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Question: Who will be the champion in 2024/25 season?
Manchester City - 40 (50%)
Liverpool - 12 (15%)
Arsenal - 22 (27.5%)
Chelsea - 1 (1.3%)
Manchester United - 4 (5%)
Totenham - 0 (0%)
Newcastle - 0 (0%)
Other - 1 (1.3%)
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July 02, 2023, 08:13:38 PM
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Arsenal had failed to maintain their consistency due to injuries and most likely fatigue too as the same players were the ones playing all the time. But I don’t really get what you meant by Arsenal not having a winning mentality. I think they’ve got a winning mentality and that’s why they had been leading the league table for a while.
 

One of the reasons Arsenal failed last season was due to Arteta poor management in the crucial stages; and somehow it passes everyone radar. Arteta as arsenal boss made some changes that disrupted Arsenal game play and kickstarted the poor performances. One is rushing Jesus back from injury, then benching Fit and firing Trossard for the just getting fit Gabriel Jesus; second poor decision was refusing to drop or rest Saka despite heavy and obvious burn out from the right winger. With better squad depth; i hope he improves in that aspects.
I don't think it was Arteta's fault alone because if you put all the blame on Arteta indirectly this also creates a condition where that good start to the season cannot be forgotten either.
Arteta may have had a few things that got Arsenal off their feet but when it comes to one season of form he has been very good and the end of the season was a failure all together and it is unethical to blame only the coach.
The players lost their mentality and lost games in a row and Arteta certainly didn't expect that either because he was so close to the championship initially it was just that the end of the season didn't go well.

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July 02, 2023, 08:34:09 PM
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Arsenal had failed to maintain their consistency due to injuries and most likely fatigue too as the same players were the ones playing all the time. But I don’t really get what you meant by Arsenal not having a winning mentality. I think they’ve got a winning mentality and that’s why they had been leading the league table for a while.
 

One of the reasons Arsenal failed last season was due to Arteta poor management in the crucial stages; and somehow it passes everyone radar. Arteta as arsenal boss made some changes that disrupted Arsenal game play and kickstarted the poor performances. One is rushing Jesus back from injury, then benching Fit and firing Trossard for the just getting fit Gabriel Jesus; second poor decision was refusing to drop or rest Saka despite heavy and obvious burn out from the right winger. With better squad depth; i hope he improves in that aspects.
I will not totally agree with you that Arsenal and Arteta failed. Arsenal finished second in the league which is a fit they last achieved ways back. Arsenal not being able to win the English Premier League does not mean that they failed.
Arsenal is in the Champions league and they played good football last season.

However, I agree with you that Arteta contributed to why Arsenal could not win the league. He kept using the same players for all the matches when there was Trossard, Nketiah, Nelson and the rest of them that would come in for Jesus and Saka in some matches.

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July 02, 2023, 08:44:43 PM
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I will not totally agree with you that Arsenal and Arteta failed. Arsenal finished second in the league which is a fit they last achieved ways back. Arsenal not being able to win the English Premier League does not mean that they failed.
Arsenal is in the Champions league and they played good football last season.

However, I agree with you that Arteta contributed to why Arsenal could not win the league. He kept using the same players for all the matches when there was Trossard, Nketiah, Nelson and the rest of them that would come in for Jesus and Saka in some matches.
Manchester city won the race to win the English premier league title, I figured out that Pep Guardiola knows how to beat his preeminent rival to win the league. Arsenal missed out big time on lifting the English premier league title, although it's caused by relenting efforts. Mikel Arteta didn't failed the club, taking them to the UEFA Champions league after a lengthy period of time. I believed they will bounce back to glory ways, and this time, they will win the significant trophies and sign more big names that will served essential contributions to the growth of the club.



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Mikel Arteta is the driving force behind Arsenal's enhanced a positive outcome; they work collaboratively during games and refrain from giving up. Although an unfortunate occurrence transpired during their peak height, they were hit by injuries and fatigue, which hindered the club's performance. We expect the gunners become proficient next season after suffering difficulties towards the end of the campaign this past season. Mikel Arteta is an expert in the market who is willing to sign talented players for the purpose to strengthen his team's performance.
Arsenal has the potential to win the Premier League title next season if Manchester City is not in a stable form.
I have no hesitation in saying that Manchester City will still be the team that dominates the Premier League next season. Their strength has not diminished, but it is likely to improve even though Manchester City loses Ilkay Gundogan.

Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester United, Liverpool are candidates for the title, so I hope they can really compete with the best Premier League teams in the last 3 seasons next season. Manchester City are still my favorite team so I think I will have them as title winners soon for next season.

