[ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source

[Bkcrewxxx]

How much is total supply of Qora coin?

10 billions.

Just installed the client and it looks kinda clean...

Is there any way to get some besides private trading?

[lhbx1x]

I want to buy some qora.
Price: 30 satoshi.
please pm me .

It isn't release, how to sell?

[nextgencoin]

How much is total supply of Qora coin?

10 billions.

Just installed the client and it looks kinda clean...

Is there any way to get some besides private trading?

if you just want to play with the test client then ask on here and the developer or someone should be able to send you some.

But to actually buy the real thing I'm afraid the IPO has finished. They aim to release coins by 16May if everything goes smoothly. I imagine it will hit some kind of exchange soon after.

[gomei]

How much is total supply of Qora coin?

10 billions.

Just installed the client and it looks kinda clean...

Is there any way to get some besides private trading?

if you just want to play with the test client then ask on here and the developer or someone should be able to send you some.

But to actually buy the real thing I'm afraid the IPO has finished. They aim to release coins by 16May if everything goes smoothly. I imagine it will hit some kind of exchange soon after.

waiting for the exchange.

[eli_lyd1]

I want to buy some qora.
Price: 30 satoshi.
please pm me .

It isn't release, how to sell?

I also want to know , how to sell , how to buy?

[AMP966]

Unfortunately, I did not vote.

[cawson]

 

Unfortunately, I did not vote.

;)Got wallet

[Fonzarelli]

Watching this one with interest.

[qora]

The client that is currently available is a BETA.
If you want some beta funds just ask me or post your address here.
Beta funds have 0 value do not buy them from anyone.

[a20756079]

The client that is currently available is a BETA.
If you want some beta funds just ask me or post your address here.
Beta funds have 0 value do not buy them from anyone.

Could you tell us more about the POS OF QORA?

[Hyperphrenia]

I agree, and I'm curious about this as well.  Releasing the source code too soon will not only harm a coin's growth prospects but also promote copycat projects. Take NXT for instance, releasing the full source code certainly did not lead to wider adoption, and certainly did not help the price at all.

So instead of releasing the full source, can't we have a trusted independent 3rd party doing a code audit to make sure everything works as advertized, and only releasing the API and a partial set of source needed for GUI/external development? If the dev still set on releasing the full source, I sincerely hope he will consider postponing it for as long as possible.

I do I think know why developers release the source code, but I at the same time I still don't know why developers HAVE to release the code.

Why not release the code much later than the planned 1-3 months. If easy to clone we will have the same situation with NXT being overtaken by clones but it will be much worse. Why not wait a year or 6 months at least. Personally I would be happy if they never did.


One massive benefit to not releasing code for Crypto would we wouldn't have all these shitcoins. Imagine we only had Bitcoin, And NXT. It would be a far simpler world. Couldn't a few independent people check the code over for issues without releasing the source code?

[dzarmush]

I agree, and I'm curious about this as well.  Releasing the source code too soon will not only harm a coin's growth prospects but also promote copycat projects. Take NXT for instance, releasing the full source code certainly did not lead to wider adoption, and certainly did not help the price at all.

So instead of releasing the full source, can't we have a trusted independent 3rd party doing a code audit to make sure everything works as advertized, and only releasing the API and a partial set of source needed for GUI/external development? If the dev still set on releasing the full source, I sincerely hope he will consider postponing it for as long as possible.

I do I think know why developers release the source code, but I at the same time I still don't know why developers HAVE to release the code.

Why not release the code much later than the planned 1-3 months. If easy to clone we will have the same situation with NXT being overtaken by clones but it will be much worse. Why not wait a year or 6 months at least. Personally I would be happy if they never did.


One massive benefit to not releasing code for Crypto would we wouldn't have all these shitcoins. Imagine we only had Bitcoin, And NXT. It would be a far simpler world. Couldn't a few independent people check the code over for issues without releasing the source code?

