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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.6%)
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January 10, 2022, 11:23:59 PM
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- Athletic doesn't have any chance of being champion and even for UCL they won't make it, they now just need to focus on this at least in the top 5 something that will also be a difficult mission
- barcelona also has no chance of being champion and even to enter the UCL will be a much more difficult mission
Have you checked La Liga standings?
That's okay if you exclude Atletico and Barcelona for competing in the title. But reaching UCL zone isn't too difficult for them, Atletico is in 4th place (UCL zone) and Barcelona is in 6th place. To secure UCL zone, Atletico and Barcelona are competing with Real Betis and Real Sociedad. I am very optimistic that both Atletico and Barcelona have enough capacity to beat those two clubs. Even they are not in the best form, they still have enough time to go back to UCL zone. There are still 18 remaining matches, you shouldn't be afraid that Atletico and Barcelona have no opportunity to beat Real Betis and Real Sociedad.  Wink

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January 11, 2022, 06:18:45 AM
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- Athletic doesn't have any chance of being champion and even for UCL they won't make it, they now just need to focus on this at least in the top 5 something that will also be a difficult mission
- barcelona also has no chance of being champion and even to enter the UCL will be a much more difficult mission
Have you checked La Liga standings?
That's okay if you exclude Atletico and Barcelona for competing in the title. But reaching UCL zone isn't too difficult for them, Atletico is in 4th place (UCL zone) and Barcelona is in 6th place. To secure UCL zone, Atletico and Barcelona are competing with Real Betis and Real Sociedad. I am very optimistic that both Atletico and Barcelona have enough capacity to beat those two clubs. Even they are not in the best form, they still have enough time to go back to UCL zone. There are still 18 remaining matches, you shouldn't be afraid that Atletico and Barcelona have no opportunity to beat Real Betis and Real Sociedad.  Wink

we don't have the foggiest idea what will happen at end, Barcelona can make it happen! As of standings table we can put our trust on them, not exceptionally far to go. Since Barcelona worst performance dispensed with them from Champions League campaign in two decades, they will give their best to secure UCL zone.
Anyway, Real Madrid going to be the runaway bosses this season, yet no team that can give battle.
I think La Liga in this season only left Sevilla as candidate for getting champion after Barcelona and Atletico Madrid not consistent performance, both team have far points from Real Madrid right now although still left almost 17 game but I think almost left 16 points from Real Madrid maybe Atletico Madrid is hard how to get top position again, beside Barcelona have get good news with Umtiti salary and can register Ferran Torres on La Liga still not enough after left more than 17 points from Real Madrid, just waiting with Sevilla only how can be consistent to make Madrid need last game for getting trophy.

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January 11, 2022, 06:49:39 AM
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It was a great performance by Real Madrid last night surely. I was expecting Real Madrid to win this match firstly but maybe it would have been by a close difference. But Real Madrid had no intention to do such thing. They literally demolished Valencia by a 4-1 score. Benzema and Vinicius Junior were just superb. Each one of them scored two goals in this match. And Benzema has consolidated his lead in the top scorers standings by 17 goals. He scored this amount of goals in 20 matches which is really impressive. It is like Benzema is having even his best performance in a season maybe.

