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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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February 06, 2023, 11:38:51 PM
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no doubt Tottenham are in good form but i feel this game against ac milan will be a totally different atmosphere as long as the champions league is concerned  teams can perform with a totally different spirit in the champions league and i think ac milan will do every possible best to make sure they secure a win on the first leg match up with Tottenham as they will be playing from home on their first leg match and looking at Tottenham Hotspur with this kind of stats, i feel the match is going to be very tough for both teams.
I think even though Milan are playing quite badly in the domestic league, when they are in the UCL competition it will definitely be very different from what has been seen so far. And I think Spurs have to be wary of Milan in the first leg, because of course Milan have lost hope of competing with Napoli in the domestic league but they still have a chance in the UCL, so they will play it out in that.
I agree, even with Tottenham beating Man City and Ac Milan's bad form, I'm definitely betting on Ac milan in this one, it's very true that things are different from. a league to a trophy like the champions league, and I can definitely see Ac milan going through Tottenham in their battle, I know a lot of people will look at their forms and go with Tottenham so I'm going against their prediction here.

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February 07, 2023, 12:57:01 AM
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Both clubs unexpectedly lost their games, but I would say that these are very different defeats. Real Madrid maintain a good percentage of points scored, while Liverpool falls deeper and is currently even outside the European competition area. They have a game in hand, but it can also turn not into three points, but into something worse  Grin
In general, I continue to consider Real as a favorite in this pair.
I also think that Real Madrid are the favorites in the Champions League over Liverpool. Real Madrid has good chance to win the match and qualify for the quarter-finals even though they are both in bit of bad form recently. Liverpool have been appear substandard all season even if they did well in the Champions League group stages, but at least I can hope nothing changes from Liverpool regarding their form and they should be out of the Champions League in this round of 16.

Apart from Real Madrid being the champions last season, they are the most experienced team in this competition so the mentality can still be expected. Real Madrid's performance has always been good in the Champions League even though they could have lost and failed this season.

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February 07, 2023, 01:26:00 AM
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I don't have much expectation from Liverpool from now on truthfully. Because they don't give anything positive to us to rely on.
Yeah, seeing the result from several matches on EPL didn't even make me feel confident with it.

It was losing against brighton and then wolves. That was also making klopp's position in the crisis. UCL will become the most important match that will determine klopp's fate. FSG may try to use the result from UCL as an evaluation to determine klopp's fate in liverpool.

I would not be surprised if klopp will be sacked once liverpool lose against real madrid in UCL.

I know that Liverpool were still bad in the Premier League while they were doing a great job in the Champions League group stage. However Liverpool still can't improve their performance now. Injuries are also a factor in this of course because they have some important players missing still - like Diaz and Firmino. If they were able to play things might have been better for Liverpool. Maybe they are bad at defending but at least they could have strengthened their attacking area.
This time liverpool is not performing as well as usual. The bad performance in EPL will be greatly affecting the performance of liverpool in UCL. I can take the result from two matches against brighton and wolves gave a significant impact to the liverpool.

Nunez and gakpo have become failed transfers by liverpool. Im glad to see that aurelien tchouameni was waiting for madrid rather than decided move to the liverpool.

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February 07, 2023, 01:39:51 AM
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I know that Liverpool were still bad in the Premier League while they were doing a great job in the Champions League group stage. However Liverpool still can't improve their performance now. Injuries are also a factor in this of course because they have some important players missing still - like Diaz and Firmino. If they were able to play things might have been better for Liverpool. Maybe they are bad at defending but at least they could have strengthened their attacking area.
This time liverpool is not performing as well as usual. The bad performance in EPL will be greatly affecting the performance of liverpool in UCL. I can take the result from two matches against brighton and wolves gave a significant impact to the liverpool.

Nunez and gakpo have become failed transfers by liverpool. Im glad to see that aurelien tchouameni was waiting for madrid rather than decided move to the liverpool.

