2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[Natalim]

PBA really making a huge noise a lot of drama to gather attentions maybe they are trying anything to gain those interests from the viewers. They are following the saying that even negative publicity is still a publicity, hahaha kidding aside, My personal take on that note is very possible, PBA is controlled by SMC and MVP they can simply request for that schedule to see how the visiting team play and scout them to make sure that they are well prepared before they met.

If this issue will be proven, surely the interest of those possible additional visiting teams will be lesser. They might not take that effort to join with the league that fully manipulated.

Manipulating the game schedules is too much and i don't think they did that because as per observation, it is usually the teams that exited early on the last conferences will have to play a game or two before the teams that have played on the semi-finals and finals of that conference, might be a sort of favor for them to extend their rest period.

Tomorrow, Ginebra will be playing against ROS, let us see if the arena will be filled.

If it's Sunday the Arena may be filled, but since tomorrow is Wednesday, I think they will not be able to fill the stadium. As long as the game is exciting, it will not only entertain the fans that are going to the venue, but also the fans watching the game live on their TV and those who watch through live streaming.

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[blockman]

Aside from that award-related issues regarding guest teams, there are speculations that PBA intentionally modified the schedule of the Bay Area Dragons to face first those teams that are not on the top tier. In that way, top-tier teams like SMB, Ginebra, or TNT can scout first the skills and talents of this guest team to fully prepare once they will now faced-off against the Dragons.

What's your take on that speculation guys? It does make sense or not?

Well, it's been noticed but there's no way to change that anymore as long as they'll be able to fight with all teams then that it should be.
It's noticeable that the best teams were the last to face the Bay Area Dragons. It makes sense and that's why we just hope that the SMB, TNT, Ginebra could beat the Dragons when it's already their schedule.

[ultrloa]

Aside from that award-related issues regarding guest teams, there are speculations that PBA intentionally modified the schedule of the Bay Area Dragons to face first those teams that are not on the top tier. In that way, top-tier teams like SMB, Ginebra, or TNT can scout first the skills and talents of this guest team to fully prepare once they will now faced-off against the Dragons.

What's your take on that speculation guys? It does make sense or not?

Totally obvious fighting them with farm teams on opening day will make people question if they are really serious or not. They keep doing their magic tricks in the league that's why this adds up another reason why their fans go away and let see if big teams will fight against the guess team if they cannot fill the venue then meaning fans are totally done with PBA since if fan keep ignoring to see what supposed to be a good match up on this two giant corporate teams against bay area dragons we can say this is really bad for them.

[Fredomago]

PBA really making a huge noise a lot of drama to gather attentions maybe they are trying anything to gain those interests from the viewers. They are following the saying that even negative publicity is still a publicity, hahaha kidding aside, My personal take on that note is very possible, PBA is controlled by SMC and MVP they can simply request for that schedule to see how the visiting team play and scout them to make sure that they are well prepared before they met.

If this issue will be proven, surely the interest of those possible additional visiting teams will be lesser. They might not take that effort to join with the league that fully manipulated.

Manipulating the game schedules is too much and i don't think they did that because as per observation, it is usually the teams that exited early on the last conferences will have to play a game or two before the teams that have played on the semi-finals and finals of that conference, might be a sort of favor for them to extend their rest period.

Tomorrow, Ginebra will be playing against ROS, let us see if the arena will be filled.

Make sense and it's reality just riding with the rumors and dramas so I just replying with those kinds of dramas around PBA, but clarifying your statement and I agree that those teams manage to play during the playoffs and maybe the format for visiting teams are arrange like that, no manipulation at all crossing my fingers though.

With the bad weather and Gin kings will be playing against RoS. Maybe there are still die hard, fans but the numbers might be lesser.

[jakelyson]

Tomorrow, Ginebra will be playing against ROS, let us see if the arena will be filled.

It is a weekday; I am not expecting that many to watch the games even if Ginebra is playing. If it is a weekend, I expect it to have a decent attendance. I only full venue during playoffs and finals, I seldom see them during elimination.

