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July 12, 2023, 03:35:13 PM
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PSG officially announced its sixth recruit, namely Cher Ndour from Benfica as a free agent. He plays as a central midfielder and this is very good news for the PSG squad because right now they really need a ball player to always create opportunities in attack. But he can also play the role of AMF or SS, so this player can rotate according to the needs of the club.

I think now PSG is just looking for the main striker position because that is the only position left which is currently vacant. Especially if there is a bad possibility later when Mbappe leaves, then at least this hole has been properly addressed.
After getting players at the back line and also in the middle line, indeed PSG have to get a new player in an attacking line position, because Messi is no longer playing for PSG and considering Mbappe position is also not very clear at the moment. Although there is currently Asensio in the PSG squad, but Osimhen is a good option for PSG. By the way, I think the recruitment of PSG players this season is amazing, they recruited 3 potential young players, I mean Manuel Ugarte, Kang-in lee and Cher Ndour. It seems, there is high probability for PSG to win the UCL title, especially Enrique has a lot of experience in that event.
Since this is the first season for some of PSG's new recruits, I think it's too soon to win the champions league title. Maybe for the three young players you mentioned it is better to maintain their quality first with one of them helping to secure the Ligue 1 title which so far has been a definite title that PSG can win every season.

The presence of Luis Enrique is also not necessarily a lubricant to facilitate PSG's chances of winning various titles and I think it is better for his first season to keep his players stable. After that, they can focus on thinking about how to win the Champions League title for the first time, and that must also be accompanied by a qualified squad update with other talented players.

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July 12, 2023, 03:53:25 PM
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PSG officially announced its sixth recruit, namely Cher Ndour from Benfica as a free agent. He plays as a central midfielder and this is very good news for the PSG squad because right now they really need a ball player to always create opportunities in attack. But he can also play the role of AMF or SS, so this player can rotate according to the needs of the club.

I think now PSG is just looking for the main striker position because that is the only position left which is currently vacant. Especially if there is a bad possibility later when Mbappe leaves, then at least this hole has been properly addressed.
After getting players at the back line and also in the middle line, indeed PSG have to get a new player in an attacking line position, because Messi is no longer playing for PSG and considering Mbappe position is also not very clear at the moment. Although there is currently Asensio in the PSG squad, but Osimhen is a good option for PSG. By the way, I think the recruitment of PSG players this season is amazing, they recruited 3 potential young players, I mean Manuel Ugarte, Kang-in lee and Cher Ndour. It seems, there is high probability for PSG to win the UCL title, especially Enrique has a lot of experience in that event.
Since this is the first season for some of PSG's new recruits, I think it's too soon to win the champions league title. Maybe for the three young players you mentioned it is better to maintain their quality first with one of them helping to secure the Ligue 1 title which so far has been a definite title that PSG can win every season.

The presence of Luis Enrique is also not necessarily a lubricant to facilitate PSG's chances of winning various titles and I think it is better for his first season to keep his players stable. After that, they can focus on thinking about how to win the Champions League title for the first time, and that must also be accompanied by a qualified squad update with other talented players.

What kind of term is "too soon" in the context of winning the Champions League? Do you mean it is impossible or do you mean it is not right to expect PSG to win it? Because there is no !too soon" in my opinion. Was it too soon for Inter Milan as well because they haven't been in a final for over a decade? One reason might be that the Ligue 1 is too weak and PSG is the outlier, which means that they are unchallenged most of the time and then they face the heavy weights and don't know how to handle it. There is a reason that the last winner from Ligue 1 was in 1992/93 when Marseille won it and that was the only time in the last 70 years. 

