UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season

[MarjorieZimmermanGinger]

I see that Liverpool is very different this season, they are very ambitious in the Champions League because Liverpool performance statistics cannot be equated with their performance in the Domestic league. facing real madrid is quite difficult for liverpool but they can give many surprises at the meeting later, Kloop has a long experience in the Champions League, of course he can bring Liverpool to qualify for the next round, Cody Gakpo is expected to bring big changes to liverpool in the Champions league and Domestic League. It is believed that Gakpo presence will make Liverpool stronger again and can be an ideal partner for Mohamed Salah.

The last few meetings between the two teams, Liverpool have always had trouble keeping up with Real Madrid's game, this should be a point of evaluation that Jurgen Klopp has to do, considering that there are several weak points that Liverpool currently have. Darwin Nunez has not been so optimal in adapting to the Liverpool squad, so it is still quite difficult to develop his game.

Performance in the domestic league is a reference for the quality of Liverpool's play and this season they have experienced a decline, but in my opinion in the Champions League they will go all out, because this is an opportunity to break Real Madrid's consistency in the Champions

Thiago Alcantara and Fabinho have not been among the players who you can say are not good at carrying out their duties as organizers of attacks from midfield. However, Harvey Elliott still needs flight hours because his performance is still inconsistent.
Jurgen Klopp still has Curtis Jones if Henderson cannot be played because in my opinion Curtis's expertise is above Elliott.

But take it easy, Jurgen Klopp can definitely find the right strategy to bring Liverpool to the championship competition, especially in the English Premier League.

Thiago Alcantara and Fabinho are still not consistent in my opinion, they are not strong enough to break the attacks that opposing players try to build. If you watch the last match against Brentford, then there we will see the quality of Thiago and Fabinho, they are always late in deciding the attack that Brentford Players are trying to build.

That's just Brentford, just imagine if Jurgen Klopp didn't find the right strategy against Real Madrid, then Thiago Alcantara and Fabinho would have quite a hard time carrying out their duties as attack organizers and deciding the attacks Real Madrid players were trying to build.

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[samcoin]

Graham Potter actually took over Chelsea in a bad place.  It was a bit of his bad luck.  Dortmund is an opponent they can knock out.  Their situation in the league is not encouraging.  However, let's not forget that they were not in a very good position in the league the year they won the champions league, with a little luck, they can show success in the champions league again.

With the performance they are showing in EPL, I doubt they are able to qualify for next season of CL so the only chance they have is to win the CL this season which is very difficult in my opinion as there are many strong competitors, Dortmund is probably the easiest one. From other side, the main factor that attributed to their winning of 2021 CL was their coach Thomas Tuchel who is no longer the coach.

[Silence Scream]

Graham Potter actually took over Chelsea in a bad place.  It was a bit of his bad luck.  Dortmund is an opponent they can knock out.  Their situation in the league is not encouraging.  However, let's not forget that they were not in a very good position in the league the year they won the champions league, with a little luck, they can show success in the champions league again.

With the performance they are showing in EPL, I doubt they are able to qualify for next season of CL so the only chance they have is to win the CL this season which is very difficult in my opinion as there are many strong competitors, Dortmund is probably the easiest one. From other side, the main factor that attributed to their winning of 2021 CL was their coach Thomas Tuchel who is no longer the coach.

Tuchel really added a different atmosphere to the team.  Now that we look at it, I am also skeptical of Graham Potter's performance.  They play pretty bad games in the league.  Yesterday they lost to City at home.  They can get back-to-back defeats.  I don't think their goal is to win the championship at UCL this year.  Also, even if they can beat Dortmund, it will be a success.  Dortmund is a very strong opponent.

[rahmad2nd]

Graham Potter actually took over Chelsea in a bad place.  It was a bit of his bad luck.  Dortmund is an opponent they can knock out.  Their situation in the league is not encouraging.  However, let's not forget that they were not in a very good position in the league the year they won the champions league, with a little luck, they can show success in the champions league again.

As a coach, a big challenge when getting an offer to become a manager in a big team. I think Potter knows very well the risks if he takes the offer. however, of course he also wants to work and measure his ability to what extent he can bring Chelsea in a better direction.

Unfortunately, Chelsea is a team that is having some internal problems. some of the players who were injured. also, the team's underperforming performance since under Tuchel's tutelage at the start of this season. not an easy start for any coach, even if Zinedine Zidane coaches, it is not certain that he will also be able to immediately bring Chelsea to a better direction. because of that, it didn't seem like he was interested in coaching a team that was in trouble.
so, let's just see how far Potter can bring Chelsea in a better direction, especially against Dortmund in the round of 16 later.

