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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.2%)
Real Madrid - 81 (67.5%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.7%)
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June 23, 2023, 04:32:53 PM
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Well for me personally I think that things like Madrid have done have been good, it seems to me that Ancelotti's change also seems very good to me, also with the strategy that he came out against City I did not like his vision of the game and I think that was the reason they lost, it's a pity that they did things that way and Madrid sees this, they know they have very good players and with respect to Mbappé I don't think he will go to Madrid, he already said that Not once, and Madrid doesn't give second chances, that's why I see the signing of a Mabppé with Madrid as far away.
Ancelotti was great as coach of Real Madrid. But any team can lose any match, if the team loses a big match, it is not the responsibility of the manager. As long as Ancelotti was at Real Madrid, I hope he tried his best to make the team better.  He may not be seen as Real Madrid's manager from next season but his lessons will be remembered by the Real Madrid players.

A deal between Mbappe and Real Madrid is being discussed a lot but so far nothing can be said for sure whether Real Madrid will finally sign Mbappe. The summer transfer market won't be open for long so it's probably during this period that Real Madrid will decide on the next player they sign for their squad.

Ancelotti isn't to blame here I agree and as we are speaking of him, I wish him that Mbappe can be signed for the coming season. He has had an amazing career and he is a great manager, I would like to see him coach Mbappe and have success with him: I think this is his last season although I am not sure, but if it is I could very will live with him winning some trophies.
Talking about Mbappe and Madrid at this time it seems that PSG is starting to feel uncomfortable and like giving an ultimatum to Mbappe to make a decision whether he will extend the contract or leave PSG as soon as possible.
This condition also concerns Madrid where they were immediately offered Mbappe but it was rumoured that the price pegged was very large because there was news that Madrid had to give around 300 million to PSG with details of 250 million for the initial payment and 50 million as a bonus for the number of matches made by Mbappe.
This is clearly very large and it is possible to be difficult if at that price but back again this is Mbappe with everything he has at PSG but at such a price it clearly does not make sense just for a player.

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June 23, 2023, 04:40:23 PM
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Well for me personally I think that things like Madrid have done have been good, it seems to me that Ancelotti's change also seems very good to me, also with the strategy that he came out against City I did not like his vision of the game and I think that was the reason they lost, it's a pity that they did things that way and Madrid sees this, they know they have very good players and with respect to Mbappé I don't think he will go to Madrid, he already said that Not once, and Madrid doesn't give second chances, that's why I see the signing of a Mabppé with Madrid as far away.
Ancelotti was great as coach of Real Madrid. But any team can lose any match, if the team loses a big match, it is not the responsibility of the manager. As long as Ancelotti was at Real Madrid, I hope he tried his best to make the team better.  He may not be seen as Real Madrid's manager from next season but his lessons will be remembered by the Real Madrid players.

A deal between Mbappe and Real Madrid is being discussed a lot but so far nothing can be said for sure whether Real Madrid will finally sign Mbappe. The summer transfer market won't be open for long so it's probably during this period that Real Madrid will decide on the next player they sign for their squad.

Ancelotti isn't to blame here I agree and as we are speaking of him, I wish him that Mbappe can be signed for the coming season. He has had an amazing career and he is a great manager, I would like to see him coach Mbappe and have success with him: I think this is his last season although I am not sure, but if it is I could very will live with him winning some trophies.
If this is the last season for Ancelotti at Real madrid I think he will be fighting for the best trophies that will be given to Real Madrid.
I also agree if mbappe can join Real madrid and can be coached by Ancelotti and become a stronger player and can give a good performance for Real madrid in the champions league.

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June 23, 2023, 04:54:45 PM
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Financial limitations have not dampened Barcelona intention to increase its strength in order to maintain the opportunity to defend the La Liga title and also provide competition in the Champions League. Barcelona made a big profit financially from their success in recruiting Gundogan for free because Gundogan estimated market value was at 20 million euro.

Gundogan will join another quality free player that Barcelona previously managed to sign. Eric Garcia, Andreas Christensen and Franck Kessie are most of the free transfer players who are still staying at Barcelona who were part of the success of winning the La Liga trophy last time. The success of bringing in Gundogan can cure Barcelona disappointment a little at the failure to bring in Messi, even though Gundogan is not as good as Messi, his presence can add to Barcelona strength in the midfield.
As an experienced player who has played in several different leagues, I think Gundogan deserves respect and recognition as a good midfielder. Barcelona are very lucky to get his services next season after Gundogan did not renew his contract with Manchester City. Even though we know Barcelona have to sign a lot of free players, their quality is still good compared to other teams.