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July 12, 2023, 04:07:10 PM
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I'm really finding it difficult to believe that Mbappe is still not interested in staying at PSG knowing how much they (PSG board of directors) are ready to splash on him in terms of salary to be paid. After making those comments during the Interview last week I just feel that things between Mbappe and the fans ain't going to be the same again. I'd let him have a taste of what Messi and Neymar Jr went through from the fans, how they boobed those players without considering how they (Messi and Neymar Jr) feel or how they are ready to play and win trophies for the PSG side. But it's clear that Mbappe don't want to play or stay at the club again. My question is, what kind of reception is Mbappe going to receive from the fans?
Mbappe is wanna trying to get more achievement. Staying in PSG mean if his career is gonna stuck at the same place. There's no choice for him than leave from the club to join in a better club like real madrid. No guarantee if PSG will able to win UCL.
PSG could not even do that with messi. Based on my assessment, it would be wise for Mbappe to leave PSG and join another club. There is also another club that can offer him good salary. PSG is not the only richest club in the european football. So many EPL clubs are also putting their eyes on mbappe too. The competition to get mbappe gonna be harder than what already speculated by real madrid.
I agree with you that if Kylian Mbappe wants to continue his career to get better maybe he will choose to leave Paris SG and try to choose another club that has the potential to be able to win the Champions League trophy such as Manchester city, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich.
But I would agree more if Kylian Mbappe wants to join a club in the EPL, it will be much better because at this time the potential for EPL clubs to have a huge influence in being able to continue to the champions league.

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July 12, 2023, 04:14:30 PM
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I'm really finding it difficult to believe that Mbappe is still not interested in staying at PSG knowing how much they (PSG board of directors) are ready to splash on him in terms of salary to be paid. After making those comments during the Interview last week I just feel that things between Mbappe and the fans ain't going to be the same again. I'd let him have a taste of what Messi and Neymar Jr went through from the fans, how they boobed those players without considering how they (Messi and Neymar Jr) feel or how they are ready to play and win trophies for the PSG side. But it's clear that Mbappe don't want to play or stay at the club again. My question is, what kind of reception is Mbappe going to receive from the fans?
Mbappe is wanna trying to get more achievement. Staying in PSG mean if his career is gonna stuck at the same place. There's no choice for him than leave from the club to join in a better club like real madrid. No guarantee if PSG will able to win UCL.
PSG could not even do that with messi. Based on my assessment, it would be wise for Mbappe to leave PSG and join another club. There is also another club that can offer him good salary. PSG is not the only richest club in the european football. So many EPL clubs are also putting their eyes on mbappe too. The competition to get mbappe gonna be harder than what already speculated by real madrid.
We're really getting fed up with all the problems Kylian Mbappe's issues. Honestly, it seems like he could be sold for a much lower price considering he only has one year left on his contract. The club doesn't want to risk losing him for free next season, but they can't force him to stay either. I personally believe he'll end up leaving for about half of his current value.

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July 12, 2023, 04:23:38 PM
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Mbappe is one of the best players in the world right now. He is still very young and already has so many titles that older players don't have. He has a lot of ambition and wants to achieve big results. PSG is not a bad club, but Mbappe realises that apart from money he will not get much here. He needs titles in Europe.
If Mbappe still has ambitions to win titles in Europe or titles like the Champions League, then the solution is to move to a team that has often won the Champions League and also their own league. Even though PSG still win Ligue1 very often, PSG still haven't proven their ability in the Champions League so that is what Mbappe has yet to achieve at PSG. And if next season Mbappe still stays at PSG, of course he hopes that PSG can really have extraordinary abilities in the Champions League besides in Ligue 1.

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July 12, 2023, 04:37:41 PM
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I'm really finding it difficult to believe that Mbappe is still not interested in staying at PSG knowing how much they (PSG board of directors) are ready to splash on him in terms of salary to be paid. After making those comments during the Interview last week I just feel that things between Mbappe and the fans ain't going to be the same again. I'd let him have a taste of what Messi and Neymar Jr went through from the fans, how they boobed those players without considering how they (Messi and Neymar Jr) feel or how they are ready to play and win trophies for the PSG side. But it's clear that Mbappe don't want to play or stay at the club again. My question is, what kind of reception is Mbappe going to receive from the fans?
Mbappe is wanna trying to get more achievement. Staying in PSG mean if his career is gonna stuck at the same place. There's no choice for him than leave from the club to join in a better club like real madrid. No guarantee if PSG will able to win UCL.
PSG could not even do that with messi. Based on my assessment, it would be wise for Mbappe to leave PSG and join another club. There is also another club that can offer him good salary. PSG is not the only richest club in the european football. So many EPL clubs are also putting their eyes on mbappe too. The competition to get mbappe gonna be harder than what already speculated by real madrid.

