⚽ English Premier League Season: 2023/2024

[tokeweed]

Yup they really should with them having a better squad than Fulham and with the match being played at Stamford Bridge.  And they have one of the best managers in the current era of footbal available so there's no excuse.  But on the comment that Chelsea just had back to back wins...  They were vs Crystal Palace and Luton.  :/  Not sure if they get the same result in a derby that most likely be taken very seriously by Fulham being the inferior team as they would most likely feel they need to prove something.

Draw no bet is at 3.70, ML at 5.40.  The line is too wide imho.  I wouldn't really trust Chelsea at 1.60 rn.

We struggle to win two consecutive games this season, and we have consistently squandered opportunities to move up the table. We're playing against our biggest West London rivals in an unstable circumstance. Jackson is away at the AFCON, Nkunku isn't totally match fit, and our defence is too slow to compete with Willian's quickness and how quickly Fulham counters.

Both team to score @ 1.70 is a steal. Manchester city @ 1.62 against struggling Newcastle united is another bonus odd.

@JollyGood -: No Chelsea fan is happy with Poch at the moment. He met us at 10th more than 6 months ago and we're still 10th

But is the manager really the problem at this point?  I think by now, the Chelsea brass and the supporters should just go with Poch and accept that tough times are still coming ahead.  I mean nothing changed since I think Sarri?  And the last time the club has seen success was with Conte?  Dunno..  But it has been a long time.

I think if you're playing BTTS, it might be better to bump it up and go for the over 2.5 goals combo too at 2.00.

Anyway, missed the dates and thought the matches were gonna be this weekend.  :/  Looks like no EPL and still no UFC this weekend. 

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[JollyGood]

@JollyGood -: No Chelsea fan is happy with Poch at the moment. He met us at 10th more than 6 months ago and we're still 10th

Pochettino is the best manager Chelsea could have at the moment. Given time he will make them a much better team.

@JollyGood -: No Chelsea fan is happy with Poch at the moment. He met us at 10th more than 6 months ago and we're still 10th

But is the manager really the problem at this point?  I think by now, the Chelsea brass and the supporters should just go with Poch and accept that tough times are still coming ahead.  I mean nothing changed since I think Sarri?  And the last time the club has seen success was with Conte?  Dunno..  But it has been a long time.

Changing the manager would only help when/if there is a need to replace someone who does not have the confidence of the players, such as with what happened with Potter. They will have to at some point retain the manager by having belief in him and sell the players that the manager does not want. It will send a strong message to the team that the owners trust the manager and also that players will be sold if the manager does not want them.

Pochettino will be a success there but he has only been their manager for a short time therefore the really does need time.

[Igebotz]

But is the manager really the problem at this point?  I think by now, the Chelsea brass and the supporters should just go with Poch and accept that tough times are still coming ahead.  I mean nothing changed since I think Sarri?  And the last time the club has seen success was with Conte?  Dunno..  But it has been a long time.

I think if you're playing BTTS, it might be better to bump it up and go for the over 2.5 goals combo too at 2.00.

Anyway, missed the dates and thought the matches were gonna be this weekend.  :/  Looks like no EPL and still no UFC this weekend. 

The last time we had enormous success and dominated the world was before the Russia-Ukraine war, and it was Tuchel who made it all happen; we haven't been the same since he was fired. Touch times don't last, but if the team continues to play as if they don't do anything at the training ground and continues to put on a poor performance week in and week out, there is probably something wrong. If you want the fans to believe in the process, you must ensure that the team is improving even if the results aren't.

I don't recognize my club anymore, we play the shittest football in Europe.

Those games are weekend games, you can book them now..

Pochettino is the best manager Chelsea could have at the moment. Given time he will make them a much better team

We're getting results out of some of the players individually brilliance, you should watch our games and see how terrible we play.

[tokeweed]

@JollyGood -: No Chelsea fan is happy with Poch at the moment. He met us at 10th more than 6 months ago and we're still 10th

But is the manager really the problem at this point?  I think by now, the Chelsea brass and the supporters should just go with Poch and accept that tough times are still coming ahead.  I mean nothing changed since I think Sarri?  And the last time the club has seen success was with Conte?  Dunno..  But it has been a long time.

Changing the manager would only help when/if there is a need to replace someone who does not have the confidence of the players, such as with what happened with Potter. They will have to at some point retain the manager by having belief in him and sell the players that the manager does not want. It will send a strong message to the team that the owners trust the manager and also that players will be sold if the manager does not want them.

Pochettino will be a success there but he has only been their manager for a short time therefore the really does need time.

Poch's success is anything but assured.  Remember, they also got rid of their greatest manager yet in Mourinho.  So that shows that nobody is immune from the inevitable sacking if the team doesn't get the results.