Barcelona smartly put a lot of effort into rebuilding their squad after being unable to do much due to poor finances. They are moving forward even though many people underestimate them, but that is no reason to see Barcelona fail with their quality.

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June 23, 2023, 04:54:57 PM
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I think it's a decision that Manchester City took and it was definitely considered very well even though it probably didn't make any money for them in this transfer. Pep Guardiola himself is not a coach who will let go of his players if he still needs the player or the player is still in the game scheme they will apply.
Obviously this benefits Barcelona, and it's exactly what you said they took advantage of this moment well to bring Gundogan to become one of the names that will be listed in their squad for the 2023/2024 season.
Manchester City didn't want Gundogan to remain in the club. If they had wanted him to remain in the club his contract would have been renewed before now. The club intentionally waited for his contract to end so that he could leave. The 32 years old German midfielder was not treated well by City. He would have been offered at least a one-year contract because of his contribution to the success of the club. And he is still strong with a lot of experience.

Barcelona took the advantage and gave him a two-year deal with the option of another year if he puts up a good performance. Barca would have to rely on free transfer signing because of their financial limitations. They clinched the league last season using free transfer players like Andreas Christensen and Franck Kessie maybe it might also work this season. Barca was desperate to sign Messi but it didn't turn out as they intended. Gundogan might not be good as Messi but he is a worthy option.

Of course, it would be a big mistake to compare with Messi, but if you want to build the best squad with the lowest cost in a financially struggling team, this is a really good option. İlkay Gündoğan is a very good football player, he can make a very good contribution to the team.
Maybe he will never be the most valuable player like Messi, but he can be a name like Iniesta who will contribute a lot to the team. He just can't score many goals Cheesy

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June 23, 2023, 05:03:13 PM
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As an experienced player who has played in several different leagues, I think Gundogan deserves respect and recognition as a good midfielder. Barcelona are very lucky to get his services next season after Gundogan did not renew his contract with Manchester City. Even though we know Barcelona have to sign a lot of free players, their quality is still good compared to other teams.
Apart from that, Barcelona also needs to thank the players who are currently holding on because they are willing to give this salary cut to improve the club. Instead, this should make Barcelona a club worth fighting for. Look at De Jong who consistently survives amid offers from big clubs but he chooses to stay. Gundogan position has been ideal at Barcelona since the departure of Sergio Busquets, maybe he will be made captain at Barcelona rather than appointing young players. Gundogan leadership can help and I'm sure Xavi likes Gundogan too.

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June 23, 2023, 05:51:46 PM
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The fact that Gundogan was the captain of City team that won the treble and he accepted lesser value contract from Barcelona shows that he wanted to be at Barcelona for a long time. I mean why wouldn't you say yes to more money with the team you captained to win the treble when the other offer is less money with a team that wasn't even out of group stages at UCL? It has to be some personal preference type of thing that will make it a bit harder. In the end he got what he wanted and I think that's what matters to players.

Barcelona could be a decent team by the end of the summer and may end up having a few more players that can improve the team significantly. That way they can be good in the league AND also in other competitions as well.

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June 23, 2023, 06:08:33 PM
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It must be nice to see Ancelotti staying for one last season with Real Madrid for the supporters. Because maybe this season didn't end up well for them but they can't just criticize them harshly upon one season. You know how great Real Madrid were in the season before. Ancelotti would surely like to achieve the same level of success again by next season. But to do that Real Madrid need to take the right steps in the transfer window. Joselu has returned home on loan after 11 years.

He has become quite old though but he would do his best when he gets the chance anyway I guess. Because his season with Espanyol was really impressive. However I assume this won't be the only transfer to the centre-forward position. Because Joselu isn't good enough to fill Benzema's place strongly.

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June 23, 2023, 06:29:50 PM
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Apart from that, Barcelona also needs to thank the players who are currently holding on because they are willing to give this salary cut to improve the club. Instead, this should make Barcelona a club worth fighting for. Look at De Jong who consistently survives amid offers from big clubs but he chooses to stay. Gundogan position has been ideal at Barcelona since the departure of Sergio Busquets, maybe he will be made captain at Barcelona rather than appointing young players. Gundogan leadership can help and I'm sure Xavi likes Gundogan too.

As you said, yes Gundogan is a great replacement for Busquets, but I don't think Barcelona would trust him straight away as captain especially in his first season.

If you look deeper, then maybe you will find the figure of the captain who is most likely to lead Barcelona next season. Sergi Roberto, Marc-André ter Stegen and Frenkie de Jong will probably be up for that responsibility over the next season. So I believe Ilkay Gundogan doesn't deserve the captain's armband yet as he's not a player known for his loyalty as a new players. Araujo might have been more appropriate even though he was young.

