Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[AgrarniyyChel]

There was a huge attack on Russian airfields at night, Russian military commanders say that there were air raids. We are waiting for satellite images.

[FillersENG]

The more Ukraine captures, the more it will exchange later. Everything is right.

[BADecker]

Today... last night Russia did its work. Time for Ukraine to lose its tradeoffs.


Russian defenses thwart Ukrainian air attacks – MOD


https://www.rt.com/russia/602594-ukraine-drones-missiles-russia/?ysclid=lzu4bns0m1731434513
Kiev launched four tactical ballistic missiles and over 100 drones overnight, which were reportedly intercepted

Russian forces have intercepted four Tochka-U tactical ballistic missiles and 117 kamikaze drones launched overnight by Ukraine at various parts of the country, the Defense Ministry in Moscow has reported.

Most were downed over Kursk Region, which Kiev invaded last week in what its leadership has touted as a way to secure a better position for future peace talks. All of the Soviet-era missiles and 37 of the drones were downed there, according to military and civilian officials.

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Most of Ukraine’s non-nuclear generation capacity has been disabled or destroyed by Russian strikes.
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Breaking News: Russia Strikes Secret NATO Command Center in Ukraine


https://amg-news.com/breaking-news-russia-strikes-secret-nato-command-center-in-ukraine/
Breaking News: Russia’s devastating missile strike on a secret NATO command center in Ukraine leaves several hundred NATO officers killed or wounded. Discover the dramatic details of the Yavoriv attack, the geopolitical implications, and the international response. Read more to understand the escalating conflict between Russia and NATO.

In a stunning and dramatic escalation of hostilities, Russian forces have executed a devastating missile strike on a secret NATO command center in Ukraine, reducing it to a smoldering bomb crater and causing significant casualties among NATO personnel. This unprecedented attack has sent shockwaves across the global geopolitical landscape, marking a severe intensification of the ongoing conflict between Russia and Western military alliances.

Yavoriv Command Center in Flames: The targeted facility, located at the Yavoriv command center and training ground, was a critical hub for NATO operations in Ukraine. This site has long been a focal point for Western military coordination and strategic planning in the region. The precision strike, carried out with Russia’s state-of-the-art “Kinzhal” hypersonic missiles, has reportedly killed or wounded several hundred NATO officers, adding a dire chapter to the conflict’s history.
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[suchmoon]

Russia’s devastating missile strike on a secret NATO command center in Ukraine leaves several hundred NATO officers killed or wounded

They must have killed all NATO soldiers by now... starting with hundreds if not thousands in secret underground tunnels two years ago in Mariupol. Time to invade Poland because there is no one left to defend it.

[BADecker]

Russia’s devastating missile strike on a secret NATO command center in Ukraine leaves several hundred NATO officers killed or wounded

They must have killed all NATO soldiers by now... starting with hundreds if not thousands in secret underground tunnels two years ago in Mariupol. Time to invade Poland because there is no one left to defend it.

The idea is to not have war. Leave Poland out of it, and stop the Ukrainian warmongering military. Now if Poland were to invade Belarus, it would be a different story. Or isn't there anybody left to attack Belarus.

[paxmao]

Russia’s devastating missile strike on a secret NATO command center in Ukraine leaves several hundred NATO officers killed or wounded

They must have killed all NATO soldiers by now... starting with hundreds if not thousands in secret underground tunnels two years ago in Mariupol. Time to invade Poland because there is no one left to defend it.

For what I heard. Ruzzia was very successful intercepting a quite massive Ukrainian drone attack in airports. The used planes and buildings and put them in the middle of the drones so that these would explode without hitting other things.

Zelensky has stated that the "negotiation fund" has grow a lot thanks to the Kursk "special operation". Translatation: We have made prisoners in the range of two thousands, many are not even soldiers, but conscripts that simply happened to have been sent (against the Ruzzian law appartently) to guard a front with no particular training or motivation. Also, the real state in Kursk may catch a good price in the future, who knows.

Jokes apart, Ukraine needed this action. You cannot fight a war with your hands tied and just hoping the enemy does not advance more. The strategy of blasting refineries and critical military equipment with long range drones was a step in the right direction - making the war costly, giving Ruzzia reasons to want to end it and to a point deterring a future invasion (to a point). Now, with more prisoners and a chunk of Ruzzia the situation improves whenever the negotiation happens, if it happens.