Mbappe has previously told the club he would not leave for free. as Nasser Al Khelaifi said, during his interview session some time ago. Now, Mbappe has changed his mind and I'm sure no club wants to lose out on his player leaving on a free agent. because after all, PSG has spent a lot of money on mbappe. ideally, now the club and Mbappe will find a middle ground. if we refer to what Al Khelaifi said. he wants Mbappe to stay but with new contacts. after that, Mabppe may leave in the next season. thus, PSG will not suffer too big a loss.

Another scenario, Madrid will try to make an approach with an appropriate price to be mutually agreed upon. thus, PSG no longer need to pay bonuses for Mbappe. referring to what you said, which Premier League club would pay Mbappe's value of €200 million. while City already has Haaland. also the problem, Mbappe only wants Madrid. then, is Madrid willing to pay a fantastic price after Perez said he would not bring in another striker. ideally if Mbappe wants to leave, he can do it. but with conditions, renew his contract and PSG will change to reduce their burden if Mbappe leaves later. After that, Mbappe can go play for the club he wants and PSG will not suffer too much.

Well another problem, as said by @Sexylizzy2813. that the relationship between Mbappe and Ultras will not be as it used to be. it could be, if Mbappe will come under pressure.

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Luis Enrique won Champions League with Barcelona but he got it only one time, less than Zidane. He only had more seasons and worked with more clubs than Zidane but about achievements, he got less than Zidane. Luis Enrique already got experience with Spain national team which is what he did more than Zidane so far in their coach careers.

Taking a job at PSG is a big challenge for Enrique and I am curiously to see how he does his job with PSG.
If you compare Zidane and Luis Enrique, there will be a very big difference because Zidane has proven to have achieved several achievements in the Champions League and very good experience in other leagues. related about this, if Zidane will accept PSG's offer I think Zidane will hold PSG but in reality Zidane doesn't want to coach in french team because he still wants to be in some premier league team.
and on the one hand even though Luis Enrique has experience in the champions league with Barcelona but I'm not sure about him because it's not easy to train PSG for now because there are some problems that Luis Enrique has to solve. it's not that I doubt Luis Enrique it's just that I don't believe in his experience.
There is a bit of a problem with that logic though, we are talking about something that would be seriously skewed to one direction and unfortunately fail at the same time as well. I am not saying Zidane is bad or anything of course, Zidane is great, but he had 3 years and 3 ucl's and because of that everyone thinks he is all-time worthy manager. Give him 10-15 more years as a manager and see how he does before we can judge him.

Louis Enrique definitely managed his fair share of players and teams which I believe that would be a bit of a trouble, but looking into the current situation I would say that the best thing about him is that at least he has experience, Zidane doesn't have that and that's the difference between them.

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There is a bit of a problem with that logic though, we are talking about something that would be seriously skewed to one direction and unfortunately fail at the same time as well. I am not saying Zidane is bad or anything of course, Zidane is great, but he had 3 years and 3 ucl's and because of that everyone thinks he is all-time worthy manager. Give him 10-15 more years as a manager and see how he does before we can judge him.

Louis Enrique definitely managed his fair share of players and teams which I believe that would be a bit of a trouble, but looking into the current situation I would say that the best thing about him is that at least he has experience, Zidane doesn't have that and that's the difference between them.
Let's assume that Zidane was lucky to have achieved more in a few years but football is all about trophies and not years of experience. It will be nice if Zidane moves to another club to prove his worth. We don't have the potency of predicting the future so we don't know how the Frenchman's coaching career will turn out in a few years to come. But for now, Zidane is one of the most highly respected coaches in the world.

