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July 05, 2022, 01:00:49 PM
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Hopefully, there's major change now that the coach is not anymore a Filipino, or coach Chot to be specific. Coach Tab is the best coach of Gilas so far, if not with him, we will never see the potential of Romeo in international games and the Gilas team as a whole.

I agree, coach Chot Reyes' dribble and drive offense seems not effective in the international stage so changing coach as well as the system is timely but it may take some time to know if that is effective or not but i think whoever the coach now will be having a hard time winning some games in the FIBA World Cup, PH is just good on the SEA league, no offense but that is what i have observed.

BTW, we have games tomorrow after that Sunday break.

ROS vs Bolts
Dyip vs Gin Kings

Will the Dyip continue running with their losing streak on?  Grin

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Who are these players you are referring to? FIBA schedules were always posted early, even several months ahead. What franchises are you referring to here?

Seriously? SMB and MVP, though Alfrancis Chua keeps denying that they are keeping their players away from Gilas, do you still remember the Pingris case before?

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But for me, Gilas should stay with that young lineup. There's no need for a PBA player to join the craze as sometimes, players here are more concerned about their career (as they have no choice) instead of doing the "call of duty" for the country.

Based on the experienced, the chance of winning is better with PBA players, that Alapag lead and Castro lead Gilas both create impact and our country being noticed way back when Terrence Romeo creates his name, remember?

But the sense of being sincere with the duty, that's a good argument as PBA players are more into their careers. I fully agree with you.

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These young Gilas prospects will be enhanced more as long as they are used to playing against international teams. Of course, with good guidance from their Head Coach regardless of who's the one that will take the position.

Don't get me wrong and I agree with you in terms of developing young players, if only coach chot let coach Tab to continue
guiding the original gilas. Those young players are already ripe competing international, we see them competes and the
way they are being developed is what we need, look most of them are now part outside leagues who paid them higher than
PBA stars.

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July 06, 2022, 03:33:58 AM
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Hopefully, there's major change now that the coach is not anymore a Filipino, or coach Chot to be specific. Coach Tab is the best coach of Gilas so far, if not with him, we will never see the potential of Romeo in international games and the Gilas team as a whole.

I agree, coach Chot Reyes' dribble and drive offense seems not effective in the international stage so changing coach as well as the system is timely but it may take some time to know if that is effective or not but i think whoever the coach now will be having a hard time winning some games in the FIBA World Cup, PH is just good on the SEA league, no offense but that is what i have observed.
SEA Games and FIBA ASIA I think, at leas we are a bit competitive in FIBA ASIA, IIRC, Gilas won a gold medal before.


BTW, we have games tomorrow after that Sunday break.

ROS vs Bolts
Dyip vs Gin Kings

Will the Dyip continue running with their losing streak on?  Grin

Bolts vs ROS, both teams are struggling, they badly want to win so I think it's hard to predict the winner but I'm sure the game will be very defensive so the call here is under.

about DYIP, I guess they are not a good team to back this season, so I'm going against them.

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July 06, 2022, 03:53:28 AM
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BTW, we have games tomorrow after that Sunday break.

ROS vs Bolts
Dyip vs Gin Kings

Will the Dyip continue running with their losing streak on?  Grin
Dyip is the new Blackwater right now Cheesy.
Well, if only they will not made some useless trades in the past then they must've created a good team that can compete with other teams right now but.. it is what it is.
The streak continues especially that they are facing the top team Ginebra San Miguel and they will get a playoff spot with their win.

Bolts Vs. ROS. Both are struggling teams right now but ROS is at the bottom with only 1 win compare to Bolts' 3 so maybe I will go with Meralco with this one.

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July 06, 2022, 04:29:54 AM
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BTW, we have games tomorrow after that Sunday break.

ROS vs Bolts
Dyip vs Gin Kings

Will the Dyip continue running with their losing streak on?  Grin
Dyip is the new Blackwater right now Cheesy.
Well, if only they will not made some useless trades in the past then they must've created a good team that can compete with other teams right now but.. it is what it is.
The streak continues especially that they are facing the top team Ginebra San Miguel and they will get a playoff spot with their win.
Exactly, this is going to be an easy win by Ginebra, I wouldn't be suprise if they lose by 20 points or more because DYIP now is a very bad team, you are just wasting your money if you will bet on them.

