La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24

[rahmad2nd]

Ansu Fati will never take Messi's place. Messi has been in Barcelona for a long time. He was familiar with any match strategy of Barcelona and was able to adapt himself properly to all the players on the team. Ansu Fati will need a lot of time to join the ranks of a world-class players like Messi. Besides, I don't think he has the same dribbling skills as Messi.

It is unlikely that we will see players like Messi in Barcelona or any other club. Messi is a talent that can be obtained. But you can hardly become like him just by training. Fati is a good player, but he can hardly become like Messi.

My thoughts go completely miles with you. Messi's skills are God-given. Ronaldo is also a great player, but he has acquired this talent through hard work. With hard work maybe Ansu Fati can become a great player. But he can't be like Messi.

Ansu Fati still injury although he was use number ten left by Lionel Messi this season, now waiting with his debut on legendary TEN number on his shirt, will give good performance like Lionel Messi or his number right now make him can't publish his skill, I think Ansu Fati have the same position with Depay and Koeman most likely give left winger position for Depay with many experience player than Ansu Fati still younger player, any possibility happen with Barcelona team composition, maybe Depay as target man and Ansu Fati back on his position as left winger.

[herurist]

Ansu Fati will never take Messi's place. Messi has been in Barcelona for a long time. He was familiar with any match strategy of Barcelona and was able to adapt himself properly to all the players on the team. Ansu Fati will need a lot of time to join the ranks of a world-class players like Messi. Besides, I don't think he has the same dribbling skills as Messi.

It is unlikely that we will see players like Messi in Barcelona or any other club. Messi is a talent that can be obtained. But you can hardly become like him just by training. Fati is a good player, but he can hardly become like Messi.

My thoughts go completely miles with you. Messi's skills are God-given. Ronaldo is also a great player, but he has acquired this talent through hard work. With hard work maybe Ansu Fati can become a great player. But he can't be like Messi.

ansu fati is a pretty good young player and actually there may be some people who are for and against barcelona's decision to give him the legendary jersey number.
But without a doubt, Ansu is a skilled and tenacious young player, now it's just a matter of preparing mentally and inevitably having to be ready to answer the doubts of people who are against Barca's decision to give him the number 10 shirt.
but for now Ansu must completely recover from his injury so he can prove that he deserves to be given the number 10 jersey.

[xzone]

Ansu Fati will never take Messi's place. Messi has been in Barcelona for a long time. He was familiar with any match strategy of Barcelona and was able to adapt himself properly to all the players on the team. Ansu Fati will need a lot of time to join the ranks of a world-class players like Messi. Besides, I don't think he has the same dribbling skills as Messi.

I agree. Messi was one of the most special football players in the world. One of the best for both Barcelona and the world. Ansu Fati is still a very young football player, he has many years ahead of him. I think he is very talented but Messi is a more special football player. We'll see if Ansu can be that successful, I think he may not be that good of a football player

[BITCOIN4X]

Ansu Fati still injury although he was use number ten left by Lionel Messi this season, now waiting with his debut on legendary TEN number on his shirt, will give good performance like Lionel Messi or his number right now make him can't publish his skill,

The this wonderkid looks good wearing the number 10 on his shirt, but I don't think he should be wearing it this season. Barcelona's decision to give the number 10 jersey to Ansu Fati certainly has its reason, I only think about the good things from the player.

He is a young talent among the other young players in the team and I hope Koeman starts to involve him as often as possible in match this season. Like Messi, Ansu Fati is an academy player who is expected to bring a lot of benefits to the team in the long run. But I highly doubt Koeman's ability to handle it.

[sana54210]

Barcelona players were much more dependent on Messi. So the sudden departure of Messi from the team will definitely cause some problems.

You are right. Messi has a big role in the Barcelona team, losing him makes Barcelona unstable. Now, Barcelona expects that they will have another player who can replace Messi's position. But it is not an easy thing, no player in the Barcelona squad has the same nature and ability as Messi. Although they have a shining player like Ansu Fati, it won't be the same as Messi's role, never be as good as Messi ever did.  

I understand that they do not have what it takes because Messi was a super star, probably the best player ever, but they are rebuilding now. Having just 70 million on Messi and 40 million on griezmann is a good enough reason to not have any other decent player ever, and that was their problem, if they didn't pay that much on salary to mess/griezmann combo then they could have done a lot better, they overpaid on salary way too much, half of each would have made the problem go away. Plus, Messi was getting older anyway, and they are not paying that much to an older player.