PBA really making a huge noise a lot of drama to gather attentions maybe they are trying anything to gain those interests from the viewers. They are following the saying that even negative publicity is still a publicity, hahaha kidding aside, My personal take on that note is very possible, PBA is controlled by SMC and MVP they can simply request for that schedule to see how the visiting team play and scout them to make sure that they are well prepared before they met.

If this issue will be proven, surely the interest of those possible additional visiting teams will be lesser. They might not take that effort to join with the league that fully manipulated.

Manipulating the game schedules is too much and i don't think they did that because as per observation, it is usually the teams that exited early on the last conferences will have to play a game or two before the teams that have played on the semi-finals and finals of that conference, might be a sort of favor for them to extend their rest period.

Tomorrow, Ginebra will be playing against ROS, let us see if the arena will be filled.

Maybe that is the truth, but we cannot blame the fans for coming up with that speculation because the commissioner is heavily favoring these SMC and MVP teams. I had the same reaction the first time I saw the schedule and how good the guest team is. And because of the actions of the commissioner, even if it was of good faith, fans will always put a bad light on it.

[blockman]

Maybe that is the truth, but we cannot blame the fans for coming up with that speculation because the commissioner is heavily favoring these SMC and MVP teams. I had the same reaction the first time I saw the schedule and how good the guest team is. And because of the actions of the commissioner, even if it was of good faith, fans will always put a bad light on it.

Yes, they should be always open to those speculations from the fans because they always do that favor to the SMC/MVP teams.
The PBA is already aware of these and yet, they still keep on doing actions that will make their fans go with those hates and speculations that would be against to them.
If I'm the one making a schedule, I would make a hype on its very first opening day like making it Bay Area Dragons versus Ginebra.

[LogitechMouse]

PBA really making a huge noise a lot of drama to gather attentions maybe they are trying anything to gain those interests from the viewers. They are following the saying that even negative publicity is still a publicity, hahaha kidding aside, My personal take on that note is very possible, PBA is controlled by SMC and MVP they can simply request for that schedule to see how the visiting team play and scout them to make sure that they are well prepared before they met.

If this issue will be proven, surely the interest of those possible additional visiting teams will be lesser. They might not take that effort to join with the league that fully manipulated.

It has been for a very long time. Comm. Marcial has been a puppet to these 2 big companies that this league has been focusing on them only. Unbalanced trades, only SMC and MVP teams are the ones we are seeing competing with each other. Independent teams becoming farming teams of these 2 companies. Our commissioner has been a puppet for a very long time.

Negative publicity is still publicity yes, but we are starting the negative impact of it now. People aren't interested anymore in watching the game live, PH players playing outside PH because of how PBA is right now and there are some who are just opting to play in their respective places. In the future, we might see some players hanging their jersey in the PBA to play in the MPBL where there are more audiences.

For sure this will not be proven but it's pretty obvious already that they are manipulating the league. I'm also thinking, what if we will change the commissioner? Will something change to how PBA is right now?

[arwin100]

PBA really making a huge noise a lot of drama to gather attentions maybe they are trying anything to gain those interests from the viewers. They are following the saying that even negative publicity is still a publicity, hahaha kidding aside, My personal take on that note is very possible, PBA is controlled by SMC and MVP they can simply request for that schedule to see how the visiting team play and scout them to make sure that they are well prepared before they met.

If this issue will be proven, surely the interest of those possible additional visiting teams will be lesser. They might not take that effort to join with the league that fully manipulated.

I'm also thinking, what if we will change the commissioner? Will something change to how PBA is right now?

Calling about changing the coach of Gilas didn't work because they still choose Chot Reyes eventhough there's is an overwhelming calling for him to resign but the SBP official didn't listen to what fans chant or request. How much more with the commissioner? Where they are much benefiting on it for sure that guy will stay long on PBA because he always follow the order of big companies on the league. PBA need a total revamp since if they keep doing those unfair trades then for sure they can see huge drop of people's interest to watch their league.

