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May 31, 2024, 09:16:16 AM
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A bit more Bucha screw-ups by "Radio Svoboda":
https://youtu.be/hWNEjsN8GMM?t=926

They show "civilians are interrogated at gunpoint", seconds later they show "territorial defense fighters" - a group of people wearing typical civilian clothes and nothing that could distinguish them from civilians.

So, such "TDF" are the ones who should be "thanked" for most of the terror happening. When you start playing guerilla tactics - civilians suffer badly. Was it worth the result?

The whole movie is about SSU colonel, who returned back to his family and was captured w/o any resistance due to photos in one of the family smartphones (aha, "secret" service...), interrogated and tortured and died later in the forest due to beating and cold weather.

Factor in almost 100% 3G-4G/LTE, fiber, cable, whatever else high-speed Internet coverage all over the country - meaning almost real-time data was getting streamed/sent to "appropriate parties" leading to feedback in the form of 204mm shells incoming.
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May 31, 2024, 10:32:24 AM
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Because we've already been through this, the precedent was set and continues to be up kept. It doesn't matter how much Cuba wants to be in military alliance with Russia, or how much beneficial Russia/China can make it for Cuban population, they can make Cuba the most prosperous place on earth, but non of this matters because US just won't allow it. And it's for the better, you don't want super powers buying their way closer to another super power's border, it's called spheres of influence and that's what kept our species from removing ourselves off this planet. But now one power decided to break that delicate balance, and change the status quo by bringing cookies, with expected results from other powers.

Ukraine decided to change. You have a lame excuse for the failure to Ruzzia to peacefully convince Ukraine that they should be a dominion of Moscow - tough sale I reckon. Why calling it cookies when you should call it incompetence?

But now, to things that actually matter: Yesterday the attack in Kerch left at least one transport ship (ferry) out of service. Ukraine claims to have hit more targets (namely landing ships "Tunets"), but that shall wait for confirmation. This is the first stage of disrupting the ability of Ruzzia to supply Crimea. It is likely that future strikes will point at other transport ships, ferries and very likely to the Kerch bridge. The railway connection being built across the southern part of the occupied territories will be a permanent target -  a much easier one to degrade as it is much longer and much closer to free Ukrainian territory.

Last night, there were further attacks in Novorossiysk port, the new Black Sea fleet base after Sebastopol became untenable for most uses. I will update on this as pictures come.

Edit: there are claims of a large oil terminal hit with Ukrainian made Neptune missiles.

The Luhansk strike that took out a Nebo radar (usd 100 M) controlling 400 km of the front is claimed by Ukraine, and there seem to be enough satellite evidence for high credibility.






It seems that Ukraine is also going to get two Swedish AWACS, quite good radar planes that need to be quite careful with the long range Air to Air ruzzian missiles, but still a great tool to monitor Ukrainian and border skyes. The total number of f16 promised to Ukraine are more than 100. Enough for a basic airforce, despite the many challenges around getting these operational.

There is also a ridiculous amount of visually confirmed Ruzzian loses, with a 7 to 1 ratio to Ukrainian material in the last couple of weeks. This includes several T90 tanks.

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May 31, 2024, 02:33:55 PM
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Why do you mix together countries with different politics and ambitions? For instance Belarus doesn't want to be a NATO member, contrary to Georgia and Armenia, but they aren't being asked by NATO to join. It's not NATO that is coming to them, but they're trying to get into NATO. Why is that? What are they so afraid? Maybe they don't want to become a part of the Soviet Union again?

Not true...USA tried to topple Lukashenko in a coup, too. Same as in all former USSR republics, can you
name single one where USA didn't try to "bring democracy" by replacing legal government with
"USA friendly" one? And why would they do that if Russia is not a final goal?
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May 31, 2024, 04:00:14 PM
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Why do you mix together countries with different politics and ambitions? For instance Belarus doesn't want to be a NATO member, contrary to Georgia and Armenia, but they aren't being asked by NATO to join. It's not NATO that is coming to them, but they're trying to get into NATO. Why is that? What are they so afraid? Maybe they don't want to become a part of the Soviet Union again?

Not true...USA tried to topple Lukashenko in a coup, too. Same as in all former USSR republics, can you
name single one where USA didn't try to "bring democracy" by replacing legal government with
"USA friendly" one? And why would they do that if Russia is not a final goal?

