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August 22, 2024, 11:23:14 PM
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 i don't think RU military could've asked for a better gift than for UA reserves to just willingly leave Donbas and go stay somewhere else (even in RU).

Good, I am sure there will be many more gifts in the near future.  Grin Grin

What do you think is going to happen south of the Seim River? I mean, all bridges blown up and drone footage showing three attempts of laying temporary pontoon bridges blasted by drones? One could think that the Ruzzia troops in there may experience some "difficulties" with supplies?

Today, a ferry full of fuel has been blasted near the Kerch bridge. It is also the fourth day in which the massive fuel depot at Proletarsk near Rostov keeps burning. Ruzzian firefighting teams have given up trying to contain it.




https://youtu.be/MT3LGz5yduI?t=12

And it keeps burning...

Marinovka air field has been hit and it is likely a few planes have been successfully "decommissioned". The new Ukrainian drones explode at some altitude and are much more effective against soft targets, such as hangars and planes.

Putin is buying such an expensive bit of real state... I guess he thinks is worth the money (and the lives of others).

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 i don't think RU military could've asked for a better gift than for UA reserves to just willingly leave Donbas and go stay somewhere else (even in RU).

Good, I am sure there will be many more gifts in the near future.  Grin Grin

What do you think is going to happen south of the Seim River? I mean, all bridges blown up and drone footage showing three attempts of laying temporary pontoon bridges blasted by drones? One could think that the Ruzzia troops in there may experience some "difficulties" with supplies?

Today, a ferry full of fuel has been blasted near the Kerch bridge. It is also the fourth day in which the massive fuel depot at Proletarsk near Rostov keeps burning. Ruzzian firefighting teams have given up trying to contain it.




https://youtu.be/MT3LGz5yduI?t=12

And it keeps burning...

Marinovka air field has been hit and it is likely a few planes have been successfully "decommissioned". The new Ukrainian drones explode at some altitude and are much more effective against soft targets, such as hangars and planes.

Putin is buying such an expensive bit of real state... I guess he thinks is worth the money (and the lives of others).

If UA will move its reserves out of Odesa I'm sure RU can find some land in Russia they can stay at for some time.

Doubt UA will be able to take south of Seim River, the element of surprise is gone, usually the more talk you hear the less action will follow. The thing about pontoon bridges is that we don't know how many were put up, and how many RU is able to put up per day, it's not a really wide river, there are also air bridges etc... UA moves have been purely for PR lately, so if they decide to put in more troops and temporary take south of Seim but permanently give up Kherson, i'm sure RU would probably go for that, so the question is what UA would be willing to give up for the south of Seim.

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Ukraine’s surprise mini-invasion of Russia provokes mixed feelings. Dublin says early successes lifted morale. But it didn’t last. The hope that Russia might respond by moving troops from Pokrovsk has been supplanted by the realisation that it has not. Ukrainian security sources confirm that while Russia has moved troops from other sections of the eastern front line, it reinforced around Pokrovsk. Ukraine meanwhile redeployed special forces units to Kursk, and is patching up the Pokrovsk front with untested formations. “The Russians have figured things out and aren’t taking the bait,” complains Dublin.

 Roll Eyes wondering who could possibly be pushing for this and  breaking another round of peace talks for such a brilliant plan


BORIS JOHNSON: After a week of tactical brilliance, Ukraine could finally end this war

He can either let the insult go unavenged – impossible – or else he will be forced to retake the ­salient, village by village, with waves of conscript troops. What this war has shown so far is that it is far costlier – in blood and ­weapons – to retake a piece of land than to defend it.

So Putin will probably have to divert troops from elsewhere, and the Ukrainians are naturally ­hoping that this will relieve the pressure in the Donbas.

Ahh, right, of course Boris... Well, at least now no one can say that UA didn't try.

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August 23, 2024, 01:08:47 PM
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If UA will move its reserves out of Odesa I'm sure RU can find some land in Russia they can stay at for some time.