I somewhat thought that Valencia might give a hard time to Real Madrid but they got smashed by them Cheesy.
Both Benzema and Vinicius got 2 goals each and Benzema converted a penalty as well. Benzema seems like he is playing his best season as Real seems like crippled without him. Guedes returned a goal in the 76th minute, but till then Real had already won the match and there was nothing Valencia could do then.
Massive performance from brilliant duo Benzema and Vinicius. They have been incredible for Madrid this season. Benzema is really playing fine but i have to give credit to Vinicius Jnr. He has improved every aspect of the game specially the decision making, doing the right thing at the right time is what makes you different and good. I remember that he used to dribble unnecessarily but now he doesn’t do that anymore. Another reason behind his improvement is the chemistry between Benzema and him. Now they two understand each other like never before and as if they have played together for many years. The pair have combined for 29 La Liga goals this season, Benzema hitting 17 and Vinicius scoring 12. That total rises to 36 goals across all competitions. I hope they stay on form and avoid injury till they face PSG in the UCL.
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January 11, 2022, 08:58:41 AM
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It was a great performance by Real Madrid last night surely. I was expecting Real Madrid to win this match firstly but maybe it would have been by a close difference. But Real Madrid had no intention to do such thing. They literally demolished Valencia by a 4-1 score. Benzema and Vinicius Junior were just superb. Each one of them scored two goals in this match. And Benzema has consolidated his lead in the top scorers standings by 17 goals. He scored this amount of goals in 20 matches which is really impressive. It is like Benzema is having even his best performance in a season maybe.
I somewhat thought that Valencia might give a hard time to Real Madrid but they got smashed by them Cheesy.
Both Benzema and Vinicius got 2 goals each and Benzema converted a penalty as well. Benzema seems like he is playing his best season as Real seems like crippled without him. Guedes returned a goal in the 76th minute, but till then Real had already won the match and there was nothing Valencia could do then.
Massive performance from brilliant duo Benzema and Vinicius. They have been incredible for Madrid this season. Benzema is really playing fine but i have to give credit to Vinicius Jnr. He has improved every aspect of the game specially the decision making, doing the right thing at the right time is what makes you different and good. I remember that he used to dribble unnecessarily but now he doesn’t do that anymore. Another reason behind his improvement is the chemistry between Benzema and him. Now they two understand each other like never before and as if they have played together for many years. The pair have combined for 29 La Liga goals this season, Benzema hitting 17 and Vinicius scoring 12. That total rises to 36 goals across all competitions. I hope they stay on form and avoid injury till they face PSG in the UCL.

I remember that Vinicius almost got faded away under Zidane but Anchelloti has turned him into a beast.
I heard in one interview that Anchelloti has just given him one tip, which - "don't touch the ball more than once in the penalty area."
This means that he told him to shoot as soon as he is close to the goal area and now we can see how well Vini Jr has turned out to be. He is assisting and also scoring a lot of goals this season. In fact, he along with Benzema are both on top of the scoring list. Benzema scored 17 goals and Vini Jr scored 12. Incredible evolution of Vinicius in my eyes.




Atletico Madrid are really playing like a total different team from last year, sitting on the 4th position with 33 points the same point with Real Sociedad and just 1 point ahead of Barcelona who’s on 32 points and 16 points behind read Madrid who accrues the 1st position, Atletico Madrid and Barcelona really fell apart this season. Although Barcelona’s position is a bit understanding with all the crises happening in the club and loosing some important players, they know they wouldn’t be able to compete for the title this time around.
But Atletico Madrid are lacking behind in the league thus far and as for Real Madrid, they have been so good this season and I respect them a lot, from the manager down to all the players
Barca will still need at least 2 more seasons to get back on good form.  They have problems in every department. They lack a good striker. They don't have a well-experienced midfielder who can dictate the game. Busquets is getting old and so is Pique in defense and Umtiti is out of form. Ter Stegen is also not so good as he used to be at a time. And an unfortunate result from ATM. Hope they can fix their mistakes and get back to the top 4 again.

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January 11, 2022, 09:06:53 AM
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Sevilla are doing a wonderful job by maintaining their great form lately. They had a home game against Getafe the last time and they won that one also. Maybe it wasn't a comfortable victory but the most important thing is the result of course. We already know that Sevilla likes to play safe. We don't see them winning their games by a big margin very often. Now, they are following Real Madrid 5 points behind and they have one missing game at the same time. They can make this gap 2 suddenly if they win that game. I love this competition for now and I hope that it can continue till the last weeks of the season.