Nunez and Gakpo are young talented players. They have been recruited into the team after long planning. Now these two players are not playing well. They are also missing out on easy opportunities. As they gradually become more experienced, their performance may stabilize. But Liverpool's match strategy also has problems with Jurgen Klopp not doing his job properly.

Perhaps Liverpool is still missing Sadio Mane. Liverpool's biggest mistake this season was deciding to sell Mane without finding a suitable replacement. And because of this mistake, Liverpool's situation is still unstable.

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February 07, 2023, 03:17:03 AM
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Nunez and Gakpo are young talented players. They have been recruited into the team after long planning. Now these two players are not playing well. They are also missing out on easy opportunities. As they gradually become more experienced, their performance may stabilize. But Liverpool's match strategy also has problems with Jurgen Klopp not doing his job properly.
They are young players and can sharpen their skills more but with their expensive transfers especially Nunez, pressure on their shoulders is huge. They must over come this as soon as possible and at least they must improve to have acceptable performance for Liverpool. It is helpful for the club and for themselves to get rid of noise and pressure from media which can impact their career in Liverpool.

I don't expect Nunez and Gakpo succeed in this season because it is not common to see new players can have success in their first seasons in Premier League. A next season will be better to assess their performance for Liverpool.

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Perhaps Liverpool is still missing Sadio Mane. Liverpool's biggest mistake this season was deciding to sell Mane without finding a suitable replacement. And because of this mistake, Liverpool's situation is still unstable.
Life is always changing and players come and go including Mane. Liverpool likely are missing Mane now but they must come through it and aim at future with other players.

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February 07, 2023, 03:44:57 AM
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It's a normal thing for a decline in the firm of a team, as we all know Liverpool has been a major force in the league for some time now, so as a top thing even when things are not going the right way for you , you should fight and get back if not to your level then maybe something close to it,  this Liverpool side I don't know their problem they still have good players, sadio mane left and they made incredible signings in Darwin Nunez and Gakpo upfront playing with one of the best player in the league in person on mo Salah, so why are the goals not coming, in defence they have virgil van dijk so I don't know, or might it be that the players have lost it in the manager? , Or or its time for Jürgen Klopp to call it an end , I just believe this Liverpool side needs a new management and if they don't act fast they might end the season at the second half of the table.
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It's a normal thing for a decline in the firm of a team, as we all know Liverpool has been a major force in the league for some time now, so as a top thing even when things are not going the right way for you , you should fight and get back if not to your level then maybe something close to it,  this Liverpool side I don't know their problem they still have good players, sadio mane left and they made incredible signings in Darwin Nunez and Gakpo upfront playing with one of the best player in the league in person on mo Salah, so why are the goals not coming, in defence they have virgil van dijk so I don't know, or might it be that the players have lost it in the manager? , Or or its time for Jürgen Klopp to call it an end , I just believe this Liverpool side needs a new management and if they don't act fast they might end the season at the second half of the table.

@KipaCrypto I have said it multiple time’s and I’ll say it again that Klopp should go, his decision not to retain Mane was a foolish one and so far it’s clear to see that the team is not responding to his tactics hence the board should act now. Lastly I believe that Liverpool’s board could target Tuchel or Poch as these two are currently available, and I’m sure either one of them can revive Liverpool and help them dominate the champions league and premier league again.
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February 07, 2023, 04:02:03 AM
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It's a normal thing for a decline in the firm of a team, as we all know Liverpool has been a major force in the league for some time now, so as a top thing even when things are not going the right way for you , you should fight and get back if not to your level then maybe something close to it,  this Liverpool side I don't know their problem they still have good players, sadio mane left and they made incredible signings in Darwin Nunez and Gakpo upfront playing with one of the best player in the league in person on mo Salah, so why are the goals not coming, in defence they have virgil van dijk so I don't know, or might it be that the players have lost it in the manager? , Or or its time for Jürgen Klopp to call it an end , I just believe this Liverpool side needs a new management and if they don't act fast they might end the season at the second half of the table.

