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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 84 (45.2%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.7%)
Arsenal - 39 (21%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 13 (7%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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November 03, 2022, 04:33:52 AM
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Arsenal are favorites in this match because their performance was more impressive than Chelsea this is an undeniable fact
But the prediction is based on data and match history and don't forget in the Premier League there are often surprises
Like Chelsea and Liverpool were beaten last week.
right now the odds are quite interesting as it is 2.65 for Chelsea and 2.70 for Arsenal and of course this is something worth betting on.
Regardless of how their previous H2H was actually I don't want to see that because this season they are 2 quite different clubs compared to the previous season but I am currently reflecting on their performance a few games earlier this season.

You're right, we can't compare Head to Head last season because at the moment Arsenal are 100% different I mean by performance
I also just checked the betting market today it seems the bookies predict the two teams will draw , do you agree with the bookies?
Also pay attention to both teams to score bets odss 1.69 of course this is more interesting right?

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November 03, 2022, 04:35:10 AM
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We have hope for Arsenal in this match, but a small score will complete Arsenal's victory, Chelsea are not an ordinary team when they are in the Potter ladder, the perfect result they got in the previous match is a good mix of strategy by Potter, although this positive trend must stop at Brighton Albion and FC Salzburg in the Champions League. Potter brought big changes in the body of Chelsea compared to the previous coach.
The unsatisfactory result of the Chelsea team against Brighton at The American Express Community Stadium was due to two own goals which was very painful for the Chelsea team. However, this cannot be used as a specific benchmark for Chelsea against Arsenal because the players will definitely play better and try not to make the same mistakes in the next match.

In the Champions League Chelsea managed to advance to the next round after undergoing 6 matches in the group stage with more wins, so it would be very wrong if Chelsea was considered a weak team against Arsenal, even though Arsenal are the team that still leads the Premier League standings this season.
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November 03, 2022, 04:49:27 AM
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Chelsea - Arsenal game is tough for both sides actually. Arsenal are the closer side to the win here on paper but bookmakers are still preferring Chelsea for the favourite side. The odd margin is really small though but I still wonder why they have done such thing. Honestly it might be worth trying to bet on Arsenal win @2.84.

I know that it is a quite big risk at the same time. Because Arsenal lost their first big away game to Manchester United before. Maybe they might have a hard time against Chelsea in Stamford Bridge as well. It depends on how good game plan Potter will have against them. His choices against Brighton weren't right at all. If he does the same then Arsenal can turn this into their advantage.
The match of two top Premier League teams is not only about quality but also about mentality, it's only natural that the odds for Arsenal's victory are bigger because if you look at H2H these two teams when they compete at Stamford Bridge Chelsea are superior and so is the possibility of what happened this season.

Although the quality of Arsenal's current team is more consistent than Chelsea, it is possible that they will have difficulty playing in front of Chelsea supporters again.

this of course will be a difficult match for both teams and to choose a bet is very risky, many other betting options to choose from in this match and it's not just on the victory of one team, I think it's much better.
No lies, it’s going to be a very tough game. Arsenal is in the form of their life while Chelsea are not balanced but getting results. For couple of games now, you could see Chelsea struggling early in games, and if their opponents converts their chances in that earlier minutes, it’s will destroy their confidence to fight back and might end in a defeat. Now they have series of injuries and it will affect the selection of the manager. I don’t know how Chelsea is going to fare in their next 3 games because they’ll face Manchester city and Newcastle United after this Arsenal game.
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November 03, 2022, 04:50:36 AM
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If Lisandro Martinez is too short how will you all refer to Carlos puyol during his days at Barcelona? And why is so much attention drawn to Lisandro Martinez than Maguire who keeps pointing hands for people to do defending job's for them. Who noticed Dalot couldn't join attacking because he was busy protecting and doing Maguire's job, who else?
Ten Hag was eve part of them supporting him, Maguire is not a good player for united,he also delays the forward passes of the ball.
Linsadro deserves better he doesn't pay attention to what people says that is the most important aspect
Lisandro Martinez real position is left back but during this season Ten Hag has attempts to placed him as centre back this probably because Manchester United don't have any good players who playing consistent especially Maguire that if Ten Hag always be utilized this player i think it's very danger because Maguire was always playing poor for each matches and defensive line is one of Ten Hag concern this season because seems he hasn't satisfied with all of defender players and it proven for each matches the lineup always be different excluded Diogo Dalot who regularly playing as right back and in my opinion Martinez during play as centre back is not quite bad even he has several times playing well although he is short player but his good for aerial combat