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January 11, 2022, 10:50:42 AM
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Barcelona failed in the match with Granada, Atlético could not beat Villarreal, however this result was fair as Villarreal played very well. Teams from 3rd to 10th place continue to go in a very dense group and after each round their position can change a lot.

The result of the match between Barcelona and Granada is not surprising. Barcelona is still a weak team. Xavi is working hard to stabilize the team. But he cannot succeed. Because there are not enough talented players in the team. They need experienced and talented players. Especially they need a skilled striker. Barcelona has a lot of problems scoring goals.
I thought Atletico Madrid would win against Villarreal. But Atletico's performance was weak. Villarreal have drawn this match though. But I would say they deserve to win this match. They played very well.

Barcelona of course is a weak team now (compared to the past) but not so much as not to be able to beat Granada, right? I think there are more and more questions for Xavi.

The round turned out to be very interesting - out of the first ten teams, only Real, Sevilla and Real Sociedad were able to win. Statistically, this is a fairly rare event.
Barcelona failed in the match with Granada, Atlético could not beat Villarreal, however this result was fair as Villarreal played very well. Teams from 3rd to 10th place continue to go in a very dense group and after each round their position can change a lot.

Sevilla defeated Getafe 1-0, which gave Real Madrid a nightmare.  I expected them to play a comfortable match, but I was wrong.  They scored the goal in the middle of the first half.  Getafe could have given Sevilla a nightmare too.  It's been a good week for Sevilla.  They still have 5 points between Real Madrid.  Moreover, Sevilla is missing a game.  I attribute the low number of victorious teams out of the top 10 to the quality of La Liga.  Even Getafe can beat Real Madrid when it comes to a quality league.  A league open to all scores.

I do not believe that Real is afraid of Sevilla's persecution. Everyone understands that Sevilla does not have the resources to be successful until the very end of the championship and it will have more points loss than Real Madrid. But the failures of Atletico and Barcelona please Real Madrid, since these teams are its real rivals, but have already fallen behind too far and have no chance of returning to the fight.

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January 11, 2022, 12:27:11 PM
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Sevilla are doing a wonderful job by maintaining their great form lately. They had a home game against Getafe the last time and they won that one also. Maybe it wasn't a comfortable victory but the most important thing is the result of course. We already know that Sevilla likes to play safe. We don't see them winning their games by a big margin very often. Now, they are following Real Madrid 5 points behind and they have one missing game at the same time. They can make this gap 2 suddenly if they win that game. I love this competition for now and I hope that it can continue till the last weeks of the season.
Real Madrid have 5 points behind Sevilla but least one match more for Sevilla and depend if success get three points again make most competitive with different two points only, I think is not safety for Madrid because they less chance when loss from Getafe although success defeat Valencia last week. Sevilla looks different in this season after success playing well and keep consistent after 20 games they can keep stable on second position standing. Maybe only Sevilla as competitor for Madrid to get La Liga trophy and keep touch on top performance will see interested for Madrid.

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January 11, 2022, 12:42:14 PM
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Sevilla are doing a wonderful job by maintaining their great form lately. They had a home game against Getafe the last time and they won that one also. Maybe it wasn't a comfortable victory but the most important thing is the result of course. We already know that Sevilla likes to play safe. We don't see them winning their games by a big margin very often. Now, they are following Real Madrid 5 points behind and they have one missing game at the same time. They can make this gap 2 suddenly if they win that game. I love this competition for now and I hope that it can continue till the last weeks of the season.
Real Madrid have 5 points behind Sevilla but least one match more for Sevilla and depend if success get three points again make most competitive with different two points only, I think is not safety for Madrid because they less chance when loss from Getafe although success defeat Valencia last week. Sevilla looks different in this season after success playing well and keep consistent after 20 games they can keep stable on second position standing. Maybe only Sevilla as competitor for Madrid to get La Liga trophy and keep touch on top performance will see interested for Madrid.
This season is indeed quite surprising for all of us, usually the La Liga competition only has Barcelona, ​​Real Madrid and sometimes there is Atletico Madrid which is a contender for the title, but this season, Real Madrid can be said to have run alone to win the trophy and Seville is in place the two may still have the opportunity to catch up with real madrid because they are only 5 points away, I think if sevilla are able to be consistent until the end of the season, it certainly doesn't rule out the possibility that they can become real madrid main competitors this season, and of course apart from being consistent in winning victory, sevilla have to hope that real madrid will slip in their next few matches in la Liga.
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Barca will still need at least 2 more seasons to get back on good form.  They have problems in every department. They lack a good striker. They don't have a well-experienced midfielder who can dictate the game. Busquets is getting old and so is Pique in defense and Umtiti is out of form. Ter Stegen is also not so good as he used to be at a time. And an unfortunate result from ATM. Hope they can fix their mistakes and get back to the top 4 again.

