[UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Merge Mine w/BTC! - Update NOW to qt 0.11.5

[IMZ]

Clear. Thank you. It seems a well-structured model.

[cragv]

(I'm not around much at the moment but will soon be back again more regularly. Also, I pledged 5 UNO but my pledge is listed as 10.)

Can I have some comments at this point?

A.   Shall I proceed to engage Daniel for the translation and continue the search for a marketer?
B.   Shall I leave Daniel in peace and seek out someone who will take the whole job a-z?
C.   Shall we cancel the whole effort and save our UNO?

Please vote for Plan A, B or C over the next 24 hours. Everyone gets one vote.

I know you've said your ideal time-frame is relatively tight (~30 days) but I'd expect lower autonomy and frequent prompting may be required of someone who has a day job already and significantly, isn't emotionally engaged with this 'side project' (his assumed perspective). 6 months ago he sounded quite enthusiastic on upwork.com, but with a full-time job now, this vigor may have understandably dulled considerably.

Bottom line, Daniel's lack of engagement with the greater idea of what we're doing leaves me wondering whether it'd get done in a reasonable time and what the quality would be.

Thus, maybe an hybrid of B and A could work: suspend negotiations with Daniel for 2 weeks (or however long) whilst another party is sought (though I don't know where or how this might happen, I don't have the necessary network personally). If no-one else more qualified and/or enthusiastic is found by the deadline, proceed with 'A' as proposed. This may not be realistic and so in lieu of finding anyone else, my vote is for 'A' (but even so, it's only just 'A' over 'B').

Well done organising this and thank you for your efforts, Gekko.

[Gekko463]

(I'm not around much at the moment but will soon be back again more regularly. Also, I pledged 5 UNO but my pledge is listed as 10.)

Can I have some comments at this point?

A.   Shall I proceed to engage Daniel for the translation and continue the search for a marketer?
B.   Shall I leave Daniel in peace and seek out someone who will take the whole job a-z?
C.   Shall we cancel the whole effort and save our UNO?

Please vote for Plan A, B or C over the next 24 hours. Everyone gets one vote.

I know you've said your ideal time-frame is relatively tight (~30 days) but I'd expect lower autonomy and frequent prompting may be required of someone who has a day job already and significantly, isn't emotionally engaged with this 'side project' (his assumed perspective). 6 months ago he sounded quite enthusiastic on upwork.com, but with a full-time job now, this vigor may have understandably dulled considerably.

Bottom line, Daniel's lack of engagement with the greater idea of what we're doing leaves me wondering whether it'd get done in a reasonable time and what the quality would be.

Thus, maybe an hybrid of B and A could work: suspend negotiations with Daniel for 2 weeks (or however long) whilst another party is sought (though I don't know where or how this might happen, I don't have the necessary network personally). If no-one else more qualified and/or enthusiastic is found by the deadline, proceed with 'A' as proposed. This may not be realistic and so in lieu of finding anyone else, my vote is for 'A' (but even so, it's only just 'A' over 'B').

Well done organising this and thank you for your efforts, Gekko.

You have expressed exactly what I am feeling.  I have 3 votes and was thinking of splitting 2 for A and 1 for B.

We could add D to the candidates:

A.   Shall I proceed to engage Daniel for the translation and continue the search for a marketer?
B.   Shall I leave Daniel in peace and seek out someone who will take the whole job a-z?
C.   Shall we cancel the whole effort and save our UNO?
D.    Suspend negotiations with Daniel for 2 weeks whilst another party is sought actively by Gekko (who is wide open for the community to help find someone). If no-one else more qualified and/or enthusiastic is found by the deadline, proceed with 'A' as proposed.

However, if option D wins out, and the result is we can't find anyone---that means we are buying a translation that Chinese eyes may never see but by chance.  So pretty much certainty of loss.  If we want to eliminate certainty of loss from any equation, we must decide from the first 3 now.

A better solution in my eyes would be to decide this now, by allowing anyone to split their vote.  If you have 1 vote and you are thinking 70% A and 30% B or whatever, tell me.  I will split your vote that way.  I am pretty sure my Excel spreadsheet won't burst into flames.

