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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.8%)
Real Madrid - 78 (66.7%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.9%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.9%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.8%)
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January 28, 2022, 03:42:29 PM
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Means that the main problems of Barcelona today are caused by financial management that is less reliable, is not it? Financial stability is of course quite important for a team in managing finances, maybe barcelona are a little luckier if they have realized their club current problems, so that they can fix these problems more quickly now so that it can prevent them from going bankruptcy,  I think it will take a very long time for Barcelona to be able to stabilize the condition of their current team.

Yes, management's failure to manage finances is one of the reasons for their decline because there are indeed a lot of players from Barcelona who can be said to be quite absurd in terms of payments, as in the case of Coutinho and Antoine Griezman.
I think they can actually minimize this if they can manage their money well but it seems it's too late now to realize this

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January 28, 2022, 03:51:00 PM
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Replacing koeman for Xavi is the best decision Barcelona management made and so far there have been lots of improvement. Finishing in the third or fourth place will require lots of commitment and it would mean contending with Athletico Maldrid, Sevilla and Real bettis but Barcelona can do better with xavi leadership as for good performance I will say there have been good ones but all Barcelona needs at the time is more  good finishers who would send their team work to the back of their opponents net

I also think that this was the right call for Barcelona. Because nearly everyone was criticizing his game plan before. Xavi is a much better choice for Barcelona as he is one of their legends. Xavi must be knowing what is good for this team. I know that not all of the team legends manage their teams very well. For example, Solskjaer was too bad this season and he got sacked finally. But I hope that Xavi's end won't be the same and he will build a strong team considering the future.
At least with Xavi in Barcelona, young players are more flexible and easy to respond to how to be on the field when dealing with top-class players. Not expecting too much as Xavi struggles to keep pushing Barcelona's players in line with other top clubs. Look at Xavi awareness of Barcelona's finances, which is indeed in a very crisis condition, in fact, he tries not to pay too much attention to it. Xavi is only focused on building his home club to return to a goal that is in line with their dreams. So the existence of Xavi must really be maintained by the Barcelona manager.

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January 28, 2022, 04:04:27 PM
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Passes are much more productive, and more positive. They're making more crosses into useful areas than other teams. They just need to learn to finish those chances Smiley
I guess they will improve a lot in terms of finishing. Things that can happen over time. Meanwhile, they also announced their new transfer. Adama Traore will boost their wing strength. In terms of finishing, Barcelona need a Lewandowski or Haaland. With a good striker, they can get into a very good situation.

Finishing comes with practice OR with creating more chances when you do not have good strikers or finishers, something like what Manchester City does or even Chelsea. Many poor finishers, but overcome by creating even more chances so that even with a low finish rate you still get 2 goals from 20 chances created Wink

So we don't need a Lewie or Haaland. We need even more Iniestas and Messis. That is our style!

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January 28, 2022, 04:14:27 PM
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Financial trouble faced by Barcelona is not depending with pandemic covid 19 but they have bad problem with player transfer, almost all transfer player Barcelona need paying higher price for each team include bonus when player have achievement with many match with Barcelona, beside they have bad regulation when selling player with lower price, maybe any one still remember what happen with Coutinho transfer where Barcelona paying higher value, then when Barcelona sell Ivan Rakitic to Sevilla with cheapest transfer and I think they need how to change way with transfer player.
Means that the main problems of Barcelona today are caused by financial management that is less reliable, is not it? Financial stability is of course quite important for a team in managing finances, maybe barcelona are a little luckier if they have realized their club current problems, so that they can fix these problems more quickly now so that it can prevent them from going bankruptcy,  I think it will take a very long time for Barcelona to be able to stabilize the condition of their current team.
Barcelona can be ascertained almost bankrupt even the player transfer system is also quite pathetic where a team as big as Barcelona must pay Ferran Torres 10x installments to Manchester City. However, the regulations from La Liga which prohibit foreigners from owning 100% shares in a club give a bad indication for La Liga team's finances, it is very difficult to find investors with minority share ownership. Because all investors in the world of football they want full rights or 100% share ownership like when Manchester City was acquired by entrepreneurs from Qatar.

Actually, the problem which Barcelona faced did not just happen in a day. It's not like they made one bad transfer and went bankrupt, okay?

