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June 22, 2023, 11:31:01 PM
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Another good news for Real Madrid and bad news for PSG is, It seems the Emir of Qatar asked Mbappe to extend his contract or they will sell this player this summer.
Real Madrid is obviously waiting for this moment to hire Mbappe.

https://psgtalk.com/2023/06/emir-of-qatar-to-mbappe-extend-contract-at-psg-or-be-sold-this-summer/

It won't work. Forcing player to extend his contract or leave from the club will not work. It's all depend on mbappe itself. I meant once you were forcing a player and you must also aware that if personal agreement actually required for a player to leave from the club. If mbappe will not be even agree to the personal agreement with new club and what you can do just terminate his contract to leave from the club as free agent. That means you will be got nothing from him at the end of his contract.
This makes PSG dilemma to determine which the best decision for him. To keep or sell him until his contract will be running out. Mbappe is wanna leaving from there with free agent caused by he will able to pick which team that will become his next team.
That's why PSG feels difficult to determine the best decision for mbappe. Mbappe forces himself to stay until his contract will be running out.

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June 22, 2023, 11:55:58 PM
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It won't work. Forcing player to extend his contract or leave from the club will not work. It's all depend on mbappe itself. I meant once you were forcing a player and you must also aware that if personal agreement actually required for a player to leave from the club. If mbappe will not be even agree to the personal agreement with new club and what you can do just terminate his contract to leave from the club as free agent. That means you will be got nothing from him at the end of his contract. This makes PSG dilemma to determine which the best decision for him. To keep or sell him until his contract will be running out. Mbappe is wanna leaving from there with free agent caused by he will able to pick which team that will become his next team. That's why PSG feels difficult to determine the best decision for mbappe. Mbappe forces himself to stay until his contract will be running out.
I don't think Mbappe wants to leave Paris Saint-Germain as a free agent so much that he will refuse to move to Real Madrid in this transfer window if the clubs agree. It's just that now is the most realistic chance for Mbappe to go to Real Madrid with an option that suits all three sides, that is, Paris Saint-Germain will receive a decent compensation. On the contrary, there is a very high probability that Mbappe deliberately leaked his letter to the press refusing to extend his contract with PSG in order to move to Real Madrid right now, and not wait for next year. And all his statements about his intention to work out the contract to the end may be an element of pressure on PSG to bring down the price.
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June 23, 2023, 03:36:22 AM
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Yes, unfortunately it is. If Neymar doesn't have many injuries, maybe we will see him playing to his full optimal, as a striker and the most expensive player he should be able to give good results for PSG. By the way, if Luis Enrique becomes PSG new coach, Neymar is likely can stay in Paris. Because Enrique really understands the character of this striker, so I think there is still an opportunity for Neymar to show his great skills at PSG.
Even though PSG has planned to let Neymar go and there are already several clubs that are eyeing him, moreover Man United or Chelsea. but this is still a rumor. If it turns out that Enrique later changes his mind, he might reconsider. But in my opinion, PSG will still let Neymar go if there is a price agreement with another club. He had quite a small contribution during the last season in PSG although his transfer fee is very high, but he couldn't make it awesome during being in PSG.
The power of a club is absolute, but if later Enrique expects Neymar to stay at PSG, of course that will be a serious consideration for next season's competition. I think that even if there was no Neymar, PSG would still win the Ligue 1 title and they would still need new players to enter a more difficult competition, namely the champions league. At the moment PSG have not had many rumors regarding the players they will sign in the summer and I think they should do it soon because a team like Lens will be one of their competitors in Ligue 1 next season.

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June 23, 2023, 03:58:21 AM
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Yes, unfortunately it is. If Neymar doesn't have many injuries, maybe we will see him playing to his full optimal, as a striker and the most expensive player he should be able to give good results for PSG. By the way, if Luis Enrique becomes PSG new coach, Neymar is likely can stay in Paris. Because Enrique really understands the character of this striker, so I think there is still an opportunity for Neymar to show his great skills at PSG.
Even though PSG has planned to let Neymar go and there are already several clubs that are eyeing him, moreover Man United or Chelsea. but this is still a rumour. If it turns out that Enrique later changes his mind, he might reconsider. But in my opinion, PSG will still let Neymar go if there is a price agreement with another club. He had quite a small contribution during the last season in PSG although his transfer fee is very high, but he couldn't make it awesome during being in PSG.

