzo is also putting up good work in defense and offense.

I think Myles Powell is a better fit for the Dragons. They have enough big men that can defend and score in the paint. Without Myles Power, their backcourt becomes a little bit weaker. Also, Powell spread the defense because he is an offensive juggernaut. He can drive when the lane is open, and he can score 3s when needed.



Big 3rd quarter run but Bay Area put their big center on the floor, let's see how Ginebra will adjust and still win the 3rd quarter. I'm confident now that Ginebra will win as no one can stop Justin Brownlee, I would not be surprise if he scores 50 points tonight.

You are right mate, Bay Area Dragons are not undefeated anymore, thanks to Justin Brownlee's hot shooting as he leads the Kings to a blowout win against tough and gutsy visitors. Justin Brownlee was 6 points shy of scoring 50 points tonight but nevertheless, a win is a win, and thanks to him that odds of 4.03 made some bettors a few dollars richer tonight.

PBA fans are already anticipating the match between the Beermen and the Dragons as they want to see if the Beermen could also slay the Dragons from the Bay Area.



Big credit to Brownlee as he really lead the Gin kings to win this game, though not just him but the complete pack! they are really familiar with each other and the system of coach Tim works well. I'm sure a lot of bettors win huge today, ML or handicap all are fully covered by the fans' favorite team.

Congrats "Ka-Barranggay" Bay Area is no longer in a winning streak as they are now starting to face the super teams.

Magnolia, TNT and SMB let see if how they will adjust when facing these 3 more known super team from the league,.

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October 09, 2022, 08:54:43 PM
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Big credit to Brownlee as he really lead the Gin kings to win this game, though not just him but the complete pack! they are really familiar with each other and the system of coach Tim works well. I'm sure a lot of bettors win huge today, ML or handicap all are fully covered by the fans' favorite team.
Lucky to those who are able to grab the good odds yesterday, Ginebra really did well to beat the Bay Area. Though it looks like Bay Area is having trouble dealing with their new import and still on the adjustment period, they should play better if they want to win against the remaining top teams, this might be the start of their losing streak. Congratulations to everyone, Ginebra didn’t disappoint this time!

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October 09, 2022, 10:23:39 PM
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Big credit to Brownlee as he really lead the Gin kings to win this game, though not just him but the complete pack! they are really familiar with each other and the system of coach Tim works well. I'm sure a lot of bettors win huge today, ML or handicap all are fully covered by the fans' favorite team.
Lucky to those who are able to grab the good odds yesterday, Ginebra really did well to beat the Bay Area. Though it looks like Bay Area is having trouble dealing with their new import and still on the adjustment period, they should play better if they want to win against the remaining top teams, this might be the start of their losing streak. Congratulations to everyone, Ginebra didn’t disappoint this time!
That was a great game and a great profit as well with a great odds. This is why we should not underestimate Ginebra with that odds, Bay Area suffer on their first loss and probably the next games will be more hard for them as they face top teams in PBA. I watched the game and Brownlee really explode the whole game, it's also good other players to get more involve, Coach Tim really did well on scouting Bay Area, it's finally good to see Ginebra their usual game.

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October 09, 2022, 11:44:28 PM
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Alright, Ginebra beat the Bay Area Dragons! It's now only Magnolia that hasn't lost any game and the Dragons have already 1 lost one for this conference.
I don't know but why it seems that we are all celebrating just this 1 win against the Bay Area Dragons. I think that our minds are collaborating and really want them to lose to any team. This is a boost for the Ginkings and as well as for the other teams that these Dragons won't always be as what we're expecting to be.

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October 10, 2022, 12:40:37 AM
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Big credit to Brownlee as he really lead the Gin kings to win this game, though not just him but the complete pack! they are really familiar with each other and the system of coach Tim works well. I'm sure a lot of bettors win huge today, ML or handicap all are fully covered by the fans' favorite team.
Lucky to those who are able to grab the good odds yesterday, Ginebra really did well to beat the Bay Area. Though it looks like Bay Area is having trouble dealing with their new import and still on the adjustment period, they should play better if they want to win against the remaining top teams, this might be the start of their losing streak. Congratulations to everyone, Ginebra didn’t disappoint this time!
That was a great game and a great profit as well with a great odds. This is why we should not underestimate Ginebra with that odds, Bay Area suffer on their first loss and probably the next games will be more hard for them as they face top teams in PBA. I watched the game and Brownlee really explode the whole game, it's also good other players to get more involve, Coach Tim really did well on scouting Bay Area, it's finally good to see Ginebra their usual game.