I am very confident that Enrique will manage the PSG team effectively because of his wealth of experience. He would be able to command the respect of the PSG player better than Christophe Galtier. I assume that the rumor of indiscipline and conflict between most top PSG players was a result of his inability to control the big names. Concerning Mbappe the club has made their position clear, let him sign a new contract or consider moving out of the team. The club is willing to sell him to any club that can pay his €200m price tag. But clubs are also scared by his high wage.
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July 12, 2023, 05:24:56 PM
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Since this is the first season for some of PSG's new recruits, I think it's too soon to win the champions league title. Maybe for the three young players you mentioned it is better to maintain their quality first with one of them helping to secure the Ligue 1 title which so far has been a definite title that PSG can win every season.

The presence of Luis Enrique is also not necessarily a lubricant to facilitate PSG's chances of winning various titles and I think it is better for his first season to keep his players stable. After that, they can focus on thinking about how to win the Champions League title for the first time, and that must also be accompanied by a qualified squad update with other talented players.
You're right, it's too early to say that because there are a lot of big, quality clubs out there in different leagues, and their experience can be considered quite experienced. Yes, we also have to see how performance PSG in the next new season, whether they look good enough or bad. But I think they will get better under Enrique leadership. Somehow I can think like that, maybe look at his track record. The reason is, when leading Barcelona in his first season they were able to secure the UCL title and it is possible that he can also be lucky in his first season with PSG.

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July 12, 2023, 05:49:49 PM
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There is a bit of a problem with that logic though, we are talking about something that would be seriously skewed to one direction and unfortunately fail at the same time as well. I am not saying Zidane is bad or anything of course, Zidane is great, but he had 3 years and 3 ucl's and because of that everyone thinks he is all-time worthy manager. Give him 10-15 more years as a manager and see how he does before we can judge him.

Louis Enrique definitely managed his fair share of players and teams which I believe that would be a bit of a trouble, but looking into the current situation I would say that the best thing about him is that at least he has experience, Zidane doesn't have that and that's the difference between them.
Let's assume that Zidane was lucky to have achieved more in a few years but football is all about trophies and not years of experience. It will be nice if Zidane moves to another club to prove his worth. We don't have the potency of predicting the future so we don't know how the Frenchman's coaching career will turn out in a few years to come. But for now, Zidane is one of the most highly respected coaches in the world.

I am very confident that Enrique will manage the PSG team effectively because of his wealth of experience. He would able to command the respect of the PSG player better than than Christophe Galtier. I assume that   the rumor of indiscipline and conflict between most top PSG players was as a result of his inability to control the big names. Concerning Mbappe the club has made their position clear, let him sign a new contract or consider moving out of the team.
IMO in moving to a club to prove quality in this case I think regardless of the club there still has to be proof done and precisely when in a big club the pressure given and the proof done is even greater.
Currently Zidane remains one of the phenomenal figures so it is difficult to criticize this person because when he coaches it is difficult to make the club he coaches end tragically from the results.

Enrique has quite good experience and he is also one of the coaches who I think has experienced ups and downs in performance but indeed by giving full trust at this time to Enrique then there is indeed no other choice for PSG but to continue that trust at least for this season.

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July 12, 2023, 06:05:21 PM
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There is a bit of a problem with that logic though, we are talking about something that would be seriously skewed to one direction and unfortunately fail at the same time as well. I am not saying Zidane is bad or anything of course, Zidane is great, but he had 3 years and 3 ucl's and because of that everyone thinks he is all-time worthy manager. Give him 10-15 more years as a manager and see how he does before we can judge him.

Louis Enrique definitely managed his fair share of players and teams which I believe that would be a bit of a trouble, but looking into the current situation I would say that the best thing about him is that at least he has experience, Zidane doesn't have that and that's the difference between them.

I understand you about your point of view. It has truth in it also because we really need a long time period to announce a manager like one of the bests or so. However he is still technically very successful. Even though he didn't have long years at Real Madrid as a manager he still used this time period very effectively and won 3 Champions League titles in a row.

I don't believe this is a job that anyone can do although the team we are talking about is Real Madrid. This is a high level consistency and Ancelotti couldn't do the same so far.

But on the other hand we watched Zidane this much successful only at Real Madrid. We never know what he can do with other top teams.