Now they have Ansu Fati like you said who is 18 years old, but they also have Pedri at 18, de jong at 24, dembele at 24, depay at 27, dest at 20 and some other players. These are all young players that could play maybe as much as 10 years for Barcelona and that is what they are hoping for, they want to see their players stay here for long time and build around them.

[Harkorede]

Ansu Fati will never take Messi's place. Messi has been in Barcelona for a long time. He was familiar with any match strategy of Barcelona and was able to adapt himself properly to all the players on the team. Ansu Fati will need a lot of time to join the ranks of a world-class players like Messi. Besides, I don't think he has the same dribbling skills as Messi.

I agree. Messi was one of the most special football players in the world. One of the best for both Barcelona and the world. Ansu Fati is still a very young football player, he has many years ahead of him. I think he is very talented but Messi is a more special football player. We'll see if Ansu can be that successful, I think he may not be that good of a football player

There will never be another Messi, I'd agree, as there wasn't another Ronaldinho, Eto'o, Xavi or Iniesta... However, Ansu Fati can make a huge name for himself at Barcelona like all these other players mentioned, he's got what it takes to do that, and the fact he got to play a couple of season with Messi too would have impacted his experience. In as much as he's able to get fully fit and stay that way after a long time on the sidelines, he'll sure prove himself worthy to have been tipped as their heir to Messi.

[ILuckyGuyI]

The news that Messi has decided not to renew his contract with Barcelona astounds me. This is awful news for the team's fans as well as the team itself. Without Messi, Barcelona appears to be a team that is no longer a force to be reckoned with, and Laliga will soon be displaced by other European competitions.

No doubt, Messi was a great player which Barcelona's squad depends on when playing matches. But, I don't think Barcelona is no longer strong because of the absence of Messi. Barcelona still have a strong squad, and they have proven that in their last matches, although the season just started. However, it will be difficult for them to replace Messi, because they are experiencing financial difficulties. A team is not supposed to reckon on a player, they now have to work together.

Barcelona players were much more dependent on Messi. So the sudden departure of Messi from the team will definitely cause some problems. Aguero is a talented player. We have seen his extraordinary skills in Manchester City. But his performance depends on how well he adapts to Koeman's tactics.

I agree with your opinion here. Barcelona were building their game on Messi before. But now, they will need to develop a brand new strategy to become successful. Otherwise, they will most probably struggle for some time in the La Liga and the Champions League both. Barcelona have to get accustomed to playing without Messi. Messi was going to retire eventually if he was even still at Barcelona now.

[Minor Miner]

I agree with your opinion here. Barcelona were building their game on Messi before. But now, they will need to develop a brand new strategy to become successful. Otherwise, they will most probably struggle for some time in the La Liga and the Champions League both. Barcelona have to get accustomed to playing without Messi. Messi was going to retire eventually if he was even still at Barcelona now.

In the previous season, Barcelona was dependent on Messi. Moreover, their defense was weak. There is no Messi or Griezmann in Barcelona this season. They are replaced by Depay and Aguero. Depay previously played in Ligue 1 and Aguero in the Premier League. La Liga's strategy is completely different. So if Koeman wants to stabilize the team, he must adopt new tactics. With new tactics with new players maybe he can stabilize the team.

[DU18]

I agree with your opinion here. Barcelona were building their game on Messi before. But now, they will need to develop a brand new strategy to become successful. Otherwise, they will most probably struggle for some time in the La Liga and the Champions League both. Barcelona have to get accustomed to playing without Messi. Messi was going to retire eventually if he was even still at Barcelona now.

it will be a difficult matter for barcelona, ​​because it is not an easy and instant way to change the playing habits of barcelona who depend on messi for more than 17 years and in my opinion messi's move will make barcelona difficult this season.

In the previous season, Barcelona was dependent on Messi. Moreover, their defense was weak. There is no Messi or Griezmann in Barcelona this season. They are replaced by Depay and Aguero. Depay previously played in Ligue 1 and Aguero in the Premier League. La Liga's strategy is completely different. So if Koeman wants to stabilize the team, he must adopt new tactics. With new tactics with new players maybe he can stabilize the team.

Koeman, of course, must quickly change the composition of the team and also the current Barcelona scheme, because previously Barcelona had a composition that could be said to rely too much on the figure of Messi on the front lines and with the release of certain Messi they really had to think of a new strategy with a more balanced attack and defense line, and One option is to maximize new players such as aguero, ansu fati and also depay to ensure attack and defense options remain as flexible as before.

