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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.6%)
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July 13, 2023, 08:05:40 AM
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It is similar to what Real Madrid did for Endrick from Palmeiras. Not exactly the same though because Real Madrid have no choice other than waiting for him due to age issue in his country. These are all investments into their futures and I wonder which one of these players will develop more.
Real Madrid are always the best at finding young talented players. Real Madrid don't go after buying good players they go after making good players ie Real Madrid are star makers.  All of the talented young players Real Madrid have signed so far have been successful signings for Real Madrid.

Endrick is another surprise name for Real Madrid because Real Madrid has already signed a contract with this talented player from Brazil. Maybe this talented player will join the Real Madrid camp from 2024. Endrick will be a successful striker for Real Madrid.

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July 13, 2023, 08:07:50 AM
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In terms of conditions it is true, but on the other hand this is also a form of risk actually because we know Mbappe is one of the special players at PSG, especially with the conditions he does have privileges for the club so that even though he can do whatever he wants and his contract is valid, things like that will not be useful if there is a statement that he will leave when his contract expires because he does not want a contract extension.
This will spark a spark that will actually get bigger because PSG is also a businessman and he doesn't want to give Mbappe away for free.
Thus PSG will feel betrayed by Mbappe in terms of his actions, which do not want to extend a new contract with PSG. Instead, Mbappe actions made PSG furious and felt that everything they had given him had gone unanswered. So in a situation like this, PSG will definitely include Mbappe name on the sale list this month or next month because PSG doesn't want to lose Mbappe for nothing next season.

For Real Madrid they can take advantage of this opportunity to sign Mbappe earlier than waiting for his contract to expire because PSG will not keep him next season. Apart from that only Real madrid seems to be Mbappe next destination as only Real Madrid can give him the UCL Title if he joins in this transfer window.

Therefore, all discussions and a lot of news about Mbappe have always existed until now because if in the end Mbappe was silent and still complied with PSG's wishes and enjoyed all the facilities that had been given, things like this would not happen but because Mbappe is now like a rebel, PSG will also try to take advantage of course.

Actually, for Mbappe and Madrid themselves, there is no really convincing statement from Madrid that they want to bring back Mbappe and Mbappe also did not say that he wanted to be in Madrid, it's just that when a lot of controversy occurs even now, such as the struggle between Mbappe and PSG meeting a new round, it is certain that now it will drag Madrid into the upheaval.

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July 13, 2023, 08:14:44 AM
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Real Madrid are always the best at finding young talented players. Real Madrid don't go after buying good players they go after making good players ie Real Madrid are star makers.  All of the talented young players Real Madrid have signed so far have been successful signings for Real Madrid.

Endrick is another surprise name for Real Madrid because Real Madrid has already signed a contract with this talented player from Brazil. Maybe this talented player will join the Real Madrid camp from 2024. Endrick will be a successful striker for Real Madrid.

Real Madrid have a very good school, so they have every opportunity to create talented players, but this can take years, and this can be done when the team has two strong forwards, but in a situation where they need a striker, because Benzema left the team, then you need to act and look for an already formed player who can immediately take the place of an attacker in the team.

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July 13, 2023, 08:19:24 AM
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Yep, we will probably just wait for the 2-week deadline that is always said about the ultimatum given by PSG to Mbappe but indeed things like this are always the same but now it is almost approaching 2 weeks but there is no further news about this and the news of Mbappe and PSG is like floating on the surface.

Currently, there is so much confusion about Mbappe and PSG that it is even difficult for us to distinguish which news is really real and which news is just to exaggerate the problem just for the enthusiasm of readers because when talking about Mbappe at this time, media traffic will definitely go up.