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July 02, 2023, 09:04:13 PM
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Arsenal failed to win the Premier League because they could not maintain their consistency. I think the reason is that they don't really have the proper preparation and they don't have a lot of options to rotate players, so fatigue and injury became a big problem for them. Besides that, Arsenal also don't really have a winning mentality, one important thing that their rival (Man City) has.

Arteta certainly wants to make Arsenal even better this season, but I think it won't be easy for Arsenal to become champions because apart from Man City, Liverpool and Man United will also have the same target.

Many times last season Arsenal came from behind to win their games. There were times when they were even two goals down yet they still found a way to win. Arsenal of last season had a winning mentality. They played each game like their lives depends on it till they started dropping points due to injury and fatigue.
If they succeed in getting quality players to add to their squad they would be a powerful force next season.

Only Man City and Liverpool are the threat Arsenal face next season. Arsenal and Newcastle will have a better season than Manchester United.


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July 02, 2023, 09:16:16 PM
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Arsenal failed to win the Premier League because they could not maintain their consistency. I think the reason is that they don't really have the proper preparation and they don't have a lot of options to rotate players, so fatigue and injury became a big problem for them. Besides that, Arsenal also don't really have a winning mentality, one important thing that their rival (Man City) has.

Arteta certainly wants to make Arsenal even better this season, but I think it won't be easy for Arsenal to become champions because apart from Man City, Liverpool and Man United will also have the same target.

Many times last season Arsenal came from behind to win their games. There were times when they were even two goals down yet they still found a way to win. Arsenal of last season had a winning mentality. They played each game like their lives depends on it till they started dropping points due to injury and fatigue.
If they succeed in getting quality players to add to their squad they would be a powerful force next season.

Only Man City and Liverpool are the threat Arsenal face next season. Arsenal and Newcastle will have a better season than Manchester United.



I had a look at most of the games and it wasn't that noticeable how often Arsenal turned around games. It was a couple of times but nothing out of the ordinary. I think it was an average number of games, but if you have a more convincing statistic I would like to get a ling and have a look.

Arsenal has played a great season and there issue wasn't in the beginning or the middle of the season when they struggled for a few games but got back into shape immediately. There main problem was towards the end of the season when the mental strength that they have shown in so many games out of a sudden was gone. They didn't score at the right time anymore and they couldn't convert their chances with the same efficiency anymore. Something was different and Manchester City knew how to exploit that weakness. But I am looking forward to the new Arsenal this season as I think they can again create some exciting action at the top of the table.

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July 02, 2023, 09:25:16 PM
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For sure, I'm pretty sure Arsenal will be a strong competitor in the 2023/2024 season. at least, for the League competition. because for the Champions League competition, Arsenal really need a mentality that has been formed solidly. but supposedly with the depth of the squad they currently have, Arsenal can become a team that is inconvenient for other top teams when they meet in the Champions League. I hope, Harvertz, Rice and Timber, will contribute to the Gunners squad.

I wouldn't say that Arsenal's squad was very strong last season. But the bond between Arsenal's players was strong. The understanding between the players was excellent. And so Arsenal's overall performance was very good. If Arsenal management is able to strengthen their squad next season, then I think they will fight for the title next season as well. Mikel Arteta is very experienced. He will surely try his best next season to keep Arsenal at the top of the points table.
Kai Havertz was a transfer that will strengthen them. It will be very important for new players to adapt to the harmony between Arsenal players. Arsenal are a great team and if they want to be in the title race again next year, they can play well again with the successful management of Arteta. By sticking to the team plan and with the full harmony of new signings, Arsenal can turn into a great team.

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July 02, 2023, 09:29:57 PM
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Arsenal will appear with a different face and will appear to be stronger in the upcoming 2023/2024 season. Yesterday in the 2022/2023 season, Arsenal looked attractive from the start to almost the end of the Premier League competition. They were able to dominate the top of the standings before being painfully cornered by Manchester City. Arsenal are even more determined to improve. Moreover, this season they will play in the Champions League as well. Arsenal have also targeted a number of players, including Declan Rice, Kai Havertz and Jurrien Timber. They need improvement on a number of fronts so they can compete for the Premier League and Champions League titles.
Arsenal is not the only team that will appear with a different face and be stronger by next season. Other teams like Chelsea are doing the same thing. They have changed close to about 99% of their players plus the coach. We expect to see a different face and formation in the Chelsea team.
Next season will be a tough one for every team in the premier league because every team is signing quality players to their team. I don't think Arsenal will be dominant in the premier league as they did last season. They miss their chance to lift the premier league and I don't think they will have such an opportunity again

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July 02, 2023, 09:30:20 PM
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Yeah, its tough to win the title no matter how strong a club is. What's important is - consistency and right now City are best at it. We need to improve our game a lot to match City's consistency and hopefully will make a great progress in this season.