My guess is that Ukraine will be able to hold at least part of the current land, they have troops in there and it is better to have then in a front inside Ruzzia that in a front inside Ukraine. The letter to St Claus would be capturing the nuclear plant west of Kursk, but that may not happen. Meanwhile causing reputational damage, getting the war out of Ukraine into Ruzzia and creating a window of opportunity is a great achievement.

[Dimitarus]

Russia’s devastating missile strike on a secret NATO command center in Ukraine leaves several hundred NATO officers killed or wounded

They must have killed all NATO soldiers by now... starting with hundreds if not thousands in secret underground tunnels two years ago in Mariupol. Time to invade Poland because there is no one left to defend it.

For what I heard. Ruzzia was very successful intercepting a quite massive Ukrainian drone attack in airports. The used planes and buildings and put them in the middle of the drones so that these would explode without hitting other things.

Zelensky has stated that the "negotiation fund" has grow a lot thanks to the Kursk "special operation". Translatation: We have made prisoners in the range of two thousands, many are not even soldiers, but conscripts that simply happened to have been sent (against the Ruzzian law appartently) to guard a front with no particular training or motivation. Also, the real state in Kursk may catch a good price in the future, who knows.

Jokes apart, Ukraine needed this action. You cannot fight a war with your hands tied and just hoping the enemy does not advance more. The strategy of blasting refineries and critical military equipment with long range drones was a step in the right direction - making the war costly, giving Ruzzia reasons to want to end it and to a point deterring a future invasion (to a point). Now, with more prisoners and a chunk of Ruzzia the situation improves whenever the negotiation happens, if it happens.

My guess is that Ukraine will be able to hold at least part of the current land, they have troops in there and it is better to have then in a front inside Ruzzia that in a front inside Ukraine. The letter to St Claus would be capturing the nuclear plant west of Kursk, but that may not happen. Meanwhile causing reputational damage, getting the war out of Ukraine into Ruzzia and creating a window of opportunity is a great achievement.

A good chance to exchange this territory for at least Donbass. I hope Ukrainians will hold on. Do you think the F-16 will be used there?

[paxmao]

Russia’s devastating missile strike on a secret NATO command center in Ukraine leaves several hundred NATO officers killed or wounded

They must have killed all NATO soldiers by now... starting with hundreds if not thousands in secret underground tunnels two years ago in Mariupol. Time to invade Poland because there is no one left to defend it.

For what I heard. Ruzzia was very successful intercepting a quite massive Ukrainian drone attack in airports. The used planes and buildings and put them in the middle of the drones so that these would explode without hitting other things.

Zelensky has stated that the "negotiation fund" has grow a lot thanks to the Kursk "special operation". Translatation: We have made prisoners in the range of two thousands, many are not even soldiers, but conscripts that simply happened to have been sent (against the Ruzzian law appartently) to guard a front with no particular training or motivation. Also, the real state in Kursk may catch a good price in the future, who knows.

Jokes apart, Ukraine needed this action. You cannot fight a war with your hands tied and just hoping the enemy does not advance more. The strategy of blasting refineries and critical military equipment with long range drones was a step in the right direction - making the war costly, giving Ruzzia reasons to want to end it and to a point deterring a future invasion (to a point). Now, with more prisoners and a chunk of Ruzzia the situation improves whenever the negotiation happens, if it happens.

My guess is that Ukraine will be able to hold at least part of the current land, they have troops in there and it is better to have then in a front inside Ruzzia that in a front inside Ukraine. The letter to St Claus would be capturing the nuclear plant west of Kursk, but that may not happen. Meanwhile causing reputational damage, getting the war out of Ukraine into Ruzzia and creating a window of opportunity is a great achievement.

A good chance to exchange this territory for at least Donbass. I hope Ukrainians will hold on. Do you think the F-16 will be used there?

I am not sure how the f16 are going to be used. Airfields in Ukraine have a problem at the moment. Ideally Ukraine would need to improve the drone defence.

I have always said that the right plane for Ukraine is the Grippen. You can fly it from a road, maintain it with a handful of people, is fully compatible and integrated with the Swedish AWACS that were given to Ukraine and can carry the Meteor european missile, which is a true nightmare for any plane flying at scenario level.