But believe me, I feel exactly the same way you do.  But I think we need to advance or retreat rather than sit still for two weeks.

Thoughts?

[cragv]

Decisive action is prudent for effective progression in this project, I agree. You've summarised things well here!

Talking this through helped clarify the decision for me and I've shifted my position a little; I'm now leaning toward B. My thinking is that we're only going to do this stage of the work once and if we have a sub-par outcome we're unlikely to make a second run at it. Better to find someone who is keen and ideally, a stakeholder of UNO already before encountering this project.

Does this ideal candidate exist? I kinda doubt it, but it is at least possible, hence my hybrid suggestion. If this was a company and I was the decision maker, I'd have reservations proceeding with A but if no-one else was available and the project had to be done now, Daniel would get the job.

Put me down as B (55%) and A (45%). I hope there's someone out there who can do this and wants to, but if not, Plan A is the default, I guess! If it doesn't have to be done immediately and we can take our time to find the right candidate (sooner is better than later though), then I'm a solid B. Cheers.

[siameze]

Am I to understand that it is now safe for a Mac fanboy non-techie like myself to download this new Mac wallet?  I have an uncomfortable amount of UNO sitting on Cryptsy (>1 ton).

Jeezus Gekko, opsec. No technical expertise required to make paper wallets to store your funds.

[Gekko463]

Am I to understand that it is now safe for a Mac fanboy non-techie like myself to download this new Mac wallet? I have an uncomfortable amount of UNO sitting on Cryptsy (>1 ton).

Jeezus Gekko, opsec. No technical expertise required to make paper wallets to store your funds.

I bought that ton this past week during all of the technical drama.  What good would sending it to a 9.5 wallet do me?

I have over two tons now.  Because I believe in the China project 10 more BTC worth than I did before the China project.  This is going to be huge if we can get it right.

I am demonstrating my confidence, that others might follow my lead on the project and the buying.

I am as long as I can be right now.

Remember when you all met me a few months ago and had just shorted the bubble?

Now I am swung 180 degrees long.  I am balls deep in UNO.  If you are thinking about going longer yourself, do it before we crack China.  I will do my best to make it happen.  You can be shit sure of that.  Balls deep in UNO.  No other alts.  One BTC left for Hail Mary dips.  Cash on the side for more as the project progresses.

I am invested.

[siameze]

Am I to understand that it is now safe for a Mac fanboy non-techie like myself to download this new Mac wallet?  I have an uncomfortable amount of UNO sitting on Cryptsy (>1 ton).

Jeezus Gekko, opsec. No technical expertise required to make paper wallets to store your funds.

I bought that ton this past week during all of the technical drama.  What good would sending it to a 9.5 wallet do me.

I have over two tons now.

An UNO address generated, even offline, is valid across wallet version.

[siameze]

Hopefully we dont hire these guys to translate UNO pages: http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/american-english/parmesan-cheese?q=Parmesan+%28cheese%29/

[Gekko463]

Am I to understand that it is now safe for a Mac fanboy non-techie like myself to download this new Mac wallet?  I have an uncomfortable amount of UNO sitting on Cryptsy (>1 ton).

Jeezus Gekko, opsec. No technical expertise required to make paper wallets to store your funds.

I bought that ton this past week during all of the technical drama.  What good would sending it to a 9.5 wallet do me.

I have over two tons now.

An UNO address generated, even offline, is valid across wallet version.

I don't know these things mate.  I am a simple user, not a coder.  Everything you guys do is a mystery and blessing to guys like me.  I understand 12% of it.

Somebody else brought this up yesterday--my Mom could not deal with this.

We need to work on that.  I am conversationally incompetent but talk a good game as far as how this stuff works goes.  But I do know pretty much how a credit card works.

[siameze]

Step 1. Go to https://walletgenerator.net/?currency=Unobtanium. If you really want to be top-notch you can download the page and do this offline

Step 2. Create lots of entropy and wait for wallet to generate.

Step 3. Copy he generated wallet to the medium of your choosing, and enjoy worry-free storage of your funds despite exchange snafus and tech issues on wallets.