I'm not sure it can be, 2 seasons maybe Barcelona still can't get back to their best performance. Also, Barcelona still have to recover their finances, so Xavi can't make the signings of players as he wishes at will like when Barcelona were under Pep's control, Pep are free to buy players as he want. But for Xavi, he has to think hard to choose quality players, but not burden the finance and this is not enough to do in 1 or 2 seasons.

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Elche won their away game today against espanyol it was totaly unexpected especially after the recent espanyol performance in the league and in the last game against valencia today they seemed really distracted which coasted them two goals in the first 15 minutes unfortunatly they couldn't manage to equalize.

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But even if I have doubts about winning this match, for sure I didn't expect them to lose. Elche was pretty good but if Espanyol doesn't have Joan García as their keeper, I'm sure that things will be different.

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Barca will still need at least 2 more seasons to get back on good form.  They have problems in every department. They lack a good striker. They don't have a well-experienced midfielder who can dictate the game. Busquets is getting old and so is Pique in defense and Umtiti is out of form. Ter Stegen is also not so good as he used to be at a time. And an unfortunate result from ATM. Hope they can fix their mistakes and get back to the top 4 again.

I'm not sure it can be, 2 seasons maybe Barcelona still can't get back to their best performance. Also, Barcelona still have to recover their finances, so Xavi can't make the signings of players as he wishes at will like when Barcelona were under Pep's control, Pep are free to buy players as he want. But for Xavi, he has to think hard to choose quality players, but not burden the finance and this is not enough to do in 1 or 2 seasons.
Right now the main problem of barcelona is bad finances, because if barcelona this season can again improve and balance their finances, I think next season we will see the greatness of the old barcelona will come back again and their will become a team that is feared in europe again, but if the financial condition of barcelona it's still getting worse and even worse in the future, of course it looks like we will see Barcelona change to become like the Levante team and also Espanyol which has been a non-seeded team so far.

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January 11, 2022, 03:56:53 PM
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Right now the main problem of barcelona is bad finances, because if barcelona this season can again improve and balance their finances, I think next season we will see the greatness of the old barcelona will come back again and their will become a team that is feared in europe again, but if the financial condition of barcelona it's still getting worse and even worse in the future, of course it looks like we will see Barcelona change to become like the Levante team and also Espanyol which has been a non-seeded team so far.


If they discuss their internal financial problems, there will be no end.  The condition is already very bad and even deserves to be disbanded since 2021 yesterday.  How can such a big club lose out on its journey so far.  The pandemic is only 2 years old and cannot be used as a fundamental reason for their club.  The best way is that they have to get a large injection of funds to pay off debts due to poor financial management.  Selling the club to investors who are ready to take on the debt.
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Right now the main problem of barcelona is bad finances, because if barcelona this season can again improve and balance their finances, I think next season we will see the greatness of the old barcelona will come back again and their will become a team that is feared in europe again, but if the financial condition of barcelona it's still getting worse and even worse in the future, of course it looks like we will see Barcelona change to become like the Levante team and also Espanyol which has been a non-seeded team so far.


