French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1)

[minairia3]

Ligue 1 is on the same level as the other leagues, this is not a good excuse for PSG not being able to win the champions league. We can't forget that Porto (Portugal's team) won the Champions League even without having great players, they were being coached by Mourinho. City have a good coach and good players and they have a strong league (the premier league) but still they can't win the champions league. I usually say that winning the champions league is a matter of getting lucky

The Ligue 1 isn't a low-quality league indeed. Maybe the general quality is not as good as the Premier League but it is still one of the biggest leagues. When it comes to luck I agree with it as well. Having one of the best lineups in the tournament isn't enough. You need to be lucky as well. For example Real Madrid's comeback against Manchester City was really epic and their luck also helped there a lot.

To do well on a platform like the Champions League, you definitely need an experienced coach. PSG's players were talented but their match strategy was poor. So there was no consistency in PSG's performance last season. If you want to win the title in a competitive place like the Champions League, there must be the consistency of performance. At the same time the help of luck is needed. But what is most needed is good match strategy.

[swogerino]

Why the French giants haven't won the Champions League, despite having a star-studded team.

I can answer that with a question: why Manchester City didn't win Champions League although they have one of the best squad? Why Bayern didn't make it so far in CL although dominating Bundesliga by far and having many stars?
It isn't a matter of how much good players you have, it is a matter of how coherent is the players in every game, how tactically good is the coach and how much injuries they have in addition to how many mistakes were made especially in case of lack of concentration due to exhaustion.
Real Madrid won its game although being behind thanks to the lack of vigilance of their opponents when facing the dangerous offence of RM.. Ancelotti made mistakes but their rivals did worst. That's football after all.

One of the most plausible reasons is because the level of League 1 competition is relatively low, so it is difficult for PSG and even very difficult to win the Champions League even though they already have many star players. The low quality of League 1 competition from other top leagues could make it difficult for PSG to win the Champions League trophy, because PSG will face much more difficult opponents in the Champions League competition.
The factor of a coach who is inexperienced in the UCL competition can also be another reason, PSG has no difficulty winning the League 1 trophy with any coach, because the caste of the event is very much different from the Champions League.

Ligue 1 is on the same level as the other leagues, this is not a good excuse for PSG not being able to win the champions league. We can't forget that Porto (Portugal's team) won the Champions League even without having great players, they were being coached by Mourinho. City have a good coach and good players and they have a strong league (the premier league) but still they can't win the champions league. I usually say that winning the champions league is a matter of getting lucky

Ligue 1 I don't think is in the same level of the Premier League,La Liga or Serie A but yes it is one of the 5 major leagues in Europe.I think for PSG not winning the Champions League is more a psychological problem rather than an obstacle in their quality as a team.We all know now with the coming of Messi and the other players they have,they are strong contenders,last year they were eliminated by Real Madrid which happens to be the team that won the last season Champions League.I agree though a great amount of luck is needed for any team to win the Champions League.

[Altryist]

To do well on a platform like the Champions League, you definitely need an experienced coach. PSG's players were talented but their match strategy was poor. So there was no consistency in PSG's performance last season. If you want to win the title in a competitive place like the Champions League, there must be the consistency of performance. At the same time the help of luck is needed. But what is most needed is good match strategy.

The coach always plays a big role in the team, and this is especially true for PSG, because here, in addition to a good strategy, also need to manage players who have a very high opinion of themselves and perhaps at some points they think they know better what they need to do. Here we again return to the question of the authority of the coach in the team. Luck is also important, if you look at Real Madrid, I can say that they were able to win thanks to a lot of luck!

[Jody.Drummer]

To do well on a platform like the Champions League, you definitely need an experienced coach. PSG's players were talented but their match strategy was poor. So there was no consistency in PSG's performance last season. If you want to win the title in a competitive place like the Champions League, there must be the consistency of performance. At the same time the help of luck is needed. But what is most needed is good match strategy.

What do you think Paris Saint Germain lacked when they failed in the Champions League? Is their coach a "poor" strategy? Because if you look at the players, it's clear they have a lot of quality players.
In my opinion, Paris Saint Germain failed to build harmony and chemistry between the players. Things like that become a problem, because no matter how good a player is, it will look useless.

[Tumanggor]

To do well on a platform like the Champions League, you definitely need an experienced coach. PSG's players were talented but their match strategy was poor. So there was no consistency in PSG's performance last season. If you want to win the title in a competitive place like the Champions League, there must be the consistency of performance. At the same time the help of luck is needed. But what is most needed is good match strategy.