Unlike Mbappe, neymar isn't new in the system. And is not too anxious about achievements. He is the kind of guy that applies his technique slowly and yet achieves what he wants. I'm not sure Neymar will leave PSG as soon as the press says. Neymar still has a lot to offer the club and at the same time earned from the club and I feel he will do that before leaving. It will be an interesting decision if PSG can bring in a coach like Enriqur to manage for them cuz this may change the decision of most of the players who already have doubts about staying by next season.

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June 23, 2023, 09:22:18 AM
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I don't think Mbappe wants to leave Paris Saint-Germain as a free agent so much that he will refuse to move to Real Madrid in this transfer window if the clubs agree. It's just that now is the most realistic chance for Mbappe to go to Real Madrid with an option that suits all three sides, that is, Paris Saint-Germain will receive a decent compensation. On the contrary, there is a very high probability that Mbappe deliberately leaked his letter to the press refusing to extend his contract with PSG in order to move to Real Madrid right now, and not wait for next year. And all his statements about his intention to work out the contract to the end may be an element of pressure on PSG to bring down the price.

Mbappe was smart enough. He wants to stay while PSG wants him to leave. Both parties are in disagreement with each other and have conflicting opinions. The only problem is how much money will be asked by PSG for mbappe to leave from the team? Will real madrid can afford to pay it?
I think that this becomes the main question right now. Let's say that if PSG value him at a hundred million pounds and Real Madrid refuses to take him, but another team is willing..
Will mbappe personally agree with its buyer?

It's caused by personal agreement between player and buyer has become main of requirements to complete the transaction. If mbappe will not make a personal agreement with its buyer and the transaction will never happen.
Think about that. This is a complicated case caused by both of parties are contradicting one to each other.

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June 23, 2023, 10:10:57 AM
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Neymar is still a really solid player in his role but he has been struggling with injury problems for a long time. Last season was also not quite good for him in terms of this situation. Otherwise his statistics until getting injured last season were really impressive. At this point I don't know if PSG would continue with him for at least one more season.

There are still speculations like he could leave indeed. But I don't feel like PSG will force him to leave as long as they don't get an official offer. I don't think he would go to Saudi Arabia just yet by the way. If we don't see an offer by a European team then he might also join Messi in the MLS.

Messi got an enormous contract by Inter Miami and a similar one might be offered to Neymar as well.

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June 23, 2023, 10:18:11 AM
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Yes, unfortunately it is. If Neymar doesn't have many injuries, maybe we will see him playing to his full optimal, as a striker and the most expensive player he should be able to give good results for PSG. By the way, if Luis Enrique becomes PSG new coach, Neymar is likely can stay in Paris. Because Enrique really understands the character of this striker, so I think there is still an opportunity for Neymar to show his great skills at PSG.
Even though PSG has planned to let Neymar go and there are already several clubs that are eyeing him, moreover Man United or Chelsea. but this is still a rumor. If it turns out that Enrique later changes his mind, he might reconsider. But in my opinion, PSG will still let Neymar go if there is a price agreement with another club. He had quite a small contribution during the last season in PSG although his transfer fee is very high, but he couldn't make it awesome during being in PSG.
This transfer season, PSG will lose several players it is clear that Messi, Mbappe and also Neymar, but these three players are PSG's core players, so it will be difficult for the club if they do not get replacements the same for all three players.
But are you sure this will be a bad start for PSG because they have lost their best players and only got poor substitutes?

Even though this is still a rumor but most of us believe that it will happen in the future.

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June 23, 2023, 10:18:32 AM
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I can't say that league title is actually worthless. But when it is PSG and they are only being able to win the league titles, I will say that it is genuinely worthless. Because they have the most amount of money compared to any other club in the league.

So they are supposed to win the league title. I know that they are not having the type of success that let's say Bayern Munich is happening. But that makes things worse. Because there are teams which have money in the Bundesliga. But Bayern Munich is so good that they are not facing too many problems. But PSG is not being able to do that. At least PSG is not winning the league title 10 years back to back.