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This rumor is still hot, and it is certain that it will often be discussed because Real Madrid, if they have Mbappe will definitely be able to get many more titles in the coming seasons. As for Mbappe, he has a higher chance of getting many awards, one of which might be the Ballon d'or. But those are all rumors only, also Mbappe doesn't want to leave PSG, although in the future there is a possibility because Mbappe contract at PSG has one year left.
Mbappe do want to join Real Madrid and the French president himself was involved to keep him with PSG along with Messi and Neymar in order to win Champions League. This year he has a contract with PSG which will try to impose a huge amount of money to sell him to Real Madrid but at the end they might sell him with half his real price so they cannot see him walk free next year.

I haven't seen any credible news about PSG selling Mbappe. Messi has left PSG. Rumors are being heard that PSG is also interested in selling Neymar. If PSG management sells Mbappe now, the PSG team will be very weak next season. It seems unlikely that PSG will sell the three main players in the squad at the same time. But if PSG wanted to form a completely new team, they could do so.

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As an experienced player who has played in several different leagues, I think Gundogan deserves respect and recognition as a good midfielder. Barcelona are very lucky to get his services next season after Gundogan did not renew his contract with Manchester City. Even though we know Barcelona have to sign a lot of free players, their quality is still good compared to other teams.
Apart from that, Barcelona also needs to thank the players who are currently holding on because they are willing to give this salary cut to improve the club. Instead, this should make Barcelona a club worth fighting for. Look at De Jong who consistently survives amid offers from big clubs but he chooses to stay. Gundogan position has been ideal at Barcelona since the departure of Sergio Busquets, maybe he will be made captain at Barcelona rather than appointing young players. Gundogan leadership can help and I'm sure Xavi likes Gundogan too.
Yes, Barcelona should be proud of a player who is very loyal to the club receiving a salary cut, I don't know if IIkay Gundogan will also have his salary cut? What is certain is that IIkay Gundogan was influenced by Pep Guardiola, who is also a Catalonia supporter, Barcelona is also an ambassador. So it's no wonder that Barcelona is also attractive for gundogan, what is certain is that Barcelona is looking for free players due to unstable finances.

Barcelona really benefited because they got a player from Man City who is already a perfect player, he just needs to adjust to the wishes of the coach. So it's only natural for Man City players who have finished their contracts, Barcelona is ready to accommodate them because Xavi knows what he needs is in Man City. because the playing style of Barcelona and Man city is almost the same.
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June 23, 2023, 07:46:36 PM
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Give me some evidence to make us all believe that Gundogan is not being treated well by Manchester City. Because so far anyone can see it clearly, it's not a problem that Manchester City doesn't want to extend his contract, but Gundogan has achieved what he wanted to achieve with Man City and has managed to lead the club to win 3 trophies at once. Moreover, Gundogan is the captain at Man City, in other words, his contribution is quite large. Did not find any information regarding the statement that Gundogan was not treated well.
That was his decision and the problem of the move of Gundogan had nothing to do with Man City who did not want to extend his contract. Gundogan is also one of the core players in the Pep Guardiola squad and it is impossible for Man City to release it without his personal reasons who want to move. I saw that he had already gotten what he wanted so he decided to go and look for experience in another league for next season, because so far there was no news saying that he was not treated well in Etihad.

This is purely his personal decision that wants to move to Barcelona and it can be said that there is no news or rumors that say that he is not treated well in the team. Because after all Gundogan is one of the players who has helped Man City win three trophies this season and his role is too like big in the 2022-2023 season.

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This rumor is still hot, and it is certain that it will often be discussed because Real Madrid, if they have Mbappe will definitely be able to get many more titles in the coming seasons. As for Mbappe, he has a higher chance of getting many awards, one of which might be the Ballon d'or. But those are all rumors only, also Mbappe doesn't want to leave PSG, although in the future there is a possibility because Mbappe contract at PSG has one year left.
Mbappe do want to join Real Madrid and the French president himself was involved to keep him with PSG along with Messi and Neymar in order to win Champions League. This year he has a contract with PSG which will try to impose a huge amount of money to sell him to Real Madrid but at the end they might sell him at half his real price so they cannot see him walk free next year.
Real Madrid did not meet their expectations in this last season even though there we're part of the top table earners throughout the season but did not perform up to a quarter of what their performance used to be and also did not come top at the end of the season due to lack of good players and getting mbappe on the team will go a long way to help improve the club standing in the 2023/2024 La Liga season,  but just like others have said,  it's not sure if the player or his current club will be willing to accept Real Madrid deal but if that is possible,  we should expect something huge from the club in the long run.
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June 23, 2023, 08:04:04 PM
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Barcelona took the advantage and gave him a two-year deal with the option of another year if he puts up a good performance. Barca would have to rely on free transfer signing because of their financial limitations. They clinched the league last season using free transfer players like Andreas Christensen and Franck Kessie maybe it might also work this season. Barca was desperate to sign Messi but it didn't turn out as they intended. Gundogan might not be good as Messi but he is a worthy option.
Financial limitations have not dampened Barcelona intention to increase its strength in order to maintain the opportunity to defend the La Liga title and also provide competition in the Champions League. Barcelona made a big profit financially from their success in recruiting Gundogan for free because Gundogan estimated market value was at 20 million euro.