I told you coolcoinz, this people here will not deviate from the narrative. Any opposition to Ruzzia is NATO acting in the background. People are not free, they are "bought by cookies" or "under the CIA direction"... it is simply not in their mindset to think that they may see a different future for their children and may want to fight for it.

does it take money and help to get there? Yes, it may be impossible otherwise, Moscow's tentacles are multiple (fortunately, not infinite).


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Why do you mix together countries with different politics and ambitions? For instance Belarus doesn't want to be a NATO member, contrary to Georgia and Armenia, but they aren't being asked by NATO to join. It's not NATO that is coming to them, but they're trying to get into NATO. Why is that? What are they so afraid? Maybe they don't want to become a part of the Soviet Union again?

Not true...USA tried to topple Lukashenko in a coup, too. Same as in all former USSR republics, can you
name single one where USA didn't try to "bring democracy" by replacing legal government with
"USA friendly" one? And why would they do that if Russia is not a final goal?

I told you coolcoinz, this people here will not deviate from the narrative. Any opposition to Ruzzia is NATO acting in the background. People are not free, they are "bought by cookies" or "under the CIA direction"... it is simply not in their mindset to think that they may see a different future for their children and may want to fight for it.

does it take money and help to get there? Yes, it may be impossible otherwise, Moscow's tentacles are multiple (fortunately, not infinite).



Right, only people on the border with Russia/China should be considered as being able to have a free will, but everyone should ignore those Cubans which totally should not have a right to self-determination  Undecided we all believe that right  Huh Hypocrisy at it's best? all people are equal but some people are more equal than others & For my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law

Just so people realize the scale of the issue in case anyone here still thinks that this is just local Ukraine vs. Russia conflict

The Russian Drone Plant That Could Shape the War in Ukraine
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The attack highlighted an important new aspect of the war in Ukraine, military experts say: the speed with which Russia can scale up production of Iranian-designed surveillance and attack drones, drawing on Chinese components, an African workforce and logistics networks that Iran honed during its own yearslong standoff with the West.
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Their low cost compared with the expensive missiles Ukraine uses means air-defense units have sometimes resorted to machine guns to shoot them down.
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In 2020, a United Nations report identified the company as a possible source of engines in Shahed drones found in attacks by Yemen’s Houthis and Iran on Saudi oil facilities the previous year. The engine has a rotary configuration, making it more efficient than piston engines and ideally suited to long-range drones. They can cost tens of thousands of dollars when constructed with high-grade materials, but the price can be cut to a few thousand if cheaper materials are used and longevity isn’t an issue, as would be the case in a suicide drone, experts say. The company didn’t respond to a request for comment.
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The plan is for the Alabuga facility to churn out 6,000 Shahed attack drones a year, in addition to surveillance drones, according to a contract between the plant’s Russian managers and their Iranian partners leaked by the Prana Network and that was independently corroborated by two advisers to the British government. At the end of April, the factory was ahead of its production schedule, having already supplied 4,500 of the promised Shaheds, according to the International Institute for Strategic Studies, a London-based defense-focused think tank.
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After another Russian drone barrage on April 11, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky warned that Ukraine would soon run out of air-defense missiles if the intensity of the Russian strikes continued.
That's only one new factory

Nato has just 5% of air defences needed to protect eastern flank
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Russia’s war against Ukraine has underscored the importance of air defence, as Kyiv begs the west for additional systems and rockets to protect its cities, troops and energy grid against daily bombing raids.

Now people will act surprised to learn what is easier to build, thousands of drones and sea/land/air cruise missiles as well as ballistics and supersonic missiles, or enough missiles that are able to intercept all those different kinds of missiles and drones.

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June 01, 2024, 12:26:39 AM
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We can easily see that it is Biden who is expanding and extending this war.


Biden secretly gave Ukraine permission to strike inside Russia with US arms, Politico reports



https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-secretly-gave-ukraine-permission-strike-inside-russia-with-us-arms-2024-05-30/
WASHINGTON, May 30 (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden has secretly given Ukraine permission to strike inside Russia - solely near the area of Kharkiv - with American weapons, Politico reported on Thursday, citing a U.S. official and two other people familiar with the plan.

"The president recently directed his team to ensure that Ukraine is able to use U.S. weapons for counter-fire purposes in Kharkiv so Ukraine can hit back at Russian forces hitting them or preparing to hit them," Politico reported, citing a U.S. official who added that the policy of allowing long-range strikes inside Russia "has not changed."