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Mbappe is one of the best players in the world right now. He is still very young and already has so many titles that older players don't have. He has a lot of ambition and wants to achieve big results. PSG is not a bad club, but Mbappe realises that apart from money he will not get much here. He needs titles in Europe.
If Mbappe still has ambitions to win titles in Europe or titles like the Champions League, then the solution is to move to a team that has often won the Champions League and also their own league. Even though PSG still win Ligue1 very often, PSG still haven't proven their ability in the Champions League so that is what Mbappe has yet to achieve at PSG. And if next season Mbappe still stays at PSG, of course he hopes that PSG can really have extraordinary abilities in the Champions League besides in Ligue 1.
PSG have been unable to win the Champions League for a long time now. This season they had Messi, Mbappe and Neymar. This is the best attacking line up of any European club. Even Manchester City, who had no problem winning the Champions League this season, have a worse attacking line up than PSG. Well, the fact that PSG regularly win Ligue 1 is because they have almost no competition, and they barely won this season.

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July 12, 2023, 08:12:39 PM
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Mbappe is one of the best players in the world right now. He is still very young and already has so many titles that older players don't have. He has a lot of ambition and wants to achieve big results. PSG is not a bad club, but Mbappe realises that apart from money he will not get much here. He needs titles in Europe.
If Mbappe still has ambitions to win titles in Europe or titles like the Champions League, then the solution is to move to a team that has often won the Champions League and also their own league. Even though PSG still win Ligue1 very often, PSG still haven't proven their ability in the Champions League so that is what Mbappe has yet to achieve at PSG. And if next season Mbappe still stays at PSG, of course he hopes that PSG can really have extraordinary abilities in the Champions League besides in Ligue 1.
PSG have been unable to win the Champions League for a long time now. This season they had Messi, Mbappe and Neymar. This is the best attacking line up of any European club. Even Manchester City, who had no problem winning the Champions League this season, have a worse attacking line up than PSG. Well, the fact that PSG regularly win Ligue 1 is because they have almost no competition, and they barely won this season.

But there is something that seems to be overlooked quite often and that is the motivation and the greed for success of the players they buy. I have no doubt that Mbappe wants to win the Champions League as soon as possible as that is a title he is still missing and a player at his level would probably have won it already with a different team. But when you look at Messi and Neymar and especially Messi, these guys had their success with Barcelona and Messi has played for the best Barcelona team there has ever been. He made it be the best Barcelona team. Everyone remembers his greed for success and his determination to win the big games. He is still a genius, but was he the Messi who peaked at Barcelona also for PSG? In my opinion no and I am saying that as a Messi fan and I had a similar feeling with Neymar.

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July 12, 2023, 08:31:53 PM
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Mbappe is one of the best players in the world right now. He is still very young and already has so many titles that older players don't have. He has a lot of ambition and wants to achieve big results. PSG is not a bad club, but Mbappe realises that apart from money he will not get much here. He needs titles in Europe.
If Mbappe still has ambitions to win titles in Europe or titles like the Champions League, then the solution is to move to a team that has often won the Champions League and also their own league. Even though PSG still win Ligue1 very often, PSG still haven't proven their ability in the Champions League so that is what Mbappe has yet to achieve at PSG. And if next season Mbappe still stays at PSG, of course he hopes that PSG can really have extraordinary abilities in the Champions League besides in Ligue 1.
PSG have been unable to win the Champions League for a long time now. This season they had Messi, Mbappe and Neymar. This is the best attacking line up of any European club. Even Manchester City, who had no problem winning the Champions League this season, have a worse attacking line up than PSG. Well, the fact that PSG regularly win Ligue 1 is because they have almost no competition, and they barely won this season.

But there is something that seems to be overlooked quite often and that is the motivation and the greed for success of the players they buy. I have no doubt that Mbappe wants to win the Champions League as soon as possible as that is a title he is still missing and a player at his level would probably have won it already with a different team. But when you look at Messi and Neymar and especially Messi, these guys had their success with Barcelona and Messi has played for the best Barcelona team there has ever been. He made it be the best Barcelona team. Everyone remembers his greed for success and his determination to win the big games. He is still a genius, but was he the Messi who peaked at Barcelona also for PSG? In my opinion no and I am saying that as a Messi fan and I had a similar feeling with Neymar.