So far I will say Varane, Shaw Dalot and Martinez are United best defender's this season they have been consistent from the start, they have evolved and grew in confidence from one match to another match. I agree with you as he should use these other players mentioned regularly while rotation is going on since there will be too many games to play. David also scared when Maguire is there in the squad.

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November 03, 2022, 06:04:30 AM
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If Lisandro Martinez is too short how will you all refer to Carlos puyol during his days at Barcelona? And why is so much attention drawn to Lisandro Martinez than Maguire who keeps pointing hands for people to do defending job's for them. Who noticed Dalot couldn't join attacking because he was busy protecting and doing Maguire's job, who else?
Ten Hag was eve part of them supporting him, Maguire is not a good player for united,he also delays the forward passes of the ball.
Linsadro deserves better he doesn't pay attention to what people says that is the most important aspect
Lisandro Martinez's height is about 1.75 m. Carlos Puyol's height is about 1.78 m.
Because Lisandro Martinez is still 24 years old, he can be taller than Carlos Puyol. I think he can be around 1.8 m.

Anyway, not very high isn't a problem to be a Centre Defender as long as the player is strong enough. There were many short CB in the past but they were popular because they were strong enough to deal with any players. So, we must appreciate Martinez, he has done a great job for Man United.

yes that's right, It's hard to find a CB who is aggressive and great with the ball at his feet. He reminds us a lot of things from Cannvaro and Puyol, height is just a number. If you win the ability, you will win the ball. Btw it is too early to judge, he is still 24 years old and still a long way from reaching his true potential, hopefully he will show more of this at a higher stage in his career.
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November 03, 2022, 06:38:26 AM
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I know that it is a quite big risk at the same time. Because Arsenal lost their first big away game to Manchester United before. Maybe they might have a hard time against Chelsea in Stamford Bridge as well. It depends on how good game plan Potter will have against them. His choices against Brighton weren't right at all. If he does the same then Arsenal can turn this into their advantage.
The odds represent how hard to predict this match, arsenal may be at the top of EPL but it has very bad history when arsenal faces the big team. Chelsea have lost against brighton. I hope that potter will not try to create another rotation that will be making lots of mistakes from its players. Arsenal is also aiming for full points caused by once arsenal lose this match and city will be taking the first place easily. It's caused by city will face easy opponent like full ham.
I hope that chelsea can give the best form against arsenal and potter shall stop do another rotation again and again. it gives very big impact to the performance from the club. Just use the rotation that makes players feel confidence

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November 03, 2022, 06:50:52 AM
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The odds represent how hard to predict this match, arsenal may be at the top of EPL but it has very bad history when arsenal faces the big team.
Let us see their previous last 5 head to head, excluding the last two previous international club friendlies played between the two clubs

England Premier League 21/22
Apr 20
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2021
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England Premier League 20/21
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Arsenal
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2020
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Chelsea
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England FA Cup 19/20
2020
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Arsenal
Chelsea
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There was a time in history when Arsenal was finding it difficult to win Chelsea, I accept, but not in recently previous seasons. Arsenal is better now, but this is an away match for the club, it makes it more unpredictable and the reason Arsenal odd could go up, but likely to be the winner, or to be a draw.