[Gekko463]

Step 1. Go to https://walletgenerator.net/?currency=Unobtanium. If you really want to be top-notch you can download the page and do this offline

Step 2. Create lots of entropy and wait for wallet to generate.

Step 3. Copy he generated wallet to the medium of your choosing, and enjoy worry-free storage of your funds despite exchange snafus and tech issues on wallets.

Thanks

[siameze]

Step 1. Go to https://walletgenerator.net/?currency=Unobtanium. If you really want to be top-notch you can download the page and do this offline

Step 2. Create lots of entropy and wait for wallet to generate.

Step 3. Copy he generated wallet to the medium of your choosing, and enjoy worry-free storage of your funds despite exchange snafus and tech issues on wallets.

Thanks

No problem. You can be fancy and try oclvanitygen too, but that is the quick and easy way.

[BitcoinCharlie]

My votes are to move ahead with the translation services as planned.

That said, but a more long shot idea, does anyone live near a University that has a computer science department? There might be some Chinese students studying abroad that could have some interest?

[Krypto Superdog]

My votes are to move ahead with the translation services as planned.

That said, but a more long shot idea, does anyone live near a University that has a computer science department? There might be some Chinese students studying abroad that could have some interest?

We should try to get in contact with the MIT bitcoin club

[BitcoinNational]

I vote B. "continue the search for a marketer"
Translating is not a big deal.  And Like a $50 job tops.

Next easy is the SEO, but getting links into chinese websites is a bit of a trick.  But I still think most any slightly skilled SEO web dev armed with the translated KEYWORDS can get "Unobanium" to show up in the search results.  My guess is we Unotards can get our website to show up in the Chinese search engines.  Later maybe professional china based SEO services can be employed.    

From there it is hard and requires:
a) fluent Chinese
b) full faith in UNO
c) knowledge of the Chinese crypto scene
d) a reputation in the Chinese crypto scene
e) determination to get'r done
f) btc38 connections  help

But the first step is just getting our info out there in Chinese.  

[siameze]

Saw this today while trading on cex:

https://support.cex.io/hc/communities/public/questions/202855218-Merge-mine-UNO

[FallingKnife]

Step 1. Go to https://walletgenerator.net/?currency=Unobtanium. If you really want to be top-notch you can download the page and do this offline

Step 2. Create lots of entropy and wait for wallet to generate.

Step 3. Copy he generated wallet to the medium of your choosing, and enjoy worry-free storage of your funds despite exchange snafus and tech issues on wallets.

Walletgenerator.net does a nice job.

Also checkout Cryptapus' paper wallets, https://cryptap.us/uno/paperwallet.html
Cryptapus can do bulk wallets, labels, brain wallets, etc.

[BitcoinCharlie]

Saw this today while trading on cex:

https://support.cex.io/hc/communities/public/questions/202855218-Merge-mine-UNO

Get behind this ladies and gents. Go over and upvote it!

[FallingKnife]

As usual I am a Uno bull, so you guys always know what I'm gonig to say when I comment on Uno's value & price. I'm fairly predictable.

It's heartening to read Gekko's optimism.  Getting Uno in front of China has been an interest of this community for at least a year, so it's exciting to have a lead on that project and to see all the support it has.  The last time we started acting on the China goal was just weeks before the BTer hack, after which the enthusiasm abated.  The idea has a lot more momentum this time, though.  The goal to bring new traders and hodlers into Uno is a very good one.

I look at Uno, and (even more than usual) i see it as undervalued. Although I'm accumulating the mining reward each day at these cheap prices, I would love to see price stable in that .02x level and Uno with a $1m cap. When Uno cracks that $1m level as the new normal, lots of interesting things become possible in terms of investor interest, media interest, legitimacy. People suddenly want to know about this coin they've never heard of.  When people look at Uno, they tend to like Uno. The China effort could help propel Uno up to that level.

[rojan]

The value of having Daniel do the first UNO translation work is that he has experience in crypto.  I'd think this is an advantage.  Subsequent translators can then draw from his work.  There's no need to rush the job.