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[tokeweed]

^  Plus like Igebotz said, Amorim should get rid of these old, underperforming but overpaid players like Maguire, Shaw, maybe even Casemiro but def the overpaid bench warmer Rashford.  And I'm pretty sure we'd see more than 50% of the squad be out if we look more into it.

But we'll see if the United brass will totally support their manager rather than take their side with the players.  The former could get them back in form and always fight for top 4, but the latter will continue the cycle they're at rn.

Manchester United legend Evra is requesting the manger to remove Bruno as the captain and give it back to Maguire to lead the club - this is shocking and sickening at the same time. Maguire should be somewhere playing in a mid-table team or somewhere in Saudi if the club are serious about regaining old days.

Yeah, but sometimes we prolly give those guys the benefit of the doubt because as former players, they prolly see some kind of 'thing' that we football supporters do not see..?  Dunno, yeah I feel like making the same opinion but at the same time I feel like I can't as they've known football more than we'll ever know it.  They played it, they coached it, they've made it their life.

But then again...  Evra is prolly just talking out of his ass too.  Lol.  He prolly should just stfu and enjoy the matches.

[igebotz]

Yeah, but sometimes we prolly give those guys the benefit of the doubt because as former players, they prolly see some kind of 'thing' that we football supporters do not see..?  Dunno, yeah I feel like making the same opinion but at the same time I feel like I can't as they've known football more than we'll ever know it.  They played it, they coached it, they've made it their life.

But then again...  Evra is prolly just talking out of his ass too.  Lol.  He prolly should just stfu and enjoy the matches.

Wearing suit and sitting behind a desk to criticize players on the pitch is easy until you ask them to manage a team. They were good players in the past doesn't make them right or neither do they see everything. Over the years every former Manchester united players wanted Maguire to leave the club, no one backed him- every united former players needs to keep shut and allow Amorim do the job.

[tokeweed]

 every united former players needs to keep shut and allow Amorim do the job.

Well with that really in mind then I totally agree.  But then again what could they really do but talk and annoy the people who watch, support and follow the EPL and football overall.  Amorim will continue to be Amorim for better or worse.  What's important is Amorim gets the support of the Man United brass even if he loses the support from the dressing room.  At this point in the club's history, a manager losing support of the dressing room means that they're in dire need to change some players...

The cycle must be broken.  And pretty sure most of us could agree that it's the only way.

[igebotz]

Well with that really in mind then I totally agree.  But then again what could they really do but talk and annoy the people who watch, support and follow the EPL and football overall.  Amorim will continue to be Amorim for better or worse.  What's important is Amorim gets the support of the Man United brass even if he loses the support from the dressing room.  At this point in the club's history, a manager losing support of the dressing room means that they're in dire need to change some players...

The cycle must be broken.  And pretty sure most of us could agree that it's the only way.

Rashford is already in talks with other clubs, and there may be others who have not yet been announced, but the manager already knows which players he wants. The problem is that Manutd does not know how to offload players, and they have a lot of deadwoods who are still collecting high salaries while doing nothing.

Amorim is a good manager; he has shown that against top clubs this season, which is encouraging.

[JollyGood]

RESULT:

Wolverhampton Wanderers 0-3 Nottingham Forest

With the win Nottingham Forest had yesterday at Wolves, they are up to joint second with Arsenal on 40 points but have an inferior goal difference therefore sit in 3rd place. At this stage of the season it is nothing short of brilliant that they are just six points behind leaders Liverpool. If just a few games go their way they will be sitting at the top of the table as leaders.

[tokeweed]

Well with that really in mind then I totally agree.  But then again what could they really do but talk and annoy the people who watch, support and follow the EPL and football overall.  Amorim will continue to be Amorim for better or worse.  What's important is Amorim gets the support of the Man United brass even if he loses the support from the dressing room.  At this point in the club's history, a manager losing support of the dressing room means that they're in dire need to change some players...

The cycle must be broken.  And pretty sure most of us could agree that it's the only way.

Rashford is already in talks with other clubs, and there may be others who have not yet been announced, but the manager already knows which players he wants. The problem is that Manutd does not know how to offload players, and they have a lot of deadwoods who are still collecting high salaries while doing nothing.

Amorim is a good manager; he has shown that against top clubs this season, which is encouraging.

It will depend on their director of football which should be starting to make calls as early now in advance to make their moves for the summer transfer window.  And they should prolly sell some for the current transfer windows if they can offload a player or two and clear up their weekly wage bill. 