Copycats help promoting originals. There's nothing wrong with publishing sources, as well as nothing wrong with not publishing them right away. As Qora said he's going to publsih it sometime in the future, it does sound rationally. Let's make Qora one of the top currencies, well known and so on, then publish sources.

[nextgencoin]

I'm not sure there is any evidence to say copycats helps promote the original. Our major examples are Bitcoin with it's swarms of alt coins that have done nothing but dilute the market. Ie the worst thing that could of happened to Bitcoin is a load of copycats that make a mockery of digital currency.

The other major example is of course NXT which is being destroyed I believe by inferior clones. So no I don't agree clones give value or bring attention to the originals. At least not always in a positive way.

Bitcoin was a different beast cause the flood of clones came later when it had already become established. I still say it would of been better if they hadn't. Now is a different time where you have a ton of scammers literally waiting for the code or even starting before knowing they will be getting the code at a set time.

Qora can release the code eventually BUT as soon as they do there will be a ton that claim they are better or are completely new code and will attack Qora. I say don't give them a set dat as he has already saying 1-3 months. It bet we will see clones starting IPOs based on Qora almost straight after the launch planning to launch once they recode what they will say is terrible code and simple etc. when really they are just waiting for the code release. If he HAS to release then he should not be specific until Qora is highly established. It's weird cause I'm non techie and assume people involved in coins are smart but the fact is the people who really want the code are wanting it to destroy the original.

So holding onto the source code is the best thing a new code can do to promote a coin and releasing it is the quickest way to destroy it at this present time.

[dzarmush]

I'm not sure there is any evidence to say copycats helps promote the original. Our major examples are Bitcoin with it's swarms of alt coins that have done nothing but dilute the market. Ie the worst thing that could of happened to Bitcoin is a load of copycats that make a mockery of digital currency.

The other major example is of course NXT which is being destroyed I believe by inferior clones.

How about posting any evidences of opposite? I myself and at least two more people I know got into cryptocurrencies starting with Litecoin, Zetacoin, Quarkcoin and of course Nxt. Bitcoin looked too expensive ans stable to buy it. Copycats look like a perfect way to double or triple your investments if you're just starting and don't have much money.

[nextgencoin]

I'm not sure there is any evidence to say copycats helps promote the original. Our major examples are Bitcoin with it's swarms of alt coins that have done nothing but dilute the market. Ie the worst thing that could of happened to Bitcoin is a load of copycats that make a mockery of digital currency.

The other major example is of course NXT which is being destroyed I believe by inferior clones.

How about posting any evidences of opposite? I myself and at least two more people I know got into cryptocurrencies starting with Litecoin, Zetacoin, Quarkcoin and of course Nxt. Bitcoin looked too expensive ans stable to buy it. Copycats look like a perfect way to double or triple your investments if you're just starting and don't have much money.

You're clearly talking about two separate things. You are talking about profitable mining and generally making some short term profit while I'm talking about the long term viability of digital currencies.  All the coins you mentioned have not had a steady increase in value but resemble more a pump and dump with no one taking them seriously as a real currency apart from NXT which is not the same argument cause it as a new code ie not a clone.

Of course no one can give 'evidence' but we do know your side of the argument of releasing code and seeing a ridiculous amount of clones that I believe do nothing to further the uptake of digital currencies and their viability as a real exchange of wealth (99% of coins are only useful once traded on an exchange for Bitcoin or fiat to have any serious option to buy something). So I think you are on a sticky wicket if you think the ever growing flood of shitcoins and IPO's 'helps' Digital currencies rather than spread the wealth among more coins.

And we cant know what would of been if source codes weren't so easily cloned. But imagining a situation where we only had Bitcoin, NXT, Qora, EXO etc would be make for a far more stable respectable situation. I mean you would get genuine interest and focus on new innovative coins due to their rarity and people wouldn't be bouncing between so many coins but would probably have a foot in the major ones. Plus if the only way to have a new coin was to actually create one then it would naturally lead to innovation and people striving to 'make' a new coin and not a scam clone.  