What do you think Paris Saint Germain lacked when they failed in the Champions League? Is their coach a "poor" strategy? Because if you look at the players, it's clear they have a lot of quality players.
In my opinion, Paris Saint Germain failed to build harmony and chemistry between the players. Things like that become a problem, because no matter how good a player is, it will look useless.

let's look at the history of great coaches who have coached PSG, the most highlighted is ancelotti, he has coached PSG for 2 seasons but PSG is still not able to get the UCL trophy

This "cohesiveness" is something that until now has been difficult for us to find at PSG, each player has a high ego (because they have high values and salaries), it is difficult to build a solid partnership, and all fans hope that in the hands of Galtier, each player's ego can be overcome. muffled by him

[uswa56]

To do well on a platform like the Champions League, you definitely need an experienced coach. PSG's players were talented but their match strategy was poor. So there was no consistency in PSG's performance last season. If you want to win the title in a competitive place like the Champions League, there must be the consistency of performance. At the same time the help of luck is needed. But what is most needed is good match strategy.

What do you think Paris Saint Germain lacked when they failed in the Champions League? Is their coach a "poor" strategy? Because if you look at the players, it's clear they have a lot of quality players.
In my opinion, Paris Saint Germain failed to build harmony and chemistry between the players. Things like that become a problem, because no matter how good a player is, it will look useless.

nothing less than the squad that PSG have at the moment, maybe the coach was the only reason for their failure in the Champions League but I don't think they should change the coach immediately, giving more time to build a stronger team might be a good solution.
in terms of the players that PSG have, they are strong on all fronts even they have a very good mix of young players and senior players.

PSG is a newly built team and it is unlikely that they will easily win many titles let alone the highest title in the blue continent of the Champions League, not all of that even though they have many star players. but have to build a strong team framework, it may take 3 years or more for them to be able to dominate Europe.

[alpamar99]

They don't seem to be signing many players for this season because it's clear that the arrivals of Vitinha and Nuno Mendes and Danilo Pereira have also taken a lot of their money, not to mention the extension of Mbappe's contract which is indeed an astonishing one in my opinion.
As for the problem of the Champions League, their target is always there, but I have seen some news that the PSG officials will not be too ambitious with the Champions League in Galtier's first season.

On top of that, they didn't lose too many players, so they do not feel like they need more players. They already had a good team last season, and they had Nuno Mendes before as well. All they want right now is to repeat last year. Sure it wasn't a great year that ended with UCL for them, but it was a good enough year. This is why I believe they will be doing fine enough.

The team was good, they just lost to Real Madrid who went on to win the whole thing, which isn't a shock to anyone. If they could play with the same roster but play better, they should be able to get something out of this year. Many teams want the same thing, title at the league and the UCL cup, it will be tough.

Getting the title in Ligue 1 has become a fairly common thing actually and it's already in the grip if roughly speaking now that they don't have any rivals at the moment.
But if that's the case, they certainly won't be satisfied, because what's the difference between them and last season if their achievements just end there. Even though there is no obligation to win the Champions League for Galtier but of course they still intend to do that.

[Falconer]

The problem is believe it or not and admit it or not still at this time Ligue 1 even though it is still good for the top league there but still this league is a farmers league for most people because of the lack of competition there.
It's very difficult for Ligue 1 to say it's competitive there because it's almost difficult to happen, and even though they are in the top 5 leagues because there are still some big players there I think if nothing else then I can guarantee the quality of Ligue 1 will be very good. slumped.

I don't think so, Ligue 1 remains competitive but maybe not as competitive as other leagues like the Premier League if it is based on the intensity of play between teams. Just like Serie A, when Juventus dominated the title for more than 5 seasons in a row, do you think it is a competitive league? Manchester City have also done it in the last 5 seasons in the Premier League, isn't that annoying?