You have to understand that it happened over time and only came to light when they had to sell Messi.
Before that, a lot of people didn't even know they had a money problem.
And with difficulty finding investors, the situation only worsened.

Now their best way to get out of it is to wait out for a season and save money and then make some moves on the transfer market.

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January 28, 2022, 04:18:07 PM
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I can't say that Barcelona played well in their last game. They drew 1-1 with Granada. They lost 3-2 to Athletic Bilbao. They lost 3-2 to Real Madrid. Alaves barely won 1-0 in the game. They played a really good game in the Real Madrid match, I liked it. However, they could not escape defeat. There is also the possibility of losing in the Atlético Madrid match. They didn't give me a very good team image. They will play a hard match against Atlético.
Barcelona is not that bad if you know how quality the players they have had this season. So you have to think of them as a different team from the previous Barcelona if you don't want to be disappointed with the final result they have had this season.

Barcelona are still a big team in Laliga, but they no longer have a good player to become a team icon that other players and coaches count on before a match gets underway. Without Messi, Barcelona struggles to score goals, that's the most obvious thing we've found at Barcelona this season. There are too many problems for Xavi to solve this season, he really needs a lot of time to get Barcelona back to their best. But I hope Barcelona can beat Atletico Madrid next week.

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January 28, 2022, 04:51:07 PM
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I can't say that Barcelona played well in their last game. They drew 1-1 with Granada. They lost 3-2 to Athletic Bilbao. They lost 3-2 to Real Madrid. Alaves barely won 1-0 in the game. They played a really good game in the Real Madrid match, I liked it. However, they could not escape defeat. There is also the possibility of losing in the Atlético Madrid match. They didn't give me a very good team image. They will play a hard match against Atlético.
Barcelona is not that bad if you know how quality the players they have had this season. So you have to think of them as a different team from the previous Barcelona if you don't want to be disappointed with the final result they have had this season.

Barcelona are still a big team in Laliga, but they no longer have a good player to become a team icon that other players and coaches count on before a match gets underway. Without Messi, Barcelona struggles to score goals, that's the most obvious thing we've found at Barcelona this season. There are too many problems for Xavi to solve this season, he really needs a lot of time to get Barcelona back to their best. But I hope Barcelona can beat Atletico Madrid next week.
Next week against Atletico Madrid with all the preparations already quite good. Since there is no match scheduled for almost 1 week they have prepared everything that might have made a lot of changes. Xavi hard work always pays off, even if it's not significant. Over time, Barcelona will surely show their abilities by themselves.

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January 28, 2022, 04:59:39 PM
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This all is not for just some reason, it's all because recently Barcelona is doing very good in last five matches they have 11 points and Atletico Madrid is having only 7 points with have two defeats against Sevilla and Granada. Barcelona having some problems, but recently they are improving very rapidly and have many matches without any defeat, so they can beat Atletico Madrid and can grab their four spot which is very important for them.
After this they can think about some more good results and can bring down Betis because they are also having some struggling time and can through few points which are very valuable for Barcelona and their cause. This is massive achievement from them as they are facing some worst time on and off the field with knocked out from Champions League as well.
If you take the last five matches for Barcelona, you can see that they have only two wins + two losses and one draw (each loss resulted in relegation from the respective cup) https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/65/Fixtures/Spain-Barcelona
Atlético have an absolutely identical picture: https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/63/Fixtures/Spain-Atletico-Madrid
But given what I wrote above (Atletico in a temporary crisis, and Barcelona in a systemic one), I think that Atlético will easily win this match.
when I think Barcelona might be the winners, I feel like Atletico Madrid has a better chance and vice versa.
But I want to think of it in simple terms. If Barcelona wins they will be in the top four and if Atletico Madrid wins they will be able to hold their 4th position.
So, for Barcelona, it's a really important game. And also for Xavi as well. Because if Barcelona loses this they are in big trouble.


