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Question: 2024/2025 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 23 (41.8%)
Real Madrid - 29 (52.7%)
Atletico Madrid - 0 (0%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 0 (0%)
Villareal - 1 (1.8%)
Real Sociedad - 2 (3.6%)
Other - 0 (0%)
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June 23, 2023, 07:55:37 PM
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This rumor is still hot, and it is certain that it will often be discussed because Real Madrid, if they have Mbappe will definitely be able to get many more titles in the coming seasons. As for Mbappe, he has a higher chance of getting many awards, one of which might be the Ballon d'or. But those are all rumors only, also Mbappe doesn't want to leave PSG, although in the future there is a possibility because Mbappe contract at PSG has one year left.
Mbappe do want to join Real Madrid and the French president himself was involved to keep him with PSG along with Messi and Neymar in order to win Champions League. This year he has a contract with PSG which will try to impose a huge amount of money to sell him to Real Madrid but at the end they might sell him at half his real price so they cannot see him walk free next year.
Real Madrid did not meet their expectations in this last season even though there we're part of the top table earners throughout the season but did not perform up to a quarter of what their performance used to be and also did not come top at the end of the season due to lack of good players and getting mbappe on the team will go a long way to help improve the club standing in the 2023/2024 La Liga season,  but just like others have said,  it's not sure if the player or his current club will be willing to accept Real Madrid deal but if that is possible,  we should expect something huge from the club in the long run.

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June 23, 2023, 08:04:04 PM
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Barcelona took the advantage and gave him a two-year deal with the option of another year if he puts up a good performance. Barca would have to rely on free transfer signing because of their financial limitations. They clinched the league last season using free transfer players like Andreas Christensen and Franck Kessie maybe it might also work this season. Barca was desperate to sign Messi but it didn't turn out as they intended. Gundogan might not be good as Messi but he is a worthy option.
Financial limitations have not dampened Barcelona intention to increase its strength in order to maintain the opportunity to defend the La Liga title and also provide competition in the Champions League. Barcelona made a big profit financially from their success in recruiting Gundogan for free because Gundogan estimated market value was at 20 million euro.

Gundogan will join another quality free player that Barcelona previously managed to sign. Eric Garcia, Andreas Christensen and Franck Kessie are most of the free transfer players who are still staying at Barcelona who were part of the success of winning the La Liga trophy last time. The success of bringing in Gundogan can cure Barcelona disappointment a little at the failure to bring in Messi, even though Gundogan is not as good as Messi, his presence can add to Barcelona strength in the midfield.

There is a difference between the positions of Messi and Gundogan. so, we can't compare the two. Gundohan, is a midfielder who has experience and high flying hours. his presence at Barcelona, ​​can replace the role of Sergio Busquets, Xavi could even make him the new captain. Messi, failed to return to Camp Nou with many factors constraining them. however, I think Barcelona is better filled with new players and even fresher young players. even so, it does not mean Messi will not contribute with Barcelona. it's just that, his heyday at Camp Nou is over.

Anyway, Barcelona were lucky to make an approach for Gundohan who eventually agreed to join Camp Nou on a free agent. however, it does not mean that Barcelona will go smoothly in the next season.
IMO, actually, Barcelona still need some newcomers to solidify their depth. unfortunately, financial problems have prevented them from moving freely in the hunt for players in the upcoming summer transfer window.

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June 23, 2023, 08:10:40 PM
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Apart from that, Barcelona also needs to thank the players who are currently holding on because they are willing to give this salary cut to improve the club. Instead, this should make Barcelona a club worth fighting for. Look at De Jong who consistently survives amid offers from big clubs but he chooses to stay.
Not only De Jong, but I think almost all Barcelona players have taken a pay cut so far. Every player who remains is someone who really wants to play for Barcelona including De Jong, Dembele and many other stars. In fact, they admit their love for Barcelona and want to continue playing and defending Barcelona in their career. So, of course it's natural for Barcelona to thank all the players, but what's great about them is that Barcelona's game really improved when everyone took a pay cut.