Bolts Vs. ROS. Both are struggling teams right now but ROS is at the bottom with only 1 win compare to Bolts' 3 so maybe I will go with Meralco with this one.
It's 50/50 for me, however, I trust the Bolts here more than the ROS becacuse they have lots of shooters and their defense are more precise.

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What a very thrilling game, ROS was +4.5 and they only lose by 4 points, so they covered the spread.

This team is not gonna make it to the playoffs, they keep on losing so I don't trust them anymore.
Congratulations to the Boltz for winning the game, after tough losses, they are now finally back to the winning path.
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July 06, 2022, 10:27:29 AM
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What a very thrilling game, ROS was +4.5 and they only lose by 4 points, so they covered the spread.
That gives thrill to the bettors, especially if you are betting on the ROS, LOL.
It's expected that they will find a way to shoot the last basket despite the fact that they have no chance on winning again due to the points quotient.


This team is not gonna make it to the playoffs, they keep on losing so I don't trust them anymore.
Congratulations to the Boltz for winning the game, after tough losses, they are now finally back to the winning path.
Good start but the long losing streak make them lose their opportunity, better luck next season or next conference, but they are still better compared to DYIP, Converge and other teams that are not so competitive.

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July 06, 2022, 10:47:57 AM
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What a very thrilling game, ROS was +4.5 and they only lose by 4 points, so they covered the spread.

This team is not gonna make it to the playoffs, they keep on losing so I don't trust them anymore.
Congratulations to the Boltz for winning the game, after tough losses, they are now finally back to the winning path.

Thrilling indeed, lucky for me i got the -3.5 Bolts on the pre-live betting. That missed free throw by Quinto brought misery to those who took the opening spread of -4.5 for the Bolts. Hope that this win by the wards of coach Black would boost their morale and win more games for them to secure a spot in the quarters.

On to the second game, after trailing by 12 points, the Dyip is now on the driver's seat with a slim lead going in the the third canto. Another thrilling game to those who bet with the spread of 14.5 huh.

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What a very thrilling game, ROS was +4.5 and they only lose by 4 points, so they covered the spread.

This team is not gonna make it to the playoffs, they keep on losing so I don't trust them anymore.
Congratulations to the Boltz for winning the game, after tough losses, they are now finally back to the winning path.

Thrilling indeed, lucky for me i got the -3.5 Bolts on the pre-live betting. That missed free throw by Quinto brought misery to those who took the opening spread of -4.5 for the Bolts. Hope that this win by the wards of coach Black would boost their morale and win more games for them to secure a spot in the quarters.
Hope so because it's very uncharacteristic for the Meralco to miss the qualifying games.
Such a great game, it was indeed a defensive match up, I can't remember the total but I think they hit the under.

On to the second game, after trailing by 12 points, the Dyip is now on the driver's seat with a slim lead going in the the third canto. Another thrilling game to those who bet with the spread of 14.5 huh.
Very sweet if they will win, the odds was like x9 ML for DYIP and x50 for them to win 11+ points.
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On to the second game, after trailing by 12 points, the Dyip is now on the driver's seat with a slim lead going in the the third canto. Another thrilling game to those who bet with the spread of 14.5 huh.

Just like how the PBA being orchestrated, hahaha  Grin kidding aside, Ginebra got woke up after that rally and start to pump back the lead, with a healthy Japeth defending the boards, something that really gives them the advantage. I didn't watch the game entirely, but I just noticed that 32-58 run in the 2nd half.

That's the classic Ginebra, they are good after the 1st half huddle. I don't know what's the drill is inside the locker room, but after that, minutes of rest.

We've seen different team playing both defense and offense they fully dominated. Congrats Gin kings handicap takers.