No use for them to chase top 4 now if they're gonna be dropping out of it next season anyway.  So yeah...  Rebuild the club then go for glory later.  And now is prolly a good time to do it as the United fans have gotten used to losing by now.  Lmaooo.

[JollyGood]

The next games are taking place on Tuesday 14th January:

Brentford vs Manchester City
Chelsea vs Bournemouth
West Ham United vs Fulham
Nottingham Forest vs Liverpool

I will make a bold statement here, I will go for Brentford to beat Manchester City and am confident Nottingham Forest will beat Liverpool. This should help Chelsea as they are capable of getting three points at home to Bournemouth.

Also, it is the first Premier League game West Ham United play with their new manager (ex-Brighton and ex-Chelsea manager) Potter. They have a tough home fixture against Fulham.

[igebotz]

It will depend on their director of football which should be starting to make calls as early now in advance to make their moves for the summer transfer window.  And they should prolly sell some for the current transfer windows if they can offload a player or two and clear up their weekly wage bill. 

No use for them to chase top 4 now if they're gonna be dropping out of it next season anyway.  So yeah...  Rebuild the club then go for glory later.  And now is prolly a good time to do it as the United fans have gotten used to losing by now.  Lmaooo.

It's difficult to move out average players who are on a lucrative salaries and are not ready to take Pay cut and you can't force them out.

[tokeweed]

The next games are taking place on Tuesday 14th January:

Brentford vs Manchester City
Chelsea vs Bournemouth
West Ham United vs Fulham
Nottingham Forest vs Liverpool

I will make a bold statement here, I will go for Brentford to beat Manchester City and am confident Nottingham Forest will beat Liverpool. This should help Chelsea as they are capable of getting three points at home to Bournemouth.

Also, it is the first Premier League game West Ham United play with their new manager (ex-Brighton and ex-Chelsea manager) Potter. They have a tough home fixture against Fulham.

It wouldn't surprise me if City loses or the match ends in a draw.  Except for the last couple of home match for Brentford, they've been doing really well.  And there's no shame in losing against Brighton and Arsenal.  So with City not playing consistently well and because this is an away match, yeah I agree.

As for West Ham...  Nice Graham Potter is back.  Chelsea did him dirty, but it was his fault for leaving a pretty good job at Brighton.  Should be a good match.  Fulham's manager is pretty clever.

[JollyGood]

It wouldn't surprise me if City loses or the match ends in a draw.  Except for the last couple of home match for Brentford, they've been doing really well.  And there's no shame in losing against Brighton and Arsenal.  So with City not playing consistently well and because this is an away match, yeah I agree.

Brentford have had some excellent results but their form has been inconsistent. They are mid-table therefore far away from the threat of relegation but their forum is not good because their last five Premier League games is W1 D1 L3. It will not be an easy game even if Manchester City have a W2 D1 L2 record themselves but if Brentford use their home advantage maybe they can at least get a point if not all three.

As for West Ham...  Nice Graham Potter is back.  Chelsea did him dirty, but it was his fault for leaving a pretty good job at Brighton.  Should be a good match.  Fulham's manager is pretty clever.

I thought Potter was doing a great job at Brighton and had he stayed it would have benefitted the club and him. Unfortunately he jumped at the chance to manage Chelsea and was a catastrophic failure. The fans never gave a him a real chance and the Chelsea board ended up sacking him. I hope he rebuilds his career and confidence (and the same for Moyes as he is back at Everton after a 12 year gap after they sacked Dyche).

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

I thought Potter was doing a great job at Brighton and had he stayed it would have benefitted the club and him. Unfortunately he jumped at the chance to manage Chelsea and was a catastrophic failure. The fans never gave a him a real chance and the Chelsea board ended up sacking him.

There are some managers that won't just make it at big clubs, like the do better when they're coaching small teams. I see Potter to be one of those managers. He wasn't really that good at Brighton but the Brighton players made him look like a genius. Didn't the players do well with the new manager without him.so they were the ones carrying the team with their individual talents and not potter. But good for him though with his new journey. I wasn't really a fan of his and glad he got sacked. We're better now although aren't where we're supposed to be.

Brentford vs Manchester City - City win
Chelsea vs Bournemouth - Chelsea win
West Ham United vs Fulham - Draw
Nottingham Forest vs Liverpool - Liverpool win

[tokeweed]

It wouldn't surprise me if City loses or the match ends in a draw.  Except for the last couple of home match for Brentford, they've been doing really well.  And there's no shame in losing against Brighton and Arsenal.  So with City not playing consistently well and because this is an away match, yeah I agree.