Gundogan position has been ideal at Barcelona since the departure of Sergio Busquets, maybe he will be made captain at Barcelona rather than appointing young players. Gundogan leadership can help and I'm sure Xavi likes Gundogan too.
How could it be? Ilkay Gundogan is a new player at Barcelona, ​​he has to adapt instead of making him captain right away, so I don't think that makes sense.

 
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June 23, 2023, 08:16:27 PM
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Apart from that, Barcelona also needs to thank the players who are currently holding on because they are willing to give this salary cut to improve the club. Instead, this should make Barcelona a club worth fighting for. Look at De Jong who consistently survives amid offers from big clubs but he chooses to stay. Gundogan position has been ideal at Barcelona since the departure of Sergio Busquets, maybe he will be made captain at Barcelona rather than appointing young players. Gundogan leadership can help and I'm sure Xavi likes Gundogan too.

As you said, yes Gundogan is a great replacement for Busquets, but I don't think Barcelona would trust him straight away as captain especially in his first season.

If you look deeper, then maybe you will find the figure of the captain who is most likely to lead Barcelona next season. Sergi Roberto, Marc-André ter Stegen and Frenkie de Jong will probably be up for that responsibility over the next season. So I believe Ilkay Gundogan doesn't deserve the captain's armband yet as he's not a player known for his loyalty as a new players. Araujo might have been more appropriate even though he was young.

ter Stegen is probably the right person to be given the captaincy of Barcelona right now. I think that will be the right decision. But even if it is not him I don’t think Barcelona will have problems deciding the captain. There are enough players who are capable of getting that armband. Barcelona should concentrate on other things. Barcelona should concentrate on how to perform better in the Champions League. They should also think about defending the La Liga title. After all the La Liga title is the main thing that they have possession of.

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June 23, 2023, 08:19:56 PM
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I haven't seen any credible news about PSG selling Mbappe. Messi has left PSG. Rumors are being heard that PSG is also interested in selling Neymar. If PSG management sells Mbappe now, the PSG team will be very weak next season. It seems unlikely that PSG will sell the three main players in the squad at the same time. But if PSG wanted to form a completely new team, they could do so.

It’s not an easy situation with Mbappe, Real Madrid wants to get him as a free agent, and they even agreed this with Mbappe, and promised him a bonus of 100 million for such a transfer to the team. At the same time, if Mbappe finishes this season at PSG, he will receive 60 million a contract for the season and 90 million loyalty bonuses, but the PSG bosses clearly do not like this because they feel cheated in this case, because they will not receive anything for Mbappe, so they would like to sell him this summer, and if this happens, he will not will receive payment with bonuses neither from PSG nor from Real Madrid, so this situation does not suit him either...

 
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June 23, 2023, 08:25:30 PM
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The fact that Gundogan was the captain of City team that won the treble and he accepted lesser value contract from Barcelona shows that he wanted to be at Barcelona for a long time. I mean why wouldn't you say yes to more money with the team you captained to win the treble when the other offer is less money with a team that wasn't even out of group stages at UCL? It has to be some personal preference type of thing that will make it a bit harder. In the end he got what he wanted and I think that's what matters to players.

Barcelona could be a decent team by the end of the summer and may end up having a few more players that can improve the team significantly. That way they can be good in the league AND also in other competitions as well.

Gundogan at 32, leaving Manchester City for Barcelona is MCFC Gain, why do i say this? Gundogan is old and past his prime; Barcelona get an ageing players; while MCFC gets a new opportunity to find a younger replacement for the brilliant Talisman. In the end, its a good deal for both sides
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June 23, 2023, 08:31:17 PM
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A deal between Mbappe and Real Madrid is being discussed a lot but so far nothing can be said for sure whether Real Madrid will finally sign Mbappe. The summer transfer market won't be open for long so it's probably during this period that Real Madrid will decide on the next player they sign for their squad.

I think this deal will be for another time but not for this transfer window. The likely hoof of it happening is very slim, so Real Madrid have to face the reality and move on to sign another player. Mbappe wants to stay at PSG for at least one more season and PSG don’t want his contract to expire before renewing it. This is why Real Madrid is hopeful that they can sign him this season. Sooner or later before the transfer window closes, the fate of Mbappe and that of Real Madrid would have already been decided by then.