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November 03, 2022, 07:30:55 AM
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Arsenal are favorites in this match because their performance was more impressive than Chelsea this is an undeniable fact
But the prediction is based on data and match history and don't forget in the Premier League there are often surprises
Like Chelsea and Liverpool were beaten last week.
right now the odds are quite interesting as it is 2.65 for Chelsea and 2.70 for Arsenal and of course this is something worth betting on.
Regardless of how their previous H2H was actually I don't want to see that because this season they are 2 quite different clubs compared to the previous season but I am currently reflecting on their performance a few games earlier this season.
You're right, we can't compare Head to Head last season because at the moment Arsenal are 100% different I mean by performance
I also just checked the betting market today it seems the bookies predict the two teams will draw , do you agree with the bookies?
Also pay attention to both teams to score bets odss 1.69 of course this is more interesting right?

Arsenal will be far behind when compared to Chelsea head-to-head. But this season the scenario is completely different. Arsenal is a very strong team this season. However, Chelsea's squad is not weak. However, Arsenal is consistently able to perform well. On the other hand, Chelsea's situation is not very good. In the last match, Chelsea lost against Brighton. And in the previous two matches, they have drawn. So I don't think Chelsea will win against Arsenal. The match would be a draw with Arsenal earning full points. I will refrain from betting on this match.

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November 03, 2022, 07:41:53 AM
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You're right, we can't compare Head to Head last season because at the moment Arsenal are 100% different I mean by performance
I also just checked the betting market today it seems the bookies predict the two teams will draw , do you agree with the bookies?
Also pay attention to both teams to score bets odss 1.69 of course this is more interesting right?

Arsenal will be far behind when compared to Chelsea head-to-head. But this season the scenario is completely different. Arsenal is a very strong team this season. However, Chelsea's squad is not weak. However, Arsenal is consistently able to perform well. On the other hand, Chelsea's situation is not very good. In the last match, Chelsea lost against Brighton. And in the previous two matches, they have drawn. So I don't think Chelsea will win against Arsenal. The match would be a draw with Arsenal earning full points. I will refrain from betting on this match.
Arsenal appearance is much better than last season, Arsenal appear consistent this season and managed to occupy the first position of the standings. Arsenal's presence at Stamford bridge makes Chelsea have to work hard to get points, featuring Chelsea who are still up and down giving Arsenal the advantage.
Arsenal who want to maintain their position will try to embarrass Chelsea in front of their supporters, it is not impossible for Arsenal to win this match, the negative results achieved by Chelsea last week made Arsenal players more eager to give their best performance. Refraining from betting is very precise, it is very difficult to predict the final result in this match.

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November 03, 2022, 08:34:33 AM
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Arsenal will be far behind when compared to Chelsea head-to-head. But this season the scenario is completely different. Arsenal is a very strong team this season. However, Chelsea's squad is not weak. However, Arsenal is consistently able to perform well. On the other hand, Chelsea's situation is not very good. In the last match, Chelsea lost against Brighton. And in the previous two matches, they have drawn. So I don't think Chelsea will win against Arsenal. The match would be a draw with Arsenal earning full points. I will refrain from betting on this match.

Arsenal have the last two wins based on H2H these two teams. in the premier league, Arsenal were able to beat Chelasea 2-4, in the Florida Cup Arsenal overthrew Chelsea with a landslide score of 4-0. if we refer to this result, Asenal have a bigger mentality to win the match between these two teams.

Next week, Chelsea will host Arsenal at Stamford Bridge, Chelsea's headquarters. after playing the Champions League match, Chelsea managed to top the group with very satisfying results. with the result, should be a big motivation for Graham Potter's men to continue their winning streak in the premier league. moreover they play at their own headquarters, as the home team.

However, it seems that I am optimistic that Arsenal will dominate the game later by getting full points. Arteta's men, will continue their positive trend in the premier league as group leaders.

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November 03, 2022, 08:58:16 AM
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 Chelsea going head to head with the Gunners is going to be a cracker since nobody can really tell the score line. Chelsea are not doing that bad but against a side that's having this hunger to prove that they can be title contenders, and Chelsea continues with the way they played against Brighton, I doubt they can beat Arsenal with those ridiculous errors coming from the back line.

