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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.6%)
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June 29, 2022, 02:05:02 PM
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I'm already confused about the price of Lewandowski - they write that Barcelona offers 30, and Bavaria wants 40. The other day they write that Bayern wants 50 and Barcelona offers 40. But the most confusing is the position of Barcelona - on the one hand, they offer money, on the other hand, they seem to have no money and they offer to wait a couple of months until they find it  Grin In my opinion, this is turning into some kind of farce.

It is true that Barcelona is in a financial crisis. However, the Barcelona management will do their best to take Lewandowski in the team. If necessary, they will want to take Lewandowski in the team even if he takes a loan. Because Xavi's goal is to win the title next season, they definitely need a striker like Lewandowski. However, Barcelona may not be able to spend too much money now.

I would like to know where such ideas come from  Roll Eyes Next year, Barcelona will fight for the top 4 (a ticket to the Champions League) and to qualify from the group in the Champions League to the next stage and, if possible, not be destroyed in the 1/8 finals. This is their maximum. By the way, the other day even Koeman said that Barcelona lives in the past and the Tiki-Taka strategy is outdated. But as you know, Xavi is not going to give it up.
However, this is the right moment for Barcelona to continue to offer prices to Bayern Munich, because Lewandowski himself wants to leave Bayern Munich because his salary is not increased. Therefore, with Lewandowski himself stating that he wants to play for Barcelona next season, then of course Barcelona will continue to do their best to recruit Lewandowski. With fresh funds that will be obtained from the transfer of Frenkie De Jong to Manchester United with cash funds of around 65 million Euros, then of course this value is sufficient to pay Bayern Munich the desired value of 50 million Euros.

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June 29, 2022, 02:06:23 PM
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So far no name is expected to replace de Jong if he leaves, but maybe Barcelona are still counting on Sergio Busquets in the center of the gavi and Pedri will help out on the right and left. I'm not too worried about the position in front of Barcelona next season because it might be help by Aubameyang, but I'm a little worried about the position defender Barcelona after loss Alves is confirmed. Gerard Pique has also rarely been seen play, So can Barcelona survive next season? because if I'm not mistaken Barcelona will start the season from 4th position in the standings.
If you look at the situation at Barcelona's back line, of course they have to spend some money to transport players who will guard their defense. But that's the real problem they face, the lack of capital to sign new players. Rumors about Lewandowski alone have so far not been resolved because of that. Xavi had to rack his brain to be able to fix it all.

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June 29, 2022, 02:20:06 PM
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By the way, the other day even Koeman said that Barcelona lives in the past and the Tiki-Taka strategy is outdated. But as you know, Xavi is not going to give it up.

No, tiki taka is a lot of fun. I really like that, although I understand today football is the end result. I think there is no end to tiki taka, they just need to add variety to dismantle the bus parking and add defenders who are still young so they can kill counter attacks. I think they are still good enough for next season. They are not finished, they have the same chances as other clubs because Xavi came.

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June 29, 2022, 02:34:32 PM
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By the way, the other day even Koeman said that Barcelona lives in the past and the Tiki-Taka strategy is outdated. But as you know, Xavi is not going to give it up.

No, tiki taka is a lot of fun. I really like that, although I understand today football is the end result. I think there is no end to tiki taka, they just need to add variety to dismantle the bus parking and add defenders who are still young so they can kill counter attacks. I think they are still good enough for next season. They are not finished, they have the same chances as other clubs because Xavi came.

I am no longer a fan of tiki taka,  and I agree with Koeman that Barcelona lives in the past. There is no type of football than what Real Madrid and the likes of Liverpool play. Pass the ball forward to your opponent's half and get the goal.
Arsenal was busy with the tiki taka style, before they knew it  they lost both the tiki and the taka.
I know that it's the type of football that Xavi loves and understands, but he should also find alternative.
I even prefer samba football to tiki taka.

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June 29, 2022, 02:41:45 PM
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Worth it because so far Robert Lewandowski has become one of the best players in the Bundesliga. Speaking of numbers, at least it's estimated that Barcelona will get what they paid for.