Gundogan will join another quality free player that Barcelona previously managed to sign. Eric Garcia, Andreas Christensen and Franck Kessie are most of the free transfer players who are still staying at Barcelona who were part of the success of winning the La Liga trophy last time. The success of bringing in Gundogan can cure Barcelona disappointment a little at the failure to bring in Messi, even though Gundogan is not as good as Messi, his presence can add to Barcelona strength in the midfield.

There is a difference between the positions of Messi and Gundogan. so, we can't compare the two. Gundohan, is a midfielder who has experience and high flying hours. his presence at Barcelona, ​​can replace the role of Sergio Busquets, Xavi could even make him the new captain. Messi, failed to return to Camp Nou with many factors constraining them. however, I think Barcelona is better filled with new players and even fresher young players. even so, it does not mean Messi will not contribute with Barcelona. it's just that, his heyday at Camp Nou is over.

Anyway, Barcelona were lucky to make an approach for Gundohan who eventually agreed to join Camp Nou on a free agent. however, it does not mean that Barcelona will go smoothly in the next season.
IMO, actually, Barcelona still need some newcomers to solidify their depth. unfortunately, financial problems have prevented them from moving freely in the hunt for players in the upcoming summer transfer window.

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June 23, 2023, 08:10:40 PM
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Apart from that, Barcelona also needs to thank the players who are currently holding on because they are willing to give this salary cut to improve the club. Instead, this should make Barcelona a club worth fighting for. Look at De Jong who consistently survives amid offers from big clubs but he chooses to stay.
Not only De Jong, but I think almost all Barcelona players have taken a pay cut so far. Every player who remains is someone who really wants to play for Barcelona including De Jong, Dembele and many other stars. In fact, they admit their love for Barcelona and want to continue playing and defending Barcelona in their career. So, of course it's natural for Barcelona to thank all the players, but what's great about them is that Barcelona's game really improved when everyone took a pay cut.

Gundogan position has been ideal at Barcelona since the departure of Sergio Busquets, maybe he will be made captain at Barcelona rather than appointing young players. Gundogan leadership can help and I'm sure Xavi likes Gundogan too.
How could it be? Ilkay Gundogan is a new player at Barcelona, ​​he has to adapt instead of making him captain right away, so I don't think that makes sense.

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June 23, 2023, 08:16:27 PM
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Apart from that, Barcelona also needs to thank the players who are currently holding on because they are willing to give this salary cut to improve the club. Instead, this should make Barcelona a club worth fighting for. Look at De Jong who consistently survives amid offers from big clubs but he chooses to stay. Gundogan position has been ideal at Barcelona since the departure of Sergio Busquets, maybe he will be made captain at Barcelona rather than appointing young players. Gundogan leadership can help and I'm sure Xavi likes Gundogan too.

As you said, yes Gundogan is a great replacement for Busquets, but I don't think Barcelona would trust him straight away as captain especially in his first season.

If you look deeper, then maybe you will find the figure of the captain who is most likely to lead Barcelona next season. Sergi Roberto, Marc-André ter Stegen and Frenkie de Jong will probably be up for that responsibility over the next season. So I believe Ilkay Gundogan doesn't deserve the captain's armband yet as he's not a player known for his loyalty as a new players. Araujo might have been more appropriate even though he was young.

ter Stegen is probably the right person to be given the captaincy of Barcelona right now. I think that will be the right decision. But even if it is not him I don’t think Barcelona will have problems deciding the captain. There are enough players who are capable of getting that armband. Barcelona should concentrate on other things. Barcelona should concentrate on how to perform better in the Champions League. They should also think about defending the La Liga title. After all the La Liga title is the main thing that they have possession of.

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June 23, 2023, 08:19:56 PM
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I haven't seen any credible news about PSG selling Mbappe. Messi has left PSG. Rumors are being heard that PSG is also interested in selling Neymar. If PSG management sells Mbappe now, the PSG team will be very weak next season. It seems unlikely that PSG will sell the three main players in the squad at the same time. But if PSG wanted to form a completely new team, they could do so.