Replacing koeman for Xavi is the best decision Barcelona management made and so far there have been lots of improvement. Finishing in the third or fourth place will require lots of commitment and it would mean contending with Athletico Maldrid, Sevilla and Real bettis but Barcelona can do better with xavi leadership as for good performance I will say there have been good ones but all Barcelona needs at the time is more  good finishers who would send their team work to the back of their opponents net
I also think that this was the right call for Barcelona. Because nearly everyone was criticizing his game plan before. Xavi is a much better choice for Barcelona as he is one of their legends. Xavi must be knowing what is good for this team. I know that not all of the team legends manage their teams very well. For example, Solskjaer was too bad this season and he got sacked finally. But I hope that Xavi's end won't be the same and he will build a strong team considering the future.
Xavi, in my opinion, is one of the best things that has happened to Barcelona in recent times, and I give Xavi a lot of credit for this.
Not every manager wants to start their career with a team which is drowning, but he did.

Now Barcelona has to realize that their glory days are behind them, at least for some time. They have to grind and get better. also, they have to trust Xavi. He took Barcelona out of the hole that they were in and made them compete at a higher level again. I'm sure he can do great things with the team in the future too.

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January 28, 2022, 05:33:02 PM
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With the arrival of Ferran Torres and Adama Traore, Barcelona will have many options to hurt defender's.
Xavi Hernandez is a master planner and I know he'll get the best out of them both from the flanks.
What's more they need is to handle the defending issues, yes they score goals, but then they still conceive too many goals... I ain't see no game since the appointment if Xavi as head Coach that they didn't conceive, maybe I didn't get to watch that game.

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January 28, 2022, 05:43:36 PM
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Barcelona is one of the big clubs that has continued to make achievements in the last 10 years, their prowess in winning the title so far is no longer in doubt and with Barcelona achievements like that of course they are an attraction for investors to become club sponsors, but strangely during the pandemic it came in fact that barcelona had a strong impact and it can be said if maybe they could have disbanded at that time, I think the problem of barcelona now lies in their poor financial management and it looks like barcelona need to make a major overhaul of their management so that the same thing doesn't happen in the future next later.
Not this season, we have seen how the condition of Barcelona this season. The achievements that have been carved for the last 10 years began to fade after their performance was destroyed, Lionel Messi departure adds to the wounds on Barcelona body, coupled with the financial crisis they are facing. Barcelona should be active in the upcoming transfer market to strengthen the team, the problem is that their finances are not enough to recruit star players.
An injection of fresh funds is urgently needed at this time. Barcelona management must immediately find a way out to overcome the problems they face, They could sell players like Coutinho, Dembele or Pedri if there were no new investors willing to work with them.

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January 28, 2022, 05:46:39 PM
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I guess they will improve a lot in terms of finishing. Things that can happen over time. Meanwhile, they also announced their new transfer. Adama Traore will boost their wing strength. In terms of finishing, Barcelona need a Lewandowski or Haaland. With a good striker, they can get into a very good situation.
I agree, but the financial problem of barcelona was responsible for this all the embarrassment that they are going through, if barcelona had managed well his financial, today they would be very well, they would not be going through all these humiliations. honestly i wonder if they vso manage to get out dess situation to early, it seems to me that they will be so for more years
Financial problems could happen with each team, there is nothing wrong with that. The main problem was getting into that financial trouble and seeing no benefits of it. If you are a team that won champions league very recently, dominated the league as well, got a few national cups and all of that in return of being in huge debt then it is understandable.

You basically put yourself into financial trouble in return of success and that would be something fans would agree with. However, Barcelona not only got into financial trouble, but they also didn't get anything decent neither, that is the main problem they are facing right now, which is the big problem.

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January 28, 2022, 05:58:23 PM
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Next week against Atletico Madrid with all the preparations already quite good. Since there is no match scheduled for almost 1 week they have prepared everything that might have made a lot of changes. Xavi hard work always pays off, even if it's not significant. Over time, Barcelona will surely show their abilities by themselves.
Xavi managed to improve the mentality of Barcelona players to fight despite struggling to win matches. I agree that not everything he wanted worked out this quickly, he needed time and brought Barcelona back to their best.

Maybe if problem from player quality on Barcelona why last month Ronald Koeman have out and replace by Xavi Hernandez? why not management try to give much money for Ronald Koeman get new player.
Ronald Koeman had enough time to try his strategy at Barcelona. He has made many changes and also he has managed to bring a setback to Barcelona where when he was no longer at Barcelona Messi, Suarez, Rakitic, Vidal and several other important players also left.