Barcelona did that, offering to bring Luis Suarez back to Camp Nou from Atletico Madrid but the result was rejected by Luis Suarez. And that's a natural thing in my opinion as a form of disappointment over Suarez's loan agreement to Atletico Madrid some time ago.

Barcelona desperately need a striker to complete it next season, and no other name than Lewandowski is being targeted.

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June 29, 2022, 03:15:54 PM
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Worth it because so far Robert Lewandowski has become one of the best players in the Bundesliga. Speaking of numbers, at least it's estimated that Barcelona will get what they paid for.

Barcelona did that, offering to bring Luis Suarez back to Camp Nou from Atletico Madrid but the result was rejected by Luis Suarez. And that's a natural thing in my opinion as a form of disappointment over Suarez's loan agreement to Atletico Madrid some time ago.

Barcelona desperately need a striker to complete it next season, and no other name than Lewandowski is being targeted.

It is obviously good that Barcelona is really serious about their improvement as a team. But spending 50 million for a player who is 34 also under the current financial situation of Barcelona is in no way justifiable. We have seen Barcelona bring in Philippe Coutinho for a huge amount of money and that backfired really badly. Yes, sometimes transfers can go wrong and not produce the result that is expected but right now is it worth taking the risk and spending 50 million on a player who might not give a service for a long time to the club.
Lewandowski has become the main target in the Barcelona transfer process this season, we as football lovers certainly cannot understand the policy taken by the Barcelona management where they plan to hijack the 34-year-old player from Bayern Munich, according to the sources I read today. Munich pays a price of 50 million pounds.of course it's not a small amount considering that Lewandowski is already 30+, moreover Barcelona is going through a financial crisis and we know that they very rarely bring players with an age who are no longer young to the Camp Nou, even though Barcelona is currently in crisis. maybe there is no other option other than the player with the Polish passport

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June 29, 2022, 03:31:07 PM
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Worth it because so far Robert Lewandowski has become one of the best players in the Bundesliga. Speaking of numbers, at least it's estimated that Barcelona will get what they paid for.

Barcelona did that, offering to bring Luis Suarez back to Camp Nou from Atletico Madrid but the result was rejected by Luis Suarez. And that's a natural thing in my opinion as a form of disappointment over Suarez's loan agreement to Atletico Madrid some time ago.

Barcelona desperately need a striker to complete it next season, and no other name than Lewandowski is being targeted.

It is obviously good that Barcelona is really serious about their improvement as a team. But spending 50 million for a player who is 34 also under the current financial situation of Barcelona is in no way justifiable. We have seen Barcelona bring in Philippe Coutinho for a huge amount of money and that backfired really badly. Yes, sometimes transfers can go wrong and not produce the result that is expected but right now is it worth taking the risk and spending 50 million on a player who might not give a service for a long time to the club.
I think the high price tag is very reasonable for Lewandowski, quality-wise he is still very good, there's no doubting that.
even though he is 34 years old but in terms of quality he is still very good, Lewandowski has proven it last season, I don't think Lewandowski should be messed with Countinho who failed to shine with Barcelona, because a midfielder will be very difficult to develop if his game does not match the tactics coach, as opposed to a striker. I have no doubt that Lewandowski will be a big influence for Barcelona.
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You just said Barcelona need extra players, Otherwise their midfield will remain weak. Frenkie de Jong is in the midfield position, losing de jong will only burden the barcelona midfield. And barcelona has a shortage of players, not a surplus of players, right. 85 million euros will not be enough, because barcelona signed de jong with 75 million euros from ajax, plus manchester united also have to take over or replace Frenkie de Jong's two season contract remaining at barcelona, so i think barcelona have not agreed on that value.
This is a dilemma for Barcelona in my opinion, because on the other hand they need money by selling their players, on the other hand they will lose one of their players who I think contributed to them. But if Frenkie De Jong didn't get into Xavi's scheme of play I think they would really sell him. But who will they bring in to replace De Jong's departure?

Barcelona's plan to sell Frenkie de Jong to get some money and look for new players who are cheaper for the midfield position. Bernardo Silva from Manchester City is Xavi target, he really likes Silva style of play. Xavi is really in a dilemma with this condition, on the one hand Barcelona need money from the sale of De Jong, on the other hand Xavi is afraid after De Jong left that he cannot sign Bernardo Silva.
Xavi must be careful with the decisions that will be taken, if Barcelona go the wrong way, they will find it difficult to compete with other clubs in the fight for the title.