I like that comment coach Tim did his job well for bringing that tight defense, Bay Area feels the pressures and it really the battle of protecting the boards, the locals of Bay area against the locals of gin kings it's a good match up and it was a pride for the pinoy fans especially for the brgy fans.

Now that the Bay Area has been exposed they have to think back if they needed to bring Powell back, Nicholson is good, but PBA super teams also have Big men who can help in protecting the boards and play tough defense.

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October 10, 2022, 04:14:20 AM
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Alright, Ginebra beat the Bay Area Dragons! It's now only Magnolia that hasn't lost any game and the Dragons have already 1 lost one for this conference.
I don't know but why it seems that we are all celebrating just this 1 win against the Bay Area Dragons. I think that our minds are collaborating and really want them to lose to any team. This is a boost for the Ginkings and as well as for the other teams that these Dragons won't always be as what we're expecting to be.

They are the team to beat in this conference. Beating them means they are not that strong and that other PBA teams can also beat them. Now that they are exposed, other teams will just follow the format and see if they can also come up with the same success. Also, it is our pride that we could defend our league against the guest teams even if they are strong. It does not matter which team beat them as long as we see that we are not totally dominated by a guest team.

Now that the Bay Area has been exposed they have to think back if they needed to bring Powell back, Nicholson is good, but PBA super teams also have Big men who can help in protecting the boards and play tough defense.

Nicholson still have 3 games to play before the Dragons can choose which between Powell and Nicholson they will want to continue the conference with. Right now, Powell is looking good to continue but I am not shutting Nicholson yet. It was his first game with the Dragons and there might be jitters still and they are in the adjustment period.  I want to see him perform against San Miguel first. If he really cannot carry his team, then it is better for Powell to resume back.
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Congratulations to the Ginebra Gin Kings, that wasn't the game that we are expecting, the absence of Myles Powell was really huge for the team, and hopefully they will learn that Ginebra is not an easy team to beat, it's just a happy night for me as I also won my bet on this game.
I thought that their new import Nicholson will sustain his great performance in the 1st half, but after scoring 26 in the 1st half, he only scored 2 in the 2nd half and the Ginebra just took over on the 2nd half and got the victory.

I expected an arena full of crowd, but still there are many fans out there. I guess the Bay Area didn't expect the Ginebra to play that way and the amount of crowd that will go against them because we know how Ginebra fans are. I also think that changing of import also affected the chemistry of the team and how they will play around him. With Powell, you have a guard who can just make fastbreak and score 30 points. Nicholson is also a good import and has a long wingspan, but it seems that he ran out of gas coming into the 2nd half last night.

I hope that the Dragons are ready because their remaining games will be against SMC and MVP.

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Alright, Ginebra beat the Bay Area Dragons! It's now only Magnolia that hasn't lost any game and the Dragons have already 1 lost one for this conference.
I don't know but why it seems that we are all celebrating just this 1 win against the Bay Area Dragons. I think that our minds are collaborating and really want them to lose to any team. This is a boost for the Ginkings and as well as for the other teams that these Dragons won't always be as what we're expecting to be.

They are the team to beat in this conference. Beating them means they are not that strong and that other PBA teams can also beat them. Now that they are exposed, other teams will just follow the format and see if they can also come up with the same success. Also, it is our pride that we could defend our league against the guest teams even if they are strong. It does not matter which team beat them as long as we see that we are not totally dominated by a guest team.
Just because they were beaten by Ginebra means that they're not strong. Still, they're a strong team and they're the most desired team to be beaten by most teams.
That one win has brought the idea that other teams should also aim for the same. But anyway, the Dragons will learn from that lose they've got that they shouldn't be confident with the other teams as well. It only shows that they're not an undefeatable team and they have to equally balance that mindset they have because all other opposing teams can do the same.

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