If they discuss their internal financial problems, there will be no end.  The condition is already very bad and even deserves to be disbanded since 2021 yesterday.  How can such a big club lose out on its journey so far.  The pandemic is only 2 years old and cannot be used as a fundamental reason for their club.  The best way is that they have to get a large injection of funds to pay off debts due to poor financial management.  Selling the club to investors who are ready to take on the debt.
The debt that has accumulated due to irregular spending by the club has made Barcelona currently in a pretty bad phase, what you say about the injection of funds,  of course they has get loan as much 455 million euros they got in august last year from investors, but I don't think it's a solution right for Barcelona to be free from bad financial conditions, because with the loan funds it actually made Barcelona add to the club'burden and reportedly they had to put broadcast rights guarantees to these investors and also interest to be paid of 1.98% for 10 years.
I think the only way for barcelona right now to improve the situation is to find new sponsors from the middle east and maybe also have to sell some players and replace them with young players who come from their football academy.

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January 11, 2022, 06:46:07 PM
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If they discuss their internal financial problems, there will be no end.  The condition is already very bad and even deserves to be disbanded since 2021 yesterday.  How can such a big club lose out on its journey so far.  The pandemic is only 2 years old and cannot be used as a fundamental reason for their club.  The best way is that they have to get a large injection of funds to pay off debts due to poor financial management.  Selling the club to investors who are ready to take on the debt.
Even big companies faced disastrous financial problems due to covid although they have much funds. Barcelona was counting on many ressources that was cut suddenly especially supporters tickets, selling soccer related stuffs and so on.. In addition to spending without limit, inflated salaries and buying many useless players, some of them played less than 5 games per season...
Fixing the whole thing doesn't require a lot of effort, get ride of them. The clever solution they got for Umtiti, who refused to leave earlier, is to reduce his salary so he can stay in the club until 2026 in the new contract so Barca can sign another player. Damn cleverness and temporary solutions! This won't help them at all in the long term.

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January 11, 2022, 06:58:40 PM
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Right now the main problem of barcelona is bad finances, because if barcelona this season can again improve and balance their finances, I think next season we will see the greatness of the old barcelona will come back again and their will become a team that is feared in europe again, but if the financial condition of barcelona it's still getting worse and even worse in the future, of course it looks like we will see Barcelona change to become like the Levante team and also Espanyol which has been a non-seeded team so far.


If they discuss their internal financial problems, there will be no end.  The condition is already very bad and even deserves to be disbanded since 2021 yesterday.  How can such a big club lose out on its journey so far.  The pandemic is only 2 years old and cannot be used as a fundamental reason for their club.  The best way is that they have to get a large injection of funds to pay off debts due to poor financial management.  Selling the club to investors who are ready to take on the debt.
The debt that has accumulated due to irregular spending by the club has made Barcelona currently in a pretty bad phase, what you say about the injection of funds,  of course they has get loan as much 455 million euros they got in august last year from investors, but I don't think it's a solution right for Barcelona to be free from bad financial conditions, because with the loan funds it actually made Barcelona add to the club'burden and reportedly they had to put broadcast rights guarantees to these investors and also interest to be paid of 1.98% for 10 years.
I think the only way for barcelona right now to improve the situation is to find new sponsors from the middle east and maybe also have to sell some players and replace them with young players who come from their football academy.