Manchester City are just too good. Pep is miles ahead of every other coach in the league and what's worst is, he has the deep pockets to back him up. People say any manager will do what Pep is doing at Manchester City, but that's not true.
If not for Man City Klopp would have won at least three league titles with Liverpool. Arsenal would have won the league last season if not for Pep. Pep has hacked the league for real.
Liverpool couldn't win the league with over 90 points.

If Arsenal really want to win the league they have to be better than Man City. Don't drop points. It can be possible to finish the season with just one or two losses and a few draws, that's the amount of consistency that's needed if you want to take that league away from City.

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July 02, 2023, 09:33:29 PM
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Arsenal has the potential to win the Premier League title next season if Manchester City is not in a stable form.
I have no hesitation in saying that Manchester City will still be the team that dominates the Premier League next season. Their strength has not diminished, but it is likely to improve even though Manchester City loses Ilkay Gundogan.

Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester United, Liverpool are candidates for the title, so I hope they can really compete with the best Premier League teams in the last 3 seasons next season. Manchester City are still my favorite team so I think I will have them as title winners soon for next season.
Gundogan is indeed one of the most influential players in the Manchester City team. In the previous few seasons, he has shown a major contribution to the development of the Manchester City team. But Gundongan departure will not dampen our intention to say that Manchester City is a strong candidate to win the trophy next season. Indeed, every season there is always strong competition from other teams in the race for the EPL Trophy.

But seeing the potential that exists in the depths of the current team, I think that Liverpool will be much stronger than Arsenal next season. Liverpool have signed a player who is quite influential for next season. I believe that Kloop will be able to provide strong competition to Manchester City next season.

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July 02, 2023, 09:35:21 PM
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Arsenal will appear with a different face and will appear to be stronger in the upcoming 2023/2024 season. Yesterday in the 2022/2023 season, Arsenal looked attractive from the start to almost the end of the Premier League competition. They were able to dominate the top of the standings before being painfully cornered by Manchester City. Arsenal are even more determined to improve. Moreover, this season they will play in the Champions League as well. Arsenal have also targeted a number of players, including Declan Rice, Kai Havertz and Jurrien Timber. They need improvement on a number of fronts so they can compete for the Premier League and Champions League titles.
Arsenal is not the only team that will appear with a different face and be stronger by next season. Other teams like Chelsea are doing the same thing. They have changed close to about 99% of their players plus the coach. We expect to see a different face and formation in the Chelsea team.
Next season will be a tough one for every team in the premier league because every team is signing quality players to their team. I don't think Arsenal will be dominant in the premier league as they did last season. They miss their chance to lift the premier league. I don't think they will have such an opportunity again
I still feel for Chelsea this is still a big consideration.
As we know, almost all positions start from the Chelsea line-up and the coaches are dominated by players who are undergoing adaptation there.
It would be great if they hit it off right away and work together well between players and coaches but if in the end it doesn't go according to plan then of course this will be like a double-edged sword for them.
Now we just have to see how Potter with his new idea for Chelsea plays out. Their tour begins and the first leg is only a few weeks away so it will be interesting to see what he will do after his massive overhaul for Chelsea.

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July 02, 2023, 09:38:55 PM
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Arsenal has the potential to win the Premier League title next season if Manchester City is not in a stable form.
I have no hesitation in saying that Manchester City will still be the team that dominates the Premier League next season. Their strength has not diminished, but it is likely to improve even though Manchester City loses Ilkay Gundogan.

Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester United, Liverpool are candidates for the title, so I hope they can really compete with the best Premier League teams in the last 3 seasons next season. Manchester City are still my favorite team so I think I will have them as title winners soon for next season.
Of course, Man City is the strongest team in EPL but the chance for Arsenal to win EPL title is always possible. Arsenal also has a strong squad, they become stronger with some new players now. They must evaluate that they have too small number of players in the last season, they are now buying some players to avoid the same mistakes. I think Arsenal is still the candidate of EPL champion in the next season, we don't know what to happen with Man City after they won the treble winners. Some teams are decreasing their performance a lot after achieving a big thing. Man City may drop their performance because they have no big motivation to win the trophies again.

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July 02, 2023, 09:44:30 PM
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Arsenal failed to win the Premier League because they could not maintain their consistency. I think the reason is that they don't really have the proper preparation and they don't have a lot of options to rotate players, so fatigue and injury became a big problem for them. Besides that, Arsenal also don't really have a winning mentality, one important thing that their rival (Man City) has.