[Fakhrulenclix]

Graham Potter actually took over Chelsea in a bad place.  It was a bit of his bad luck.  Dortmund is an opponent they can knock out.  Their situation in the league is not encouraging.  However, let's not forget that they were not in a very good position in the league the year they won the champions league, with a little luck, they can show success in the champions league again.

With the performance they are showing in EPL, I doubt they are able to qualify for next season of CL so the only chance they have is to win the CL this season which is very difficult in my opinion as there are many strong competitors, Dortmund is probably the easiest one. From other side, the main factor that attributed to their winning of 2021 CL was their coach Thomas Tuchel who is no longer the coach.

Tuchel really added a different atmosphere to the team.  Now that we look at it, I am also skeptical of Graham Potter's performance.  They play pretty bad games in the league.  Yesterday they lost to City at home.  They can get back-to-back defeats.  I don't think their goal is to win the championship at UCL this year.  Also, even if they can beat Dortmund, it will be a success.  Dortmund is a very strong opponent.

actually Dortmund this season is also not very strong but Chelsea is also experiencing the same thing and even worse, a team that changes coaches in the middle of a trip, of course, does not set high targets, especially on the European stage.

as they are currently experiencing in the Premier League, the results they are getting are quite bad, since Graham Potter has handled Chelsea there has been no consistent improvement, quite the opposite.

and for Chelsea in the UCL this season I very much doubt they can go further, against DOrtmund they will not be seeded to qualify even though the two teams have the same percentage to be able to beat each other in my opinion.

[Alanaz]

Graham Potter actually took over Chelsea in a bad place.  It was a bit of his bad luck.  Dortmund is an opponent they can knock out.  Their situation in the league is not encouraging.  However, let's not forget that they were not in a very good position in the league the year they won the champions league, with a little luck, they can show success in the champions league again.

With the performance they are showing in EPL, I doubt they are able to qualify for next season of CL so the only chance they have is to win the CL this season which is very difficult in my opinion as there are many strong competitors, Dortmund is probably the easiest one. From other side, the main factor that attributed to their winning of 2021 CL was their coach Thomas Tuchel who is no longer the coach.

The circumstances where they won the Champions League and now are very different circumstances, and if it is said they will return to Champions League success with any luck, are they going to rely on luck in every game they play? it's funny i think.
Graham Potter took over at Chelsea in a slump, that's true, but in his hands I haven't seen the consistent change from his early days in charge of this team.

[piebeyb]

Graham Potter actually took over Chelsea in a bad place.  It was a bit of his bad luck.  Dortmund is an opponent they can knock out.  Their situation in the league is not encouraging.  However, let's not forget that they were not in a very good position in the league the year they won the champions league, with a little luck, they can show success in the champions league again.

With the performance they are showing in EPL, I doubt they are able to qualify for next season of CL so the only chance they have is to win the CL this season which is very difficult in my opinion as there are many strong competitors, Dortmund is probably the easiest one. From other side, the main factor that attributed to their winning of 2021 CL was their coach Thomas Tuchel who is no longer the coach.

Chelsea's performance in the EPL is indeed so bad that it's impossible for people to think Chelsea can win the UCL this season even against Dortmund, I think it will be difficult for Chelsea to overcome that to win, I think Chelsea need new players to restore faith in their club

[hd49728]

actually Dortmund this season is also not very strong but Chelsea is also experiencing the same thing and even worse, a team that changes coaches in the middle of a trip, of course, does not set high targets, especially on the European stage.

Their conditions and forms are nearly the same. They have bad forms in their national leagues and they have many players in hospitals, recovery phases and are not ready to return. They are standing in middle of their national league tables and on the risk to fall under a first half of their league table too.

as they are currently experiencing in the Premier League, the results they are getting are quite bad, since Graham Potter has handled Chelsea there has been no consistent improvement, quite the opposite.

and for Chelsea in the UCL this season I very much doubt they can go further, against DOrtmund they will not be seeded to qualify even though the two teams have the same percentage to be able to beat each other in my opinion.

Chelsea are bigger club than Dortmund but their problems are not small. Potter came to replace Tuchel but many foundations in the club have yet changed after a few months. When foundations are not changed but something even become worse with play injuries, Potter is in a worse condition than Tuchel.

Champions League matches with Dortmund will decide Potter to stay or to leave Chelsea in this season. If they win Dortmund and go far in Champions League, Potter will have chance to stay until the season ending and might be given another chance to continue next season.