[Natalim]

The game between Ginebra and ROS is very surprising, there's no way Ginebra will be able to come back in this game.

ROS now is leading the game with 49-72, and it seemed like Brownlee has been struggling with only 14 points so far.
I'm sure everyone has put their bet on Ginebra, but sorry guys, it's an upset tonight.

[Fredomago]

PBA really making a huge noise a lot of drama to gather attentions maybe they are trying anything to gain those interests from the viewers. They are following the saying that even negative publicity is still a publicity, hahaha kidding aside, My personal take on that note is very possible, PBA is controlled by SMC and MVP they can simply request for that schedule to see how the visiting team play and scout them to make sure that they are well prepared before they met.

If this issue will be proven, surely the interest of those possible additional visiting teams will be lesser. They might not take that effort to join with the league that fully manipulated.

It has been for a very long time. Comm. Marcial has been a puppet to these 2 big companies that this league has been focusing on them only. Unbalanced trades, only SMC and MVP teams are the ones we are seeing competing with each other. Independent teams becoming farming teams of these 2 companies. Our commissioner has been a puppet for a very long time.

Negative publicity is still publicity yes, but we are starting the negative impact of it now. People aren't interested anymore in watching the game live, PH players playing outside PH because of how PBA is right now and there are some who are just opting to play in their respective places. In the future, we might see some players hanging their jersey in the PBA to play in the MPBL where there are more audiences.

For sure this will not be proven but it's pretty obvious already that they are manipulating the league. I'm also thinking, what if we will change the commissioner? Will something change to how PBA is right now?

Change people but same authority, I mean even you replace Marcial but if the replacement will remain a puppet, there's nothing that will be a change in terms of handling the situation, I know it is out of topic but if MPBL will continue to be supported like this it also possible that fans attentions will be shifted to this league, I mean in terms of national media, PBA will suffer for sure.

The game between Ginebra and ROS is very surprising, there's no way Ginebra will be able to come back in this game.

ROS now is leading the game with 49-72, and it seemed like Brownlee has been struggling with only 14 points so far.
I'm sure everyone has put their bet on Ginebra, but sorry guys, it's an upset tonight.

Yes, Gin kings are unable to come back, final score 93-71 that good rotation of RoS manage to maintain the lead and they win the game. Not sure what happens with the players, but seems that they are struggling and the chemistry is still unestablished.

[Kelvinid]

The game between Ginebra and ROS is very surprising, there's no way Ginebra will be able to come back in this game.

ROS now is leading the game with 49-72, and it seemed like Brownlee has been struggling with only 14 points so far.
I'm sure everyone has put their bet on Ginebra, but sorry guys, it's an upset tonight.

Yes, Gin kings are unable to come back, final score 93-71 that good rotation of RoS manage to maintain the lead and they win the game. Not sure what happens with the players, but seems that they are struggling and the chemistry is still unestablished.

When it comes to chemistry, I think it should be the Ginebra who should have the better one since Brownlee has been their consistent import, maybe it's juts a bad game for the team but we have to respect the ROS as well, they are a good team under coach Yeng and they have proven that tonight.

[samcrypto]

The game between Ginebra and ROS is very surprising, there's no way Ginebra will be able to come back in this game.

ROS now is leading the game with 49-72, and it seemed like Brownlee has been struggling with only 14 points so far.
I'm sure everyone has put their bet on Ginebra, but sorry guys, it's an upset tonight.

This is quiet disappointed, I guess they still need to do more practice and play well with their import it looks like a first game jitters.
Kudos to ROS for playing all out and Ginebra is not an easy team to beat and yet they are able to do so. I can say that this commissioners cup is really exciting with full of surprises. Too early to say but I still believe GInebra will bounce back this conference, let's see if they can adjust on their next game.

[Yamifoud]

The game between Ginebra and ROS is very surprising, there's no way Ginebra will be able to come back in this game.