 Also the defense of Chelsea isn't strong to hold the likes of Gabriel Jesus, Martinelli and Saka(that's if he'll start because of the little injury which he has recovered from). And the defense line of Chelsea is really missing players like Reece James and Chilwell..IMO, the percentage of getting a win for Chelsea is 45%.y

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Chelsea going head to head with the Gunners is going to be a cracker since nobody can really tell the score line. Chelsea are not doing that bad but against a side that's having this hunger to prove that they can be title contenders, and Chelsea continues with the way they played against Brighton, I doubt they can beat Arsenal with those ridiculous errors coming from the back line.

 Also the defense of Chelsea isn't strong to hold the likes of Gabriel Jesus, Martinelli and Saka(that's if he'll start because of the little injury which he has recovered from). And the defense line of Chelsea is really missing players like Reece James and Chilwell..IMO, the percentage of getting a win for Chelsea is 45%.y
The balance hasn't been created completely since Chelsea were managed by a new coach, that's what I saw from their defeat to Brighton. We can't beat Chelsea's recent results. because in the previous match they worked very well before finally they had to accept defeat. Arsenal are of course a very strong opponent, they don't need to target a win because a draw alone is enough for them.

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Chelsea going head to head with the Gunners is going to be a cracker since nobody can really tell the score line. Chelsea are not doing that bad but against a side that's having this hunger to prove that they can be title contenders, and Chelsea continues with the way they played against Brighton, I doubt they can beat Arsenal with those ridiculous errors coming from the back line.

 Also the defense of Chelsea isn't strong to hold the likes of Gabriel Jesus, Martinelli and Saka(that's if he'll start because of the little injury which he has recovered from). And the defense line of Chelsea is really missing players like Reece James and Chilwell..IMO, the percentage of getting a win for Chelsea is 45%.y
Chelsea will play at home and Arsenal have a poor record when they travel to Chelsea. but of course it can not be a reference because this season the two teams appear with different strengths.

Arsenal are much stronger and more consistent at the moment and that is in contrast to Chelsea who have not been able to be consistent until now, especially after they changed coaches a few weeks after the start of the season making their consistency even worse.

on paper in terms of quality Arsenal will be favorites in this match although anything is still possible but I don't think Chelsea will be able to win this game, win for Arsenal or will end in a draw, that's my prediction.
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Arsenal appearance is much better than last season, Arsenal appear consistent this season and managed to occupy the first position of the standings. Arsenal's presence at Stamford bridge makes Chelsea have to work hard to get points, featuring Chelsea who are still up and down giving Arsenal the advantage.
Arsenal who want to maintain their position will try to embarrass Chelsea in front of their supporters, it is not impossible for Arsenal to win this match, the negative results achieved by Chelsea last week made Arsenal players more eager to give their best performance. Refraining from betting is very precise, it is very difficult to predict the final result in this match.

Although Arsenal's performances this season have been very strong, Chelsea are very determined to hold back their pace. This weekend's London derby is really very exciting, considering that these two teams both need full points. Chelsea is still a little limp when facing this match, considering that their mainstay player is still injured.

The defeat to Brighton last week should be a valuable lesson for Potter in determining his squad. Facing the swift attack of the Gunners, Potter must avoid using a three-back scheme. Thiago Silva and Koulibaly must be fielded together. I'm sure Chelsea will be able to knock out Arsenal at Stanford Bridge if Potter isn't careless in setting the scheme.

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November 03, 2022, 09:54:42 AM
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Although Arsenal's performances this season have been very strong, Chelsea are very determined to hold back their pace. This weekend's London derby is really very exciting, considering that these two teams both need full points.

Chelsea is still a little limp when facing this match, considering that their mainstay player is still injured. The defeat to Brighton last week should be a valuable lesson for Potter in determining his squad.