Politico's story did not say when Biden gave the permission.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has warned of the threat of a global conflict if Kyiv's Western allies allow it to use weapons they have supplied to strike inside Russia, something Ukraine's government is urging its partners to permit.

The United States has said it does not encourage or enable the use of U.S. weapons for direct attacks on Russia, but Secretary of State Antony Blinken, when asked about Washington's current position on the matter, said on Wednesday it would "adjust and adapt."
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June 01, 2024, 12:26:55 AM
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https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/30/politics/biden-ukraine-limited-strikes-russia/index.html

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Biden gives Ukraine permission to carry out limited strikes within Russia using US weapons
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“The president recently directed his team to ensure that Ukraine is able to use US supplied-weapons for counterfire purposes in Kharkiv so Ukraine can hit back at Russian forces hitting them or preparing to hit them,” one of the officials said.

Nothing secret here.  Cool

My guess is that we are quickly going to find what are those limits. My guess is that the first ones to find out will be the Ruzzia Air and Air defence forces - they are always preparing to hit.


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Right, only people on the border with Russia/China should be considered as being able to have a free will, but everyone should ignore those Cubans which totally should not have a right to self-determination

[...]

Cuba is an independent country with their own dictatorial regime since more than 50 years ago. But this is whattabout and unrelated to Ukraine.

Just so people realize the scale of the issue in case anyone here still thinks that this is just local Ukraine vs. Russia conflict

Nobody does. There are winners in this war, but the Ruzzia people, the Ukrainian people and the EU are not.

The Russian Drone Plant That Could Shape the War in Ukraine
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Shaheds are not intercepted with Patriots nor with expensive missiles - do some research.


That's only one new factory.
[...]

Of the many that can be destroyed, of the many Ruzzia claims is producing XYZ thousand of this and that... Wonderwaffen is limitless.


Nato has just 5% of air defences needed to protect eastern flank
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Ruzzia has less than 0.00001% of the defences they need if they whish to fight NATO. I guess the WSJ is not influenced by Raytheon? Or .. could it be???

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Russia’s war against Ukraine has underscored the importance of air defence, as Kyiv begs the west for additional systemsand rockets to protect its cities, troops and energy grid against daily bombing raids.

If one reads the word "begs" instead of "asks" or "requests" one must suspect an intention.



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https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/30/politics/biden-ukraine-limited-strikes-russia/index.html

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Biden gives Ukraine permission to carry out limited strikes within Russia using US weapons
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“The president recently directed his team to ensure that Ukraine is able to use US supplied-weapons for counterfire purposes in Kharkiv so Ukraine can hit back at Russian forces hitting them or preparing to hit them,” one of the officials said.

Nothing secret here.  Cool

My guess is that we are quickly going to find what are those limits. My guess is that the first ones to find out will be the Ruzzia Air and Air defence forces - they are always preparing to hit.


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Of course nothing secret. If it were secret, I couldn't have posted it. But it was secret when it was authorized.

The point, however, is that this is only a test. The US weapons are outdated, old weapons that have to be used before they become duds. So, let's just see if Ukraine can do any damage with them. Lol.

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https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/30/politics/biden-ukraine-limited-strikes-russia/index.html

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Biden gives Ukraine permission to carry out limited strikes within Russia using US weapons
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“The president recently directed his team to ensure that Ukraine is able to use US supplied-weapons for counterfire purposes in Kharkiv so Ukraine can hit back at Russian forces hitting them or preparing to hit them,” one of the officials said.

Nothing secret here.  Cool

My guess is that we are quickly going to find what are those limits. My guess is that the first ones to find out will be the Ruzzia Air and Air defence forces - they are always preparing to hit.

Air defence is one of the highest priority targets in all conflicts and all sides, you're just stating an obvious thing. But it's a change in paradigm, US is trying to redefine what it means to be a party to a conflict, we're setting the precedent that country X can buy soldiers in country Y (by paying their salaries, retirement, healthcare etc...) and then send them their weapons, so soldiers paid by country X can attack country Z with X's weapons without X being a part of the conflict? Another terrible precedent being set onto the world.



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Right, only people on the border with Russia/China should be considered as being able to have a free will, but everyone should ignore those Cubans which totally should not have a right to self-determination

[...]

Cuba is an independent country with their own dictatorial regime since more than 50 years ago. But this is whattabout and unrelated to Ukraine.