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June 29, 2022, 03:44:53 PM
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However, this is the right moment for Barcelona to continue to offer prices to Bayern Munich, because Lewandowski himself wants to leave Bayern Munich because his salary is not increased. Therefore, with Lewandowski himself stating that he wants to play for Barcelona next season, then of course Barcelona will continue to do their best to recruit Lewandowski. With fresh funds that will be obtained from the transfer of Frenkie De Jong to Manchester United with cash funds of around 65 million Euros, then of course this value is sufficient to pay Bayern Munich the desired value of 50 million Euros.
I read today that Barcelona have already made a third offer for Lewandowski, this time they offered a price of 40 million euro and a bonus of 5 million for player. while Bayern are ready to let Lewandowski go for a price of 50 million euros, it can be assumed that this transfer can still take place. It was also mentioned that Lewandowski himself wants to move to Barcelona, and is even ready to boycott Bayern if they do not want to let him go.

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June 29, 2022, 04:47:02 PM
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I think the price is still too high for Barcelona or even for anyone interested in him, the main consideration is that he is 34 years old. Even though Lewandowski is a great player, I don't think Bayern Munich should sell him that much just to make a big profit. I just hope Barcelona cancle their interest in Lewandowski and wait until the end of next season because Lewandowsi will be available for free later.
If Barcelona continue to pursue Lewandowski in this summer's market then I'm sure Bayern Munich will not reduce the value of his transfer. Lewandowski is not comparable to Ronaldo and Messi, so his selling price shouldn't be that high at 34 years old.

Robert Lewandowski is not a bad player. I was also a little amazed to see his interest to play for Barcelona. But after all, it comes down to only one thing. Barcelona should not pay anything close to 50 million for a player who is aged. If this was the Barcelona of five or six years ago I think this would not have been a problem. But now if this transfer does not work it is going to be a very big problem for Barcelona. Bayern Munich is obviously going to bait Barcelona into spending more money for these players but Barcelona really should not get baited.



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June 29, 2022, 05:10:30 PM
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However, this is the right moment for Barcelona to continue to offer prices to Bayern Munich, because Lewandowski himself wants to leave Bayern Munich because his salary is not increased. Therefore, with Lewandowski himself stating that he wants to play for Barcelona next season, then of course Barcelona will continue to do their best to recruit Lewandowski. With fresh funds that will be obtained from the transfer of Frenkie De Jong to Manchester United with cash funds of around 65 million Euros, then of course this value is sufficient to pay Bayern Munich the desired value of 50 million Euros.
Lewandowski transfer to Barcelona will occur after Frenkie De Jong transfer, makes a sense because the fresh funds received were recorded as more than enough for Barcelona to pay Bayern offer. Xavi main target is the UCL Title and sponsors also Investors if the club can bring a dream team like Lewandowski to play it sparks positive vibes, maybe slowly at the start of next season there will be a lot of sponsors for this club.

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June 29, 2022, 05:21:17 PM
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However, this is the right moment for Barcelona to continue to offer prices to Bayern Munich, because Lewandowski himself wants to leave Bayern Munich because his salary is not increased. Therefore, with Lewandowski himself stating that he wants to play for Barcelona next season, then of course Barcelona will continue to do their best to recruit Lewandowski. With fresh funds that will be obtained from the transfer of Frenkie De Jong to Manchester United with cash funds of around 65 million Euros, then of course this value is sufficient to pay Bayern Munich the desired value of 50 million Euros.
I read today that Barcelona have already made a third offer for Lewandowski, this time they offered a price of 40 million euro and a bonus of 5 million for player. while Bayern are ready to let Lewandowski go for a price of 50 million euros, it can be assumed that this transfer can still take place. It was also mentioned that Lewandowski himself wants to move to Barcelona, and is even ready to boycott Bayern if they do not want to let him go.
Lewandowski transfer saga continues to be a matter of speculation and there continues to be tug-of-war between Barcelona and Bayern Munich, Barcelona have now indeed made their third bid with a larger nominal because they are very confident that if a deal of De Jong will happen soon with manchester, Lewandowski desire to leave should be respected by bayern munchen because so far Lewandowski services to bayern munchen have been very big, I think barcelona will be the right team for him to continue his career before he retires.
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June 29, 2022, 05:25:27 PM
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Lewandowski transfer to Barcelona will occur after Frenkie De Jong transfer, makes a sense because the fresh funds received were recorded as more than enough for Barcelona to pay Bayern offer. Xavi main target is the UCL Title and sponsors also Investors if the club can bring a dream team like Lewandowski to play it sparks positive vibes, maybe slowly at the start of next season there will be a lot of sponsors for this club.
Even if Lewandowski is one of the best strikers at the moment, but I still doubt his high market value. He would be good for Barcelona, ​​but he is too expensive if his age is a valuation aspect. Maybe only Barcelona are willing to buy him at such an expensive price, while other teams are more waiting for him to be free transfer next season.