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June 23, 2023, 08:54:05 PM
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The fact that Gundogan was the captain of City team that won the treble and he accepted lesser value contract from Barcelona shows that he wanted to be at Barcelona for a long time. I mean why wouldn't you say yes to more money with the team you captained to win the treble when the other offer is less money with a team that wasn't even out of group stages at UCL? It has to be some personal preference type of thing that will make it a bit harder. In the end he got what he wanted and I think that's what matters to players.

Barcelona could be a decent team by the end of the summer and may end up having a few more players that can improve the team significantly. That way they can be good in the league AND also in other competitions as well.

Gundogan at 32, leaving Manchester City for Barcelona is MCFC Gain, why do i say this? Gundogan is old and past his prime; Barcelona get an ageing players; while MCFC gets a new opportunity to find a younger replacement for the brilliant Talisman. In the end, its a good deal for both sides
Given that Barcelona's finances are not yet stable, bringing Gandong from Man City is the right choice even though he is already 32 years old, but I think he will adapt very easily to Barcelona because Gandong is the type of player that Xavi wants. In my opinion, he will be a very important player for Barcelona next season because he will play in a very vital, crucial position in Barcelona's midfield next season.

Barcelona After winning Laliga it is clear that there is an increase in targets so it is possible to add these new players to prepare for the Champions League which is tougher than the local Spanish competition.

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Given that Barcelona's finances are not yet stable, bringing Gandong from Man City is the right choice even though he is already 32 years old, but I think he will adapt very easily to Barcelona because Gandong is the type of player that Xavi wants. In my opinion, he will be a very important player for Barcelona next season because he will play in a very vital, crucial position in Barcelona's midfield next season.
Barcelona did not sign Gandong, but they did sign Ilkay Gundogan from Manchester City. I'm kidding, but can you fix the error?
Gundogan is a quality player that Barcelona are already considering signing after Busquets' contract expires. Gundogan is expected to provide Barcelona with the stability in midfield as he has done over the last few seasons with Manchester City, and I think he is a player who will still be useful for Barcelona.

Barcelona After winning Laliga it is clear that there is an increase in targets so it is possible to add these new players to prepare for the Champions League which is tougher than the local Spanish competition.
They realize where their weaknesses are, so bringing in Gundogan is one of the realizations to fill the hole in that position next season.

 
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June 23, 2023, 09:19:28 PM
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Gundogan at 32, leaving Manchester City for Barcelona is MCFC Gain, why do i say this? Gundogan is old and past his prime; Barcelona get an ageing players; while MCFC gets a new opportunity to find a younger replacement for the brilliant Talisman. In the end, its a good deal for both sides
Gundogan left for free, so it cannot be good for Manchester city because they did not get any money from the transfer, and Gundogan is still good enough to play very well for another 2 or 3 seasons, but it is not too bad for City, he has helped them to achieve so much and the club would not be too disappointed that he decided to go. It is a very good deal for Barca, they did not pay any money for Gundogan and they only have to cover his salary, he will help Barca very well for the next two years.

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Gundogan left for free, so it cannot be good for Manchester city because they did not get any money from the transfer, and Gundogan is still good enough to play very well for another 2 or 3 seasons, but it is not too bad for City, he has helped them to achieve so much and the club would not be too disappointed that he decided to go. It is a very good deal for Barca, they did not pay any money for Gundogan and they only have to cover his salary, he will help Barca very well for the next two years.
Experience matters a lot and for a player like Gundogan, he takes a lot of that with him to Barcelona. Manchester City did not make a good effort for him to remain in  Manchester City else, if they had and offered a really good contract, maybe he would have considered playing one more year for Manchester City. Barcelona will face a lot challenge in the La Liga next season especially from Real Madrid that have already secured some top players in waiting for next season. Gundogan's experience will be a plus for Barcelona in midfield.