I remember Mbappe's ambition, especially in champions league matches. He had more ambition and willpower than his teammates. But they never got the trophy. This made Mbappe unhappy. We know Mbappe's interest in Real Madrid and there are constant reports of this interest. I don't understand why Real Madrid waited so long to get Mbappe.

We know that PSG's offensive line consists of world stars. Despite this, the biggest reason why they fail in the champions league is that a team is not made up of only offensive players. The defensive line should also consist of very good players.

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July 12, 2023, 10:53:40 PM
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Mbappe is one of the best players in the world right now. He is still very young and already has so many titles that older players don't have. He has a lot of ambition and wants to achieve big results. PSG is not a bad club, but Mbappe realises that apart from money he will not get much here. He needs titles in Europe.
If Mbappe still has ambitions to win titles in Europe or titles like the Champions League, then the solution is to move to a team that has often won the Champions League and also their own league. Even though PSG still win Ligue1 very often, PSG still haven't proven their ability in the Champions League so that is what Mbappe has yet to achieve at PSG. And if next season Mbappe still stays at PSG, of course he hopes that PSG can really have extraordinary abilities in the Champions League besides in Ligue 1.
PSG have been unable to win the Champions League for a long time now. This season they had Messi, Mbappe and Neymar. This is the best attacking line up of any European club. Even Manchester City, who had no problem winning the Champions League this season, have a worse attacking line up than PSG. Well, the fact that PSG regularly win Ligue 1 is because they have almost no competition, and they barely won this season.

They are unable to win the champions league mostly because the only thing PSg have is money and they don't know how to spend this money to help the team.
For example, in the last season, they has the most expensive players like Messi and Neymar but it didn't work for them.
I guess this time with their new coach Enrique they can have more chance to win the title and race for it.

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July 12, 2023, 11:47:35 PM
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We're really getting fed up with all the problems Kylian Mbappe's issues. Honestly, it seems like he could be sold for a much lower price considering he only has one year left on his contract. The club doesn't want to risk losing him for free next season, but they can't force him to stay either. I personally believe he'll end up leaving for about half of his current value.
It's not only you but me too. Mbappe doesn't wanna take win win situation for both of parties. Mbappe can leave from the club easily without any problem. The main problem was mbappe itself. PSG tries to solve the problem as soon as possible but mbappe prevents the club from doing that by being so harsh to stay in PSG for another season. The only best thing to decrease mbappe's value. It can become the only option that can be taken by PSG but club gonna faces huge loss by doing it.
At least it's far better compared with let him go with free agent next year. PSG shall consider this as the last choice for club to deceide the future of mbappe.

Mbappe's story is always become a complicated story. This player is also facing so many problems due to the various reasons.

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July 12, 2023, 11:56:16 PM
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We're really getting fed up with all the problems Kylian Mbappe's issues. Honestly, it seems like he could be sold for a much lower price considering he only has one year left on his contract. The club doesn't want to risk losing him for free next season, but they can't force him to stay either. I personally believe he'll end up leaving for about half of his current value.
It's not only you but me too. Mbappe doesn't wanna take win win situation for both of parties. Mbappe can leave from the club easily without any problem. The main problem was mbappe itself. PSG tries to solve the problem as soon as possible but mbappe prevents the club from doing that by being so harsh to stay in PSG for another season. The only best thing to decrease mbappe's value. It can become the only option that can be taken by PSG but club gonna faces huge loss by doing it.
At least it's far better compared with let him go with free agent next year. PSG shall consider this as the last choice for club to deceide the future of mbappe.

Mbappe's story is always become a complicated story. This player is also facing so many problems due to the various reasons.
I think it's time for psg to clarify about mbappe future, I mean he should be sold to another team and they will part ways in this transfer window. Seeing the case between Mbappe and PSG that didn't go according to PSG wishes, of course PSG can take a stand without having to wait for a decision from the player. It's true that Mbappe often has internal problems with other players, for example when he didn't get along with Neymar or Messi in the previous season.

So for that I think PSG will do the best for them either from a business perspective or from a loyalty point of view for Mbappe which will be seen this month. That means if Mbappe doesn't sign a new contract it means he doesn't have deep loyalty to PSG because he could leave on a free transfer next season.