Brentford have had some excellent results but their form has been inconsistent. They are mid-table therefore far away from the threat of relegation but their forum is not good because their last five Premier League games is W1 D1 L3. It will not be an easy game even if Manchester City have a W2 D1 L2 record themselves but if Brentford use their home advantage maybe they can at least get a point if not all three.

As for West Ham...  Nice Graham Potter is back.  Chelsea did him dirty, but it was his fault for leaving a pretty good job at Brighton.  Should be a good match.  Fulham's manager is pretty clever.

I thought Potter was doing a great job at Brighton and had he stayed it would have benefitted the club and him. Unfortunately he jumped at the chance to manage Chelsea and was a catastrophic failure. The fans never gave a him a real chance and the Chelsea board ended up sacking him. I hope he rebuilds his career and confidence (and the same for Moyes as he is back at Everton after a 12 year gap after they sacked Dyche).

Again, it wouldn't surprise me if Brentford could get away with a point here.  There's just something about Thomas Frank's tendency about making the match look ugly and hard against better clubs.  It's gonna be a low scoring match and a draw...  So exactly 1 - 1 is what I'm looking at.  Lol.  But it would really surprise me of they get away with all they points here.

As for Potter, it was the club's fault.  But it was also Potter's fault for getting in there at that time in the first place.  He just should've avoided it.

[igebotz]

I thought Potter was doing a great job at Brighton and had he stayed it would have benefitted the club and him. Unfortunately he jumped at the chance to manage Chelsea and was a catastrophic failure. The fans never gave a him a real chance and the Chelsea board ended up sacking him. I hope he rebuilds his career and confidence (and the same for Moyes as he is back at Everton after a 12 year gap after they sacked Dyche).

The size of the club, the pressure was way bigger than him at Chelsea now let's see what he can do with Westham with a big budget than Brighton and lesser pressure than Chelsea. Nice to see Everton back to where he started.

[JollyGood]

There are some managers that won't just make it at big clubs, like the do better when they're coaching small teams. I see Potter to be one of those managers. He wasn't really that good at Brighton but the Brighton players made him look like a genius. Didn't the players do well with the new manager without him.so they were the ones carrying the team with their individual talents and not potter. But good for him though with his new journey. I wasn't really a fan of his and glad he got sacked. We're better now although aren't where we're supposed to be.

It was true he inherited a good bunch of players when he was appointed manager of Brighton but there is no doubt the Chelsea job was too big for Potter and he was struggling to make an impact with the players and the fans. Unfortunately for him, Chelsea were too inconsistent therefore the owners concluded a change had to be made. Maybe he will make it at West Ham United, he deserves the chance to rebuild his managerial career.

As for Potter, it was the club's fault.  But it was also Potter's fault for getting in there at that time in the first place.  He just should've avoided it.

When he was offered the job he definitely wanted it, I suppose any manager from a smaller club would have wanted it but Chelsea were struggling at the time and he should not have taken the job. Had he stayed at Brighton, maybe he would have been a club legend.

The size of the club, the pressure was way bigger than him at Chelsea now let's see what he can do with Westham with a big budget than Brighton and lesser pressure than Chelsea. Nice to see Everton back to where he started.

Given the fact West Ham United are smaller than Chelsea and bigger than Brighton, it just might be what Potter needs to get his career moving again. As for Everton and Moyes, I hope it is going to work out for both the club and manager because they have had too many years of fighting in and out of the relegation zone and Moyes knows the club.

[JollyGood]

RESULTS:

Brentford 2-2 Manchester City
Chelsea 2-2 Bournemouth
West Ham United 3-2 Fulham
Nottingham Forest 1-1 Liverpool

Congratulations to Potter winning his first game as West Ham United manager.

Manchester City were winning 0-2 but Brentford scored two goals to cause more damage to Guardiola and his team.

Nottingham Forest did not cave in from any pressure Liverpool applied, they deserve to be in the top four and currently are in 2nd place (just six points behind leaders Liverpool).

As for Chelsea, they are going to miss out on a top four position if keep dropping points. They have lost two and drawn two of their last four Premier League games.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

RESULTS:

Brentford 2-2 Manchester City
Chelsea 2-2 Bournemouth
West Ham United 3-2 Fulham
Nottingham Forest 1-1 Liverpool

As for Chelsea, they are going to miss out on a top four position if keep dropping points. They have lost two and drawn two of their last four Premier League games.