I'm certainly happy if Barcelona are able to bring Lewandowski to the Camp Nou, it must be appreciated. But due to poor financial conditions, I hope they have to be more careful in selecting players and considering the consequences. If Barcelona are willing and able to buy him, then I will support that bold move at this time.

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June 29, 2022, 05:30:56 PM
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Robert Lewandowski is not a bad player. I was also a little amazed to see his interest to play for Barcelona. But after all, it comes down to only one thing. Barcelona should not pay anything close to 50 million for a player who is aged. If this was the Barcelona of five or six years ago I think this would not have been a problem. But now if this transfer does not work it is going to be a very big problem for Barcelona. Bayern Munich is obviously going to bait Barcelona into spending more money for these players but Barcelona really should not get baited.
Barcelona will do everything possible to land Lewandowski this summer. Barcelona need Lewandowski or a lone striker to start next season, Xavi is even very optimistic that Barcelona can get the Bayern superstar signature in this transfer window. Several attempts have been made in this signing, one of which was Barcelona increasing the budget clause to convince Bayern Munich to accept their proposal. Lewandowski is only under contract for one more season with Bayern Munich, if Bayern do not want to accept Barcelona offer of course Bayern Munich will release Lewandowski for free next season.
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June 29, 2022, 05:51:56 PM
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It's not worth paying 40 million for a player who is already 34 if the player is not Lewandowski. Why? because behind Lewandowski's 40 million price, there are other goals that can give Barcelona profits, in my opinion, such as selling jerseys and other merchandise.

It is impossible for Luis Suarez to return to Barcelona because the basis of Suarez's sale to Atletico Madrid is because he is no longer young and Barcelona needs younger players because of Barca's busy schedule. I think you still remember the reason why Barcelona officials let Luis Suarez off a few years ago.

I'm already confused about the price of Lewandowski - they write that Barcelona offers 30, and Bavaria wants 40. The other day they write that Bayern wants 50 and Barcelona offers 40. But the most confusing is the position of Barcelona - on the one hand, they offer money, on the other hand, they seem to have no money and they offer to wait a couple of months until they find it  Grin In my opinion, this is turning into some kind of farce.
What seems like a joke is not in the desire to sign Lewandowski in my opinion, but in the negotiation process with Manchester United who want Frenkie De Jong who has not got a deal to date. I think this is the reason Barcelona have not agreed with Manchester United's offer and asked for a higher price to get De Jong.

Barcelona must release a player who has an important role in the team to be able to get funds and the sale of Frenkie De Jong could be a solution to get Lewandowski.

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June 29, 2022, 07:23:55 PM
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What seems like a joke is not in the desire to sign Lewandowski in my opinion, but in the negotiation process with Manchester United who want Frenkie De Jong who has not got a deal to date. I think this is the reason Barcelona have not agreed with Manchester United's offer and asked for a higher price to get De Jong.

Barcelona must release a player who has an important role in the team to be able to get funds and the sale of Frenkie De Jong could be a solution to get Lewandowski.
Does it worth it though? Would you prefer to have De Jong who is a young star player, or would you prefer to have Lewandowski who is arguably better of course but at the same time he is very old. I mean if we are talking about it financially then I would keep De Jong instead because he could worth a lot more in the future.