I don't think nunez and takpo are good recruits. Both of these players are overrated players. people will say if both are new players in liverpool and those will need time to develop. If we look at the many matches played by the two, especially nunez. We can conclude that both were panic transfers. Therefore, I think that if the nunez should be replaced immediately. I mean if nunez's performance is really bad. Missed many golden opportunities to help the club from losing or drawing. It's only fitting that the nunez should be replaced. The performance of the gakpo itself is no less bad than nunez. Im thinking about klopp potentially to be sacked by FSG. There are so many rumors about FSG wanna try to sack klopp once klopp didn't give good results in upcoming match especially champion league.

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February 07, 2023, 04:16:55 AM
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@KipaCrypto I have said it multiple time’s and I’ll say it again that Klopp should go, his decision not to retain Mane was a foolish one and so far it’s clear to see that the team is not responding to his tactics hence the board should act now. Lastly I believe that Liverpool’s board could target Tuchel or Poch as these two are currently available, and I’m sure either one of them can revive Liverpool and help them dominate the champions league and premier league again.
Was it just because of Mane, or was it coincidental since Mane left for Bayern Munich?
I don't think Liverpool's bad form this season is due to Mane leaving for Bayern, that's not the only reason in my opinion.
I assume that overall Liverpool have dropped this season and it's not just about their strikers. Players' injury problems have damaged their form, while the new arrivals have not been able to prove their best so far.

Liverpool need really good midfielder to push more power in midfield instead of being so focused on improving attack. The proof is, since Darwin Nunez and Gakpo filled Liverpool's line-up, they weren't really able to contribute much to victory. Is it because of Klopp's incompetence, I think that's bad reason too.

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February 07, 2023, 04:54:26 AM
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Was it just because of Mane, or was it coincidental since Mane left for Bayern Munich?
I don't think Liverpool's bad form this season is due to Mane leaving for Bayern, that's not the only reason in my opinion.
It is not only because of Mane departure to Bayern Munich. His departure is one of reasons but not only and not all reasons.

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I assume that overall Liverpool have dropped this season and it's not just about their strikers. Players' injury problems have damaged their form, while the new arrivals have not been able to prove their best so far.
The past long and very ambitious season has negative impacts on many Liverpool players. They were exhausted and not ready for this season with poorer performances and some got injuries too. World Cup 2022 is hosted in December makes it worse for Liverpool when many players came back to the club with tired bodies and mentality.

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Liverpool need really good midfielder to push more power in midfield instead of being so focused on improving attack. The proof is, since Darwin Nunez and Gakpo filled Liverpool's line-up, they weren't really able to contribute much to victory. Is it because of Klopp's incompetence, I think that's bad reason too.
It is time for Liverpool to think of what they will do at the end of season. Start with a coach position of Klopp first, will they determinantly use him in next seasons or will look for another coach? They must think of it as soon as possible to have good preparation in the summer. If they wait for the season ending to start thinking about it, it is too late.

Personally I support Klopp to stay in Liverpool at least one more season. If he can not improve the club performance in the next season, he should leave.
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February 07, 2023, 06:52:31 AM
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Both clubs unexpectedly lost their games, but I would say that these are very different defeats. Real Madrid maintain a good percentage of points scored, while Liverpool falls deeper and is currently even outside the European competition area. They have a game in hand, but it can also turn not into three points, but into something worse  Grin
In general, I continue to consider Real as a favorite in this pair.
I also think that Real Madrid are the favorites in the Champions League over Liverpool. Real Madrid has good chance to win the match and qualify for the quarter-finals even though they are both in bit of bad form recently. Liverpool have been appear substandard all season even if they did well in the Champions League group stages, but at least I can hope nothing changes from Liverpool regarding their form and they should be out of the Champions League in this round of 16.