Doubt UA will be able to take south of Seim River, the element of surprise is gone, usually the more talk you hear the less action will follow. The thing about pontoon bridges is that we don't know how many were put up, and how many RU is able to put up per day, it's not a really wide river, there are also air bridges etc... UA moves have been purely for PR lately, so if they decide to put in more troops and temporary take south of Seim but permanently give up Kherson, i'm sure RU would probably go for that, so the question is what UA would be willing to give up for the south of Seim.

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Ukraine’s surprise mini-invasion of Russia provokes mixed feelings. Dublin says early successes lifted morale. But it didn’t last. The hope that Russia might respond by moving troops from Pokrovsk has been supplanted by the realisation that it has not. Ukrainian security sources confirm that while Russia has moved troops from other sections of the eastern front line, it reinforced around Pokrovsk. Ukraine meanwhile redeployed special forces units to Kursk, and is patching up the Pokrovsk front with untested formations. “The Russians have figured things out and aren’t taking the bait,” complains Dublin.

 Roll Eyes wondering who could possibly be pushing for this and  breaking another round of peace talks for such a brilliant plan
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I am going to quote you on the Seim river comments, just for future reference. This is not about an massive surrender, it is about many troops and a very tiny pass - even if you lay 3 or 4 pontoons and they hold a bit. We do not know how many pontoon can be laid, but something tells me that the Ukraine high command does in near real time.

The situation includes innumerable possibilities of encircling troops in localities, as there is not a trench line or a proper front offered in defence. It is the definition of being caught unaware - now, that is what I call a gift.

In the dilema of keep the push in the East or protect Kursk, Ruzzia has choosen mostly to loose Kursk and allow untested troops to be basically be taken as hostages. Either way the result for Ukraine is interesting and, in my view, clearly value for money in terms of resources, loses and gains.

This is the latest attack on Marinovka, Volgograd (AKA Stalingrad). There has been jet plane carnage for sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_Vnytjdcrc

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August 23, 2024, 07:03:31 PM
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^^^ Oh come on, paxmao . You know that while Ukraine is futzing around in one little area, that the Russians are almost chuckling at their pathetic attempts.

Sure, some tiny area of Russia is hurt a little. But Russia has barely been fighting, while Ukraine has essentially nothing left.


Putin designates Russia a “safe haven” for those seeking to escape liberal values, offers Westerners easy residency



https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-08-22-putin-designates-russia-safe-haven-escape-liberal-values.html
Russian President Vladimir Putin has designated his country a “safe haven” for those living in Western countries who no longer want to be subjected to “destructive neoliberal ideas.”

A newly signed decree will give any foreigners who wish to trade Western liberal ideals for Russian moral values an easy path to residency. It enables them to apply for temporary residence "outside the quota approved by the Russian government and without providing documents confirming their knowledge of the Russian language, Russian history, and basic laws" that aspiring residents are normally subjected to.

By appealing to those who share “traditional Russian spiritual and moral values,” Putin is making a play for the growing number of people in countless democracies who are fed up with liberal leadership and lamenting where it has brought their country. It’s particularly well-timed considering the possibility that Kamala Harris could win the election in November, undoubtedly sending America even further down the leftist spiral that has damaged our economy, national security and morale and seeks to divide and censor Americans.

Three-month visas using the new, expedited process are expected to be issued as soon as next month.

Russia has been trying to attract disillusioned Westerners for a long time

Russian authorities have been on a push to draw conservative Westerners in recent months and years, trying to position the country as a place where traditional values are still respected.

As part of this push, they announced they were creating a “migrant village” outside of Moscow last year where conservative American and Canadian expats can live. One migration lawyer claimed to already have roughly 200 families who wanted to move there for “ideological reasons” at the time. He added that there were “tens of thousands” of foreign people without any Russian roots who were interested in moving to Russia due to their ideology.