[alpamar99]

What do you think Paris Saint Germain lacked when they failed in the Champions League? Is their coach a "poor" strategy? Because if you look at the players, it's clear they have a lot of quality players.
In my opinion, Paris Saint Germain failed to build harmony and chemistry between the players. Things like that become a problem, because no matter how good a player is, it will look useless.

let's look at the history of great coaches who have coached PSG, the most highlighted is ancelotti, he has coached PSG for 2 seasons but PSG is still not able to get the UCL trophy

This "cohesiveness" is something that until now has been difficult for us to find at PSG, each player has a high ego (because they have high values and salaries), it is difficult to build a solid partnership, and all fans hope that in the hands of Galtier, each player's ego can be overcome. muffled by him

Not all great coaches will be able to lift the team's performance in this matter because the compatibility between coaches and players can still be a factor there.
We can take the example of Tuchle who failed to win the Champions League title at PSG but succeeded at Chelsea. Another example is when he said Mourinho, who was said to be a coach with The Special One title but still failed with MU.
The fact in this case compatibility is also an important factor.

[harapan]

The problem is believe it or not and admit it or not still at this time Ligue 1 even though it is still good for the top league there but still this league is a farmers league for most people because of the lack of competition there.
It's very difficult for Ligue 1 to say it's competitive there because it's almost difficult to happen, and even though they are in the top 5 leagues because there are still some big players there I think if nothing else then I can guarantee the quality of Ligue 1 will be very good. slumped.

I don't think so, Ligue 1 remains competitive but maybe not as competitive as other leagues like the Premier League if it is based on the intensity of play between teams. Just like Serie A, when Juventus dominated the title for more than 5 seasons in a row, do you think it is a competitive league? Manchester City have also done it in the last 5 seasons in the Premier League, isn't that annoying?

Yeah that was quite annoying you right but was way more of a competitive competition than the league 1 I bet you the winner this time around is still going to be PSG retaining the title. This is more boring the a the premier league.
And when it comes to competition in the Champions League they don't go too far expect dome seasons ago which they did against Bayern Munich that was the last time they ever cam close to playing the champions league final. Can Lillie or Monaco become the shocker by winning these new season, I'll be so pleased.

[EdenHazard]

The problem is believe it or not and admit it or not still at this time Ligue 1 even though it is still good for the top league there but still this league is a farmers league for most people because of the lack of competition there.
It's very difficult for Ligue 1 to say it's competitive there because it's almost difficult to happen, and even though they are in the top 5 leagues because there are still some big players there I think if nothing else then I can guarantee the quality of Ligue 1 will be very good. slumped.

I don't think so, Ligue 1 remains competitive but maybe not as competitive as other leagues like the Premier League if it is based on the intensity of play between teams. Just like Serie A, when Juventus dominated the title for more than 5 seasons in a row, do you think it is a competitive league? Manchester City have also done it in the last 5 seasons in the Premier League, isn't that annoying?

By meaning on how psg have far more better players statistically than the rest of league 1 teams makes everyone around the globe thinks that it's a farmer league, it's not  fair league and it's not a competitive one as it's easy to guess which one will win the game when psg play.

When you can guess it easily and the odds itself on the market shows how low the chance of any teams against psg, it's getting boring day by day.

[DanWalker]

Paris Saint-Germain is a club that has invested a lot of cash to build a competitive squad in Europe. Even though Les Parisiens finished second in the 2019–2020 Champions League, they only made it as far as the semifinals the following year.
Paris Saint-Germain performance declined in the 2021/2022 Champions League when Lionel Messi was there, and PSG even lost in the round of 16 after being eliminated by Real Madrid.
Paris Saint-Germain actually had a chance to go further in the Champions League last season. However, Gianluigi Donnarumma's mistake against Real Madrid was a disaster.
Why the French giants haven't won the Champions League, despite having a star-studded team.

I would guess that the biggest reason why they fail is that they are not used to the tournament style all that much. They are amazing in the league because even if they lose a few, they win more than enough. But, when it's tournament style, you can't make a comeback with a small time left if you are not used to it.
Plus, Real keeps playing against decent opponents, and there are some other teams like that too, but PSG keeps playing against teams that are much worse than them, which makes them a bit more lazy when playing because they are used to winning anyway. Same goes for City as well, so many years of dominating EPL and yet they fail in UCL so far.

There is a major reason why PSG keeps losing at any big stages of football. Thus, PSG has no real competition in the league, and they face their opponents almost all the time in Ligue 1. That does not actually prepare them for participation on big stages like the Champions League.

Obviously, the opponents in the Champions League are not going to be as easy as the Ligue-1 teams. On the other hand, any English Premier League team or even Real Madrid does face a significant amount of difficult opponents in the league. This is why these teams are better conditioned for big tournaments.

[ingiltere]

There is a major reason why PSG keeps losing at any big stages of football. Thus, PSG has no real competition in the league, and they face their opponents almost all the time in Ligue 1. That does not actually prepare them for participation on big stages like the Champions League.