"independent country" which is not allowed to join military alliance or place weapons on it's own land. You're attempting to use whattaboutism to justify double standards For my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law. First set precedent then claim whataboutism. Pretty much removing all laws and standards upholding global stability, total mystery why there are so many wars around the world, must be all Putin  Huh



Just so people realize the scale of the issue in case anyone here still thinks that this is just local Ukraine vs. Russia conflict

Nobody does. There are winners in this war, but the Ruzzia people, the Ukrainian people and the EU are not.


Finally! Now if you start thinking of this as one superpower trying to expand it's sphere of influence (through financial means onto another aka financial expansionism), let's think of possible outcomes. Either they're successful and Russia collapses (and after it China) or things go back to status quo of 2013, or as stakes continue to rise "west" might collapse. There's just no free lunch in this world.


The Russian Drone Plant That Could Shape the War in Ukraine
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Shaheds are not intercepted with Patriots nor with expensive missiles - do some research.


Shaheds were and still are intercepted by the expensive missiles. It's obviously preferential to use other less expansive means but expensive missiles are still used as a last line of defense against the few drones that are not defeated by other cheaper means and are going for high value targets.



That's only one new factory.
[...]

Of the many that can be destroyed, of the many Ruzzia claims is producing XYZ thousand of this and that... Wonderwaffen is limitless.


"At the end of April, the factory was ahead of its production schedule, having already supplied 4,500 of the promised Shaheds, according to the Institute for Science and International Security, a Washington, D.C.-based defense-focused think tank."
I'm assuming Russia would claim a much higher number. your denial seems to cloud your reading comprehension   Roll Eyes



Nato has just 5% of air defences needed to protect eastern flank
[...]

Ruzzia has less than 0.00001% of the defences they need if they whish to fight NATO. I guess the WSJ is not influenced by Raytheon? Or .. could it be???

...


I just love when you make up numbers without any citations.



Russia’s war against Ukraine has underscored the importance of air defence, as Kyiv begs the west for additional systemsand rockets to protect its cities, troops and energy grid against daily bombing raids.

If one reads the word "begs" instead of "asks" or "requests" one must suspect an intention.


It's indeed interesting choice of words by Financial Times. Could either shows intent or the reality and the gravity of the current situation. Next article by Bloomberg should hint at which one it is.

Ukraine Is Running Short of People
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Drain on manpower emerging as main concern among businesses
Conscription, exodus shrink work force by more than a quarter

Ukraine’s manpower shortage is beginning to bite.

The same drain on personnel that’s weakened Ukrainian forces staving off Russia’s onslaught on the battlefield is also sapping the productivity of the war-battered nation’s factory floors, construction sites, mines and restaurants.

It’s a conundrum for President Volodymyr Zelenskiy, who is desperate to replenish his forces while ensuring that the shortage doesn’t damage an economy he needs to keep afloat.
“We are now in a war of attrition,” Ukrainian Deputy Central Bank Governor Sergiy Nikolaychuk said in an interview in Kyiv. “It is very difficult to choose between butter and guns.”

The problem will only intensify as the Russian invasion drags well into its third year and Kyiv is forced to fill a gap left by millions who have either fled the country, joined the army or fallen in battle. As Ukraine’s military struggles to hold the line against a fresh Russian offensive, its economy — which has lost a quarter of its output since the invasion began — risks being further weakened by the shrinking workforce.

Nikolaychuk said a collapse in economic output compared with 2021 was linked with a contraction of about 27% in the available labor force from pre-war levels.
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It’s a policy challenge that can’t be fixed with help from allies, who are dispatching ammunition and air-defense equipment. Manpower is a finite issue — one that gives Russia and its vast resources an advantage.
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Petruk said. Some 15% of Metinvest [which employs almost 60,000 people] workers have been conscripted, she said.
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Kyiv’s metro system said it’ll soon run fewer trains because migration and conscription caused a “significant deficit” of workers that’s expected to worsen as more employees join the army. Mykolaiv, a southern city near the front line, reduced bus services because of the mobilization of drivers, Mayor Oleksandr Sienkevych told Suspilne, a public broadcaster.
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Many are also hiring women for jobs once predominantly held by men, such as in mining, bringing in students or hiring foreign staff, including migrants from Turkey, she said.

15% of all 60,000 workers. How many of all of the workers were women, men under 25 over 60, and otherwise ineligible for conscription? Then we can guesstimate what percentage of able-bodied men have already been sent to the front lines and how many still left.