The lawyer, Timur Beslangurov, stated: “The reason is propaganda of radical values: Today they have 70 genders, and who knows what will come next.”
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Russian President Vladimir Putin has designated his country a “safe haven” for those living in Western countries who no longer want to be subjected to “destructive neoliberal ideas.”[...]

I suggest you take the offer.

Sure, some tiny area of Russia is hurt a little. But Russia has barely been fighting, while Ukraine has essentially nothing left.

It looks quite the opposite.  What you are looking at there, in the black smoke, is a billiion size investment in infrastructure and fuel burning. Some sources are saying that Ruzzia is really going down the hole economically.

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It looks quite the opposite.  What you are looking at there, in the black smoke, is a billiion size investment in infrastructure and fuel burning. Some sources are saying that Ruzzia is really going down the hole economically.

This will lead to increase in oil price, and guess who benefits from oil price increase, Russia or Ukraine?
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Russian President Vladimir Putin has designated his country a “safe haven” for those living in Western countries who no longer want to be subjected to “destructive neoliberal ideas.”[...]

I suggest you take the offer.

Sure, some tiny area of Russia is hurt a little. But Russia has barely been fighting, while Ukraine has essentially nothing left.

It looks quite the opposite.  What you are looking at there, in the black smoke, is a billiion size investment in infrastructure and fuel burning. Some sources are saying that Ruzzia is really going down the hole economically.

You are forgetting two major things.

Ukraine tried its best, but that's all they have. But Russia is barely starting.

Russia is trying its hardest to downplay the role that Russia had in the USSR. Russia wants peaceful trade with the world... not Stalin-like force.

PUTIN: Ukraine Tried, But Failed, To Attack Russian Nuclear Power Plant in Kursk - https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/putin-ukraine-tried-but-failed-to-attack-russian-nuclear-power-plant-in-kursk

I spoke with old person who was in wars he said russia is not soviet anymore - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5507162.0


How Sanctions Against Russia Are Collapsing The EU’s Economy



https://greatgameindia.com/how-sanctions-against-russia-are-collapsing-the-eus-economy/
Europe's economy is facing serious trouble. Business failures in the European Union (EU) rose by 3.1% in the second quarter of the year. This follows an even bigger increase of 4.5% in the previous quarter. Despite this worsening situation, the EU is sticking with its tough sanctions against Russia, which seem to be making things worse for Europe.

Let’s break it down:

A Wave of Business Failures

In Greece, the number of businesses going bankrupt has skyrocketed by 133%. Lithuania and Slovakia also saw increases of 16.7% and 7.6% in business closures, respectively. Meanwhile, Italy is struggling with a massive public debt that hit a record €2.94 trillion in June 2024. The country’s debt has grown by €30.3 billion in just one month.

The Sanctions Backfire

The EU has imposed a whopping 19,500 sanctions on Russia, hoping to hurt Russia’s economy. But these sanctions are having the opposite effect. Instead of weakening Russia, they’ve caused serious economic problems for the EU.
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August 24, 2024, 09:59:24 PM
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It looks quite the opposite.  What you are looking at there, in the black smoke, is a billiion size investment in infrastructure and fuel burning. Some sources are saying that Ruzzia is really going down the hole economically.

This will lead to increase in oil price, and guess who benefits from oil price increase, Russia or Ukraine?

So Russia should set all of its refineries and oil depots and possibly oil wells on fire then. That'll bankrupt those pesky Ukrainians.
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It looks quite the opposite.  What you are looking at there, in the black smoke, is a billiion size investment in infrastructure and fuel burning. Some sources are saying that Ruzzia is really going down the hole economically.

This will lead to increase in oil price, and guess who benefits from oil price increase, Russia or Ukraine?

I am sure it will benefit whoever has the facility intact and full of oil. To profit from the price you must keep the oil, it is not sellable pre-burnt or as smoke. It does not move the jet fighters nor the tanks either if it burns before getting to them. Not to mention that this is probably the moment in which Ruzzia needs more oil for self-consumption for  this stupid war.