I can tell you that I am excited myself because the whole fan world is watching these dialogues and want to know where Mbappe will be playing next season. I felt that this two week deadline given by the PSG boss didn't sound very convincing because why would Mbappe listen to that and make a decision only because the PSG wants it several weeks before the market closes? Mbappe has a valid contract and he can do whatever he wants. Nobody can force him to leave and that is what the PSG boss implied when he said that Mbappe will leave the club this transfer period if he doesn't extend the contract. But what if Mbappe decides to go nowhere but stay. There isn't much PSG can do about it.
In terms of conditions it is true, but on the other hand this is also a form of risk actually because we know Mbappe is one of the special players at PSG, especially with the conditions he does have privileges for the club so that even though he can do whatever he wants and his contract is valid, things like that will not be useful if there is a statement that he will leave when his contract expires because he does not want a contract extension.
This will spark a spark that will actually get bigger because PSG is also a businessman and he doesn't want to give Mbappe away for free.

That is one aspect to mention here, but also don't forget that Mbappe is a businessman as well. He is as much a businessman as he is a soccer player because when he announces that he will not extend his contract with PSG, the intention is to signal to all interested clubs to now join the competition to bid for him. At the same time he is raising the pressure for PSG bosses as well as they know this is the only moment to make some money selling him. Mbappe made that statement publicly only out of self-interest, not because he wanted to respectfully let everyone know about his future plans . Wink Mbappe is quite greedy.

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July 13, 2023, 08:31:30 AM
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Barcelona and Real Madrid are really both scouting Brazilian players continually and discovering really great talents there. For example Neymar came from Santos and Vinicius Junior came from Flamengo to the La Liga and made us watch great football. Therefore Brazil is like the second home of these teams and I don't see any other team being able to compete with them about signing such players there.

I heard that Tottenham and Manchester United also wanted to intervene Vitor Roque deal by the way and they even offered an amount near 100 million euros. But the amount doesn't seem realistic to me much. I don't feel like any of those teams would spend that high amount on him. However he still chose Barcelona as he was wishing to sign for them already.

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July 13, 2023, 09:00:25 AM
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Real Madrid are always the best at finding young talented players. Real Madrid don't go after buying good players they go after making good players ie Real Madrid are star makers.  All of the talented young players Real Madrid have signed so far have been successful signings for Real Madrid.

Endrick is another surprise name for Real Madrid because Real Madrid has already signed a contract with this talented player from Brazil. Maybe this talented player will join the Real Madrid camp from 2024. Endrick will be a successful striker for Real Madrid.

Real Madrid have a very good school, so they have every opportunity to create talented players, but this can take years, and this can be done when the team has two strong forwards, but in a situation where they need a striker, because Benzema left the team, then you need to act and look for an already formed player who can immediately take the place of an attacker in the team.
In the absence of Karim Benzema, Real Madrid definitely need a quality main striker, so they are not giving the responsibility of the main striker to any young player. Mbappe has already discussed with Mbappe to join Real Madrid, Real Madrid and Mbappe have also agreed to sign a contract with Real Madrid, but Mbappe cannot join Real Madrid at the moment as Mbappe has another season's contract with PSG. Real Madrid would be able to make one of the most successful transfers if Karim Benzema replaces Real Madrid.

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July 13, 2023, 10:18:43 AM
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Of course Real Madrid pulled out of the Harry Kane competition as they didn't want to go under the knife for players starting old enough at an unreasonable fee, therefore the rumors didn't last long. I think it's the right decision for Real Madrid to let go of the hunt for Harry Kane and choose a young player considering that Los Blancos' squad is now filled with 80% young players.
Within next few seasons, Harry Kane and Mbappe can provide similar contributions for Real Madrid but in longer term, Mbappe will be better because he is younger and has a longer career ahead than Harry Kane. So far I did not read any news that Real Madrid want to sign with Harry Kane, only news about their interest in Mbappe. I know with Real Madrid, they can complete transfer deal very quickly and they can shock all of us.
Proportionally Mbappe will clearly be a long-term project like Cristiano Ronaldo when he was at Real Madrid and maybe when he is over 30 years old he will start thinking about his next future. As happened with Arda Guler's transfer, it proves that even though Real Madrid was quite late, they were able to complete this transfer quickly while silencing their rivals who had already targeted this player. I can't wait for Real Madrid to do the same for Mbappe this summer, even though we all know how difficult it is to bring in Mbappe after going through a long process of seasons. But at least the tension between PSG and Mbappe has made Real Madrid's chances of being able to sign him much bigger for now, of course Real Madrid wants a fairly low fee.