Was it planned or what, I don't get why most of yesterday games ended in a draw, the Chelsea game was the most annoying for me because I don't understand how we almost lost it after going 1:0 up first at home. I don't know what has come over the boys because they're begining to give me that old vibes that made us to sack Pochettino.

Without that awesome late goal from Reece James, this would had been another lost. We kept saying we aren't in the title race and our words might just be punishing us. What a comeback for Brentford to get a point from Man city after City started the game very well. I kinda feel sad for man city because they would have thought this wins will add to their other good games that they had prior to this game to build up more momentum but Brentford had other plans.

[JollyGood]

Was it planned or what, I don't get why most of yesterday games ended in a draw, the Chelsea game was the most annoying for me because I don't understand how we almost lost it after going 1:0 up first at home. I don't know what has come over the boys because they're begining to give me that old vibes that made us to sack Pochettino.

This must hurt you a lot (because you are a Chelsea fan) being unable to understand how Chelsea have turned to mediocre form after having an almost stunning first half of the season under a new manager. They should have been fighting for first place, instead they are allowing teams to take points off them. With Arsenal dropping points and Manchester City in disarray, this was a perfect opportunity for Chelsea to challenge Liverpool but they are letting the moment pass.

Without that awesome late goal from Reece James, this would had been another lost. We kept saying we aren't in the title race and our words might just be punishing us. What a comeback for Brentford to get a point from Man city after City started the game very well. I kinda feel sad for man city because they would have thought this wins will add to their other good games that they had prior to this game to build up more momentum but Brentford had other plans.

Teams are no longer afraid to face Manchester City, that is a fact and that is the primary reason why so many teams have taken points away from them. I am glad Brentford did not capitulate to Manchester City, it is an example of why the Premier League is the best and most competitive league in the world.

What are your views on Nottingham Forest this season?

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

This must hurt you a lot (because you are a Chelsea fan) being unable to understand how Chelsea have turned to mediocre form after having an almost stunning first half of the season under a new manager. They should have been fighting for first place, instead they are allowing teams to take points off them.

Like seriously, just few weeks ago we were just few points behind Liverpool at second position but as it stands we're in 5th and outside the champions league spot.

As a fan it has to hurt because I thought we could go for the title this season and not just playing for the top four but as it stands, that too isn't a guarantee.

About Nottingham forest, I didn't expect them to be in the position that they're currently. They have outperform themselves and surprised everybody. Last season they finished 17th but now in the top 4, they have done well and all kudos to Nuno Santo, he's doing well with the player but I still think they won't end the season in the top 4, what do you think?

[JollyGood]

Even with strong squads judging by the way Chelsea have lost form and Manchester City no longer struggle to collect some points, it will be difficult for Nottingham Forest to maintain the form with the squad they have but Leicester City did it and won the Premier League in that surprise season therefore it is possible. If they are in a Champions League spot by the time 30 games have been played (and only eight remaining), I think they will do it. The odds are stacked against them but they just surprise us.

About Nottingham forest, I didn't expect them to be in the position that they're currently. They have outperform themselves and surprised everybody. Last season they finished 17th but now in the top 4, they have done well and all kudos to Nuno Santo, he's doing well with the player but I still think they won't end the season in the top 4, what do you think?

[tokeweed]

RESULTS:

Brentford 2-2 Manchester City
Chelsea 2-2 Bournemouth
West Ham United 3-2 Fulham
Nottingham Forest 1-1 Liverpool

Congratulations to Potter winning his first game as West Ham United manager.

Manchester City were winning 0-2 but Brentford scored two goals to cause more damage to Guardiola and his team.

Nottingham Forest did not cave in from any pressure Liverpool applied, they deserve to be in the top four and currently are in 2nd place (just six points behind leaders Liverpool).

As for Chelsea, they are going to miss out on a top four position if keep dropping points. They have lost two and drawn two of their last four Premier League games.

Oof Citeh...  Lol.  Not sure how exactly that City squad looked on the pitch, didn't watch the match, but man...  I feel like they are a deflated club with players that need to get that hunger for winning back.  They've won it all.  There's no point now.  Time to change the core squad with new blood and ready for the next manager in case Guardiola finally decides to call it quits after his contract.

And a couple of good results for Nottingham Forest and for Bournemouth with a point away.  Can't wait for how these clubs will look on April nearing the end of the season.