[DaRude]

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The Kursk "Special Operation" is designed to draw troops from the Donbas and create a dilemma for Ruzzia: either they loose Kursk or they divert troops from the east. In any of those cases the consequences can be of strategic level.

So, is it possible that Ukraine would withdraw? Yes, who knows when. Are they going to leave on their own as gesture of good will   Nah.
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UA doesn't have enough troops to take Kursk, and their supply lines are already stretched as is. Regardless, this confirms my statement, this mission it to put political pressure on Putin to pull troops from the east. It'd be interesting to later read who's idea was it to think that Russia could be pressured with reputational damage, to put it mildly that's not really a thing Russians are really known for. So far looks like UA just opened a new front for themselves where RU can use their conscript force, while continuing to loose in Donbas. The game is what happens first, either Putin succumbs to pressure within, or UA looses their military potential. We shall find out soon enough.

[tvbcof]

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The Kursk "Special Operation" is designed to draw troops from the Donbas and create a dilemma for Ruzzia: either they loose Kursk or they divert troops from the east. In any of those cases the consequences can be of strategic level.

So, is it possible that Ukraine would withdraw? Yes, who knows when. Are they going to leave on their own as gesture of good will   Nah.
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UA doesn't have enough troops to take Kursk, and their supply lines are already stretched as is. Regardless, this confirms my statement, this mission it to put political pressure on Putin to pull troops from the east. It'd be interesting to later read who's idea was it to think that Russia could be pressured with reputational damage, to put it mildly that's not really a thing Russians are really known for. So far looks like UA just opened a new front for themselves where RU can use their conscript force, while continuing to loose in Donbas. The game is what happens first, either Putin succumbs to pressure within, or UA looses their military potential. We shall find out soon enough.

Remember at the start how Russia went deep within Ukraine, all the way up to Kiev in fact, 'uncontested'.  They went in that deep without anywhere near the force structure to actually fight and hold.  Ukraine/NATO was actually prepped and capable of fighting since they planned to 'do' the break-away provinces and had been setting up for it for years.  The reason they did nothing was that it was a trap.  Russia was, as I predicted at the time, to smart to fall for it.

I suspect that the Kursk thing is also a trap.  Over and over since the SMO Ukraine has mostly been fighting a 'social media' war since they are increasingly unable to accomplish anything of substance on the battlefield.  For several reasons they will jump at anything where they can achieve enough of a PR victory to impress the retard classes they will go all in even knowing that total failure and huge losses are the inevitable outcome.  Krinky was a good example.  The losses can get and do get effectively papered over with Western mainstream media PR.

I think that Russia sees this 'UA/NATO-can-be-baited' phenomenon fairly clearly and sets Ukraine up with fake 'wins' just to bait them in.  Since an increasing fraction of the UA conscripts are just waiting for their chance to surrender to the Russians, the Kursk operation would necessarily require participation of the more solid and motivated troops and they are becoming increasingly rare.  Would Russia accept the plunder of the Kursk region just for the opportunity to entrap the remaining solid troops?  I don't know.  It would be a very shrewd and effective move if they made that decision.  For my part I'll wait and see, but will be evaluating to support of detract from this hypothesis.

Again, as I have hypothesized here countless times, the loss of territory and Slavic population stock from the Ukraine region is not a bug for the Zelenski and the people running him; it's a feature.  Very possibly the deal for what Russia would get out of their efforts and playing their part was planned and agreed upon ahead of time, and they probably got a pretty good deal.

[shtangencirkool]

Ukrainian special operation forces has captured and cleared from Russians the fortified tactical locality in underground of Kursk region : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoencKxFO7M&t=82s

Excursion after clearing : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xUCt9Qf3X4&t=6s

[BADecker]

Ukrainian special operation forces has captured and cleared from Russians the fortified tactical locality in underground of Kursk region : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoencKxFO7M&t=82s

Excursion after clearing : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xUCt9Qf3X4&t=6s

This isn't really Ukraine. Rather, it's the US... tempting Russia to use nukes. In addition:

Russia Ready To Execute Nuclear Attacks On NATO Targets, According To Leaked Documents - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-ready-execute-nuclear-attacks-nato-targets-according-leaked-documents


NATO Goes To War INSIDE Russia?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzP_MSzfEU0
That they happened to take advantage of weak points in Russian defenses without NATO intel support? NATO weapons - including German tanks - are killing Russians inside Russia. Red line? Also today, the "green" movement is killing beautiful beaches as the fake EV market collapses...
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[paxmao]

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The Kursk "Special Operation" is designed to draw troops from the Donbas and create a dilemma for Ruzzia: either they loose Kursk or they divert troops from the east. In any of those cases the consequences can be of strategic level.