Obviously, the opponents in the Champions League are not going to be as easy as the Ligue-1 teams. On the other hand, any English Premier League team or even Real Madrid does face a significant amount of difficult opponents in the league. This is why these teams are better conditioned for big tournaments.

I definitely think so too. The more competitive the local league is, the more teams develop and play better. There are strong teams in France, but the gap between them and PSG has widened so much that the strong teams of the past are now mid-level. There is no need to have six big teams like in the English league, just three teams like Italy would do the work. When France was mentioned, Bordeaux, Marseille, Monaco, Lyon used to come to mind. Now we have PSG and "others".
PSG plays differently in the league, plays differently in Europe. They are not mentally prepared for matches. So even if they put an embargo on the local league, I don't think they will have any success in European cups anytime soon.

[Tumanggor]

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let's look at the history of great coaches who have coached PSG, the most highlighted is ancelotti, he has coached PSG for 2 seasons but PSG is still not able to get the UCL trophy

This "cohesiveness" is something that until now has been difficult for us to find at PSG, each player has a high ego (because they have high values and salaries), it is difficult to build a solid partnership, and all fans hope that in the hands of Galtier, each player's ego can be overcome. muffled by him

Not all great coaches will be able to lift the team's performance in this matter because the compatibility between coaches and players can still be a factor there.
We can take the example of Tuchle who failed to win the Champions League title at PSG but succeeded at Chelsea. Another example is when he said Mourinho, who was said to be a coach with The Special One title but still failed with MU.
The fact in this case compatibility is also an important factor.

actually, I have also said that (cohesiveness between the coach and the players) is an important factor in the success of a team winning trophies and the UCL winning team on average has proven that (cohesiveness and harmony are very important)

Galtier said firmly that he was very inspired by the former Chelsea coach "Di Matteo" who led Chelsea to the UCL champions for the first time, he also said he would try to emulate his coaching style"

many people are optimistic about galtier at PSG

[terrorJR]

There is a major reason why PSG keeps losing at any big stages of football. Thus, PSG has no real competition in the league, and they face their opponents almost all the time in Ligue 1. That does not actually prepare them for participation on big stages like the Champions League.

Obviously, the opponents in the Champions League are not going to be as easy as the Ligue-1 teams. On the other hand, any English Premier League team or even Real Madrid does face a significant amount of difficult opponents in the league. This is why these teams are better conditioned for big tournaments.

This could be an excuse but with great players in it with individual qualities that are above average it's definitely not a good reason to say they are not ready to be in the Champions League because this implies they can't do anything more than Ligue. 1.
In this case if that is the reason they have to maintain their motivation if indeed it becomes an obstacle and they have to work extra.

[snipie]

Messi reported has refuse to talking about new contract although PSG offering him extended contract and Messi said he want to focus on world cup first because this will be his last appearance to this competition but the speculation appears regarding his future that probably he will leave PSG after his contract ended and some rumours said next destination from him is MLS league but not impossible to him will went to Barcelona again to ended his career at there

Messi won't do anything before seeing how far PSG could go in Champions League. If they win it, he will most likely stay for another year imo, if PSG will leave it before the final game, he will say goodbye and move to another club. Returning to Barcelona might be possible if he will get back his performance, otherwise if he kept performing like he did the last season, I doubt Barcelona will be interested on him.

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I see you all arguing whether Ligue 1 is as important and equivalent to the others leagues or not.
I think everyone agree that EPL is the best league by far followed by La Liga then comes Serie A then Bundesliga and Ligue 1. There might be slight differences in terms of spending, quality of players and how much good teams there is in each league.
Unfortunately in Ligue 1, if we merge it with EPL for example, a part from PSG that will pick one of the first 4 spots, OM and Monaco, somewhere between 5-10, the others will be in the second part of the table and maybe +15 for most. That's hypothetical of course but the quality of most teams in Ligue 1 is medium to low, that's why they can't compete much in european competitions. This is could be understood since the spending is very limited there.

[Pulsar77]

Everyone is curious about how strong the bond between PSG players and Galtier will be of course. Due to his being a quite inexperienced manager, there have been some question marks in the minds of people considering the season ahead. Their Champions League performance is going to be the focal point. The Ligue 1 is already easy for them as long as there isn't any surprise. I see only Monaco and Marseille which can make difficulties for them but they have a long way to go for that.