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Experience matters a lot and for a player like Gundogan, he takes a lot of that with him to Barcelona. Manchester City did not make a good effort for him to remain in  Manchester City else, if they had and offered a really good contract, maybe he would have considered playing one more year for Manchester City.
It is possible that Gundogan does not want to stay at Manchester City much longer because he wants to play in La Liga with Barcelona. Manchester City are the better team financially so if Gundogan has no intention of leaving then his contract with Barcelona is highly unlikely. We also don't know what happened internally to the club, especially regarding the collaboration between Barcelona and Manchester City, but in recent seasons several Manchester City players have tended to join Barcelona.

Barcelona will face a lot challenge in the La Liga next season especially from Real Madrid that have already secured some top players in waiting for next season. Gundogan's experience will be a plus for Barcelona in midfield.
Of course, Barcelona will get tough competition from its rivals. Real Madrid should regret whatever happened last season, they even have to admit that Barcelona is better. The two titles that Xavi and his team won are proof, so Real Madrid will be pushing even more strength to compete next season.

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They realize where their weaknesses are, so bringing in Gundogan is one of the realizations to fill the hole in that position next season.
Yes, at this time Gundogan is no longer young, but on the other hand, he is still quite good and contributive. At Man City itself, he is one of the key players. But even at that age, for Barcelona, Gundogan will certainly have a very positive effect. Especially with his ability as an all-round midfielder, at least, he might still be very helpful for up to 2 seasons later. So, this is also an advantage for Barcelona by getting Gundogan this season to strengthen his squad especially with a free transfer.

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June 23, 2023, 09:40:16 PM
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The fact that Gundogan was the captain of City team that won the treble and he accepted lesser value contract from Barcelona shows that he wanted to be at Barcelona for a long time. I mean why wouldn't you say yes to more money with the team you captained to win the treble when the other offer is less money with a team that wasn't even out of group stages at UCL? It has to be some personal preference type of thing that will make it a bit harder. In the end he got what he wanted and I think that's what matters to players.

Barcelona could be a decent team by the end of the summer and may end up having a few more players that can improve the team significantly. That way they can be good in the league AND also in other competitions as well.
Maybe he is also tired of being play at Manchester City, because he has been playing in the most competitive league for 7 years, at old age he must maintain a healthy body to maintain him career. It's also possible he has other title targets, as he also hasn't attempted La Liga so far. After all, İlkay Gündoğan has already made great achievements for Manchester City, so not bad if he has a good record in other leagues.
With the presence of İlkay in the Barcelona squad, it makes this club look even more unstoppable, although at the moment Real Madrid also have Bellingham, but I'm not too sure about Ancellotti squad. There is a possibility that Barcelona can get another La Liga title next season, although it is too early to say that.

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June 23, 2023, 09:50:29 PM
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The fact that Gundogan was the captain of City team that won the treble and he accepted lesser value contract from Barcelona shows that he wanted to be at Barcelona for a long time. I mean why wouldn't you say yes to more money with the team you captained to win the treble when the other offer is less money with a team that wasn't even out of group stages at UCL? It has to be some personal preference type of thing that will make it a bit harder. In the end he got what he wanted and I think that's what matters to players.

Barcelona could be a decent team by the end of the summer and may end up having a few more players that can improve the team significantly. That way they can be good in the league AND also in other competitions as well.

Gundogan at 32, leaving Manchester City for Barcelona is MCFC Gain, why do i say this? Gundogan is old and past his prime; Barcelona get an ageing players; while MCFC gets a new opportunity to find a younger replacement for the brilliant Talisman. In the end, its a good deal for both sides
IIkay Gundogan for a fact is at the age of 32 but he's got a lot in the tank when it comes to delivering great performances on the pitch. Until he left Manchester City, he was a regular in the club's starting line up in major competitions and that simply tells how good of a midfielder he is because you have to be at the top of ur game to feature for Pep Guardiola's Manchester City.
I think he left Manchester City not because his services weren't longer needed but because he must have had the ambition to don the Barcelona jersey before he calls it a day in his illustrious career

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June 23, 2023, 09:52:49 PM
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Yes, at this time Gundogan is no longer young, but on the other hand, he is still quite good and contributive. At Man City itself, he is one of the key players. But even at that age, for Barcelona, Gundogan will certainly have a very positive effect. Especially with his ability as an all-round midfielder, at least, he might still be very helpful for up to 2 seasons later. So, this is also an advantage for Barcelona by getting Gundogan this season to strengthen his squad especially with a free transfer.
İlkay Gündoğan is 32 years old, surely he can play for 1-2 seasons more. A player still can perform with his best until 35 years old, so no problem with his current age. The problem is how he can adapt with Barcelona game style. But I'm very sure that it will be easy for him to adapt with Barcelona game style since Guardiola and Xavi tactics aren't so much different. I also believe that Gündoğan probably give positive impacts on Barcelona. We all know how good he played in Man City last season, he also will do the same in bBarcelona for the next season. I just hope he won't experience an injury problem.