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July 13, 2023, 12:32:45 AM
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I think it's time for psg to clarify about mbappe future, I mean he should be sold to another team and they will part ways in this transfer window. Seeing the case between Mbappe and PSG that didn't go according to PSG wishes, of course PSG can take a stand without having to wait for a decision from the player. It's true that Mbappe often has internal problems with other players, for example when he didn't get along with Neymar or Messi in the previous season.
PSG are clear in this summer and they sent an ultimatum to Mbappe that he has only 2 weeks to decide that he stays in PSG, signs a new contract or leaves the club in this summer. They already signed with Luis Enrique and can officially start their summer transfer season with idea and plan from their new coach and his assistant team.

If the wish of Mbappe is only for himself, PSG don't have reason to pay him more money and keep him in Paris just two or three more seasons. With Mbappe style and ambition, he is not happy to stay in PSG and Real Madrid is always in his mind. It's a joke if a player can have all good conditions in his hands, not the club that is paying his salary.

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So for that I think PSG will do the best for them either from a business perspective or from a loyalty point of view for Mbappe which will be seen this month. That means if Mbappe doesn't sign a new contract it means he doesn't have deep loyalty to PSG because he could leave on a free transfer next season.
Mbappe does not have loyalty to PSG and he only wants titles, Champions League, Ballon d'Or and money. He can easily leaves PSG in this summer and joins Real Madrid but a main barrier is he does not want to sacrifice money he will get from PSG in a last year of this contract. He wants everything for himself and I am sure both PSG and Real Madrid don't feel comfortable with it.

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July 13, 2023, 12:45:04 AM
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Since this is the first season for some of PSG's new recruits, I think it's too soon to win the champions league title. Maybe for the three young players you mentioned it is better to maintain their quality first with one of them helping to secure the Ligue 1 title which so far has been a definite title that PSG can win every season.

The presence of Luis Enrique is also not necessarily a lubricant to facilitate PSG's chances of winning various titles and I think it is better for his first season to keep his players stable. After that, they can focus on thinking about how to win the Champions League title for the first time, and that must also be accompanied by a qualified squad update with other talented players.
You're right, it's too early to say that because there are a lot of big, quality clubs out there in different leagues, and their experience can be considered quite experienced. Yes, we also have to see how performance PSG in the next new season, whether they look good enough or bad. But I think they will get better under Enrique leadership. Somehow I can think like that, maybe look at his track record. The reason is, when leading Barcelona in his first season they were able to secure the UCL title and it is possible that he can also be lucky in his first season with PSG.
Luis Enrique's track record as an experienced coach is certainly extraordinary and I personally respect him a lot. When training Barcelona it was 8 years ago and of course now the era has changed, every football development cannot be predicted easily, especially for the champions league, of course every season the winner is always different. Therefore I will be quite happy if Luis Enrique helps PSG win the Ligue 1 title first before targeting titles in other competitions. However, if Luis Enrique manages to turn this team into one to be feared from next season, I think they have a chance to win the champions league even though the possibility is very slim.

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July 13, 2023, 02:58:55 AM
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Luis Enrique's track record as an experienced coach is certainly extraordinary and I personally respect him a lot. When training Barcelona it was 8 years ago and of course now the era has changed, every football development cannot be predicted easily, especially for the champions league, of course every season the winner is always different. Therefore I will be quite happy if Luis Enrique helps PSG win the Ligue 1 title first before targeting titles in other competitions. However, if Luis Enrique manages to turn this team into one to be feared from next season, I think they have a chance to win the champions league even though the possibility is very slim.
PSG concluded that the club's problem was not the coach, but rather the players. Only then will they begin to consistently win games. PSG president Nasser Al-Khelaifi hopes to make the club an elite club, not just ahead of middling clubs, but ahead of substantial clubs. Luis Enrique is a long-time coach who has been in football and understands how all the teams functions. Luis Enrique has pressing responsibilities and targets to accomplish, and it's just a matter of time before everything falls into place. PSG is anxious to begin winning big trophies outside of its home Ligue One crown.

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