So, is it possible that Ukraine would withdraw? Yes, who knows when. Are they going to leave on their own as gesture of good will   Nah.
...

UA doesn't have enough troops to take Kursk, and their supply lines are already stretched as is. Regardless, this confirms my statement, this mission it to put political pressure on Putin to pull troops from the east. It'd be interesting to later read who's idea was it to think that Russia could be pressured with reputational damage, to put it mildly that's not really a thing Russians are really known for. So far looks like UA just opened a new front for themselves where RU can use their conscript force, while continuing to loose in Donbas. The game is what happens first, either Putin succumbs to pressure within, or UA looses their military potential. We shall find out soon enough.

Remember at the start how Russia went deep within Ukraine, all the way up to Kiev in fact, 'uncontested'.  They went in that deep without anywhere near the force structure to actually fight and hold.  Ukraine/NATO was actually prepped and capable of fighting since they planned to 'do' the break-away provinces and had been setting up for it for years.  The reason they did nothing was that it was a trap.  Russia was, as I predicted at the time, to smart to fall for it.

I suspect that the Kursk thing is also a trap.  Over and over since the SMO Ukraine has mostly been fighting a 'social media' war since they are increasingly unable to accomplish anything of substance on the battlefield.  For several reasons they will jump at anything where they can achieve enough of a PR victory to impress the retard classes they will go all in even knowing that total failure and huge losses are the inevitable outcome.  Krinky was a good example.  The losses can get and do get effectively papered over with Western mainstream media PR.

I think that Russia sees this 'UA/NATO-can-be-baited' phenomenon fairly clearly and sets Ukraine up with fake 'wins' just to bait them in.  Since an increasing fraction of the UA conscripts are just waiting for their chance to surrender to the Russians, the Kursk operation would necessarily require participation of the more solid and motivated troops and they are becoming increasingly rare.  Would Russia accept the plunder of the Kursk region just for the opportunity to entrap the remaining solid troops?  I don't know.  It would be a very shrewd and effective move if they made that decision.  For my part I'll wait and see, but will be evaluating to support of detract from this hypothesis.

Again, as I have hypothesized here countless times, the loss of territory and Slavic population stock from the Ukraine region is not a bug for the Zelenski and the people running him; it's a feature.  Very possibly the deal for what Russia would get out of their efforts and playing their part was planned and agreed upon ahead of time, and they probably got a pretty good deal.

Theories apart, you cannot win to a big Soviet army with a smaller Soviet army playing the Soviet style of war. You need to use what makes you different from your enemy, namely more speed, better intelligence and make the war as asymmetric as possible. That is the Kursk offensive. Regardeless of Ukraine holding the whole territory or not, they are certainly holding the PoW and certainly creating a reputational problem for Putin and the Ruzzian army.

If you think of it, Ruzzia wants territory XYZ in Ukraine, their troops are there, their allocation of air power is there and the trench system is massively overconstructed in the east and the South. Now, why would it be better to have a chunk of Donbas or a chunk or Kursk and Belgorod?

It is practically the same, if you ask me probably Kursk is less destroyed. So, why not? Just capture as much Kursk as you can and later you can choose to trade it... or not.

[BADecker]

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Remember at the start how Russia went deep within Ukraine, all the way up to Kiev in fact, 'uncontested'.  They went in that deep without anywhere near the force structure to actually fight and hold.  Ukraine/NATO was actually prepped and capable of fighting since they planned to 'do' the break-away provinces and had been setting up for it for years.  The reason they did nothing was that it was a trap.  Russia was, as I predicted at the time, to smart to fall for it.