Looks like they're starting to bring in people from Turkey to fill in the population gap, just like in Germany

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Edit 2024.06.02 - Around 300 HIMARS rockets have been used in just 5 days. If you want to know where they went, you can check the Pro=Ruzzian telegram channels, where they give details of how a full convoy going to the Sumy offensive was obliterated - i repeat, this comes from Ruzzian sources.

I think the commanders did not read my post about how the restriction on attacks in Ruzzian pre-2014 territory had been lifted and decided to take an unprotected walk around the fields in a perfect line of vehicles.
There are reports on bases equally hit, with massive destruction as the Ruzzian were shamefully unprepared.

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Look, keep linking your "selected" sources - all opinion but little facts, but anyone following the front knows that Ruzzia is pretty much stopped everywhere. There are images of "clown car tanks", carrying 20+ people in just one tank.

Let's be honest, if Ruzzia cannot "win" this year, it is going to get veeery ugly for them. The only strategy is always doubling the bet, and Martingales always end with a zero.

Today there are some factual news:


- Firstly, Ruzzia used missiles in relatively large numbers, but nothing like at the start of the war, to once more target power and hydropower centrals in Ukraine. While many missiles are intercepted, some made it unfortunately. Hopefully, Ukraine will keep receiving further air defence units and eventually the AWACS from Sweden will provide a much better chance to stop these. There is going to be hard times before things get better.

- Secondly, Ukraine now is perfectly able to respond. The hits in the Ferries that served the Kerch bridge crossing are now "drydocked" and the fuel depots in the nearby port have been blasted. At least things are now balanced in costs.

- On the other side, there is public confirmation of the US an Germany allowing the use of their weapons in Ruzzian pre-2014 territories, specially in Belgorod. The recent change in strategy to hit expensive and difficult to replace oil infrastructure in Ruzzia is showing some results an Ruzzia will not enjoy the safety of not being hit in Belgorod.

- On regards to the front, Ruzzia is plainly stopped. The Kharkiv offensive ended up in a massive disaster for Ruzzia, with ridiculous loses.

- Something seems to be happening when Ruzzia needs to attack like this:

https://youtu.be/KGD_fT5Sb0M?t=8

A "clown tank". How many can you count? 25? 30?

Plus a free anecdote, which may turn later on to be more than anecdote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LeJH8iZ6ZM


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So now you believe Russian telegram channels? But they also said they killed 1700 Ukrainian soldiers today

That Swedish AWACS will change nothing, as Ukrainians receive all the intel they need from USA/UK anyway

Now that we established that Russian telegram channels tell truth about both sides losses, how about

you find equal Ukrainian channel, since posting photos/videos equals to 15+ years in Gulag for Ukrainians,

or death as we saw few times already, even for American citizens
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So now you believe Russian telegram channels? But they also said they killed 1700 Ukrainian soldiers today

That Swedish AWACS will change nothing, as Ukrainians receive all the intel they need from USA/UK anyway

Now that we established that Russian telegram channels tell truth about both sides losses, how about

you find equal Ukrainian channel, since posting photos/videos equals to 15+ years in Gulag for Ukrainians,

or death as we saw few times already, even for American citizens

I do not particularly, but there is video evidence of missiles hitting Belgorod. Everything adds up.

The AWACS make a big difference, because they can fly over Ukraine freely. It is a simple question of being able to detect while keeping away from the long range Ruzzian Air-Air missiles (R37 I seem to recall).

Ukraine has a limit on posting on-line information that can lead to locations and the like, which is in general ignored - pretty much in the same way is ignored in Ruzzia. I have not seen evidence of you claims, please post it here. I mean, unless it is not true.


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Take it from a Ukrainian: Western Systems “Worthless.”:


https://responsiblestatecraft.org/ukraine-us-weapons/

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Take it from a Ukrainian: Western Systems “Worthless.”:


https://responsiblestatecraft.org/ukraine-us-weapons/



Meanwhile near Belgorod...

https://s3.eu-central-2.wasabisys.com/liveuamap/videos/579943676020069306/v.mp4

... waiting for you to provide evidence of the AWACS being not useful and some facts (not opinion - which anyone can post without any consequence in the west). There will always be retired generals or any other trying to get their 5 minutes of fame, but in the end Ruzzia has been stopped in its tracks in Kharkiv and are taking loses in Belgorod with those "systems that do not work".