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Real Madrid are always the best at finding young talented players. Real Madrid don't go after buying good players they go after making good players ie Real Madrid are star makers.  All of the talented young players Real Madrid have signed so far have been successful signings for Real Madrid.

Endrick is another surprise name for Real Madrid because Real Madrid has already signed a contract with this talented player from Brazil. Maybe this talented player will join the Real Madrid camp from 2024. Endrick will be a successful striker for Real Madrid.

Real Madrid have a very good school, so they have every opportunity to create talented players, but this can take years, and this can be done when the team has two strong forwards, but in a situation where they need a striker, because Benzema left the team, then you need to act and look for an already formed player who can immediately take the place of an attacker in the team.
In the absence of Karim Benzema, Real Madrid definitely need a quality main striker, so they are not giving the responsibility of the main striker to any young player. Mbappe has already discussed with Mbappe to join Real Madrid, Real Madrid and Mbappe have also agreed to sign a contract with Real Madrid, but Mbappe cannot join Real Madrid at the moment as Mbappe has another season's contract with PSG. Real Madrid would be able to make one of the most successful transfers if Karim Benzema replaces Real Madrid.
I totally agree with your stance on the need for Real Madrid to find a perfect replacement for Karim Benzema in the striking role at the club and that they must do before the commencement of the new season so that they can still remain competitive like or more than they were before the French man's departure.
The club's effort to sign Kylian Mbappe I think did hit the rock immediately Paris Saint Germaine's management came to know that Real Madrid is having a secret agreement with the player. PSG has put the player on the least of players they're gonna export this summer and that'll be to the highest bidder. Real Madrid still got a chance to keep the forward but that is if they can outbid any other club that's interested in Mbappe

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July 13, 2023, 11:51:50 AM
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Barcelona and Real Madrid are really both scouting Brazilian players continually and discovering really great talents there. For example Neymar came from Santos and Vinicius Junior came from Flamengo to the La Liga and made us watch great football. Therefore Brazil is like the second home of these teams and I don't see any other team being able to compete with them about signing such players there.

I heard that Tottenham and Manchester United also wanted to intervene Vitor Roque deal by the way and they even offered an amount near 100 million euros. But the amount doesn't seem realistic to me much. I don't feel like any of those teams would spend that high amount on him. However he still chose Barcelona as he was wishing to sign for them already.

The two clubs that predominate in La Liga are already known. , dominating for some time now even  Madrid showed a lack of unseriousness this season if not they would possess league victory they had chances than Barcelona and be that one of my favorite players is in Real Madrid, Benzema but now has gone to Saudi which is best since he has done his best has a player at Real Madrid, and most of both Madrid and Barca have Brazilian players and I don't blame them, people from brazil are raw talent when it comes to football and their players have a very beautiful record. 100 million for roque The question now is will you want to spend such an amount just to sign him?

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July 13, 2023, 12:09:31 PM
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In the absence of Karim Benzema, Real Madrid definitely need a quality main striker, so they are not giving the responsibility of the main striker to any young player. Mbappe has already discussed with Mbappe to join Real Madrid, Real Madrid and Mbappe have also agreed to sign a contract with Real Madrid, but Mbappe cannot join Real Madrid at the moment as Mbappe has another season's contract with PSG. Real Madrid would be able to make one of the most successful transfers if Karim Benzema replaces Real Madrid.
In preparation for this summer, Real Madrid has a seemingly empty position on the attack line and Madrid cannot rely on the other young players they now have.
For Mbappe, I myself have not seen an agreement with Madrid to agree to sign a contract.
The truth now is that Mbappe is still being kept by PSG and there are many rumors stating that PSG actually wants to extend Mbappe's contract a little longer.
We'll see if Mbappe will still play for PSG on 2024 or in will be on a free transfer and contracted by Madrid or another club.