I suspect that the Kursk thing is also a trap.  Over and over since the SMO Ukraine has mostly been fighting a 'social media' war since they are increasingly unable to accomplish anything of substance on the battlefield.  For several reasons they will jump at anything where they can achieve enough of a PR victory to impress the retard classes they will go all in even knowing that total failure and huge losses are the inevitable outcome.  Krinky was a good example.  The losses can get and do get effectively papered over with Western mainstream media PR.

I think that Russia sees this 'UA/NATO-can-be-baited' phenomenon fairly clearly and sets Ukraine up with fake 'wins' just to bait them in.  Since an increasing fraction of the UA conscripts are just waiting for their chance to surrender to the Russians, the Kursk operation would necessarily require participation of the more solid and motivated troops and they are becoming increasingly rare.  Would Russia accept the plunder of the Kursk region just for the opportunity to entrap the remaining solid troops?  I don't know.  It would be a very shrewd and effective move if they made that decision.  For my part I'll wait and see, but will be evaluating to support of detract from this hypothesis.

Again, as I have hypothesized here countless times, the loss of territory and Slavic population stock from the Ukraine region is not a bug for the Zelenski and the people running him; it's a feature.  Very possibly the deal for what Russia would get out of their efforts and playing their part was planned and agreed upon ahead of time, and they probably got a pretty good deal.

Theories apart, you cannot win to a big Soviet army with a smaller Soviet army playing the Soviet style of war. You need to use what makes you different from your enemy, namely more speed, better intelligence and make the war as asymmetric as possible. That is the Kursk offensive. Regardeless of Ukraine holding the whole territory or not, they are certainly holding the PoW and certainly creating a reputational problem for Putin and the Ruzzian army.

If you think of it, Ruzzia wants territory XYZ in Ukraine, their troops are there, their allocation of air power is there and the trench system is massively overconstructed in the east and the South. Now, why would it be better to have a chunk of Donbas or a chunk or Kursk and Belgorod?

It is practically the same, if you ask me probably Kursk is less destroyed. So, why not? Just capture as much Kursk as you can and later you can choose to trade it... or not.

We understand. An easier way to say it is, Ukraine is desperate. Russia isn't looking for more territory. If they were, they would simply take it. But Ukraine is making that option more attractive to Russia day by day.

[DaRude]

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The Kursk "Special Operation" is designed to draw troops from the Donbas and create a dilemma for Ruzzia: either they loose Kursk or they divert troops from the east. In any of those cases the consequences can be of strategic level.

So, is it possible that Ukraine would withdraw? Yes, who knows when. Are they going to leave on their own as gesture of good will   Nah.
...

UA doesn't have enough troops to take Kursk, and their supply lines are already stretched as is. Regardless, this confirms my statement, this mission it to put political pressure on Putin to pull troops from the east. It'd be interesting to later read who's idea was it to think that Russia could be pressured with reputational damage, to put it mildly that's not really a thing Russians are really known for. So far looks like UA just opened a new front for themselves where RU can use their conscript force, while continuing to loose in Donbas. The game is what happens first, either Putin succumbs to pressure within, or UA looses their military potential. We shall find out soon enough.

Remember at the start how Russia went deep within Ukraine, all the way up to Kiev in fact, 'uncontested'.  They went in that deep without anywhere near the force structure to actually fight and hold.  Ukraine/NATO was actually prepped and capable of fighting since they planned to 'do' the break-away provinces and had been setting up for it for years.  The reason they did nothing was that it was a trap.  Russia was, as I predicted at the time, to smart to fall for it.

I suspect that the Kursk thing is also a trap.  Over and over since the SMO Ukraine has mostly been fighting a 'social media' war since they are increasingly unable to accomplish anything of substance on the battlefield.  For several reasons they will jump at anything where they can achieve enough of a PR victory to impress the retard classes they will go all in even knowing that total failure and huge losses are the inevitable outcome.  Krinky was a good example.  The losses can get and do get effectively papered over with Western mainstream media PR.

I think that Russia sees this 'UA/NATO-can-be-baited' phenomenon fairly clearly and sets Ukraine up with fake 'wins' just to bait them in.  Since an increasing fraction of the UA conscripts are just waiting for their chance to surrender to the Russians, the Kursk operation would necessarily require participation of the more solid and motivated troops and they are becoming increasingly rare.  Would Russia accept the plunder of the Kursk region just for the opportunity to entrap the remaining solid troops?  I don't know.  It would be a very shrewd and effective move if they made that decision.  For my part I'll wait and see, but will be evaluating to support of detract from this hypothesis.