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Jedna lasta ne čini proljeće

It just doesn't work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8IBwse5sgQ&t=3201s

Western systems are just worthless:

https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1783247000059728064

Worthless Abrams's stuck in mud:

https://odysee.com/@SENIORENSICHT:a/ukraine-blamage-f%C3%BCr-bejubelte:6
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Jedna lasta ne čini proljeće

It just doesn't work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8IBwse5sgQ&t=3201s

Western systems are just worthless:

https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1783247000059728064

Worthless Abrams's stuck in mud:

https://odysee.com/@SENIORENSICHT:a/ukraine-blamage-f%C3%BCr-bejubelte:6

Again, you have provided opinion, but no fact, no substance, just narrative. Apart from a tank stuck in the mud (Seriously? A tank stuck? you are not even trying are you?)

I am sure the Ruzzian soldiers in the front could tell a different story. If there were alive after the attacks with all those weapons that "do not work".

I do give credit to the fact that Ruzzia has a good degree of EW, but what I have seen is that it makes it more difficult that's all. One of the obvious problems is that the number of systems is limited.

On the AWACS, I can clearly see how Ukraine is going to develop a proper air force, while quite small, with right defence capabilities. On one side, air defences that are adequate - albeit more would be helpful, then AWACS picking up the Su and Mig that are bombing or being used to launch some missiles and then F16s that will be unlikely to be able to attack freely, but will be there with european Meteor missiles (200 km range) and HARM missiles ready to be shot to anything detected.

I can see a new year in which the air space of Ukraine is going to be full of risks to the Ruzzian "Aerospatial" forces. It is extremely difficult to scape a Meteor - ramjet engine, agile, difficult to pick up...

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Jedna lasta ne čini proljeće

It just doesn't work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8IBwse5sgQ&t=3201s

Western systems are just worthless:

https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1783247000059728064

Worthless Abrams's stuck in mud:

https://odysee.com/@SENIORENSICHT:a/ukraine-blamage-f%C3%BCr-bejubelte:6

Again, you have provided opinion, but no fact, no substance, just narrative. Apart from a tank stuck in the mud (Seriously? A tank stuck? you are not even trying are you?)

I am sure the Ruzzian soldiers in the front could tell a different story. If there were alive after the attacks with all those weapons that "do not work".

I do give credit to the fact that Ruzzia has a good degree of EW, but what I have seen is that it makes it more difficult that's all. One of the obvious problems is that the number of systems is limited.

On the AWACS, I can clearly see how Ukraine is going to develop a proper air force, while quite small, with right defence capabilities. On one side, air defences that are adequate - albeit more would be helpful, then AWACS picking up the Su and Mig that are bombing or being used to launch some missiles and then F16s that will be unlikely to be able to attack freely, but will be there with european Meteor missiles (200 km range) and HARM missiles ready to be shot to anything detected.

I can see a new year in which the air space of Ukraine is going to be full of risks to the Ruzzian "Aerospatial" forces. It is extremely difficult to scape a Meteor - ramjet engine, agile, difficult to pick up...


Sorry if I respect Ukrainian opinion about west weapons quality more than your PR
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June 03, 2024, 12:27:41 PM
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Jedna lasta ne čini proljeće

It just doesn't work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8IBwse5sgQ&t=3201s

Western systems are just worthless:

https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1783247000059728064

Worthless Abrams's stuck in mud:

https://odysee.com/@SENIORENSICHT:a/ukraine-blamage-f%C3%BCr-bejubelte:6

Again, you have provided opinion, but no fact, no substance, just narrative. Apart from a tank stuck in the mud (Seriously? A tank stuck? you are not even trying are you?)

I am sure the Ruzzian soldiers in the front could tell a different story. If there were alive after the attacks with all those weapons that "do not work".

I do give credit to the fact that Ruzzia has a good degree of EW, but what I have seen is that it makes it more difficult that's all. One of the obvious problems is that the number of systems is limited.

On the AWACS, I can clearly see how Ukraine is going to develop a proper air force, while quite small, with right defence capabilities. On one side, air defences that are adequate - albeit more would be helpful, then AWACS picking up the Su and Mig that are bombing or being used to launch some missiles and then F16s that will be unlikely to be able to attack freely, but will be there with european Meteor missiles (200 km range) and HARM missiles ready to be shot to anything detected.