Facing the swift attack of the Gunners, Potter must avoid using a three-back scheme. Thiago Silva and Koulibaly must be fielded together.

I'm sure Chelsea will be able to knock out Arsenal at Stanford Bridge if Potter isn't careless in setting the scheme.
Match titled derby in the English league always presents a fierce and tight match and that's why derby matches are often very difficult to predict, Arsenal are currently still in a positive trend and of course are ready to face chelsea which is currently inconsistent, but I hope arsenal does not underestimate chelsea because after all chelsea often surprises when playing at home, before facing chelsea, we will play against zurich in the european league and the certainty of qualifying should make arteta able to field a substitute later  in europa league and save the main players to face an important match against chelsea in league.

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November 03, 2022, 10:51:21 AM
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Arsenal appearance is much better than last season, Arsenal appear consistent this season and managed to occupy the first position of the standings. Arsenal's presence at Stamford bridge makes Chelsea have to work hard to get points, featuring Chelsea who are still up and down giving Arsenal the advantage.
Arsenal who want to maintain their position will try to embarrass Chelsea in front of their supporters, it is not impossible for Arsenal to win this match, the negative results achieved by Chelsea last week made Arsenal players more eager to give their best performance. Refraining from betting is very precise, it is very difficult to predict the final result in this match.

Lol. Arsenal didn't manage or struggled to occupy the first position in the standings,  the truth is that Arsenal is good in performance,  their winning is not by luck. When a team performances is weak and they end up winning then you can say they managed to win. From the results of Arsenal game and their performance it is 80% certain arsenal can win Chelsea. I'm not saying it is impossible for Chelsea to win arsenal,  it can happen just like the game arsenal played against Manchester United. Arsenal performance is still better than that of Chelsea and they have more chances of winning Chelsea.

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November 03, 2022, 10:52:42 AM
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I saw a big change happening at Manchester United, especially in the player Lisandro Martinez, the arrival of this player seemed to show again the quality of Manchester United's defense. This one player is not only strong in blocking the ball in the penalty box area, but also tough when winning duels in the air. This season the Manchester United players have almost completely developed from before, although Harry Maguire has not been able to show promising quality, but in the match against West Ham United he is getting better, despite several defeats and losing concentration.
The arrival of Martinez in the Manchester United squad this season has indeed brought a new color to the game. His duet with Varane is very promising even though they still have gaps for opponents to take advantage of. But it was better than our disorganized form last season, with even David de Gea frustrated by their defender's poor performance.
At the beginning of Martinez's arrival, many questioned why he had to be among the many players, yes, those doubts were because many saw Martinez's body posture which was considered not ideal to be a central defender. But now he has been able to prove that Manchester United was not wrong to sign him.

Lisandro Martinez is a good defender and I think sometimes he is not given enough credit for his performance.
 
A reason for that might be because his performance is not very flashy or very different from the Orthodox defense. He likes to link up with the other players on the team and maximize the possibility of keeping things under control.

I have to say something. If being physically perfect was the way to be a better player Lionel Messi wouldn't have been able to be even a good player. The way Martinez has played it was impressive. Yes, I also agree that Manchester United did not make a mistake by signing him

He can prove that his posture does not make him a bad defender because in terms of his actual posture he is still quite small for the size of a defender.
On the other hand, in every game he always makes a good impression in my opinion and this clearly makes Manchester United quite benefited because his presence is one of the good things to fill problems in defense.