It's just the way football is right now.  It's a bad culture and it's really sad to see that almost no club would be willing to stick with their manager through thick and thin.

[JollyGood]

Nowadays there are few clubs in the Premier League that would stick with their manager through thick and thin. The days of the board being loyal to their manager were over a long time ago.

If Chelsea sack Pochettino there is not a large pool of available managers to choose from therefore it will almost be like they are taking a step back. After they made a mistake hiring Potter they need stability and for that Pochettino is the best option for Chelsea. They are fortunate to have him and he must be given time to manage the team.

Poch's success is anything but assured.  Remember, they also got rid of their greatest manager yet in Mourinho.  So that shows that nobody is immune from the inevitable sacking if the team doesn't get the results.

It's just the way football is right now.  It's a bad culture and it's really sad to see that almost no club would be willing to stick with their manager through thick and thin.

[Igebotz]

Nowadays there are few clubs in the Premier League that would stick with their manager through thick and thin. The days of the board being loyal to their manager were over a long time ago.

If Chelsea sack Pochettino there is not a large pool of available managers to choose from therefore it will almost be like they are taking a step back. After they made a mistake hiring Potter they need stability and for that Pochettino is the best option for Chelsea. They are fortunate to have him and he must be given time to manage the team.

Poch's success is anything but assured.  Remember, they also got rid of their greatest manager yet in Mourinho.  So that shows that nobody is immune from the inevitable sacking if the team doesn't get the results.

It's just the way football is right now.  It's a bad culture and it's really sad to see that almost no club would be willing to stick with their manager through thick and thin.

We can't trust someone who had PSG play the worst football in Europe with Messi, Neymar, and Mbappe on the team; he doesn't have a winning mindset, and he's proven it time and time again. Can you name one player who has benefited from Poch's presence? Just one

[tokeweed]

Poch's success is anything but assured.  Remember, they also got rid of their greatest manager yet in Mourinho.  So that shows that nobody is immune from the inevitable sacking if the team doesn't get the results.

It's just the way football is right now.  It's a bad culture and it's really sad to see that almost no club would be willing to stick with their manager through thick and thin.

Nowadays there are few clubs in the Premier League that would stick with their manager through thick and thin. The days of the board being loyal to their manager were over a long time ago.

If Chelsea sack Pochettino there is not a large pool of available managers to choose from therefore it will almost be like they are taking a step back. After they made a mistake hiring Potter they need stability and for that Pochettino is the best option for Chelsea. They are fortunate to have him and he must be given time to manage the team.

Too few...  And it's so few that it feels like there are none.  Name a club the top flight leagues that have sticked with their manager no matter what in recent years.  I can't think of any.  And if they're out there, there's prolly like just a couple out of 50 clubs. 

And no.  Lol.  Clubs always have a lot of options for 'available managers'.  Why do you think they're quick to give them the sack at a moment's notice once things start going south?  They're considered expendable and easily replaceable.

I'm not saying Poch will def not be a success.  He very may well could be a success.  All I'm saying is it won't be a surprise if he's given the sack after a year or if they still have an empty trophy cabinet.

[JollyGood]

We can't trust someone who had PSG play the worst football in Europe with Messi, Neymar, and Mbappe on the team; he doesn't have a winning mindset, and he's proven it time and time again. Can you name one player who has benefited from Poch's presence? Just one

You only have to look at the way Pochettino transformed the way Tottenham played. I am sure he will benefit the players after he is given time at Chelsea. As for PSG, he could not manage a team properly when the dressing room was dominated by players with large egos such as Messi, Mbappe and Neymar but he will have no problems managing Chelsea.

I'm not saying Poch will def not be a success.  He very may well could be a success.  All I'm saying is it won't be a surprise if he's given the sack after a year or if they still have an empty trophy cabinet.

I agree but I think in the case of Chelsea, their fans have been through a lot of disruption and problems over the past few years therefore they will be patient with Pochettino as they need to start building stability.

[Juggy777]

Nowadays there are few clubs in the Premier League that would stick with their manager through thick and thin. The days of the board being loyal to their manager were over a long time ago.

If Chelsea sack Pochettino there is not a large pool of available managers to choose from therefore it will almost be like they are taking a step back. After they made a mistake hiring Potter they need stability and for that Pochettino is the best option for Chelsea. They are fortunate to have him and he must be given time to manage the team.

@JollyGood Chelsea owner made the mistake of sacking the coach too early when he sacked Tuchel and that’s why he’s keen not to repeat that mistake and therefore Poch is getting lots of time. Furthermore in my personal opinion Poch should stay because there’s no way any new coach can come and transform this Chelsea side because the squad is very big and many are new recruits and it was always going to take a while hence Poch should not be sacked at least for now.