I can see a new year in which the air space of Ukraine is going to be full of risks to the Ruzzian "Aerospatial" forces. It is extremely difficult to scape a Meteor - ramjet engine, agile, difficult to pick up...

Dismissing all sources from reputable news agencies as false opinions only to post about your own visions  Roll Eyes do tell what else do you see in your dreams, so we can completely switch to just shitposts.

Funny how you briefly mentioned R37 It is designed to shoot down tankers, AWACS and other C4ISTAR aircraft[1] while keeping the launch platform out of range of any fighters that might be protecting the target. According to Janes there are two variants, the R-37 and the R-37M; the latter conceived as having a jettisonable rocket booster that increases the range to "300–400 km" (160–220 nm). and make sure to totally ignore the range of S-400 with some missiles going to 400km and don't think about what already happened to most of UA air force planes, and try to evade the fact that Russia can hit any target in UA while planes need active runways to land at. Other than that, your dreams of few old planes being yet another game-changing weapons system which this time will surely tip the balance, makes a good morale booster for unsophisticated reader.

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June 03, 2024, 01:13:39 PM
Last edit: June 03, 2024, 01:47:26 PM by Xal0lex
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Dismissing all sources from reputable news agencies as false opinions only to post about your own visions  Roll Eyes do tell what else do you see in your dreams, so we can completely switch to just shitposts.

Funny how you briefly mentioned R37 It is designed to shoot down tankers, AWACS and other C4ISTAR aircraft[1] while keeping the launch platform out of range of any fighters that might be protecting the target. According to Janes there are two variants, the R-37 and the R-37M; the latter conceived as having a jettisonable rocket booster that increases the range to "300–400 km" (160–220 nm). and make sure to totally ignore the range of S-400 with some missiles going to 400km and don't think about what already happened to most of UA air force planes, and try to evade the fact that Russia can hit any target in UA while planes need active runways to land at. Other than that, your dreams of few old planes being yet another game-changing weapons system which this time will surely tip the balance, makes a good morale booster for unsophisticated reader.

Yet the people who are providing the F-16s and the AWACS know of the R-37 and the s400 (claimed) capabilities. does this tell you anything? do you think they are simply making a mistake? I would encourage you to understand how planes have to fight in an unsafe / contested airspace, what are the requirements for an R-37 to reach the claimed range and why the Meteor does not have that limitation.

In any case, Ukraine form having a few legacy non-updated Mig-29, who were not good enough even two decades ago, is now going to have a proper Airforce, to a size that is enough to cause many many problems for Ruzzia.

It would be quite helpful too to have a load of Iris-T or Sidewinders for the Cruise missiles... it is cheaper than Patriot.

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June 03, 2024, 02:18:30 PM
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Dismissing all sources from reputable news agencies as false opinions only to post about your own visions  Roll Eyes do tell what else do you see in your dreams, so we can completely switch to just shitposts.

Funny how you briefly mentioned R37 It is designed to shoot down tankers, AWACS and other C4ISTAR aircraft[1] while keeping the launch platform out of range of any fighters that might be protecting the target. According to Janes there are two variants, the R-37 and the R-37M; the latter conceived as having a jettisonable rocket booster that increases the range to "300–400 km" (160–220 nm). and make sure to totally ignore the range of S-400 with some missiles going to 400km and don't think about what already happened to most of UA air force planes, and try to evade the fact that Russia can hit any target in UA while planes need active runways to land at. Other than that, your dreams of few old planes being yet another game-changing weapons system which this time will surely tip the balance, makes a good morale booster for unsophisticated reader.

Yet the people who are providing the F-16s and the AWACS know of the R-37 and the s400 (claimed) capabilities. does this tell you anything? do you think they are simply making a mistake? I would encourage you to understand how planes have to fight in an unsafe / contested airspace, what are the requirements for an R-37 to reach the claimed range and why the Meteor does not have that limitation.

In any case, Ukraine form having a few legacy non-updated Mig-29, who were not good enough even two decades ago, is now going to have a proper Airforce, to a size that is enough to cause many many problems for Ruzzia.

It would be quite helpful too to have a load of Iris-T or Sidewinders for the Cruise missiles... it is cheaper than Patriot.

Hmm deja vu, oh right, you mean just like those previous deliveries of Leopards and Abrams that they were pushing for? How did that turn out? But guess at this point anything just to keep morale from a total collapse, so this could be dragged out for a bit longer.


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