In the English Premier league we say its competitive because one club cannot win the league for 10 years back to back. But in the French league we say PSG is not a good club that is why they cant win the league 10 straight years. Why cant we also say its a competitive league that's why PSG cant win it that way.

PSG has not lived up to expectation since the takeover, but we cant judge them solely by their failures in the champions league. How long did it take Manchester City, spearheaded by the best coach in the world to win a champions league?
The league can never be worthless, however you look at it.

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June 23, 2023, 10:45:08 AM
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It is very difficult to find players like Messi and Ronaldo whose abilities are beyond doubt. And I think that instead of looking for the star player they want, it's better for them to make it themselves, or in other words they look for young players, both from their academy and from anywhere, and they create it, like Borussia Dortmund did for example. I don't deny that having star players while they can pay for them is not a problem, but there are things that are more important in my opinion, namely when they can have a solid squad and good teamwork. Even though there may not be any players who really stand out, if their team play is great then it will bring an achievement.
That's better but very difficult to do in the French league because as we all know to make the best players yourself it doesn't just take a little time and it will require very good coaches here and it takes a lot of money to facilitate young players to become the best players.
Even though in the French league it is difficult to build the best players and prefer to buy reliable players like Ronaldo and Messi because the very rich finances in several French leagues choose to buy rather than make their own reliable players because it will only waste time.
This was all caused because the clubs in the French league wanted to have the big league title, so they preferred a short time to spend a lot of money to achieve their dreams, but all failed.
I wouldn't say it was easy, but if they didn't try to do it I wouldn't say it was difficult. How do we know they will be successful or not with a youth player coaching program or looking for young players who have great potential that they can develop. I don't even remember or have ever seen any young players emerge from Ligue 1 in general, particularly from Paris Saint Germain.
I say they should give it a try, even though they may not see the results in 1, 2 or 3 years, they will know 5 or 10 years from when they started the program.



It is very difficult to find players like Messi and Ronaldo whose abilities are beyond doubt. And I think that instead of looking for the star player they want, it's better for them to make it themselves, or in other words they look for young players, both from their academy and from anywhere, and they create it, like Borussia Dortmund did for example. I don't deny that having star players while they can pay for them is not a problem, but there are things that are more important in my opinion, namely when they can have a solid squad and good teamwork. Even though there may not be any players who really stand out, if their team play is great then it will bring an achievement.

By the way, Real Madrid bought 16-year-old Andrik for 70 million (this is the total amount with bonuses) - this is more expensive than Neymar and Bellingham were bought at one time. Until the age of 18, he will continue to play in Palmeiras, and then move to Real Madrid. It is obvious that Real believes that they found (although everyone was talking about him) a new generation star and were able to buy it in advance. I'm not from Brazil, so I just heard about him recently, but the fact is that potential (or already active young) stars are searched for and identified very early.
Yes, not only 1 or 2 times Real Madrid did that, they tried to invest in young players even though there was no guarantee that the players they invested would experience good or bad development. And Real Madrid also often fail with their young players, even when the mature players they bring in in the transfer market are not all successful, and that is normal in football. But what I want to emphasize here is how they dare to take risks and even when failure is very acceptable to them. They had already considered this, so they were prepared for something bad that awaited them ahead.

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June 23, 2023, 10:55:22 AM
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In the English Premier league we say its competitive because one club cannot win the league for 10 years back to back. But in the French league we say PSG is not a good club that is why they cant win the league 10 straight years. Why cant we also say its a competitive league that's why PSG cant win it that way.

PSG has not lived up to expectation since the takeover, but we cant judge them solely by their failures in the champions league. How long did it take Manchester City, spearheaded by the best coach in the world to win a champions league?
The league can never be worthless, however you look at it.
well, now we try to think about this problem slowly. didn't PSG already have the best players last season like Mbappe, Messi, Neymar but they still failed to get a trophy in the UCL. is this the coach's fault or is it just the players who are less consistent in every match.
I always think about this because PSG is not short of great players but they failed to compete in the champions league while Man City were able to get the UCL trophy after the good contribution of their mainstay player Haaland.

or can we blame the coach who failed to bring PSG success to win the title in the champions league? but it's hard to blame the PSG coach because Galtier is one of the best coaches and has a good experience here.