The fact that Arsenal did not win the Premier League really does not disappoint many people. At the midpoint of the season, Arsenal's play ceased to be consistent once more, and after the heat, they returned with the goal of taking the title. The victory over Manchester City by Arsenal was unexpected, and Arsenal truly does not have a mindset of winning.

Arsenal had failed to maintain their consistency due to injuries and most likely fatigue too as the same players were the ones playing all the time. But I don’t really get what you meant by Arsenal not having a winning mentality. I think they’ve got a winning mentality and that’s why they had been leading the league table for a while.

They had been winning their games and gathered some good points to be a bit ahead. That’s a winning mentality in my book. They had suffered some set back and lost points which led to Manchester City who was hot at their heels overtake them and finally win the league. Manchester City no doubt  has a winning mentality and is a superb team.

Injuries have a way of tipping the balance of the team because they will undoubtedly affect some crucial positions, which will change the way the team is structured. Additionally, because Arsenal lacked a winning mentality, their performance plummeted when they were expected to accumulate more points, which is when they started losing. I pray Arsenal performs better since they have tested glory they will want to do better next season.

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July 02, 2023, 09:48:06 PM
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Leading the standings from the start of the season to the end of the season does not mean Arsenal have a winning mentality. Arsenal lost a lot of focus when Manchester City began to show consistency in their game, and Arsenal have been under pressure since then.

Manchester City actually managed to maintain consistency while Arsenal lost points in a number of matches, so of course this proves that Arsenal don't actually have a winning mentality when they are under pressure. When Arsenal's concentration is disturbed because of pressure from Manchester City or other teams, then Arsenal don't deserve to win the title, even for next season.

Arsenal started having issues due to injuries and fatigued players after having played matches consistently. Due to these and perhaps other factors, Arsenal became inconsistent and slowly declined from their winning ways and began to lose and draw games.

It sure didn’t help Arsenal seeing Manchester City hot at their heels, gaining points and closing the gap between them. So yes, I would say there was some pressure on Arsenal but what could they possibly do? With injured and fatigued players, there was little they could do as they could only watch as Manchester City came up to them and overtook them and finally won the league.

I still think Arsenal had at some point, a winning mentality in them. Cause they ended up coming in second place doesn’t mean they don’t. Perhaps they also lost focus and became inconsistent in their games.


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July 02, 2023, 09:57:47 PM
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Arsenal will appear with a different face and will appear to be stronger in the upcoming 2023/2024 season. Yesterday in the 2022/2023 season, Arsenal looked attractive from the start to almost the end of the Premier League competition. They were able to dominate the top of the standings before being painfully cornered by Manchester City. Arsenal are even more determined to improve. Moreover, this season they will play in the Champions League as well. Arsenal have also targeted a number of players, including Declan Rice, Kai Havertz and Jurrien Timber. They need improvement on a number of fronts so they can compete for the Premier League and Champions League titles.
Arsenal is not the only team that will appear with a different face and be stronger by next season. Other teams like Chelsea are doing the same thing. They have changed close to about 99% of their players plus the coach. We expect to see a different face and formation in the Chelsea team.
Next season will be a tough one for every team in the premier league because every team is signing quality players to their team. I don't think Arsenal will be dominant in the premier league as they did last season. They miss their chance to lift the premier league and I don't think they will have such an opportunity again
Arsenal for a fact will be a team to beat next season. However, they won't be as a strong force as club's like Manchester City, Liverpool and probably Manchester United.
Last season was Mikel Arteta Arsenal's best chance of winning the English Premier League but failed because of the fact that the club lacks depth and also because Arsenal weren't  competitive enough to challenge till the last day again City

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July 02, 2023, 10:09:28 PM
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Aston Villa was one of the teams that was quite consistent last season where they closed the season in 7th place and were a participant in the European Conference League Qualification for next season. I think they were better than Tottenham last season. But so far I haven't seen any changes happening with them in this transfer window. So far only Youri Tielemans signing has been worked out by Aston villa and he was signed by Aston Villa on a free transfer. I think Unai Emery will try to bring in a few more players to add to their strength next season. One of their targets is Ferran Torres in this season's transfer window. I think if they get Torres most likely their front line will be stronger next season. What's more, Ferran Torres doesn't seem to be included in Xavi plans for next season so Aston villa can take advantage of this opportunity to bring in Torres. Apart from that, Newcastle is also in the team that wants to get Ferran Torres. I think these two teams will compete to get this bomber from Barcelona.