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Barcelona have completed Vitor Roque signing finally for a 40 million euros transfer fee. He is only an 18-year-old centre-forward right now. He must be seen as a wonderkid that Barcelona allocated the money they can spend this summer for him mostly. However this transfer won't happen now. The deal is going to be completed officially and he will join the team by July 2024.

It is similar to what Real Madrid did for Endrick from Palmeiras. Not exactly the same though because Real Madrid have no choice other than waiting for him due to age issue in his country. These are all investments into their futures and I wonder which one of these players will develop more.


He did very well to take him, he's young, he can grow a lot as long as he lets him play
If he took him to keep him on the bench he did a huge bullshit, might as well buy him and lend him making him play and improve
if you don't play, you don't improve   
This is an investment for the future, a player with enormous potential but also quite risky because nothing guarantees the performance of a player, especially for a young player who is expected to become a mega star in the future, we have seen several examples of failures in the past. happens in the world of football but apart from that if this is successful it will be very profitable for the team.
I think the steps taken by Barcelona are very correct, they are currently working on a long term project and are also focused on next season which is quite mature and in my opinion it is quite good between the processes and also the focus for next season.

of course it's an investment, but if you do it you have to make it pay off
if you buy it just to buy it, it's money thrown away, if you buy it to keep it on the bench for example
instead if you let him play, he'll make mistakes, sure he's young, but he'll grow up and become even better

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July 13, 2023, 12:24:13 PM
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It is similar to what Real Madrid did for Endrick from Palmeiras. Not exactly the same though because Real Madrid have no choice other than waiting for him due to age issue in his country. These are all investments into their futures and I wonder which one of these players will develop more.
Real Madrid are always the best at finding young talented players. Real Madrid don't go after buying good players they go after making good players ie Real Madrid are star makers.  All of the talented young players Real Madrid have signed so far have been successful signings for Real Madrid.

Endrick is another surprise name for Real Madrid because Real Madrid has already signed a contract with this talented player from Brazil. Maybe this talented player will join the Real Madrid camp from 2024. Endrick will be a successful striker for Real Madrid.


Real Madrid are a great team, they obviously know how to find new players and young talent, they will have a whole army of talent scouts
But if he wants established players, ready to score goals, he has to pay like all the other teams do.
Young talents are not ready for modern football, for stress and not having to make a mistake. Let's remember that a single mistake can cost a cup, i.e. money.

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July 13, 2023, 12:40:01 PM
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Barcelona and Real Madrid are really both scouting Brazilian players continually and discovering really great talents there. For example Neymar came from Santos and Vinicius Junior came from Flamengo to the La Liga and made us watch great football. Therefore Brazil is like the second home of these teams and I don't see any other team being able to compete with them about signing such players there.

I heard that Tottenham and Manchester United also wanted to intervene Vitor Roque deal by the way and they even offered an amount near 100 million euros. But the amount doesn't seem realistic to me much. I don't feel like any of those teams would spend that high amount on him. However he still chose Barcelona as he was wishing to sign for them already.
Yes, it's true that we've seen the two teams Madrid and Barcelona strengthened by players of Brazilian blood for a long time and that's why these two clubs always dominate every league they participate. in general countries from Latin America always have young talents who shine in European clubs, in this transfer market we were surprised by the Barcelona recruits who bought Vitor Roque for 61 Million Euros. Fabrizio Romano an expert on the transfer market and a football journalist said in a tweet that Vitor Roque's price was that much.

It is also true that Vitor Roque rejected offers from the two EPL clubs on the grounds that money is not everything, so he chose to join Barcelona. Hopefully his choice can bring success in the future, and that can only come true with hard work.

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July 13, 2023, 12:52:09 PM
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It is similar to what Real Madrid did for Endrick from Palmeiras. Not exactly the same though because Real Madrid have no choice other than waiting for him due to age issue in his country. These are all investments into their futures and I wonder which one of these players will develop more.
Real Madrid are always the best at finding young talented players. Real Madrid don't go after buying good players they go after making good players ie Real Madrid are star makers.  All of the talented young players Real Madrid have signed so far have been successful signings for Real Madrid.