If Chelsea fail against Dortmund and have to leave Champions League too soon, the exit gate for Potter in Stamford Bridge would be very opened for him.

[rendravolt]

In my opinion, Chelsea made a huge mistake sacking Thomas Tuchel at the beginning of the season. It is true that the team was struggling at the moment and needed some changes to the situation. Thomas Tuchel should have been given more time after all he has proven to be worthy winning the league abd the champions league, he deserved to be given that benefit of doubt that he could still turn things around.

The Chelsea side were too hasty about a change of coach and the result is they are now falling deeper into the regular league. I'm not attacking Potter, but I think Graham Potter is the worst coach replacement at the moment, we know he doesn't even have any experience other than coaching Brighton and several other small teams, while Thomas Tuchel has already given Chelsea the UCL title and several trophies at big clubs others he has coached. I'm not sure Chelsea can qualify for this top 16 phase, considering that they always appear with poor performances.

It's not right to make hasty decisions about Potter.  He may not have much experience, but I think he played successful matches in the teams he managed.  I think he can do better after getting to know the team and in an adaptation period for Chelsea.

It's true that everything needs adaptation and process for every new coach, but when it comes to a big name club like Chelsea, of course, many of their fans don't accept that their favorite club experiences a decline in performance every week. In the regular league competition they are in the middle of the standings and in the UCL competition they have to fight Dortmund in the last 16, Graham potter's homework this season has been very tough.

Graham Potter actually took over Chelsea in a bad place.  It was a bit of his bad luck.  Dortmund is an opponent they can knock out.  Their situation in the league is not encouraging.  However, let's not forget that they were not in a very good position in the league the year they won the champions league, with a little luck, they can show success in the champions league again.

Beat Dortmund? Of course it took a miracle when several Chelsea players were hit by a hurricane of injuries. I'm not sure Chelsea can beat Dortmund easily, but if they're lucky it looks like it could happen. Currently, Dortmund is in 6th place in the regular league, so if you look at the performance of each club, it is a bit even. But what is certain is that there will be one winner in the two legs that will be held later and the winner has the right to secure a ticket to the quarter-finals.

[KTChampions]

Chelsea's performance in the EPL is indeed so bad that it's impossible for people to think Chelsea can win the UCL this season even against Dortmund, I think it will be difficult for Chelsea to overcome that to win, I think Chelsea need new players to restore faith in their club

I used to think that Chelsea looked so bad mainly because the level of competition in the Premier League is outrageous, but now I also doubt that Chelsea is capable of anything. Of course, I will not say that they are clearly weaker than Dortmund (it is still unknown what state this team is in after the break), but now I am sure that Chelsea are not stronger.

[Fara Chan]

Graham Potter actually took over Chelsea in a bad place.  It was a bit of his bad luck.  Dortmund is an opponent they can knock out.  Their situation in the league is not encouraging.  However, let's not forget that they were not in a very good position in the league the year they won the champions league, with a little luck, they can show success in the champions league again.

A little doubtful that Chelsea will be easy against Dortmund, in fact Dortmund have not appeared very strong this season, but the current situation for these two teams is equally bad this season, this season Chelsea did not perform as well as when they won the champions league, significant changes have changed Chelsea this season, and since Chelsea under Tuchel's tutelage I think a lot of the team's performance has decreased.
Now Graham Potter has replaced Tuchel and wants to bring/revive Chelsea to the better, but what we've seen is not consistent improvement..

Maybe for this  season I doubt Chelsea will continue to the next round, Chelsea and Dortmund have a balanced percentage of winning their matches in the upcoming matches. In my opinion, in terms of improving the performance of the Chelsea team, they have to get new players who are good in material.
and with some injuries I think it will be difficult for Chelsea to beat Dortmund, unless luck is on Chelsea's side.

[Leviathan.007]

Chelsea's performance in the EPL is indeed so bad that it's impossible for people to think Chelsea can win the UCL this season even against Dortmund, I think it will be difficult for Chelsea to overcome that to win, I think Chelsea need new players to restore faith in their club

I used to think that Chelsea looked so bad mainly because the level of competition in the Premier League is outrageous, but now I also doubt that Chelsea is capable of anything. Of course, I will not say that they are clearly weaker than Dortmund (it is still unknown what state this team is in after the break), but now I am sure that Chelsea are not stronger.

The thing about these two clubs Chelsea and Dortmund is both are not famous clubs and these two teams are not in their best shape and both are not in a good situation in their league so we cannot say if Dortmund is weaker than Chelsea or not however due to the recent games and the atmosphere in both clubs I can say Chelsea can have more chance because in Chelsea they are usually fighting for the first place in their league and even champion league while Dortmund could never perform like this.