So yeah we cant have 'evidence' but I know with a bit of an educated guess which one I personally would prefer, beyond my preference you will have to ask others.  

[PondSea]

I agree, have a trusted 3rd party verify the code and dont release it for a few months to establish the user base.

[dzarmush]

I'm not sure there is any evidence to say copycats helps promote the original. Our major examples are Bitcoin with it's swarms of alt coins that have done nothing but dilute the market. Ie the worst thing that could of happened to Bitcoin is a load of copycats that make a mockery of digital currency.

The other major example is of course NXT which is being destroyed I believe by inferior clones.

How about posting any evidences of opposite? I myself and at least two more people I know got into cryptocurrencies starting with Litecoin, Zetacoin, Quarkcoin and of course Nxt. Bitcoin looked too expensive ans stable to buy it. Copycats look like a perfect way to double or triple your investments if you're just starting and don't have much money.

You're clearly talking about two separate things. You are talking about profitable mining and generally making some short term profit while I'm talking about the long term viability of digital currencies. All the coins you mentioned have not had a steady increase in value but resemble more a pump and dump with no one taking them seriously as a real currency apart from NXT which is not the same argument cause it as a new code ie not a clone.

Of course no one can give 'evidence' but we do know your side of the argument of releasing code and seeing a ridiculous amount of clones that I believe do nothing to further the uptake of digital currencies and their viability as a real exchange of wealth (99% of coins are only useful once traded on an exchange for Bitcoin or fiat to have any serious option to buy something). So I think you are on a sticky wicket if you think the ever growing flood of shitcoins and IPO's 'helps' Digital currencies rather than spread the wealth among more coins.

And we cant know what would of been if source codes weren't so easily cloned. But imagining a situation where we only had Bitcoin, NXT, Qora, EXO etc would be make for a far more stable respectable situation. I mean you would get genuine interest and focus on new innovative coins due to their rarity and people wouldn't be bouncing between so many coins but would probably have a foot in the major ones. Plus if the only way to have a new coin was to actually create one then it would naturally lead to innovation and people striving to 'make' a new coin and not a scam clone.  

So yeah we cant have 'evidence' but I know with a bit of an educated guess which one I personally would prefer, beyond my preference you will have to ask others.  

First of all every single coin is pump and dump. If you believe that nxt or even bitcoin is not, then you're wrong. There are people with real money and influence that play with all those coins. Most people sell when the price goes down and buy when the price goes up. And someone makes profit on it.

Why I believe that forks are for good is because they attract people to cryptos. I'd never got into it if there was only bitcoin. Buy 0.01 btc? Hell no. If I buy something I want to have at least several coins.

As for publishing the code I agree that there should be some reasonable amount of time between Qora launch and publishing the code. Nxt code haven't been fully published although more than 6 month left since the launch and it didn't hurt anybody.

[nextgencoin]

I agree, have a trusted 3rd party verify the code and dont release it for a few months to establish the user base.

Yep, a few trusted code experts on this forum could check it for the community. And I guess if a coin popped up with similar code we would know they leaked it. I'm normally against organisation and decentralisation in crypto but if you had a few experts that came together did a proper testing of a code, wrote a laymans terms report on it, good and bad kind of like a review or scientific paper it would be very valuable and worth organising and funding.

I bet 99.9% of people don't actually look at the source code anyway and if they did wouldn't know if it was sound anyway. The truth is the only people that really study the source code are trying to clone it in some way. They are usually the loudest voices that want the code released I'm betting.

[91porn]

I agree, have a trusted 3rd party verify the code and dont release it for a few months to establish the user base.

great idea,I agree with you.I dont want to see tons of suck coins.

[xiaohuolv]

I have missed the IPO >:(keep my eyes on this coin