ROS now is leading the game with 49-72, and it seemed like Brownlee has been struggling with only 14 points so far.
I'm sure everyone has put their bet on Ginebra, but sorry guys, it's an upset tonight.

This is quiet disappointed, I guess they still need to do more practice and play well with their import it looks like a first game jitters.
Kudos to ROS for playing all out and Ginebra is not an easy team to beat and yet they are able to do so. I can say that this commissioners cup is really exciting with full of surprises. Too early to say but I still believe GInebra will bounce back this conference, let's see if they can adjust on their next game.

ROS did bounce back hard with a big win, I like what they did, they look inspired this season, probably because they have their old coach back again and for sure coach Yeng is very serious in trying to win another championship again, but the question is, can they stay consistent?

[Shamm]

The game between Ginebra and ROS is very surprising, there's no way Ginebra will be able to come back in this game.

ROS now is leading the game with 49-72, and it seemed like Brownlee has been struggling with only 14 points so far.
I'm sure everyone has put their bet on Ginebra, but sorry guys, it's an upset tonight.

This is quiet disappointed, I guess they still need to do more practice and play well with their import it looks like a first game jitters.
Kudos to ROS for playing all out and Ginebra is not an easy team to beat and yet they are able to do so. I can say that this commissioners cup is really exciting with full of surprises. Too early to say but I still believe GInebra will bounce back this conference, let's see if they can adjust on their next game.

ROS did bounce back hard with a big win, I like what they did, they look inspired this season, probably because they have their old coach back again and for sure coach Yeng is very serious in trying to win another championship again, but the question is, can they stay consistent?

Both 4 teams doing good in this day games and Rain or shine got their first win all local star players doing great and also their import doing good and best adjustment they do and very effective that's why they won against ginebra.
But overall ginebra doing great malonso and their import do their best.
In other game between magnolia vs Terrafirma the game is so close but magnolia still manage and win by the help of their import Rakocevic which is play harder.

[blockman]

ROS did bounce back hard with a big win, I like what they did, they look inspired this season, probably because they have their old coach back again and for sure coach Yeng is very serious in trying to win another championship again, but the question is, can they stay consistent?

That is one factor that Yeng is back. I'm not expecting that the lead would that be much for ROS and it's Ginebra that's likely to win in what I have thought but it's the opposite.
Consistency is no question for Coach Yeng but that question should go for his players. Sometimes that motivation that's coming from him isn't really motivating the ego of his players but a few of them might take it personally even if they're professionals.

[Johnyz]

The game between Ginebra and ROS is very surprising, there's no way Ginebra will be able to come back in this game.

ROS now is leading the game with 49-72, and it seemed like Brownlee has been struggling with only 14 points so far.
I'm sure everyone has put their bet on Ginebra, but sorry guys, it's an upset tonight.

This is quiet disappointed, I guess they still need to do more practice and play well with their import it looks like a first game jitters.
Kudos to ROS for playing all out and Ginebra is not an easy team to beat and yet they are able to do so. I can say that this commissioners cup is really exciting with full of surprises. Too early to say but I still believe GInebra will bounce back this conference, let's see if they can adjust on their next game.

ROS did bounce back hard with a big win, I like what they did, they look inspired this season, probably because they have their old coach back again and for sure coach Yeng is very serious in trying to win another championship again, but the question is, can they stay consistent?

They have to be more consistent if they really want to enter at least the semi-finals, there’s a lot of good teams in PBA right now and every team is a threat that’s why they have to work harded and I’m sure coach Yeng already familiar with ROS and they can easily adopt with their new system. I didn’t expect to see Ginebra with a huge point deficit, it looks like they are not playing their usual game here, they have to address this as well.

[bisdak40]

ROS did bounce back hard with a big win, I like what they did, they look inspired this season, probably because they have their old coach back again and for sure coach Yeng is very serious in trying to win another championship again, but the question is, can they stay consistent?

That is one factor that Yeng is back. I'm not expecting that the lead would that be much for ROS and it's Ginebra that's likely to win in what I have thought but it's the opposite.
Consistency is no question for Coach Yeng but that question should go for his players. Sometimes that motivation that's coming from him isn't really motivating the ego of his players but a few of them might take it personally even if they're professionals.