Laporta wants to solve two problems at once. Improve the finances of the club and win cups. The first time there was almost the same situation at the club. But Laporta does not take into account that the prices for the players are higher now, as well as quite a few clubs with very large finances. I think he needs to reduce his ambitions and first solve the problem with the finances of the club, and then think about sports achievements; otherwise, it is highly likely to worsen the situation.
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January 11, 2022, 07:04:01 PM
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And Atletico Madrid really stumbled again. But I get them also as their opponent was way tough for them. Villarreal have been in a far better shape than Atletico Madrid for many weeks seemingly. So it was obvious that Atletico Madrid would have a hard time beating Villarreal. But at least they could have tried more than this. Atletico Madrid's main struggle is with their attacking line. They are just having serious problems when it comes to scoring more goals than they concede.
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January 11, 2022, 07:05:06 PM
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I do not believe that Real is afraid of Sevilla's persecution. Everyone understands that Sevilla does not have the resources to be successful until the very end of the championship and it will have more points loss than Real Madrid. But the failures of Atletico and Barcelona please Real Madrid, since these teams are its real rivals, but have already fallen behind too far and have no chance of returning to the fight.

Real Madrid will not be afraid because their initial enemy when they set foot in La Liga was Barcelona. But Barcelona today is not the Barcelona we saw a few years ago. They don't seem to have anything to be proud of when they play on the pitch. The enthusiasm of the supporters (including myself) is getting worse day by day because indeed everyone realizes what is in front of him is not a scary club. Instead, Barcelona became the subject of ridicule from the audience.

Because so far it is Sevilla who are able to put pressure on the standings, automatically like it or not, Real Madrid will have to face them later. It's still a long time and maybe Sevilla's performance will continue to improve or vice versa.

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January 11, 2022, 07:13:00 PM
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When I look at the current view of the standings of the league, I can see that Real Madrid and Sevilla both have opened a big gap with the rest of the teams. The gap between Real Madrid and Sevilla is 5 points and Sevilla have a match missing. And Sevilla are 10 points ahead of the team at the 3rd position which are Betis now. We are still in the middle of the season and many things can change. But I still don't think that the first two will change until the end. We will just see a competition for the championship between them.

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January 11, 2022, 07:30:58 PM
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Real Madrid will not be afraid because their initial enemy when they set foot in La Liga was Barcelona. But Barcelona today is not the Barcelona we saw a few years ago. They don't seem to have anything to be proud of when they play on the pitch. The enthusiasm of the supporters (including myself) is getting worse day by day because indeed everyone realizes what is in front of him is not a scary club. Instead, Barcelona became the subject of ridicule from the audience.
As long as Barcelona can't improve their financial status then I can't expect their rivalry with Real Madrid to be interesting enough. Without money, Barcelona were forced to use a number of young players who made their strength and quality down. But Barcelona is a team that I always support, but this team must be improved to become the toughest rival of Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid again. If in the previous few seasons people were too tired of their dominance, now is the time for them to feel that Laliga is not as good as it used to be.

Because so far it is Sevilla who are able to put pressure on the standings, automatically like it or not, Real Madrid will have to face them later. It's still a long time and maybe Sevilla's performance will continue to improve or vice versa.
Sevilla are good, but can't really compete with Real Madrid. But Madrid's rivalry with Barcelona is one of the attractions in Laliga.

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January 11, 2022, 07:37:12 PM
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Have you checked La Liga standings?
That's okay if you exclude Atletico and Barcelona for competing in the title. But reaching UCL zone isn't too difficult for them, Atletico is in 4th place (UCL zone) and Barcelona is in 6th place. To secure UCL zone, Atletico and Barcelona are competing with Real Betis and Real Sociedad. I am very optimistic that both Atletico and Barcelona have enough capacity to beat those two clubs. Even they are not in the best form, they still have enough time to go back to UCL zone. There are still 18 remaining matches, you shouldn't be afraid that Atletico and Barcelona have no opportunity to beat Real Betis and Real Sociedad.  Wink

Getting rid of Barcelona and Atletico for now is too early. I agree with you. The difference in class points between number there to seven is not much. Atletico and Barcelona were unstable a few weeks ago. In the last five games they have lost three times. Good development is actually at Barcelona, Since Xavi came Barcelona little changed they have not lost in the last five games. Their chances are still very much, they are better and have the experience to enter the UCL Zone in the final grades. Barcelona still deserve to progress to UCL next season.
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