[shinratensei_]

Chelsea's performance in the EPL is indeed so bad that it's impossible for people to think Chelsea can win the UCL this season even against Dortmund, I think it will be difficult for Chelsea to overcome that to win, I think Chelsea need new players to restore faith in their club

I used to think that Chelsea looked so bad mainly because the level of competition in the Premier League is outrageous, but now I also doubt that Chelsea is capable of anything. Of course, I will not say that they are clearly weaker than Dortmund (it is still unknown what state this team is in after the break), but now I am sure that Chelsea are not stronger.

I don't think so. Chelsea has so many over rated players which already bought since last years but potter were not able to make them got their best performance again. The problem that happened with chelsea is the team was always rushing to buy the  new player without even consider about how important such player to the club. i don't know what's wrong with chelsea but the team has been getting the worst performance.
Dortmund is even more favourable in this match. The inconsistency that already showed by chelsea has been triggering so many questions to the club.
Dortmund in so many advantage against chelsea. that will be so good for the team

[BitcoinAccepted]

Chelsea - Dortmund seems to me to be a match in which Chelsea is the favourite. Rankings in the leagues don't mean much as the league in England as a whole is much stronger, especially at the top. Dortmund does have a chance to continue, but must watch out that it does not run into a major defeat in the first game. Haaler seems to be able to work on his recovery, but he will not be fit and energetic enough to participate for the time being. AC Milan - Tottenham also seems like a 50-50 match if it is played in Milan. I rate Tottenham a bit higher in 2 matches, but they are not playing the best football at the moment.

[Daniel91]

In my opinion, Chelsea made a huge mistake sacking Thomas Tuchel at the beginning of the season. It is true that the team was struggling at the moment and needed some changes to the situation. Thomas Tuchel should have been given more time after all he has proven to be worthy winning the league abd the champions league, he deserved to be given that benefit of doubt that he could still turn things around.

The Chelsea side were too hasty about a change of coach and the result is they are now falling deeper into the regular league. I'm not attacking Potter, but I think Graham Potter is the worst coach replacement at the moment, we know he doesn't even have any experience other than coaching Brighton and several other small teams, while Thomas Tuchel has already given Chelsea the UCL title and several trophies at big clubs others he has coached. I'm not sure Chelsea can qualify for this top 16 phase, considering that they always appear with poor performances.

It's not right to make hasty decisions about Potter.  He may not have much experience, but I think he played successful matches in the teams he managed.  I think he can do better after getting to know the team and in an adaptation period for Chelsea.

It's true that everything needs adaptation and process for every new coach, but when it comes to a big name club like Chelsea, of course, many of their fans don't accept that their favorite club experiences a decline in performance every week. In the regular league competition they are in the middle of the standings and in the UCL competition they have to fight Dortmund in the last 16, Graham potter's homework this season has been very tough.

Graham Potter actually took over Chelsea in a bad place.  It was a bit of his bad luck.  Dortmund is an opponent they can knock out.  Their situation in the league is not encouraging.  However, let's not forget that they were not in a very good position in the league the year they won the champions league, with a little luck, they can show success in the champions league again.

Honestly, I think it was a very good decision by the Chelsea manager to fire Tuchel and bring in a new coach, Potter.
Do you remember how Chelsea started the new season and how they played in the opening games of the Champions League?
I watched them in the first game against Dinamo in Zagreb and they really played very badly and lost, against the weakest team in their Champions League group.
They played without any organization and a clear game plan and after the first 2 rounds they were in last place in their Champions League group.
Their season was saved by the arrival of new coach Potter because after that Chelsea finally played at a much higher level and won all the remaining Champions League games and won first place in the group.
If Potter hadn't become a coach, we wouldn't be watching Chelsea in the Champions League, but in the European League, and that's a fact.
I believe they have a good chance against Dortmund because the Germans also have a lot of problems this season.

[MAAManda]

Chelsea - Dortmund seems to me to be a match in which Chelsea is the favourite. Rankings in the leagues don't mean much as the league in England as a whole is much stronger, especially at the top. Dortmund does have a chance to continue, but must watch out that it does not run into a major defeat in the first game. Haaler seems to be able to work on his recovery, but he will not be fit and energetic enough to participate for the time being.