Apart from Real Madrid being the champions last season, they are the most experienced team in this competition so the mentality can still be expected. Real Madrid's performance has always been good in the Champions League even though they could have lost and failed this season.
I totally agree with you that Real Madrid has a great shot of winning the Champions League and moving on. Having the attitude and experience of a champion team from the previous season is a major asset. Bettors and oddsmakers' forecasts for the game should also be considered. You said Liverpool has underwhelmed this season, however it's worth noting that the odds are 2.3 for Liverpool to win the match while they are 3.0 for Real Madrid. This might indicate that bookies consider Liverpool to be an underdog with a fighting chance of winning.

But anything may happen on game day, and the chances are simply estimates. Liverpool might possibly be underperforming at home but have the ability to bring their exciting football to the Champions League. No matter what happens, I know this will be a thrilling contest to watch. Liverpool might perhaps prove everyone wrong in the Champions League.

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February 07, 2023, 06:56:44 AM
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Milan can't suddenly start being a great team in UCL just because they are losing in the league. I mean they are not doing that great right now and they won't do anything good in UCL neither, that is not going to happen, that is going to be a problem for them.

Doesn't mean they can't beat Spurs, there is a good chance that they could beat Spurs and that could happen, but that doesn't change the fact that we will see them do even better afterwards, the best they can do will be beating Spurs, after that, unless they get a very very lucky draw from a much smaller team, they are going to lose, and there is a big possibility that they will lose to Spurs as well.

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February 07, 2023, 07:44:11 AM
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Im feeling worry about city. There are some problems that have been facing by the club.

- Numerous allegations being made by premier league to the city caused by city was doing shady things since 2008-2018
- Some players will be leaving the club caused of the bad condition that is faced by the club.
- It has been rumored that pep will be leaving from city as well
- Degradation is also waiting for manchester city

Those things will be giving leipzig so many advantages. City was facing very big problems now. I doubt if it can be solved as soon as possible. I think that anyone shall consider it before try to bet on city. This club has so many problems.

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February 07, 2023, 09:33:12 AM
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Im feeling worry about city. There are some problems that have been facing by the club.

- Numerous allegations being made by premier league to the city caused by city was doing shady things since 2008-2018
- Some players will be leaving the club caused of the bad condition that is faced by the club.
- It has been rumored that pep will be leaving from city as well
- Degradation is also waiting for manchester city

Those things will be giving leipzig so many advantages. City was facing very big problems now. I doubt if it can be solved as soon as possible. I think that anyone shall consider it before try to bet on city. This club has so many problems.
It's really a major issue and I read on few articles the punishment might be bigger than Juventus, Juventus was get 15 points deduction, to be honest it's really big enough since it will make Manchester City is high likely can't become a champion.

Manchester City players are mostly best of the best players, it's really a huge lose if they will leave since it will hurt Manchester City next journey.

I hope it's just a point deductions, at least Manchester City have a chance to win in Champions and FA Cup.
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February 07, 2023, 09:36:09 AM
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Milan can't suddenly start being a great team in UCL just because they are losing in the league. I mean they are not doing that great right now and they won't do anything good in UCL neither, that is not going to happen, that is going to be a problem for them.

Doesn't mean they can't beat Spurs, there is a good chance that they could beat Spurs and that could happen, but that doesn't change the fact that we will see them do even better afterwards, the best they can do will be beating Spurs, after that, unless they get a very very lucky draw from a much smaller team, they are going to lose, and there is a big possibility that they will lose to Spurs as well.

Spurs are a tough opponent, but also equal with Milan. unfortunately, currently Milan is in a bad situation. Milan's performance will be doubted when going through the match against Tottenham, even though in the first leg Milan will play the match as the home team. but with the situation that occurred in the domestic league, plus several core players who were injured. Naturally, if Milan is not the favorite in the match later. but at least Pioli has said that he and his team will prepare as best they can. So, Milan's only advantage in such an unstable condition is playing at home in the first leg. for sure, Pioli's men's squad will have to take advantage of the momentum later.