It seems like the targeted destruction of some early warning radars (I published a few pics a month or so ago) is paying off not. The airport in Volgograd is burning crazy all over, the 28 drones must have hit the fuel depots and possibly many other things.

I guess you are going to argue that this benefits Ruzzia because it raises the price of planes an Ruzzia sells planes?

Well, the price of the ferries for transport in Crimea is also on the raise according to your theory.

https://x.com/KOvsianyi/status/1826912895021494724

Sources say this was the last remaining ferry / railway usable to supply Crimea from Kerch. Ruzzia aparently is not using the bridge for supplies - perhaps is too risky.


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Russia is trying its hardest to downplay the role that Russia had in the USSR. Russia wants peaceful trade with the world... not Stalin-like force.

[...]

BA, look at this. This is the government of Ruzzia that you are defending. Look well, and tonight, after you prayers, dream of the children burnt.

Georgia:



Syria:



https://uploads.guim.co.uk/2022/03/17/Dekstop-Aleppo.mp4

Chechenia



Kharkiv

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Russia is trying its hardest to downplay the role that Russia had in the USSR. Russia wants peaceful trade with the world... not Stalin-like force.

[...]

BA, look at this. This is the government of Ruzzia that you are defending. Look well, and tonight, after you prayers, dream of the children burnt.

Georgia:

https://gdb.rferl.org/ace600e1-6cb0-48d1-92af-4a2b91851f47_w1023_r1_s.jpg

Syria:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/nintchdbpict000261946752.jpg?w=960

https://uploads.guim.co.uk/2022/03/17/Dekstop-Aleppo.mp4

Chechenia

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMB0ZtQWYAUGLRw.jpg

Kharkiv
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTu4K0b6-hpyvFJDQRY2mmfomPKbIWfdmmcfA&s

What can you expect. Mess with anybody or any country, and get the results. Russia has been way more patient with Ukraine than they deserve. Probably the Kharkiv strike was Ukraine doing it as they have so many times. In fact, that was what started the war a couple of decades ago in the Donbas region... Ukraine against their own people.

You throw up some pictures without their story. However, when you ask for war, that's what you get. And accidents happen in war, even when they aren't meant to. If you can't fight in a war, surrender... or at least back off.

But you know that. You know how happy you are when Ukraine goes and kills a bunch of Russians. So, quit being a 'holier than thou' a**h***.  Russia Is Not Our Enemy - https://ronpaulinstitute.org/russia-is-not-our-enemy/


Russia's Capture Of Pokrovsk Could Reshape The Conflict's Dynamics



https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russias-capture-pokrovsk-could-reshape-conflicts-dynamics
Authored by Andrew Korybko via Substack,

The head of neighboring Mirnograd's military administration bluntly said:

"Don't wait. It will not get better, it will only get worse. Leave", and then admitted that "The enemy is advancing faster than expected."

The Associated Press cited local commanders who blamed Russia's swift gains on their side's poorly trained conscripts.

One of them claimed that "Some people don't want to shoot. They see the enemy in the firing position in trenches but don't open fire. ... That is why our men are dying…They don't receive even the lowest standard of training required for our (combat) actions." An unnamed soldier also lamented that "The main problem is the survival instinct of newcomers. Before, people could stand until the last moment to hold the position. Now, even when there is light shelling of firing positions, they are retreating."
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BA, look at this. This is the government of Ruzzia that you are defending. Look well, and tonight, after you prayers, dream of the children burnt.




Comedy gold, someone from UK posting this
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BA, look at this. This is the government of Ruzzia that you are defending. Look well, and tonight, after you prayers, dream of the children burnt.




Comedy gold, someone from UK posting this

You are assuming beyond your possibilities, I am just showing how pacific is Ruzzia, but do not worry, BA is a psychopath, he does not feel other people's pain. He will dream of naked angels no matter what.