There is still about 1 month left until we see the first leg matches in the UCL, that is, we cannot yet know which teams have the potential to advance to the next round, maybe at this time you can say that Chelsea is more favourite, but what about the next 2 or 3 weeks? We never know what will happen in the future, maybe Chelsea's important players will get injured later (before the first leg match against Borussia Dortmund). This also applies to other teams.

So, it would be a pointless discussion if we discussed this before the match was actually going to start (IMO).

[lizarder]

I don't see any problem in attacking side of PSG team. Messi joined the team after winning the World Cup, hope Messi will play well in the next matches and Mbappe and Neymar will support him well. However, PSG's defense has some serious problems, if they are corrected, their team will be very strong.

It seems that no one doubts PSG's attack line, instead we see the performances of Lionel Messi, Neymar and Kylian Mbappe are in their best playing condition at the moment. I just want Christophe Galtier to make a few formation changes against Bayern Munich to overcome their current weak point and it seems that defense is also an evaluation material that the coach must think about, so that they can maximize their Intercept against Bayern Munich

A slight overhaul of Lionel Messi's position will make PSG sharper in building attacks, in my opinion placing Lionel Messi slightly below Neymar and Kylian Mbappe will be more optimal in attacking and controlling the game, because Lionel Messi has an advantage in dribbling before giving measurable passes or before scoring

[hahay]

Chelsea - Dortmund seems to me to be a match in which Chelsea is the favourite. Rankings in the leagues don't mean much as the league in England as a whole is much stronger, especially at the top. Dortmund does have a chance to continue, but must watch out that it does not run into a major defeat in the first game. Haaler seems to be able to work on his recovery, but he will not be fit and energetic enough to participate for the time being.

There is still about 1 month left until we see the first leg matches in the UCL, that is, we cannot yet know which teams have the potential to advance to the next round, maybe at this time you can say that Chelsea is more favourite, but what about the next 2 or 3 weeks? We never know what will happen in the future, maybe Chelsea's important players will get injured later (before the first leg match against Borussia Dortmund). This also applies to other teams.

So, it would be a pointless discussion if we discussed this before the match was actually going to start (IMO).

What's more, so far the Bundesliga teams have not resumed their matches after the break, so at least and maybe they will get better stamina. Therefore, at this moment, we cannot be completely sure which team will win.
Because after all, Chelsea is also so far after the season resumed after the World Cup break. In fact, Chelsea is also not very good in many factors and not only in their gameplay and performance but also in their renewed management.

With Chelsea still not improving so far, at least I assume that Chelsea is indeed in a period of overhaul from many factors.
So yes, the result of a victory for Chelsea over Dortmund still cannot be something certain but that does not mean that Dortmund will win, because these two teams are also in a situation and condition that is not good this season.

[izsara]

I think it was suspected that Tuchel's dismissal was not a result problem but an internal problem between Todd and Tuchel, indeed when the officials said to expel the coach, Tuchel could not do anything to defend himself at that time.

Their current condition is still not possible but after a number of new players have joined this possibility will be a differentiator, hopefully it will be like that because the players they have transferred this time are quite good, moreover it is the position they need in the attack line.

Chelsea team is currently playing well. They have a great XI. Despite losing to Manchester City, they put up a great fight. But currently they are going to add Argentina's Enzo Fernandez to the team in exchange of a lot of money. But I think it will not be very good to spend so much money on it.

What do you say? At the moment Chelsea are looking good? You are joking with this because if they perform well it is impossible now for them to be thrown into 10th place in the EPL standings.
As for Enzo, the latest news says that Chelsea and Benfica have not met common ground in an agreement because Chelsea does not want to pay the expenditure clause and Chelsea's offer has been rejected by Benfica at this time.

[dezoel]

There is still about 1 month left until we see the first leg matches in the UCL, that is, we cannot yet know which teams have the potential to advance to the next round, maybe at this time you can say that Chelsea is more favourite, but what about the next 2 or 3 weeks? We never know what will happen in the future, maybe Chelsea's important players will get injured later (before the first leg match against Borussia Dortmund). This also applies to other teams.

So, it would be a pointless discussion if we discussed this before the match was actually going to start (IMO).

Here I agreed with your all point we still have nearly one more month for this match with after break we have few changes in teams as well which are having impact on their performance as well so talking who is going to win is completely useless specially in current situation while Chelsea is also suffering badly after break with one lost and one draw mean they also need to fix few issues which are creating troubles for them in defense, and they are not able to have goals from their attackers as well which is also the biggest concern for them in this season.

Dortmund is out of the play as after 13th November they are on break and still have two weeks for their first game after break which will give some better view about their performance and strategy after break because they also need improvement for the better results at the end of this season.