Endrick is another surprise name for Real Madrid because Real Madrid has already signed a contract with this talented player from Brazil. Maybe this talented player will join the Real Madrid camp from 2024. Endrick will be a successful striker for Real Madrid.
Real Madrid are a great team, they obviously know how to find new players and young talent, they will have a whole army of talent scouts
But if he wants established players, ready to score goals, he has to pay like all the other teams do.
Young talents are not ready for modern football, for stress and not having to make a mistake. Let's remember that a single mistake can cost a cup, i.e. money.
Real Madrid know what they have to do, recruiting talented young players is an investment for the long term.
Yes Sir, young talents are not ready for modern football. That's why Real Madrid signed Bellingham with a high fee of transfer, because this player has also proven capable to competing in the europa zone, and with these young players Real Madrid attack line can be said to be quite dangerous. How not, as a midfielder he can also to make many goals before at Dortmund, and it is hoped that he can also show good performance at Real Madrid.

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It is also true that Vitor Roque rejected offers from the two EPL clubs on the grounds that money is not everything, so he chose to join Barcelona. Hopefully his choice can bring success in the future, and that can only come true with hard work.
Vitor Roque is a young player aged 18 years. and Barcelona got a forward who will become a dangerous striker in the future. maybe he won't immediately get a place in Xavi's main squad. but he can be another alternative when Lewandowski wears out. we know Lewandowski is not young anymore, and Xavi has made a very good program of recruiting young players to the squad. Let's hope that his playing character is what Xavi wants, and that can help Barcelona to compete this season.

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July 13, 2023, 01:05:22 PM
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Barcelona have completed Vitor Roque signing finally for a 40 million euros transfer fee. He is only an 18-year-old centre-forward right now. He must be seen as a wonderkid that Barcelona allocated the money they can spend this summer for him mostly. However this transfer won't happen now. The deal is going to be completed officially and he will join the team by July 2024.

It is similar to what Real Madrid did for Endrick from Palmeiras. Not exactly the same though because Real Madrid have no choice other than waiting for him due to age issue in his country. These are all investments into their futures and I wonder which one of these players will develop more.
Well Endrick will be 18 years old in 2024. So Real Madrid have to wait until next season when this magical boy can join Real Madrid. Endrick is truly an extraordinary young player. Brazil is indeed a country that loves football, so it's no wonder that many children can play football beautifully there. I even liked the Brazilian players when they played in the World Cup. they show a beautiful and strong style of play.
And Vitor Roque is no less extraordinary than Endrick, both of whom have a bright future in the world of football. And actually Brazil has many other outstanding young players apart from Endrick and Vitor Roque.

I'm also curious about the career growth of these two young players at clubs that are eternal rivals in Laliga, namely Barcelona and Real Madrid.
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July 13, 2023, 01:53:14 PM
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That is one aspect to mention here, but also don't forget that Mbappe is a businessman as well. He is as much a businessman as he is a soccer player because when he announces that he will not extend his contract with PSG, the intention is to signal to all interested clubs to now join the competition to bid for him. At the same time he is raising the pressure for PSG bosses as well as they know this is the only moment to make some money selling him. Mbappe made that statement publicly only out of self-interest, not because he wanted to respectfully let everyone know about his future plans . Wink Mbappe is quite greedy.
It's only natural that a player might confirm that he's leaving his current club and that was when he was offered a contract extension by Paris Saint Germain.
Mbappe's greed is visible from before, but it is a fact that a high offer and a privileged position made him choose to be in the Paris Saint Germain squad. But in the end it made him uncomfortable to be here at all, because inevitably the pressure must be there. Plus, Mbappe's selfishness is still so big that it backfired on him.

Now he has to live with it, and I consider it a punishment for his sometimes childish attitude. He must be able to change and sensitize his attitude that is detrimental to himself.