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June 23, 2023, 11:25:29 AM
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This transfer season, PSG will lose several players it is clear that Messi, Mbappe and also Neymar, but these three players are PSG's core players, so it will be difficult for the club if they do not get replacements the same for all three players.
But are you sure this will be a bad start for PSG because they have lost their best players and only got poor substitutes?

Even though this is still a rumor but most of us believe that it will happen in the future.

In my opinion, i do not think that PSG will find it difficult if they lose Neymar, Mbappe and Messi (already left for Inter Miami) this summer window. It was inevitable to happen since the worldcup2022 ended and i would be shocked if the PSG management did not plan for this. Instead of pressuring Mbappe, i think PSG should begin to look for quality valuavle replacement from their academy or even the french league itself.
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June 23, 2023, 11:36:01 AM
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Another good news for Real Madrid and bad news for PSG is, It seems the Emir of Qatar asked Mbappe to extend his contract or they will sell this player this summer.
Real Madrid is obviously waiting for this moment to hire Mbappe.

https://psgtalk.com/2023/06/emir-of-qatar-to-mbappe-extend-contract-at-psg-or-be-sold-this-summer/

A logical continuation of the whole situation that has arisen. I hope they will not break comedy for a long time and pretend that not everything has been decided yet and we will finally see the end of this series.
By the way, formally it will be the most expensive transfer in history - 200 million + 50 million in the form of bonuses. Neymar's transfer was more expensive, plus Mbappe's re-signing to PSG too, but in the form of a fair transfer, it will be a record.

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June 23, 2023, 11:43:59 AM
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The power of a club is absolute, but if later Enrique expects Neymar to stay at PSG, of course that will be a serious consideration for next season's competition. I think that even if there was no Neymar, PSG would still win the Ligue 1 title and they would still need new players to enter a more difficult competition, namely the champions league. At the moment PSG have not had many rumors regarding the players they will sign in the summer and I think they should do it soon because a team like Lens will be one of their competitors in Ligue 1 next season.

I see Luis Enrique and Zidane are both near to PSG and they still didn't officially say anything about their new coach.
Zidane is a successful coach and he had a good performance in Real Madrid when he was working there but he didn't work in other teams I think Enrique on the other hand because of the tactic he usually uses can't be a good option for PSG.
Also, doesn't really matter if Enrique wants to work with Neymar or not because the Neymar we see recently in PSG is far from what we saw in Barcelona.

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June 23, 2023, 12:21:17 PM
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Neymar is still a really solid player in his role but he has been struggling with injury problems for a long time. Last season was also not quite good for him in terms of this situation. Otherwise his statistics until getting injured last season were really impressive. At this point I don't know if PSG would continue with him for at least one more season.

There are still speculations like he could leave indeed. But I don't feel like PSG will force him to leave as long as they don't get an official offer. I don't think he would go to Saudi Arabia just yet by the way. If we don't see an offer by a European team then he might also join Messi in the MLS.

Messi got an enormous contract by Inter Miami and a similar one might be offered to Neymar as well.
If Neymar had been more athletic, maybe he would have had fewer injuries. Judging by the news, Neymar is busy doing everything but training, he either attends Formula 1 or cheats on his girlfriend, and injuries don't bother him! Of course, with such an attitude it will not be easy for him with Luis Enrique, with whom they have already worked in Barcelona.
Chances of Neymar to stay in PSG are, it is unlikely the player with such behavior to buy a top club, but he can still play, his age allows it.

In general, the talent of Neymar was just huge and how he used it is a separate story for anyone who does not want to lose his talent.
Not only that Neymar possessed excellent feints, had a sharp sense, was able to score, but unlike many Brazilian strikers he was physically strong, maintained the pace of matches without slumps and when necessary gave passes.

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June 23, 2023, 12:31:41 PM
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I see Luis Enrique and Zidane are both near to PSG and they still didn't officially say anything about their new coach.
Zidane is a successful coach and he had a good performance in Real Madrid when he was working there but he didn't work in other teams I think Enrique on the other hand because of the tactic he usually uses can't be a good option for PSG.
Also, doesn't really matter if Enrique wants to work with Neymar or not because the Neymar we see recently in PSG is far from what we saw in Barcelona.