[Kusman]

Atletico Madrid's first match with Griezmann and Suarez is going to be played against Espanyol away this Sunday. I wonder whether Diego Simeone will prefer Griezmann in the starting eleven directly. I guess that he will because Angel Correa is not a striker normally, he is a right winger. He is still scoring goals though.    Anyway, I think that he will start playing on the wing from now on and we will see Griezmann alongside Suarez. And I expect them to defeat Espanyol.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

I agree with your opinion here. Barcelona were building their game on Messi before. But now, they will need to develop a brand new strategy to become successful. Otherwise, they will most probably struggle for some time in the La Liga and the Champions League both. Barcelona have to get accustomed to playing without Messi. Messi was going to retire eventually if he was even still at Barcelona now.

Their tactics is still almost unchanged from Pep Guardiola to Luis Enrique and Ronald Koeman. With big clubs like Barcelona, they will not satisfy to concentrate on La Liga only but you are right, Barcelona now don't have enough resources to play well in Champions League. If they don't concentrate in La Liga, they will lose both.

In the previous season, Barcelona was dependent on Messi. Moreover, their defense was weak. There is no Messi or Griezmann in Barcelona this season. They are replaced by Depay and Aguero. Depay previously played in Ligue 1 and Aguero in the Premier League. La Liga's strategy is completely different. So if Koeman wants to stabilize the team, he must adopt new tactics. With new tactics with new players maybe he can stabilize the team.

Depay has good performance in Barcelona and Netherlands so far. Aguero still struggles with his injury and recovery. The defense of Barcelona is still weak and is not improved as I see. Koeman might lose his job too and the support from Laporta is not big for Koeman so Barcelona will have a challenging season.

The transfer season ended so no more new players and Koeman has to do his job with what he has now.

[bitjoin]

Depay has good performance in Barcelona and Netherlands so far. Aguero still struggles with his injury and recovery. The defense of Barcelona is still weak and is not improved as I see. Koeman might lose his job too and the support from Laporta is not big for Koeman so Barcelona will have a challenging season.

The transfer season ended so no more new players and Koeman has to do his job with what he has now.

Entering the new season will feel strange when we see a Barcelona squad without messi, Koeman job got tougher after Messi left Barcelona, The arrival of several new player such as Depay, Aguero, Eric Garcia and Luuk De Jong was not able to fill the void left by Lionel Messi. If Koeman is not able to get the title next season with the squad he currently has, It is certain that Koeman will lose his job as Barcelona coach.

[jakdanyel]

Depay has good performance in Barcelona and Netherlands so far. Aguero still struggles with his injury and recovery. The defense of Barcelona is still weak and is not improved as I see. Koeman might lose his job too and the support from Laporta is not big for Koeman so Barcelona will have a challenging season.

The transfer season ended so no more new players and Koeman has to do his job with what he has now.

I also like Depay's performance lately. He scored 3 goals and made 1 assist last night against Turkey. I assume that we will see the reflection of this performance in the coming league matches also. Depay will have a big role in the team after Messi and Griezmann both left. It would be great to have Aguero also but he is still injured like you said and he is expected to return on October 16.

[KTChampions]

In the previous season, Barcelona was dependent on Messi. Moreover, their defense was weak. There is no Messi or Griezmann in Barcelona this season. They are replaced by Depay and Aguero. Depay previously played in Ligue 1 and Aguero in the Premier League. La Liga's strategy is completely different. So if Koeman wants to stabilize the team, he must adopt new tactics. With new tactics with new players maybe he can stabilize the team.

I strongly doubt that Barcelona will move away from their historic game (ball control) due to a different set of players, rather they will change players than the game model. By the way, weak defense is an integral part of this model - when the players cannot completely deprive the opponent of the ball, then there are many failures in defense, since all the lines of Barcelona play very high.

[Yogee]

In the previous season, Barcelona was dependent on Messi. Moreover, their defense was weak. There is no Messi or Griezmann in Barcelona this season. They are replaced by Depay and Aguero. Depay previously played in Ligue 1 and Aguero in the Premier League. La Liga's strategy is completely different. So if Koeman wants to stabilize the team, he must adopt new tactics. With new tactics with new players maybe he can stabilize the team.

I strongly doubt that Barcelona will move away from their historic game (ball control) due to a different set of players, rather they will change players than the game model. By the way, weak defense is an integral part of this model - when the players cannot completely deprive the opponent of the ball, then there are many failures in defense, since all the lines of Barcelona play very high.

The same here. Why would they change a proven working system to suit the player's preference? Barcelona's defense and offense lies on their ability to control the ball with precision and decisive passing. Surely the former teams of Aguero and and Depay are also familiar with Tiki-Taka so they should be able to adjust. They must have at least tried it during their practices.