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July 02, 2023, 10:57:35 PM
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Of course, Man City is the strongest team in EPL but the chance for Arsenal to win EPL title is always possible. Arsenal also has a strong squad, they become stronger with some new players now. They must evaluate that they have too small number of players in the last season, they are now buying some players to avoid the same mistakes. I think Arsenal is still the candidate of EPL champion in the next season, we don't know what to happen with Man City after they won the treble winners. Some teams are decreasing their performance a lot after achieving a big thing. Man City may drop their performance because they have no big motivation to win the trophies again.

The chance for arsenal to win EPL is zero at this moment.  Cheesy

I just said based on the reality, has you ever seen arsenal win EPL trophy? I meant look at how arsenal always consistently failed to win it even though the club already tried so hard to win it. I will not believe arsenal will able to win EPL.
I prefer to bet on liverpool or another team instead of arsenal soon. There will be no change and city gonna win EPL again next season. Manchester city has very strong motivation to create a new record by winning treble again for second time in a row.
Why are you saying if city has no motivation at this moment? i guess you are wrong about that, Even city was buying some important players as preparation for upcoming season.
That's enough to call that city has good motivation to keep its position again next season as a winner in three competitions in a row.

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July 02, 2023, 11:12:17 PM
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Arsenal will appear with a different face and will appear to be stronger in the upcoming 2023/2024 season. Yesterday in the 2022/2023 season, Arsenal looked attractive from the start to almost the end of the Premier League competition. They were able to dominate the top of the standings before being painfully cornered by Manchester City. Arsenal are even more determined to improve. Moreover, this season they will play in the Champions League as well. Arsenal have also targeted a number of players, including Declan Rice, Kai Havertz and Jurrien Timber. They need improvement on a number of fronts so they can compete for the Premier League and Champions League titles.
Arsenal is not the only team that will appear with a different face and be stronger by next season. Other teams like Chelsea are doing the same thing. They have changed close to about 99% of their players plus the coach. We expect to see a different face and formation in the Chelsea team.
Next season will be a tough one for every team in the premier league because every team is signing quality players to their team. I don't think Arsenal will be dominant in the premier league as they did last season. They miss their chance to lift the premier league and I don't think they will have such an opportunity again

The thing about Arsenal for the next season is they will keep working with Arteta while he is more experienced now, I think even the last season Arsenal had a good performance and the only reason they lost the title to Manchester City was because of the Guardiola and because he is an experienced coach unlike Arteta, in the other hand Arsenal doesn't have the superstar like Manchester City and if they get some better players they will have a good chance to show the stronger face of their team in the next season.

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July 02, 2023, 11:37:21 PM
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For now Kovacic is the only transfer made by Manchester City this summer. However they have been working on completing a way bigger deal for a long time. They are after Gvardiol as you know and their latest offer was really close to the amount Leipzig wanted for him. I still don't see any update on these negotiations but I assume Manchester City wouldn't stop until securing the deal.

Guardiola has been eager to see him in his team for a long time. This is going to be a really serious improvement in their defense and they will be even more challenging to be stopped. Maybe Gvardiol is a very young player for a defender but he is already impressive with his defending skills.

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July 02, 2023, 11:39:35 PM
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The chance for arsenal to win EPL is zero at this moment.  Cheesy

I just said based on the reality, has you ever seen arsenal win EPL trophy? I meant look at how arsenal always consistently failed to win it even though the club already tried so hard to win it. I will not believe arsenal will able to win EPL.
I prefer to bet on liverpool or another team instead of arsenal soon. There will be no change and city gonna win EPL again next season. Manchester city has very strong motivation to create a new record by winning treble again for second time in a row.
Why are you saying if city has no motivation at this moment? i guess you are wrong about that, Even city was buying some important players as preparation for upcoming season.
That's enough to call that city has good motivation to keep its position again next season as a winner in three competitions in a row.

Perhaps, it’s still too early to conclude Arsenal having a zero percent chance of winning the Premier League title next season. Don’t you think? Besides, if Arsenal has never won the EPL trophy before, that doesn’t mean they could not win it someday. I think all clubs playing in the league and for the title, stand a chance of winning the title even if the chances of some are much higher than others.

Arsenal was a strong contender last season and would only learn from the mistakes made in the last season and make sure not to repeat such mistakes. I think that makes them a stronger opponent to watch out for next season.
I think it may very well be a hard task for Arsenal to win the EPL trophy cause there are equally strong and perhaps stronger opponents vying for the trophy as well. It won’t be a walk in the park, that’s for sure.

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