[Igebotz]

We can't trust someone who had PSG play the worst football in Europe with Messi, Neymar, and Mbappe on the team; he doesn't have a winning mindset, and he's proven it time and time again. Can you name one player who has benefited from Poch's presence? Just one

You only have to look at the way Pochettino transformed the way Tottenham played. I am sure he will benefit the players after he is given time at Chelsea. As for PSG, he could not manage a team properly when the dressing room was dominated by players with large egos such as Messi, Mbappe and Neymar but he will have no problems managing Chelsea.

Football management has evolved since he was at Tottenham. Not to mention that when Conte was fired, Tottenham had the opportunity to bring him back but chose other available options (they got a better modern manager).

Before you talk about Poch's successes at Tottenham, keep in mind that he won nothing during the golden Tottenham era and nearly destroyed the team after three brilliant seasons.

Poch is not a bad coach, but he is not the manager for our young project since his player management is terrible.

[JollyGood]

@JollyGood Chelsea owner made the mistake of sacking the coach too early when he sacked Tuchel and that’s why he’s keen not to repeat that mistake and therefore Poch is getting lots of time. Furthermore in my personal opinion Poch should stay because there’s no way any new coach can come and transform this Chelsea side because the squad is very big and many are new recruits and it was always going to take a while hence Poch should not be sacked at least for now.

For reasons not known or understood, the new Chelsea owner decided to sack Tuchel while he thought Potter was an up and coming manager and would be a long term project at Chelsea. Unfortunately for both parties, it did not work and Chelsea are paying for that error. Potter was way out of his depth because Chelsea were/are far bigger than Brighton and Hove Albion (his previous team as manager) and he could not cope with the demands of the fans or even manage a team full of expensive signings.

Pochettino will not lose his job at the end of the season. He will be there at the start of next season because Chelsea cannot afford to make another disastrous error.

Football management has evolved since he was at Tottenham. Not to mention that when Conte was fired, Tottenham had the opportunity to bring him back but chose other available options (they got a better modern manager).

Before you talk about Poch's successes at Tottenham, keep in mind that he won nothing during the golden Tottenham era and nearly destroyed the team after three brilliant seasons.

Poch is not a bad coach, but he is not the manager for our young project since his player management is terrible.

In your opinion who should be managing Chelsea now?

[Igebotz]

Football management has evolved since he was at Tottenham. Not to mention that when Conte was fired, Tottenham had the opportunity to bring him back but chose other available options (they got a better modern manager).

Before you talk about Poch's successes at Tottenham, keep in mind that he won nothing during the golden Tottenham era and nearly destroyed the team after three brilliant seasons.

Poch is not a bad coach, but he is not the manager for our young project since his player management is terrible.

In your opinion who should be managing Chelsea now?

I will take back either Mourinho or Conte easily - we need discipline and someone to install winning mentality into the players and the team and only Conte and Mourinho can do this in a Short term. But it's not gonna happen, our Owners want the "Yes Sir" manager so Conte and Mourinho are way out of their league.

[tokeweed]

I'm not saying Poch will def not be a success.  He very may well could be a success.  All I'm saying is it won't be a surprise if he's given the sack after a year or if they still have an empty trophy cabinet.

I agree but I think in the case of Chelsea, their fans have been through a lot of disruption and problems over the past few years therefore they will be patient with Pochettino as they need to start building stability.

Never in my experience watching football over the years have the fans become more patient the longer they went on a dry spell.  Lol.  Not especially the fans of a club that has the culture like Chelsea's...  :/

If anything, it fuels their frustration.  I mean look at Arsenal.  They removed Wenger of all people because the club's top brass finally gave in to the fans' demands...  Just to find out Wenger wasn't the problem.    So they had to endure worst results than what Wenger was bringing them.  They're lucky Arteta turned out to be a decent manager.  Chelsea wasn't so lucky with Lampard.

[JollyGood]

I will take back either Mourinho or Conte easily - we need discipline and someone to install winning mentality into the players and the team and only Conte and Mourinho can do this in a Short term. But it's not gonna happen, our Owners want the "Yes Sir" manager so Conte and Mourinho are way out of their league.

If Chelsea had Mourinho back he would not last long because he is not the special one and the last time he won something of relevance was year ago. Both Conte and Mourinho would last long in the Premier League, they had their chances and showed they are able to mount a serious challenge to the top teams. After his operation when he was Tottenham manager, Conte was never the same man or manager again.