This is coach Yeng's second game as a coach of ROS, on the first game they lost to NLEX so I could say that Ginebra just came out flat on their first game this conference and maybe some of their players are not that 100 percent fit, I mean "basketball fit" so that contributed also to the loss of the Kings and to be fair with ROS, they played balanced offense which is a patented coach Yeng's system.

That's the beauty of betting for the underdog this early in the conference because strong teams can afford to drop a single game or two but let's expect Brownlee and Ginebra to bounce back just like last year.

[blockman]

ROS did bounce back hard with a big win, I like what they did, they look inspired this season, probably because they have their old coach back again and for sure coach Yeng is very serious in trying to win another championship again, but the question is, can they stay consistent?

That is one factor that Yeng is back. I'm not expecting that the lead would that be much for ROS and it's Ginebra that's likely to win in what I have thought but it's the opposite.
Consistency is no question for Coach Yeng but that question should go for his players. Sometimes that motivation that's coming from him isn't really motivating the ego of his players but a few of them might take it personally even if they're professionals.

This is coach Yeng's second game as a coach of ROS, on the first game they lost to NLEX so I could say that Ginebra just came out flat on their first game this conference and maybe some of their players are not that 100 percent fit, I mean "basketball fit" so that contributed also to the loss of the Kings and to be fair with ROS, they played balanced offense which is a patented coach Yeng's system.

That's the beauty of betting for the underdog this early in the conference because strong teams can afford to drop a single game or two but let's expect Brownlee and Ginebra to bounce back just like last year.

Yes, strong teams won't mind losing with their first games but too conscious when the matches are in the semis and finals. I mean, that most teams are like that, they can afford to lose when it's just all about the beginning and it doesn't matter to them but they'll recover and bounce back when it's all about close to the end of the conference.
Most teams are like that but we also know that there are teams that have no plans to win and just being used as a farm team.

[harizen]

What a monster performance by Magnolia's import Nick Rakocevic from Serbia. I'm impressed with his PBA debut and I think one of the imports who has an impressive debut in the league's history. It's noted that this import faced criticisms right away as other people look at white imports as not that competitive and strong. An unfair judgment and not good behavior tsk tsk.

Brgy. Ginebra vs Rain-Or-Shine, congratulations to those bettors who placed a bet for the latter. Pre-game odds are @1.5 for Ginebra against @3 for ROS. Can't believe Ginebra just scored 5 points in the 2nd quarter. That was horrible.

[LogitechMouse]

The game between Ginebra and ROS is very surprising, there's no way Ginebra will be able to come back in this game.

ROS now is leading the game with 49-72, and it seemed like Brownlee has been struggling with only 14 points so far.
I'm sure everyone has put their bet on Ginebra, but sorry guys, it's an upset tonight.

This is quiet disappointed, I guess they still need to do more practice and play well with their import it looks like a first game jitters.
Kudos to ROS for playing all out and Ginebra is not an easy team to beat and yet they are able to do so. I can say that this commissioners cup is really exciting with full of surprises. Too early to say but I still believe GInebra will bounce back this conference, let's see if they can adjust on their next game.

ROS did bounce back hard with a big win, I like what they did, they look inspired this season, probably because they have their old coach back again and for sure coach Yeng is very serious in trying to win another championship again, but the question is, can they stay consistent?

Seeing an independent team defeating either a SMC or MVP team makes me happy .
Well, Ginebra fans might say that "It's their first game and the chemistry around the players isn't there still since they got new players". It might be true so let's see on their next game now that they already had one game to test their "chemistry".

ROS is an independent team, but they have a very good line up. An import who can pass and at the same time take over offensively, bigs who can shoot threes efficiently and they have a good captain in Belga. With a very experienced coach like coach Yeng, I hope that ROS will come back and play in the playoffs like what they are a few years ago. I will watch ROS games now for sure.