Koeman doesn't have the philosophy of play that Barcelona are hoping for, but Xavi has it although at the moment he's only trying it with a few senior players and a lot of his academy players. Take a look at what he has put into Barcelona's performances and compare it to what Koeman has done for Barcelona in recent seasons.

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January 28, 2022, 06:39:14 PM
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Koeman doesn't have the philosophy of play that Barcelona are hoping for, but Xavi has it although at the moment he's only trying it with a few senior players and a lot of his academy players. Take a look at what he has put into Barcelona's performances and compare it to what Koeman has done for Barcelona in recent seasons.
This is what I like about Xavi so far, he is trying to bring in senior players he has struggled with in order to motivate the young players and also to give their contribution to help Xavi educate the next generation of Barcelona in 5 years. It's not seen at this time but with their potential that is quite prominent, we will definitely see Barcelona will appear with training results that are not in vain. Then what I like about Xavi is his unselfishness in receiving input from senior players that he deliberately installs at Barca's current club. So that Xavi lack of reading the opponent's strategy can be helped by Alves.

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January 28, 2022, 07:44:16 PM
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Koeman doesn't have the philosophy of play that Barcelona are hoping for, but Xavi has it although at the moment he's only trying it with a few senior players and a lot of his academy players. Take a look at what he has put into Barcelona's performances and compare it to what Koeman has done for Barcelona in recent seasons.
This is what I like about Xavi so far, he is trying to bring in senior players he has struggled with in order to motivate the young players and also to give their contribution to help Xavi educate the next generation of Barcelona in 5 years. It's not seen at this time but with their potential that is quite prominent, we will definitely see Barcelona will appear with training results that are not in vain. Then what I like about Xavi is his unselfishness in receiving input from senior players that he deliberately installs at Barca's current club. So that Xavi lack of reading the opponent's strategy can be helped by Alves.

Xavi has no choice at the moment. That's why he uses old players. They can hardly bring anything new to the team. In Xavi's place, I have already used more young players to quickly introduce my game tactics and test their abilities. But alas, Xavi must also win to get into the Champions League next year. He cannot buy new players due to financial constraints .
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January 28, 2022, 07:51:14 PM
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I can't say that Barcelona played well in their last game. They drew 1-1 with Granada. They lost 3-2 to Athletic Bilbao. They lost 3-2 to Real Madrid. Alaves barely won 1-0 in the game. They played a really good game in the Real Madrid match, I liked it. However, they could not escape defeat. There is also the possibility of losing in the Atlético Madrid match. They didn't give me a very good team image. They will play a hard match against Atlético.
Barcelona is not that bad if you know how quality the players they have had this season. So you have to think of them as a different team from the previous Barcelona if you don't want to be disappointed with the final result they have had this season.

Barcelona are still a big team in Laliga, but they no longer have a good player to become a team icon that other players and coaches count on before a match gets underway. Without Messi, Barcelona struggles to score goals, that's the most obvious thing we've found at Barcelona this season. There are too many problems for Xavi to solve this season, he really needs a lot of time to get Barcelona back to their best. But I hope Barcelona can beat Atletico Madrid next week.
The problem now is that there are so many football fans and fans who always see them at the top and when their performance declines of course this will be highlighted because they played beyond expectations this season.
Barcelona is still Barcelona, which will be one of the big teams in La Liga, but indeed we cannot compare their players with their golden era a few seasons ago, although there will always be comparisons there.

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January 28, 2022, 08:10:04 PM
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Sevilla are continuing their determined behaviour in the La Liga for the title. They lost two points the last time but thankfully Real Madrid did the same too. I believe that Sevilla are much better than the last season now. They are completely focused on the La Liga title as it seems but they have a big rival ahead of them which is Real Madrid. The current gap is still four points and Sevilla will have to maintain a winning streak to have a chance for the title. But I still feel like Real Madrid will make it this year.