I mean look at Arsenal.  They removed Wenger of all people because the club's top brass finally gave in to the fans' demands...  Just to find out Wenger wasn't the problem.    So they had to endure worst results than what Wenger was bringing them.  They're lucky Arteta turned out to be a decent manager.  Chelsea wasn't so lucky with Lampard.

If Arteta was not given time when things were looking bad they would not be challnging for the title last season. If fans had turned against Arteta when he refused to play Ozil and got his contract terminated or when he got rid of Aubameyang, things would have been different.

[tokeweed]

^  True, but Arterta turned out to be a decent manager who had something in mind for a rebuild in Arsenal.  Now...  Compare it to Chelsea's Frank Lampard, if he was 'given time', there'll be Lampard out all over Stamford Bridge, supporters would be disgusted and walk out during lacklustre performances, players start complaining and overall ticket sales would eventually go down.  And that's when the top brass start considering giving their manager the sack as it's the easiest thing they could do.

If the club decides to stick with their manager, it's gonna be expensive like what City is doing with Guardiola.  Every mistake Guardiola did in the transfer market was met with getting rid of the player after a season or two and replaced by another player.  Don't think Chelsea wants to do the same thing with Poch.  But I could be wrong.

[JollyGood]

In the case of Guardiola at Manchester City, they had (and still have) phenomenal financial resources. By the looks of it, they have breached the UEFA fair play rules and they will pay a heavy price. If they are found guilty in any of the 115 charges against them they should be relegated to the League Two and they should ALL of their trophy wins revoked for those periods at the very least.

Other than that, I remember Mourinho once stating as manager of Manchester United that when Guardiola brought a player but realised he was not fitting in to his team the way he wanted (say a goalkeeper), he was allowed to go out and buy another without question but Mourinho could not do that when he wanted to buy Maguire and several others. If Pochettino is Chelsea manager the board should allow him to manage including choosing which players to buy/sell because of they do not it will mean they have no confidence in him therefore should replace him.

If the club decides to stick with their manager, it's gonna be expensive like what City is doing with Guardiola.  Every mistake Guardiola did in the transfer market was met with getting rid of the player after a season or two and replaced by another player.  Don't think Chelsea wants to do the same thing with Poch.  But I could be wrong.

[tokeweed]

^  But keep in mind that Guardiola's position at City is a special case.  So we couldn't really compare him to any other manager in football...

City... When the oilers took over, they had hired Ferran Soriano as their CEO and Txiki as their director of football.  Both these guys were in Barca's top brass when they took the risk on making an untested B team manager in Guardiola to hold the reigns of one of the biggest clubs in Europe.  The gamble paid off and Guardiola not only brought success but he also brought his own brand of football which many clubs try to emulate today.

So there's history behind these guys and full support from the club.  The funny thing is it's Guardiola who's in question if he supports the club in the middle of all the shenanigans.

[Onyeeze]

Chelsea vs Fulham match is ongoing right now and they have played almost half time but the thing is that Chelsea everyone is looking on to Chelsea to defeat the match and people who is against Chelsea is looking up to Fulham to defeat Chelsea, but if Chelsea plays well they are supposed to defeat Fulham but the lapses in Chelsea will not allow them to win this match after this first half, because the first half is ending to an end and they are now playing with extra minutes, so the if Chelsea fails to score the first half as is ending to end the second half will not be easy for them

[JollyGood]

These are the two Premier League games today Saturday 13th January:

Chelsea vs Fulham
Newcastle United vs Manchester City

Chelsea are winning 1-0 in their early kick-off game against Fulham. Manchester City need to win against Newcastle United in order to put pressure on the rest of the top four (and especially send a message to Liverpool) that they are not going to give up and will try to retain the title again.

The gamble paid off and Guardiola not only brought success but he also brought his own brand of football which many clubs try to emulate today.

Guardiola definitely brought his attacking and possession based football brand to the Premier League, that cannot be denied. How much of that success was because Manchester City cheated by breaking fair play rules on 115 occasions?

Chelsea vs Fulham match is ongoing right now

Chelsea took the lead.

[JollyGood]

These are the two Premier League games today Sunday 14th January:

Everton 0-0 Aston Villa
Manchester United vs Tottenham Hotspur

The game between Everton and Aston Villa has ended in a 0-0 draw therefore a point takes Aston Villa to joint second with Manchester City but sit in third place by virtue of goal difference.

The results from the games played yesterday were:

Chelsea 1-0 Fulham
Newcastle United 2-3 Manchester City

What a game at Newcastle but they lost 2-3 when Manchester City scored a very late winner. Newcastle United had chances to win and were leading 2-1 before De Bruyne came on as a substitute to score a goal and then assist the winner. Chelsea are slowly moving up the Premier League table and are now 9 points away from the top four.