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July 07, 2022, 11:28:18 AM
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We have a great match-up today, it's TNT vs SMB, the odds are very close, TNT is only -1.5 but I think it's hard to guess who will win here.
My pick is TNT because of Mikey Williams, as long as there's no stopper from the SMB team, I believe that 30 points is just too easy for him.



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July 07, 2022, 11:40:16 AM
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We have a great match-up today, it's TNT vs SMB, the odds are very close, TNT is only -1.5 but I think it's hard to guess who will win here.
My pick is TNT because of Mikey Williams, as long as there's no stopper from the SMB team, I believe that 30 points is just too easy for him.
I got the opposite side here, Fajardo is back, he is now a monster in the paint so that alone is already a big advantage for the SMB. Kelly Williams is manning Fajardo, he is too small and a bit old already so he might only get tired as the game progresss. Maybe TNT will win the first half but SMB will come back strong in the 2nd half.
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July 07, 2022, 11:52:54 AM
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We have a great match-up today, it's TNT vs SMB, the odds are very close, TNT is only -1.5 but I think it's hard to guess who will win here.
My pick is TNT because of Mikey Williams, as long as there's no stopper from the SMB team, I believe that 30 points is just too easy for him.
I got the opposite side here, Fajardo is back, he is now a monster in the paint so that alone is already a big advantage for the SMB. Kelly Williams is manning Fajardo, he is too small and a bit old already so he might only get tired as the game progresss. Maybe TNT will win the first half but SMB will come back strong in the 2nd half.
Good luck, this game is really close, SMB had a double digit lead but TNT were able to come back and bring the SMB to a single digit lead only. We are now in the 2nd quarter, hopefully TNT will make a big run and Mikey Williams will have a good 3 point shooting.

Mikey Williams only has 2 points, not a good sign. Angry



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July 07, 2022, 12:10:14 PM
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We have a great match-up today, it's TNT vs SMB, the odds are very close, TNT is only -1.5 but I think it's hard to guess who will win here.
My pick is TNT because of Mikey Williams, as long as there's no stopper from the SMB team, I believe that 30 points is just too easy for him.
I got the opposite side here, Fajardo is back, he is now a monster in the paint so that alone is already a big advantage for the SMB. Kelly Williams is manning Fajardo, he is too small and a bit old already so he might only get tired as the game progresss. Maybe TNT will win the first half but SMB will come back strong in the 2nd half.

The result of the first quarter is close in favor of SMB 26-22, still far from the end zone and it's interesting to watch if who will win the game, knowing that both team have their respective stars who can abused the advantage, Both of you mentioned the main man that might provide good offensive productions but it will still a team effort to win the game.

Both Fajardo and Williams can create space for themselves individually, and both coaches know that it will be the executions of
good defense that will change the tempo of this game and decide who will take this one.

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July 07, 2022, 12:31:17 PM
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Good luck, this game is really close, SMB had a double digit lead but TNT were able to come back and bring the SMB to a single digit lead only. We are now in the 2nd quarter, hopefully TNT will make a big run and Mikey Williams will have a good 3 point shooting.

Mikey Williams only has 2 points, not a good sign. Angry

Not a good first half for Mikey Williams but definitely he will come back in the second half but the thing with TNT is that they miss the services of Troy Rosario and Brian Heruela because of injury so TNT is in trouble here if the guns of Williams and Pogoy won't click in the third and fourth quarter.

Congrats to those who bet on the over 190 as this is a high-scoring game I think, I'm prepared to lose my bet ticket on this one.

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July 07, 2022, 01:07:24 PM
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Good luck, this game is really close, SMB had a double digit lead but TNT were able to come back and bring the SMB to a single digit lead only. We are now in the 2nd quarter, hopefully TNT will make a big run and Mikey Williams will have a good 3 point shooting.

Mikey Williams only has 2 points, not a good sign. Angry

Not a good first half for Mikey Williams but definitely he will come back in the second half but the thing with TNT is that they miss the services of Troy Rosario and Brian Heruela because of injury so TNT is in trouble here if the guns of Williams and Pogoy won't click in the third and fourth quarter.