PSG have tried several times to bring in Zidane but it is still very difficult, but there is a possibility with Luis Enrique especially after failing to become Chelsea coach and the opportunity for Henrique to return to coaching after being sacked from the position of coach of the Spanish National Team.

But until right now, PSG still not announce their interested for signing between Zidane or Luis Henrique after sacking Christophe Galtier have success won Ligue 1 tittle this season. I think if Zidane denies with PSG is not bad ideas try to signing Luis Henrique because has good experienced winning Champion Leage tittle with Barcelona.

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June 23, 2023, 12:57:45 PM
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PSG team management could not collect anything great from a player like Lionel Messi. In fact, I think the PSC team coach does not know how to play Lionel Messi. However, if Kylian Mbappe ever leaves PSG, the team will collapse.
In general, PSG has never depended on just two players and if PSG did depend on just two players, it was clear that the team would collapse because the team did not respect the other players in the team. But for next season what PSG really needs is a great young player even if he's not a star, because the PSG team can't keep hoping for one or two star players who aren't young anymore. So PSG must be able to find great young players in the transfer market before next season starts.
I won't go into the argument about whether PSG is dependent on only two players. I would say PSG have had a lot of star players but their performances have been erratic. Since their overall performance was erratic, it didn't matter if their team relied on just two players. Bonding between players was weak at PSG. If they want to do well next season, PSG management should revamp the entire squad. If not, I think the team will be eliminated from the first round of the Champions League next season.
Messi has left the PSG team. Because Messi was not able to achieve much in this team. The aim of adding Lionel Messi to the team was to do something great in the Champions League. But that purpose was not fulfilled. But football fans are hoping that Messi will do something great at the next club.

Messi has left the team, and PSG management is trying to sell Neymar as well. PSG needs suitable replacements for these two key players. If they want to eat well in the coming season. However, we do not know which player PSG management is interested in replacing Messi and Neymar. Also, we don't know if the PSG management is willing to spend a lot of money like before. But expect PSG to form a strong squad next season.

Nobody can be an alternative for Messi and fill his position at PSG also there is the same story for Neymar, even if they had a bad performance recently still Neymar was a legend in PSG for weeks before he gets injured.
Also heard there are some other people who want to leave PSG this season and it seems the owner of PSG needs to find players and this is so hard when we are talking about players like Messi.


I agree with that, it's not for comparison, but in the case of Bayern something like that happened, and Bayern let Lewa lose and currently they haven't been able to cover that position , in fact it was difficult for them to win the UCL because they were eliminated, so this guy of players when the coaches let them leave they should be fired Immediately because they don't know how to use those tremendous resources, now PSG's fault for not winning everything is the same technical staff, starting with the coach and ending with the Sheikh, because the Players They are directed and clearly letting their stars or most of them go and only keeping one is something that will never be a good deal.

I see Luis Enrique and Zidane are both near to PSG and they still didn't officially say anything about their new coach.
Zidane is a successful coach and he had a good performance in Real Madrid when he was working there but he didn't work in other teams I think Enrique on the other hand because of the tactic he usually uses can't be a good option for PSG.
Also, doesn't really matter if Enrique wants to work with Neymar or not because the Neymar we see recently in PSG is far from what we saw in Barcelona.

PSG have tried several times to bring in Zidane but it is still very difficult, but there is a possibility with Luis Enrique especially after failing to become Chelsea coach and the opportunity for Henrique to return to coaching after being sacked from the position of coach of the Spanish National Team.

But until right now, PSG still not announce their interested for signing between Zidane or Luis Henrique after sacking Christophe Galtier have success won Ligue 1 tittle this season. I think if Zidane denies with PSG is not bad ideas try to signing Luis Henrique because has good experienced winning Champion Leage tittle with Barcelona.

Well, personally I don't think Luis Enrique is the best option for him to have a team as big as PSGH, firstly because in the Spanish team he showed that he is a resentful person, he did not look for even 1 Real Madrid player Just because of the rivalry he feels towards the team, he is a person who does not value veteran players (unless they are from Barcelona) , otherwise he does not call them to play, he gives priority to inexperienced players, appealing only to youth It's better, so they fired him from the national team for a reason, and I think he's very arrogant, I think that coach is similar to Ten Hag , he's very Problematic, if PSG wants to get into more trouble they Should hire him.