Conversely, the Spurs situation is also not in its best form. in fact, they slipped several times in their domestic league. even so, it seems Spurs are better prepared when facing Milan at the San Siro later. at least, Conte will take advantage of his very familiar experience with Serie A teams. So, let's just wait because this match will start soon in the next few weeks.

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February 07, 2023, 12:10:48 PM
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A draw could also be a possibility in this match. They are 2 teams that both want to play football and score goals. But on Tuesday we also have the game AC Milan - Tottenham Hotspur. The English are the favorite in this game, in Milan it will be 50-50 but in 2 games I expect Tottenham to continue. I think the weakest teams in 1 match are those of the Benfica-Club Brugge match. A favorable draw for both. Benfica was also doing well in the CL last year. The coach of Bruges was fired a few weeks ago due to disappointing results in the competition. But winning the group in the CL apparently has no value anymore. Strange.
I'm not too sure about Benfica match which is likely to be a draw, so far in the domestic league Benfica in a good performance they have a better record rather than Club Brugge, also PSG previously very difficult in the Champions League when against Benfica. So my opinion Benfica possibility will be able to win in that first Leg match very well, but for Milan vs Tottenham Spurs I can't think for now because Milan is in a bad performance in Serie A.
Im even feeling doubt if brugge can force benfica to play draw against it. Benfica has been dominating the domestic league. No reason for benfica to lose against a weak team like brugge. Brugge's performance is not as good as benfica. It can be seen from how many draws achieved by brugge. It seems benfica will be winning the game easily against brugge. I see that if in this match i shall go all in to the benfica. The match is easy to predict.
Benfica is good in everything compared with brugge. Brugge may lose with big scores at first leg.
I don't think Club Brugge is a weak team, they also have a good solid defense, so this match is possibility to be very interesting. Club Brugge have the advantage of being the home team, I think that will motivate the squad to show a good performance in front of their fans. So this match is still not easy for Benfica, they have to play more seriously against Club Brugge to get a better score at there.
Club Brugge is underrated team in champion league but surprisingly they can able to qualified and on group stage many people will predict Club Brugge will finish at the bottom of standings group because they were in the same group with Atletico Madrid and Leverkusen but they can overturn people's predictions and qualifed to round of 16

And their opponent for next stage is Benfica and on the paper obviously Benfica will be overcomes them and although Benfica has just lost their important player Enzo Fernandez who moved to Chelsea but it doesn't any effect for their performance and judging from the recent performance between these teams i feel like Benfica will be able to beat Club Brugge

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@KipaCrypto I have said it multiple time’s and I’ll say it again that Klopp should go, his decision not to retain Mane was a foolish one and so far it’s clear to see that the team is not responding to his tactics hence the board should act now. Lastly I believe that Liverpool’s board could target Tuchel or Poch as these two are currently available, and I’m sure either one of them can revive Liverpool and help them dominate the champions league and premier league again.
Was it just because of Mane, or was it coincidental since Mane left for Bayern Munich?
I don't think Liverpool's bad form this season is due to Mane leaving for Bayern, that's not the only reason in my opinion.
I assume that overall Liverpool have dropped this season and it's not just about their strikers. Players' injury problems have damaged their form, while the new arrivals have not been able to prove their best so far.