[rahmad2nd]

In the previous season, Barcelona was dependent on Messi. Moreover, their defense was weak. There is no Messi or Griezmann in Barcelona this season. They are replaced by Depay and Aguero. Depay previously played in Ligue 1 and Aguero in the Premier League. La Liga's strategy is completely different. So if Koeman wants to stabilize the team, he must adopt new tactics. With new tactics with new players maybe he can stabilize the team.

I strongly doubt that Barcelona will move away from their historic game (ball control) due to a different set of players, rather they will change players than the game model. By the way, weak defense is an integral part of this model - when the players cannot completely deprive the opponent of the ball, then there are many failures in defense, since all the lines of Barcelona play very high.

The same here. Why would they change a proven working system to suit the player's preference? Barcelona's defense and offense lies on their ability to control the ball with precision and decisive passing. Surely the former teams of Aguero and and Depay are also familiar with Tiki-Taka so they should be able to adjust. They must have at least tried it during their practices.

Still not change with Barcelona style tiki taka passion where ball control and decision how dominance Barcelona passing in every match, I think that passion have been part of Barcelona and never gone although many player left Barcelona, after lost Xavi and Iniesta Barcelona still have style with football passion and dominance ball passion every match, looking character on midfielder of Barcelona Sergio Busquest and De Jong have style with Barcelona style and keep exist few season again.

[hahay]

Atletico Madrid's first match with Griezmann and Suarez is going to be played against Espanyol away this Sunday. I wonder whether Diego Simeone will prefer Griezmann in the starting eleven directly. I guess that he will because Angel Correa is not a striker normally, he is a right winger. He is still scoring goals though.    Anyway, I think that he will start playing on the wing from now on and we will see Griezmann alongside Suarez. And I expect them to defeat Espanyol.

With Atletico without Griezmann, I personally am still very confident that Atletico will win, because from the previous three matches Espanyol have not even been able to score and are without a win. This factor is very different from Atletico who have not lost, with the return of Griezmann, of course Atletico's attack will be even more terrible. With that too, I became very confident that Atletico would be able to defend the title this time and indeed, maybe that's a too soon statement but Griezmann is nothing new at Atletico so it's very likely that Griezmann will get his pattern quickly with Atletico.

[hd49728]

Atletico Madrid's first match with Griezmann and Suarez is going to be played against Espanyol away this Sunday. I wonder whether Diego Simeone will prefer Griezmann in the starting eleven directly. I guess that he will because Angel Correa is not a striker normally, he is a right winger. He is still scoring goals though.    Anyway, I think that he will start playing on the wing from now on and we will see Griezmann alongside Suarez. And I expect them to defeat Espanyol.

I think Simeone will give Griezman more trainings before put him into the squad. If Griezman plays in the match, I believe he will be used as substitution when Atletico already wins the match or if they need a replacement to find goal and three points.

With Atletico without Griezmann, I personally am still very confident that Atletico will win, because from the previous three matches Espanyol have not even been able to score and are without a win. This factor is very different from Atletico who have not lost, with the return of Griezmann, of course Atletico's attack will be even more terrible. With that too, I became very confident that Atletico would be able to defend the title this time and indeed, maybe that's a too soon statement but Griezmann is nothing new at Atletico so it's very likely that Griezmann will get his pattern quickly with Atletico.

It is true and I agree because Griezman shows that he is able to play well in France. He has bad performance in Barcelona but in his national team, he shows different performance. He is different from many players who lost confidence and good performance from club to national team. Griezman only lost it in Barcelona so the return to Atletico will help him and the club.

With Griezman, Atletico will only become stronger than last season.

[masulum]

It is true and I agree because Griezman shows that he is able to play well in France. He has bad performance in Barcelona but in his national team, he shows different performance. He is different from many players who lost confidence and good performance from club to national team. Griezman only lost it in Barcelona so the return to Atletico will help him and the club.

With Griezman, Atletico will only become stronger than last season.

So, thats mean psychotherapy from Simeone, it is very possible for Griezmann to return to his best performance for the club. If we look at the performance of athletico players last season, both in La-Liga and UCL, they have good confidence. I think Simeone's role is very crucial for the mentality of Atletico players. It is very possible that Griezmann will also have better confidence while at Atletico this season,

[Luzin]

I think Simeone will give Griezman more trainings before put him into the squad. If Griezman plays in the match, I believe he will be used as substitution when Atletico already wins the match or if they need a replacement to find goal and three points.

He's still capable of duels, I don't think he's going to be a substitute. Simone should have given him more playing time. It's a mistake for Barca to throw Griezman out, they don't have an experienced striker backing. Of course his move will make Atletico stronger because Simone has an alternative striker. Maybe he can be the key to athletico's victory.