It’s not an easy situation with Mbappe, Real Madrid wants to get him as a free agent, and they even agreed this with Mbappe, and promised him a bonus of 100 million for such a transfer to the team. At the same time, if Mbappe finishes this season at PSG, he will receive 60 million a contract for the season and 90 million loyalty bonuses, but the PSG bosses clearly do not like this because they feel cheated in this case, because they will not receive anything for Mbappe, so they would like to sell him this summer, and if this happens, he will not will receive payment with bonuses neither from PSG nor from Real Madrid, so this situation does not suit him either...

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June 23, 2023, 08:25:30 PM
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The fact that Gundogan was the captain of City team that won the treble and he accepted lesser value contract from Barcelona shows that he wanted to be at Barcelona for a long time. I mean why wouldn't you say yes to more money with the team you captained to win the treble when the other offer is less money with a team that wasn't even out of group stages at UCL? It has to be some personal preference type of thing that will make it a bit harder. In the end he got what he wanted and I think that's what matters to players.

Barcelona could be a decent team by the end of the summer and may end up having a few more players that can improve the team significantly. That way they can be good in the league AND also in other competitions as well.

Gundogan at 32, leaving Manchester City for Barcelona is MCFC Gain, why do i say this? Gundogan is old and past his prime; Barcelona get an ageing players; while MCFC gets a new opportunity to find a younger replacement for the brilliant Talisman. In the end, its a good deal for both sides
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June 23, 2023, 08:31:17 PM
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A deal between Mbappe and Real Madrid is being discussed a lot but so far nothing can be said for sure whether Real Madrid will finally sign Mbappe. The summer transfer market won't be open for long so it's probably during this period that Real Madrid will decide on the next player they sign for their squad.

I think this deal will be for another time but not for this transfer window. The likely hoof of it happening is very slim, so Real Madrid have to face the reality and move on to sign another player. Mbappe wants to stay at PSG for at least one more season and PSG don’t want his contract to expire before renewing it. This is why Real Madrid is hopeful that they can sign him this season. Sooner or later before the transfer window closes, the fate of Mbappe and that of Real Madrid would have already been decided by then.

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June 23, 2023, 08:54:05 PM
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The fact that Gundogan was the captain of City team that won the treble and he accepted lesser value contract from Barcelona shows that he wanted to be at Barcelona for a long time. I mean why wouldn't you say yes to more money with the team you captained to win the treble when the other offer is less money with a team that wasn't even out of group stages at UCL? It has to be some personal preference type of thing that will make it a bit harder. In the end he got what he wanted and I think that's what matters to players.

Barcelona could be a decent team by the end of the summer and may end up having a few more players that can improve the team significantly. That way they can be good in the league AND also in other competitions as well.

Gundogan at 32, leaving Manchester City for Barcelona is MCFC Gain, why do i say this? Gundogan is old and past his prime; Barcelona get an ageing players; while MCFC gets a new opportunity to find a younger replacement for the brilliant Talisman. In the end, its a good deal for both sides
Given that Barcelona's finances are not yet stable, bringing Gandong from Man City is the right choice even though he is already 32 years old, but I think he will adapt very easily to Barcelona because Gandong is the type of player that Xavi wants. In my opinion, he will be a very important player for Barcelona next season because he will play in a very vital, crucial position in Barcelona's midfield next season.

Barcelona After winning Laliga it is clear that there is an increase in targets so it is possible to add these new players to prepare for the Champions League which is tougher than the local Spanish competition.

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June 23, 2023, 09:14:12 PM
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Given that Barcelona's finances are not yet stable, bringing Gandong from Man City is the right choice even though he is already 32 years old, but I think he will adapt very easily to Barcelona because Gandong is the type of player that Xavi wants. In my opinion, he will be a very important player for Barcelona next season because he will play in a very vital, crucial position in Barcelona's midfield next season.
Barcelona did not sign Gandong, but they did sign Ilkay Gundogan from Manchester City. I'm kidding, but can you fix the error?
Gundogan is a quality player that Barcelona are already considering signing after Busquets' contract expires. Gundogan is expected to provide Barcelona with the stability in midfield as he has done over the last few seasons with Manchester City, and I think he is a player who will still be useful for Barcelona.

Barcelona After winning Laliga it is clear that there is an increase in targets so it is possible to add these new players to prepare for the Champions League which is tougher than the local Spanish competition.
They realize where their weaknesses are, so bringing in Gundogan is one of the realizations to fill the hole in that position next season.

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