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Gundogan at 32, leaving Manchester City for Barcelona is MCFC Gain, why do i say this? Gundogan is old and past his prime; Barcelona get an ageing players; while MCFC gets a new opportunity to find a younger replacement for the brilliant Talisman. In the end, its a good deal for both sides
I don't think that's the right assessment because he is the team captain at Manchester City and his influence on his departure will of course be felt by the Manchester City team because at an old age of 32 years to be precise, Gundogan career and performance are even better than last season. He even got a great honor from the players of manchester city and city management to give him a new contract. But Gundogan instead chose to leave and refuse Manchester City offer, which of course the management of Manchester City really regretted.

However, all decisions are in Gundogan's hands and it is very likely that after recording many glorious achievements in the Manchester City team, Gundongan is more interested in seeking challenges at his new club and we hope that he can also achieve great success with Barcelona.

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June 23, 2023, 10:03:35 PM
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Gundogan left for free, so it cannot be good for Manchester city because they did not get any money from the transfer, and Gundogan is still good enough to play very well for another 2 or 3 seasons, but it is not too bad for City, he has helped them to achieve so much and the club would not be too disappointed that he decided to go. It is a very good deal for Barca, they did not pay any money for Gundogan and they only have to cover his salary, he will help Barca very well for the next two years.

I wonder if Gundogan will get a signing bonus, because as a free agent he can claim it because with the modern market where average players are bought for 80-100 million, getting such a player for free is a stroke of luck. He is not young, but we can say that he is near the peak and at this level he will play 2 more seasons for sure. I don't know what he was thinking when he chose Barcelona, but I would really like to know.

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June 23, 2023, 11:38:25 PM
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I think this deal will be for another time but not for this transfer window. The likely hoof of it happening is very slim, so Real Madrid have to face the reality and move on to sign another player. Mbappe wants to stay at PSG for at least one more season and PSG don’t want his contract to expire before renewing it. This is why Real Madrid is hopeful that they can sign him this season. Sooner or later before the transfer window closes, the fate of Mbappe and that of Real Madrid would have already been decided by then.
Well, it won't be long before full clarity is made. It seems that Florentino Perez held a meeting with the Emir of Qatar Tamim bin Hamad al Thani on June 21 and agreed on a transfer for 200 million plus a bonus of 50 million if Mbappe wins the Golden Ball. If this is all true, then this is already the highest level of negotiations after which the parties will not be able to back down, so as not to lose face. And the official date of the player's presentation already seems to be set for July 23.
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June 23, 2023, 11:47:15 PM
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İlkay Gündoğan is 32 years old, surely he can play for 1-2 seasons more. A player still can perform with his best until 35 years old, so no problem with his current age. The problem is how he can adapt with Barcelona game style. But I'm very sure that it will be easy for him to adapt with Barcelona game style since Guardiola and Xavi tactics aren't so much different. I also believe that Gündoğan probably give positive impacts on Barcelona. We all know how good he played in Man City last season, he also will do the same in bBarcelona for the next season. I just hope he won't experience an injury problem.

Yes, of course Gundogan can still play until the age of 35 and even more and judging by his character he is a pretty strong player and rarely gets injured. I think barcelona was lucky enough to get Gundogan on a free agent status after his contract ended with manchester city. With sufficient quality, I think Gundogan will be able to bring big changes to Barcelona next season.

For real madrid they haven't found the right replacement for their front line. Because I doubt that Joselu can make a big contribution like Benzema did last season. Will Real Madrid continue to approach Mbappe to strengthen their front line?

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