It is also true that Vitor Roque rejected offers from the two EPL clubs on the grounds that money is not everything, so he chose to join Barcelona. Hopefully his choice can bring success in the future, and that can only come true with hard work.
Vitor Roque is a young player aged 18 years. and Barcelona got a forward who will become a dangerous striker in the future. maybe he won't immediately get a place in Xavi's main squad. but he can be another alternative when Lewandowski wears out. we know Lewandowski is not young anymore, and Xavi has made a very good program of recruiting young players to the squad. Let's hope that his playing character is what Xavi wants, and that can help Barcelona to compete this season.
For me both La Liga and the Premier League are good leagues to mentally mold young players, and indeed the Premier League in particular is ahead of La Liga in this regard. But if you want to see what young players can do, La Liga can be a benchmark for us, although the difference in competition will also require some changes that must be adapted properly.
Vitor Roque has not been able to be immediately deployed and registered in the squad this season due to several policies from the federation.

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Real Madrid are always the best at finding young talented players. Real Madrid don't go after buying good players they go after making good players ie Real Madrid are star makers.  All of the talented young players Real Madrid have signed so far have been successful signings for Real Madrid.
Not all the young players brought in by Real Madrid will be successful with Real Madrid, but some of them are successful with other teams. Do you remember Martin Odegaard, he was not successful with Real Madrid but he managed to become a very important player for Arsenal. But the situation will be different for Endrick, that's because Real Madrid need a striker after they were left out by Benzema.

Endrick is one of the talented players who has managed to become an important player for Palmeiras, but he still seems to have to work very hard to grab a position in the Real Madrid main squad. It's not easy playing for Real Madrid, but if he really works hard then surely he will have the chance to become the most important striker in the squad.

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July 13, 2023, 02:02:44 PM
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Against the background of the fact that Tottenham wants 150 million for Kane, 200 million for Mbappe looks like an adequate amount  Grin
As far as I understand, PSG are trying to sell Mbappe before July 31st in order not to pay him a loyalty bonus (lol), so there is a possibility that we will see some real news very soon.

From what I can tell about this deal,  I feel Real Madrid doesn't want to pay big money for Mbappe.  200 million is too much for a player that has only one year left in his contract.  PSG is a very foolish club.  What were they expecting when they did everything possible to keep Mbappe two seasons ago when they had the opportunity to sell him for around 150 million? 
Fiorentino Perez and Madrid may decide to play the long game and wait till next season so they can get Mbappe for free.  Madrid seems pretty confident that they will get Mbappe,  if not this summer,  then next summer.

For the top players it makes no difference whether they have a contract or not - you will never get them for free. Even when PSG re-signed Mbappe, they were forced to pay him a huge signing bonus (and put loyalty payments into the contract) because if they didn’t, then Mbappe would go where he would have been paid a signing bonus.
At the moment, three clubs at once (Real, Bayern, PSG - all non-poor lol) are looking for a top striker, so I don’t even know if the amount of 200 million is justified under such conditions or not. Maybe even small, who knows.

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It is similar to what Real Madrid did for Endrick from Palmeiras. Not exactly the same though because Real Madrid have no choice other than waiting for him due to age issue in his country. These are all investments into their futures and I wonder which one of these players will develop more.
Real Madrid are always the best at finding young talented players. Real Madrid don't go after buying good players they go after making good players ie Real Madrid are star makers.  All of the talented young players Real Madrid have signed so far have been successful signings for Real Madrid.

Endrick is another surprise name for Real Madrid because Real Madrid has already signed a contract with this talented player from Brazil. Maybe this talented player will join the Real Madrid camp from 2024. Endrick will be a successful striker for Real Madrid.
Real Madrid is indeed a club that has always succeeded in producing star players. Because this club has an acumen in seeing the potential of the young players they recruit. Even in this season's transfer market, Real Madrid managed to win the competition in the race for a young player from Turkey, namely Arda Guler. Arda Guler is also an extraordinary young player who looks like he will become another football star that Real Madrid will score. Even this young player, he said, would immediately join Real Madrid in the coming season. Although the issue is that Arda Guler will join next season. but based on Real Madrid's official statement, it turns out that Arda Guler will join this season. and will earn a six season contract at Real Madrid. Arda Guler and Endrick are the hope and the best investment that Real Madrid is currently making.

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