Although if they think that it could turn out to be like Coutinho deal then they could get rid of him now that he still has a value, he has dropped in value a lot over the course of the season. In the end, I still think they should focus on the youngsters and what they have and not go for expensive transfers, they do not need to spend money like that.
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June 29, 2022, 08:12:10 PM
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What seems like a joke is not in the desire to sign Lewandowski in my opinion, but in the negotiation process with Manchester United who want Frenkie De Jong who has not got a deal to date. I think this is the reason Barcelona have not agreed with Manchester United's offer and asked for a higher price to get De Jong.

Barcelona must release a player who has an important role in the team to be able to get funds and the sale of Frenkie De Jong could be a solution to get Lewandowski.
Does it worth it though? Would you prefer to have De Jong who is a young star player, or would you prefer to have Lewandowski who is arguably better of course but at the same time he is very old. I mean if we are talking about it financially then I would keep De Jong instead because he could worth a lot more in the future.

I would rather have Frenkie De Jong retained than going all out for Lewandowski to be honest, Barcelona didn't just pay as much as they just last season for Ferran Torres just have him probably become the second option upfront, Maybe not as effective as Lewandowski would be but Barcelona have multiple players that can fill up the centre forward position, while not too many options that are as dynamic as De Jong that can play in several position in the midfield, and is still pretty much a very young player, regardless of what they get in profit as difference from what they paid for him initially it's still going to be a loss for Barcelona imho.

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June 29, 2022, 08:26:28 PM
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It seems like the Frenkie de Jong deal is nearly ending for Manchester United but in a positive way I mean. Barcelona seem willing to say okay to a total sum of 85 million euros for Frenkie de Jong now. 20 million of this sum is going to be add-ons which I find quite big honestly. But as Barcelona need money desperately they still accept the offer. Manchester United are trying to convince de Jong too now. Erik ten Hag might be really helpful for this because they worked with each other at Ajax before.

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June 29, 2022, 08:32:12 PM
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It seems like the Frenkie de Jong deal is nearly ending for Manchester United but in a positive way I mean. Barcelona seem willing to say okay to a total sum of 85 million euros for Frenkie de Jong now. 20 million of this sum is going to be add-ons which I find quite big honestly. But as Barcelona need money desperately they still accept the offer. Manchester United are trying to convince de Jong too now. Erik ten Hag might be really helpful for this because they worked with each other at Ajax before.

Its a good deal for both parties involved. Barcelona get cash and free their wage bill by selling De Jong. Manchester United get their man, pay in 4 years installment, replace Paul Pogba with ease and prepare for the new season with their new manager. Also, Barcelona is reported approaching Leeds to hijack Raphinha deal from the clutches of Chelsea and Arsenal. The deal should wrap up this weekend
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It's not worth paying 40 million for a player who is already 34 if the player is not Lewandowski. Why? because behind Lewandowski's 40 million price, there are other goals that can give Barcelona profits, in my opinion, such as selling jerseys and other merchandise.

It is impossible for Luis Suarez to return to Barcelona because the basis of Suarez's sale to Atletico Madrid is because he is no longer young and Barcelona needs younger players because of Barca's busy schedule. I think you still remember the reason why Barcelona officials let Luis Suarez off a few years ago.

I'm already confused about the price of Lewandowski - they write that Barcelona offers 30, and Bavaria wants 40. The other day they write that Bayern wants 50 and Barcelona offers 40. But the most confusing is the position of Barcelona - on the one hand, they offer money, on the other hand, they seem to have no money and they offer to wait a couple of months until they find it  Grin In my opinion, this is turning into some kind of farce.

https://www.90min.com/posts/barcelona-members-approve-merchandising-tv-rights-sales

In that article they describe how Barcelona is probably going to raise 700 million Euro. I agree it is crazy when it comes to either solvency or insolvency in the Spanish league. One day it's doomsday and Barcelona is essentially going to collapse every other second, and afterwards they are raising an offer for Lewandowksi every two weeks. I have no idea how all that works. I guess they can't ever be involved anyway because their brand is too big to fail. There would always be someone pouring money into the club for whatever they can still sell off.


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