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January 28, 2022, 08:21:42 PM
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Sevilla are continuing their determined behaviour in the La Liga for the title. They lost two points the last time but thankfully Real Madrid did the same too. I believe that Sevilla are much better than the last season now. They are completely focused on the La Liga title as it seems but they have a big rival ahead of them which is Real Madrid. The current gap is still four points and Sevilla will have to maintain a winning streak to have a chance for the title. But I still feel like Real Madrid will make it this year.
So far it's obvious the title is been sought for by Sevilla and Real Maldrid but it seems Maldrid is more prepared to lift up the trophy. Real Betis can only make attempts but I'm not too sure of their strength to contend for the title this season. Laliga has lost its competitiveness and it's becoming too boring to an extent. Sevilla needed a win to atleast take advantage of getting more closer to Maldrid but ended up in a draw with celta vigo
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January 28, 2022, 08:28:11 PM
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If I'm to talk about the big game next week which is Barcelona - Atletico Madrid, I can say that I don't have a clear favourite. The reason is that obviously none of these teams have been impressive this season so far. This makes things difficult for people to be sure of a prediction about this game. Maybe Atletico Madrid are going to play an away game but they can win this game too. These teams both are really inconsistent and we never know how good they will be in Camp Nou. If Atletico Madrid have a defensive game, then we could watch a really boring game.

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January 28, 2022, 08:35:46 PM
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Barcelona can be ascertained almost bankrupt even the player transfer system is also quite pathetic where a team as big as Barcelona must pay Ferran Torres 10x installments to Manchester City. However, the regulations from La Liga which prohibit foreigners from owning 100% shares in a club give a bad indication for La Liga team's finances, it is very difficult to find investors with minority share ownership. Because all investors in the world of football they want full rights or 100% share ownership like when Manchester City was acquired by entrepreneurs from Qatar.

I think Barcelona is far from bankrupt - their debt is a little more than their annual budget, but they spend their annual budget in a year, and debt repayment is stretched over time. As for the difficulties with the sale of the club, it is easy to get around them, for example, create a Spanish company that will buy the club, and the shares of the created company will belong to a foreigner. The issue is that the management of Barcelona is not considering selling the club.
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January 28, 2022, 09:28:33 PM
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The Barcelona - Atletico Madrid game next week is a derby-like game for sure. It is not very good to see both of these teams struggling in this season but they are at least trying to climb to upper levels in the standings now. They both don't seem very credible teams in general but they both have a good form recently. Maybe they barely win their games but it is crucial to win as many games as possible for recovering in the end. Barcelona are favoured by bookmakers. And I also feel like they might win by a close margin.
The upcoming match between Barcelona and Atletico is very interesting to see because they are trying to secure their position in the top 4. Also, the point gap between Barcelona and Atletico is only 1, which team to win the match will be in UCL zone temporarily. Both have the chance to win, especially Barcelona to play in their home. Barcelona players will have more motivation to win since they play at their stadium. But I don't think Barcelona to get 3 points, the result will be a draw or a winning for Atletico Madrid.

Anyway, we can't judge these teams not credible, we have no reasons to claim it. Both Atletico and Barcelona are still top clubs in Spain, they have good players in their squad. Although they are not in first or second place anymore, doesn't mean they are not credible teams.

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January 28, 2022, 09:46:39 PM
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If you take the last five matches for Barcelona, you can see that they have only two wins + two losses and one draw (each loss resulted in relegation from the respective cup) https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/65/Fixtures/Spain-Barcelona
Atlético have an absolutely identical picture: https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/63/Fixtures/Spain-Atletico-Madrid
But given what I wrote above (Atletico in a temporary crisis, and Barcelona in a systemic one), I think that Atlético will easily win this match.
when I think Barcelona might be the winners, I feel like Atletico Madrid has a better chance and vice versa.
But I want to think of it in simple terms. If Barcelona wins they will be in the top four and if Atletico Madrid wins they will be able to hold their 4th position.
So, for Barcelona, it's a really important game. And also for Xavi as well. Because if Barcelona loses this they are in big trouble.

But if Atlético lose their fourth place then they too will be in huge trouble, even though Atlético are still the reigning champions. Taking into account the fact that no one left the team in Atlético, and the team was not in crisis, it can be assumed that, theoretically, one can understand the failure of Barcelona, but one cannot understand the failure of Atlético. If you think in this way, it turns out that Atlético is on the edge of the abyss and not Barcelona, so they need a victory more.

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