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June 23, 2023, 01:07:18 PM
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Another good news for Real Madrid and bad news for PSG is, It seems the Emir of Qatar asked Mbappe to extend his contract or they will sell this player this summer.
Real Madrid is obviously waiting for this moment to hire Mbappe.

https://psgtalk.com/2023/06/emir-of-qatar-to-mbappe-extend-contract-at-psg-or-be-sold-this-summer/

I think its a complicated news tbh. Its been a long while when Perez has splashed alot of money repeatedly on signings, now after getting Bellingham for 100M, would Real Madrid pay PSG asking price of 200M? With just a year contract on Mbappe deal?
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Yes, unfortunately it is. If Neymar doesn't have many injuries, maybe we will see him playing to his full optimal, as a striker and the most expensive player he should be able to give good results for PSG. By the way, if Luis Enrique becomes PSG new coach, Neymar is likely can stay in Paris. Because Enrique really understands the character of this striker, so I think there is still an opportunity for Neymar to show his great skills at PSG.
Even though PSG has planned to let Neymar go and there are already several clubs that are eyeing him, moreover Man United or Chelsea. but this is still a rumor. If it turns out that Enrique later changes his mind, he might reconsider. But in my opinion, PSG will still let Neymar go if there is a price agreement with another club. He had quite a small contribution during the last season in PSG although his transfer fee is very high, but he couldn't make it awesome during being in PSG.

We haven't seen the news from any authentic sources on whether Neymar will be sold by PSG. But we are hearing many rumors regarding this. Neymar has not fared much better with PSG. And so it is likely that PSG management will sell Neymar and look for a new player. We are hearing rumors that Manchester United and Chelsea are interested in Neymar. But I don't know why United and Chelsea would want an injury-prone player like Neymar. The Premier League is very competitive. Neymar's wages are also very high. And so I don't think Chelsea or United will eventually include Neymar in the team.

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June 23, 2023, 02:46:39 PM
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Yes, unfortunately it is. If Neymar doesn't have many injuries, maybe we will see him playing to his full optimal, as a striker and the most expensive player he should be able to give good results for PSG. By the way, if Luis Enrique becomes PSG new coach, Neymar is likely can stay in Paris. Because Enrique really understands the character of this striker, so I think there is still an opportunity for Neymar to show his great skills at PSG.
I also think so, I think Neymar's future lies with Luis Enrique if he becomes PSG coach it will be a big project. PSG have a great team, they have no rivals in their league (they only have pressure from the Champions League). they also have the money to sign the players they want, plus the French league puts out very good players every year. And there is still a lot of untapped potential and they have to try. If they take Luis Enrique and bet on him the way City bet on Pep Guardiola, I believe PSG will be at the level of a big club in a few years.
Luis Enrique can be great as a coach especially for Neymar as Neymar played under him for a long time at Barcelona. PSG should have thought about these issues earlier but instead of thinking about good quality coaches, they just hired good quality players with high salaries. First of all the team needs a good quality manager, if a good quality manager is appointed in the team then good players will surely come in the team if there are no financial problems. Since PSC has no financial problems, if they hire good quality managers, they can take their club much further with like-minded players in their team.  

Luis Enrique may be considered by PSG. PSG will definitely do well if they make the team with him.

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June 23, 2023, 02:57:56 PM
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Luis Enrique can be great as a coach especially for Neymar as Neymar played under him for a long time at Barcelona. PSG should have thought about these issues earlier but instead of thinking about good quality coaches, they just hired good quality players with high salaries. First of all the team needs a good quality manager, if a good quality manager is appointed in the team then good players will surely come in the team if there are no financial problems. Since PSC has no financial problems, if they hire good quality managers, they can take their club much further with like-minded players in their team.  

Luis Enrique may be considered by PSG. PSG will definitely do well if they make the team with him.

Basically PSG can have star players and great coaches at the same time, because PSG has good finances. That way, PSG should be able to get better and stronger in the Champions League and not only in Ligue 1. Also, Luis Enrique is a great coach, but in this case we can't just relate him to Neymar because after all, Luis Enrique is too will not only coach Neymar at PSG. So yes, even though PSG can't sign Luis Enrique, basically PSG can still sign other great coaches too and not just focus on Luis Enrique.

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