[minairia3]

To do well on a platform like the Champions League, you definitely need an experienced coach. PSG's players were talented but their match strategy was poor. So there was no consistency in PSG's performance last season. If you want to win the title in a competitive place like the Champions League, there must be the consistency of performance. At the same time the help of luck is needed. But what is most needed is good match strategy.

The coach always plays a big role in the team, and this is especially true for PSG, because here, in addition to a good strategy, also need to manage players who have a very high opinion of themselves and perhaps at some points they think they know better what they need to do. Here we again return to the question of the authority of the coach in the team. Luck is also important, if you look at Real Madrid, I can say that they were able to win thanks to a lot of luck!

The PSG team has a lot of players that are very much capable of doing almost anything at any moment of the match. But because of the lack of teamwork and an ineffective strategy, they were not able to do very well in the last season. They did not do well in the Champions League and they also have drawn and lost some matches that they definitely shouldn’t have. They did get a replacement manager. But I really don’t think that is going to be a big upgrade for them in any way. And we really cannot say that this team is unlucky because with this squad they should get every bit of luck there is.

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What do you think Paris Saint Germain lacked when they failed in the Champions League? Is their coach a "poor" strategy? Because if you look at the players, it's clear they have a lot of quality players.
In my opinion, Paris Saint Germain failed to build harmony and chemistry between the players. Things like that become a problem, because no matter how good a player is, it will look useless.

Clearly, the coach's strategy had some issues and that's why PSG failed to win the Champions League and also why they didn't look the most promising in the league. I know a lot of people are tempted to say that they have won the league one title very easily. But we all know that the performance was not there, and neither was the chemistry between the players.

nothing less than the squad that PSG have at the moment, maybe the coach was the only reason for their failure in the Champions League but I don't think they should change the coach immediately, giving more time to build a stronger team might be a good solution.
in terms of the players that PSG have, they are strong on all fronts even they have a very good mix of young players and senior players.

PSG is a newly built team and it is unlikely that they will easily win many titles let alone the highest title in the blue continent of the Champions League, not all of that even though they have many star players. but have to build a strong team framework, it may take 3 years or more for them to be able to dominate Europe.

There is no reason why a team like PSG shouldn’t win, in almost everything that they participate in. The only logical thing that comes to mind is that the plans were not suitable. That’s why they did not do very well. And the teamwork was not there at all. They really need to upgrade the midfield significantly. The main problem is that the attacking lineup is much better. Compared to the midfield. That’s why there is a big communication gap on the field between the players.

[sana54210]

Getting the title in Ligue 1 has become a fairly common thing actually and it's already in the grip if roughly speaking now that they don't have any rivals at the moment.
But if that's the case, they certainly won't be satisfied, because what's the difference between them and last season if their achievements just end there. Even though there is no obligation to win the Champions League for Galtier but of course they still intend to do that.

I agree that getting the ligue 1 title is not really a big deal for PSG right now, but it's not nothing neither, just a year prior they lost it to Lille, which was super unexpected, sure not at a Leicester level maybe but it was still unexpected. Considering this, I have to say that it's clear to me on how PSG would still would love to get it, and work hard to get it if anything goes wrong in between.

This is something we have to realize and accept. On top of that, if they get the cup and also UCL that would be sweet, it would be amazing, but if they can't, they haven't so far anyway, so it's not "getting worse" like some people claim, it's staying the same.

[Prince Malik]

Getting the title in Ligue 1 has become a fairly common thing actually and it's already in the grip if roughly speaking now that they don't have any rivals at the moment.
But if that's the case, they certainly won't be satisfied, because what's the difference between them and last season if their achievements just end there. Even though there is no obligation to win the Champions League for Galtier but of course they still intend to do that.

I agree that getting the ligue 1 title is not really a big deal for PSG right now, but it's not nothing neither, just a year prior they lost it to Lille, which was super unexpected, sure not at a Leicester level maybe but it was still unexpected. Considering this, I have to say that it's clear to me on how PSG would still would love to get it, and work hard to get it if anything goes wrong in between.

This is something we have to realize and accept. On top of that, if they get the cup and also UCL that would be sweet, it would be amazing, but if they can't, they haven't so far anyway, so it's not "getting worse" like some people claim, it's staying the same.

That's true and i really think that the fans are not interested any more in getting the Ligue 1 title and They are looking for something more interesting, getting the Ligue 1 is not enjoyable anymore for neither the team or the fans that's why the club will do everything to get the ucl next season