There are a number of trenches now dug near the Kurskaya nuclear plant. They are not manned. There is a triangle painted in one of the outer walls of the facility. I guess is some joke from a local... or maybe there is a exploring group there.

Prisoner exchange - 150 conscripts recently captured in Kursk have now been exchanged for some of the last defenders of Mariupol, some from the Azov Batallion forces. One to one only.

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BA, look at this. This is the government of Ruzzia that you are defending. Look well, and tonight, after you prayers, dream of the children burnt.



Comedy gold, someone from UK posting this

The horrors of war are not a comedy. The dead bodies of innocent children are not a joke. To a normal person, at least.

I presume that Vukovar and Srebrenica were also comedy gold for you?

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BA, look at this. This is the government of Ruzzia that you are defending. Look well, and tonight, after you prayers, dream of the children burnt.



Comedy gold, someone from UK posting this

The horrors of war are not a comedy. The dead bodies of innocent children are not a joke. To a normal person, at least.

I presume that Vukovar and Srebrenica were also comedy gold for you?

Is it my bad english or your bad reading comprehension.

Comedy gold is a fact that someone from UK, which starved more than 80 million people in India alone,
is pointing fingers. Did I say that they also sided with Turkey against Russia not that long ago?
It seems that UK wants Crimea badly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_War
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BA, look at this. This is the government of Ruzzia that you are defending. Look well, and tonight, after you prayers, dream of the children burnt.



Comedy gold, someone from UK posting this

The horrors of war are not a comedy. The dead bodies of innocent children are not a joke. To a normal person, at least.

I presume that Vukovar and Srebrenica were also comedy gold for you?

Is it my bad english or your bad reading comprehension.

Comedy gold is a fact that someone from UK, which starved more than 80 million people in India alone,
is pointing fingers. Did I say that they also sided with Turkey against Russia not that long ago?
It seems that UK wants Crimea badly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_War

You are assuming far too much.

Branko, are you aware that most of the education in India is in English? What do you think will happen in Ukraine? do you think that Ruzzia will go thanks toa pacific protest by an Ukrainian leader and then all the education will be taught in Ruzzian? I mean, this is completely whattabout, but if you want to wattabout do it better.

Meanwhile...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k10gHRbFK9E

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How are the successes at the front in Ukraine? I haven't been watching for a long time.
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How are the successes at the front in Ukraine? I haven't been watching for a long time.

Relatively quite in most areas including the Russian footholds in Karkiv, in Zapherozia, and in Kherson.

Russians are making increasingly significant gains in the South Central part of Donesk oblast in part because the 2nd tier Ukroids who were not solid enough to be used in Kursk are simply evacuating without fighting.

Whether Kursk was a trap or not, the results for Ukraine are inline with what one would expect considering the air superiority situation;  heavy losses of manpower and material with little or no gain to show for it, and no realistic medium term hope...except perhaps to be encircled and taken prisoner.

--- Edit unrelated addition:

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/h5ha_HijCgU

He was a "safety advisor".  Lol.  Here's some free safety advice to Western mercs:  Stay out of Ukraine and Russia.


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How are the successes at the front in Ukraine? I haven't been watching for a long time.

Ruzzia sluggishly advancing in the donbas - unable to take Chasiv Yar - which tells you a lot of their real power. Ukraine has 10.000 men in Kursk and opposition is extremely weak and unmotivated. Ruzzian conscripts and soldiers are treated correctly, so they rather surrender than go back and get shot by their own troops, namely the Tik-Tok fighters from Chechenia.

There is a high chance that a large area south of the Seim River is unsupplied and may easily fall in Ukrainian hands. Loses are nothing spectacular, there are news of new settlements taken by Ukraine every day. Some of them are relatively big.


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How are the successes at the front in Ukraine? I haven't been watching for a long time.

Russia taking its time as main goal is to kill as many nazis without risking their won soldiers.
They also let Ukraine advance in Kursk so they could sell this war more easy in Russia,
while encircling and killing as many ukronazis there, too

Example of Ukronazi:

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