Congrats to those who bet on the over 190 as this is a high-scoring game I think, I'm prepared to lose my bet ticket on this one.

This is probably the worse game of Mikey Williams, looks like SMB really did a great job on defending him because he is still not in double-digit as of now. Well, the game is not over yet, let's see if he will explode in the last and final quarter.
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July 07, 2022, 05:34:24 PM
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Good luck, this game is really close, SMB had a double digit lead but TNT were able to come back and bring the SMB to a single digit lead only. We are now in the 2nd quarter, hopefully TNT will make a big run and Mikey Williams will have a good 3 point shooting.

Mikey Williams only has 2 points, not a good sign. Angry

Not a good first half for Mikey Williams but definitely he will come back in the second half but the thing with TNT is that they miss the services of Troy Rosario and Brian Heruela because of injury so TNT is in trouble here if the guns of Williams and Pogoy won't click in the third and fourth quarter.

Congrats to those who bet on the over 190 as this is a high-scoring game I think, I'm prepared to lose my bet ticket on this one.

This is probably the worse game of Mikey Williams, looks like SMB really did a great job on defending him because he is still not in double-digit as of now. Well, the game is not over yet, let's see if he will explode in the last and final quarter.

He manage to bring 11 points but Fajardo shows him the real MVP caliber, dominating the game with 30 points that's the classic Fajardo we've seen, he really bringing his game back and I'm sure there's also influence from how he gives those converted points into charity that her mom ask him before she died.

Complete domination by SMB, the distributions of plays and the way role players help one another, that's something we always
wanted to see with SMB.

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July 07, 2022, 11:00:53 PM
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He manage to bring 11 points but Fajardo shows him the real MVP caliber, dominating the game with 30 points that's the classic Fajardo we've seen, he really bringing his game back and I'm sure there's also influence from how he gives those converted points into charity that her mom ask him before she died.

JuneMar Fajardo is really making a buzz at this conference. His average at any stat line so far is impressive.

He was sidelined for too long and now that he was totally fully healthy, he is returning the favor for San Miguel Beermen to those long periods he missed the action. If Fajardo will maintain that good performance for long, it's them again as a team to beat this Conference like always the situation before in every All-Filipino Cup. The charity might also play a big boost to his performance as he was dedicated in his words to helping that charity and to do that, he needs to score more points in every game.

What team do you think can stopped the ravage of SMB, specifically JuneMar Fajardo?
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July 07, 2022, 11:59:11 PM
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This is probably the worse game of Mikey Williams, looks like SMB really did a great job on defending him because he is still not in double-digit as of now. Well, the game is not over yet, let's see if he will explode in the last and final quarter.

Unusual to see Mikey Williams having that off-night performance. It looks like SMB really goes hard on him.

The scoring machine guy from TNT was able to stop by the SMB and successfully manage to limit his usual average.

SMB is now returning again to their fierce performance now especially that JMF is now doing his usual JMF thing like before.

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July 08, 2022, 02:39:48 AM
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This is probably the worse game of Mikey Williams, looks like SMB really did a great job on defending him because he is still not in double-digit as of now. Well, the game is not over yet, let's see if he will explode in the last and final quarter.

Unusual to see Mikey Williams having that off-night performance. It looks like SMB really goes hard on him.

The scoring machine guy from TNT was able to stop by the SMB and successfully manage to limit his usual average.

SMB is now returning again to their fierce performance now especially that JMF is now doing his usual JMF thing like before.
Williams got 11 points only with 3-14 shooting.
I don't know if Williams only has a bad night or the TNT was just exposed with this one.

If this is only a bad night for Williams then he must step up and recover himself in their next game against the 2nd seeded Brgy. Ginebra San Miguel. Now there might be a chance that SMB exposed them because aside from Williams, no one can step up offensively and carry his team to victory. Either way, SMB is now at the top spot again and it looks like they are starting to get along with each other. JMF back in his MVP numbers and the acquisition of Cruz and Enciso really helped the team because we know how good these 2 are in three-point shooting.

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