Again, as I have hypothesized here countless times, the loss of territory and Slavic population stock from the Ukraine region is not a bug for the Zelenski and the people running him; it's a feature.  Very possibly the deal for what Russia would get out of their efforts and playing their part was planned and agreed upon ahead of time, and they probably got a pretty good deal.

Theories apart, you cannot win to a big Soviet army with a smaller Soviet army playing the Soviet style of war. You need to use what makes you different from your enemy, namely more speed, better intelligence and make the war as asymmetric as possible. That is the Kursk offensive. Regardeless of Ukraine holding the whole territory or not, they are certainly holding the PoW and certainly creating a reputational problem for Putin and the Ruzzian army.

If you think of it, Ruzzia wants territory XYZ in Ukraine, their troops are there, their allocation of air power is there and the trench system is massively overconstructed in the east and the South. Now, why would it be better to have a chunk of Donbas or a chunk or Kursk and Belgorod?

It is practically the same, if you ask me probably Kursk is less destroyed. So, why not? Just capture as much Kursk as you can and later you can choose to trade it... or not.

I guess the illusion of wunderwaffe switchblades, javelins, m777, patriots, Abrams, Leopards, F16s ... are all gone, and everyone will now act surprised to find out that RU has 4x population of UA? But then the really interesting question is what probability was assigned to such outcome when the cookies were handed out? i.e. is this the expected outcome/just collateral damage in a bigger game, or gross miscalculation?

But i do have to agree with you, UA was loosing slowly, so from UA's perspective there' isn't much else it could do other than to go out with a bang, so to speak. Problem with the maneuverability approach is that it's the same logic that was used during the PRed "counteroffensive", and we all know how well that turned out. Here, there's at least a chance (however insignificant), plus if it turns out just like everyone expects, after such operation there won't be many in UA left to oppose negotiations.

If Ukraine can't hold to its land in Avdiivka, Bahmut, Robotino, Pokrovsk? it's going to be a very difficult sell that it somehow can hold on to regions of Kursk for any significant amount of time. RU political destabilization is a long shot, but it's the only one UA has left right now.

[tvbcof]

Ukrainian special operation forces has captured and cleared from Russians the fortified tactical locality in underground of Kursk region : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoencKxFO7M&t=82s

Excursion after clearing : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xUCt9Qf3X4&t=6s

This isn't really Ukraine. Rather, it's the US... tempting Russia to use nukes. In addition:

Russia Ready To Execute Nuclear Attacks On NATO Targets, According To Leaked Documents - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-ready-execute-nuclear-attacks-nato-targets-according-leaked-documents


NATO Goes To War INSIDE Russia?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzP_MSzfEU0
That they happened to take advantage of weak points in Russian defenses without NATO intel support? NATO weapons - including German tanks - are killing Russians inside Russia. Red line? Also today, the "green" movement is killing beautiful beaches as the fake EV market collapses...
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I'd be highly surprised if the thought of tactical nukes even crossed Putin's mind over the hail-Mary Kursk thing which has no very conceivably durable outcome for UA/NATO.  But it's possible that I am over-estimating him, or that he is neo-con-ish enough to have convinced himself that introducing tactical nukes will of lasting positive benefit for Russia.  I don't see the man as being that much of a risk-taker, nor needing to take such risks as Russia is destined to come out of this thing in much better shape than they probably dreamed possible without resorting to anything very risky.  Doing so only introduces the possibility of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory from the Russian perspective.

[BADecker]

Ukrainian special operation forces has captured and cleared from Russians the fortified tactical locality in underground of Kursk region : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoencKxFO7M&t=82s

Excursion after clearing : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xUCt9Qf3X4&t=6s

This isn't really Ukraine. Rather, it's the US... tempting Russia to use nukes. In addition:

Russia Ready To Execute Nuclear Attacks On NATO Targets, According To Leaked Documents - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-ready-execute-nuclear-attacks-nato-targets-according-leaked-documents


NATO Goes To War INSIDE Russia?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzP_MSzfEU0
That they happened to take advantage of weak points in Russian defenses without NATO intel support? NATO weapons - including German tanks - are killing Russians inside Russia. Red line? Also today, the "green" movement is killing beautiful beaches as the fake EV market collapses...
...