Liverpool need really good midfielder to push more power in midfield instead of being so focused on improving attack. The proof is, since Darwin Nunez and Gakpo filled Liverpool's line-up, they weren't really able to contribute much to victory. Is it because of Klopp's incompetence, I think that's bad reason too.
I blame Klopp for not being able to know how important Mane is to his team. Even when he is the coach. He should know the individual ability of the players in his team.
Liverpool problems just started as Mane departed the club and I can also say that it wasn't a coincidence. Assuming Mane is still in Liverpool, the club wouldn't have been suffering what they are suffering now

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February 07, 2023, 01:11:22 PM
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A draw could also be a possibility in this match. They are 2 teams that both want to play football and score goals. But on Tuesday we also have the game AC Milan - Tottenham Hotspur. The English are the favorite in this game, in Milan it will be 50-50 but in 2 games I expect Tottenham to continue. I think the weakest teams in 1 match are those of the Benfica-Club Brugge match. A favorable draw for both. Benfica was also doing well in the CL last year. The coach of Bruges was fired a few weeks ago due to disappointing results in the competition. But winning the group in the CL apparently has no value anymore. Strange.
I'm not too sure about Benfica match which is likely to be a draw, so far in the domestic league Benfica in a good performance they have a better record rather than Club Brugge, also PSG previously very difficult in the Champions League when against Benfica. So my opinion Benfica possibility will be able to win in that first Leg match very well, but for Milan vs Tottenham Spurs I can't think for now because Milan is in a bad performance in Serie A.
Im even feeling doubt if brugge can force benfica to play draw against it. Benfica has been dominating the domestic league. No reason for benfica to lose against a weak team like brugge. Brugge's performance is not as good as benfica. It can be seen from how many draws achieved by brugge. It seems benfica will be winning the game easily against brugge. I see that if in this match i shall go all in to the benfica. The match is easy to predict.
Benfica is good in everything compared with brugge. Brugge may lose with big scores at first leg.
I don't think Club Brugge is a weak team, they also have a good solid defense, so this match is possibility to be very interesting. Club Brugge have the advantage of being the home team, I think that will motivate the squad to show a good performance in front of their fans. So this match is still not easy for Benfica, they have to play more seriously against Club Brugge to get a better score at there.
I think that you shall compare the performance between benfica against brugge. Brugge doesn't have good performance in the local competition. Benfica was leading with very big cap on its local competition. If you are also comparing both based on the statistic and benfica is farr above brugge. I can only take statistic from the local competition caused by either of clubs benfica and brugger never meet in UCL. This is the first time both of club will be facing each other in UCL. i think that benfica has biggest chance to win compared with brugge

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February 07, 2023, 01:21:41 PM
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I blame Klopp for not being able to know how important Mane is to his team. Even when he is the coach. He should know the individual ability of the players in his team.
Liverpool problems just started as Mane departed the club and I can also say that it wasn't a coincidence. Assuming Mane is still in Liverpool, the club wouldn't have been suffering what they are suffering now

it is also because the current squad which is expected to have chemistry like the trio that Liverpool once had will be formed again with new players. and that turned out to be difficult after Mane left Liverpool. it turns out that the impact of Mane's departure was very large. maybe Klopp thinks having Salah is enough. but the truth is he should regret it.
Liverpool is struggling in the Premier League, and facing Madrid in the Champions League is of course a tough game. Liverpool has lacked this season. and it looks sharp compared to last season.


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February 07, 2023, 01:30:18 PM
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It's really a major issue and I read on few articles the punishment might be bigger than Juventus, Juventus was get 15 points deduction, to be honest it's really big enough since it will make Manchester City is high likely can't become a champion.

Manchester City players are mostly best of the best players, it's really a huge lose if they will leave since it will hurt Manchester City next journey.

I hope it's just a point deductions, at least Manchester City have a chance to win in Champions and FA Cup.
Current situation with points deduction are waiting for Manchester City in Primer League after investigating by FA, I hope Manchester City still having consistent performance in Champion League. Have possibility and rumor about Manchester City will get points deduction in Primer League but his participants in Champion League will disqualify or not.

Learned from Juventus 15 points deduction in Serie A not bring impact in Europe League playoff participant, seems Manchester City can focus 100% in Champion League without any punishment although possibility with points deduction in domestic league.

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