Lisandro Martinez is Erik ten Hag's favorite for defense since his arrival from Ajax some time ago
Despite his small stature, his aggressiveness on the field is unquestionable, as seen from a total of 12 Premier League matches, Martinez get at least 3 yellow cards followed by 2 yellow cards in European leagues.
He's aggressive enough to stop enemy attacks, that's something defenders should have

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November 03, 2022, 11:34:47 AM
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The balance hasn't been created completely since Chelsea were managed by a new coach, that's what I saw from their defeat to Brighton. We can't beat Chelsea's recent results. because in the previous match they worked very well before finally they had to accept defeat. Arsenal are of course a very strong opponent, they don't need to target a win because a draw alone is enough for them.
A draw is good for Chelsea against Arsenal, but it will not be enough for Chelsea who are looking for a better position in the table, because now Chelsea are outside the top five standings and need to get more wins to improve their position. Newcastle and Tottenham Hotspur have the opportunity to drop positions if they do not win in the next match, because Manchester United's points are not so far away from the two teams who are now in fifth place in the standings.

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November 03, 2022, 11:41:25 AM
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I saw a big change happening at Manchester United, especially in the player Lisandro Martinez, the arrival of this player seemed to show again the quality of Manchester United's defense. This one player is not only strong in blocking the ball in the penalty box area, but also tough when winning duels in the air. This season the Manchester United players have almost completely developed from before, although Harry Maguire has not been able to show promising quality, but in the match against West Ham United he is getting better, despite several defeats and losing concentration.
The arrival of Martinez in the Manchester United squad this season has indeed brought a new color to the game. His duet with Varane is very promising even though they still have gaps for opponents to take advantage of. But it was better than our disorganized form last season, with even David de Gea frustrated by their defender's poor performance.
At the beginning of Martinez's arrival, many questioned why he had to be among the many players, yes, those doubts were because many saw Martinez's body posture which was considered not ideal to be a central defender. But now he has been able to prove that Manchester United was not wrong to sign him.

Lisandro Martinez is a good defender and I think sometimes he is not given enough credit for his performance.
 
A reason for that might be because his performance is not very flashy or very different from the Orthodox defense. He likes to link up with the other players on the team and maximize the possibility of keeping things under control.

I have to say something. If being physically perfect was the way to be a better player Lionel Messi wouldn't have been able to be even a good player. The way Martinez has played it was impressive. Yes, I also agree that Manchester United did not make a mistake by signing him

He can prove that his posture does not make him a bad defender because in terms of his actual posture he is still quite small for the size of a defender.
On the other hand, in every game he always makes a good impression in my opinion and this clearly makes Manchester United quite benefited because his presence is one of the good things to fill problems in defense.
Lisandro Martinez is Erik ten Hag's favorite for defense since his arrival from Ajax some time ago
Despite his small stature, his aggressiveness on the field is unquestionable, as seen from a total of 12 Premier League matches, Martinez get at least 3 yellow cards followed by 2 yellow cards in European leagues.
He's aggressive enough to stop enemy attacks, that's something defenders should have

The single factor making Manchester United the favorite to win the league this year is their defense. Manchester United  the league's best team defensively. I'm at a loss for words when it comes to describing Martinez. His addition to the team has boosted confidence. He and Varane make an amazing team. Manchester United's defensive line has been lacking this for a long time. Another Vidic, this one diminutive but powerful. I'm thrilled for him and I hope he keeps performing well.
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November 03, 2022, 12:19:20 PM
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The balance hasn't been created completely since Chelsea were managed by a new coach, that's what I saw from their defeat to Brighton. We can't beat Chelsea's recent results. because in the previous match they worked very well before finally they had to accept defeat. Arsenal are of course a very strong opponent, they don't need to target a win because a draw alone is enough for them.
A draw is good for Chelsea against Arsenal, but it will not be enough for Chelsea who are looking for a better position in the table, because now Chelsea are outside the top five standings and need to get more wins to improve their position. Newcastle and Tottenham Hotspur have the opportunity to drop positions if they do not win in the next match, because Manchester United's points are not so far away from the two teams who are now in fifth place in the standings.
Yes, I think realistically with the difference in performance they are showing at the moment. I wouldn't say Chelsea are better than Arsenal right now so a draw would have been enough for them considering they are currently recovering from their inconsistent form. If it is said to win is a very good result, of course 3 points is the result that every team wants in their match, but they also have to be aware of their abilities.

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