I'd be highly surprised if the thought of tactical nukes even crossed Putin's mind over the hail-Mary Kursk thing which has no very conceivably durable outcome for UA/NATO.  But it's possible that I am over-estimating him, or that he is neo-con-ish enough to have convinced himself that introducing tactical nukes will of lasting positive benefit for Russia.  I don't see the man as being that much of a risk-taker, nor needing to take such risks as Russia is destined to come out of this thing in much better shape than they probably dreamed possible without resorting to anything very risky.  Doing so only introduces the possibility of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory from the Russian perspective.

The media seems to say that Putin talks nukes now and again. Perhaps he isn't serious at all. But he is thinking every direction.

I would agree. So far the game Ukraine has been playing hasn't become serious. Oh sure. It's serious for dying troops. But it isn't an effective strategy for Ukraine to use to win any war... especially with how depleted their military has become in almost every way.

[Violatoor]

Ukrainian special operation forces has captured and cleared from Russians the fortified tactical locality in underground of Kursk region : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoencKxFO7M&t=82s

Excursion after clearing : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xUCt9Qf3X4&t=6s

I saw a video where they staged a great ambush on a truck. Great job, I hope they will move on!

[paxmao]

Ukrainian special operation forces has captured and cleared from Russians the fortified tactical locality in underground of Kursk region : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoencKxFO7M&t=82s

Excursion after clearing : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xUCt9Qf3X4&t=6s

This isn't really Ukraine. Rather, it's the US... tempting Russia to use nukes. In addition:

Russia Ready To Execute Nuclear Attacks On NATO Targets, According To Leaked Documents - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-ready-execute-nuclear-attacks-nato-targets-according-leaked-documents


NATO Goes To War INSIDE Russia?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzP_MSzfEU0
That they happened to take advantage of weak points in Russian defenses without NATO intel support? NATO weapons - including German tanks - are killing Russians inside Russia. Red line? Also today, the "green" movement is killing beautiful beaches as the fake EV market collapses...
...

I'd be highly surprised if the thought of tactical nukes even crossed Putin's mind over the hail-Mary Kursk thing which has no very conceivably durable outcome for UA/NATO.  But it's possible that I am over-estimating him, or that he is neo-con-ish enough to have convinced himself that introducing tactical nukes will of lasting positive benefit for Russia.  I don't see the man as being that much of a risk-taker, nor needing to take such risks as Russia is destined to come out of this thing in much better shape than they probably dreamed possible without resorting to anything very risky.  Doing so only introduces the possibility of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory from the Russian perspective.

The media seems to say that Putin talks nukes now and again. Perhaps he isn't serious at all. But he is thinking every direction.

I would agree. So far the game Ukraine has been playing hasn't become serious. Oh sure. It's serious for dying troops. But it isn't an effective strategy for Ukraine to use to win any war... especially with how depleted their military has become in almost every way.

Putin has of course considered all course of action including tactical nukes and even strategical nukes. However, you only scalate if scalation works in your favour. For example, you could consider Ukraine escalating by tanking large chunks in Kurstk and now Belgorod (I do not really think it is, war is war). They did it because there is a benefit to them in escalating.

There is little to no benefit for Putin to use any kind of nuke, else he would have already. The issue is that you can possibly kill 20.000 people bombing conventionally, but if you kill even half of that with a nuke the international backlash and possibly the direct intervention of the US will not be to your favour.

Deterrence 101.

[Branko]

A good chance to exchange this territory for at least Donbass. I hope Ukrainians will hold on. Do you think the F-16 will be used there?

How do you picture that, Ukraine giving back 500km2 (that they entered, but not fortified) for 50 000km2 of heavily fortified Donbas?



Meanwhile, Ukrainian terrorist attack in Croatia (use Google translate):

https://www.jutarnji.hr/vijesti/crna-kronika/tri-ukrajinca-ciljano-zapalila-35-brodova-u-medulinu-bacili-su-molotovljev-steta-je-dva-milijuna-eura-15492664


Oh, and famous pro-Russian news site debunks Paxmao hopes for Russia default

https://archive.is/20240803205802/https://www.ft.com/content/3e2b2e63-082e-4058-ba92-dea580d4f40c