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February 12, 2023, 09:48:19 AM
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it's true that PSG will have a very difficult time if Messi and Mbappe are absent in the first leg against Bayern, this weekend in their domestic league PSG lost to Monaco and it was clear that their attack line was not working effectively when left by Mbappe and Messi, Neymar as the main player can't make many changes without the tandem of Messi and Mbappe.
PSG's performance is currently in the spotlight because those who can't be consistent especially when they have to fight Bayern are really very difficult, if you look at the player material that is owned by both teams then the logical percentage is equal opportunity for both teams but if we look at the performance of the two teams in their respective domestic leagues, of course PSG will find it very difficult to qualify for the next round.

If I'm not mistaken, then Messi will play in the match with Bayern, and only Mbappe will miss the game, so it will be easier for Neymar. But I think that Mbappe is the strongest of this trio of strikers, so the attack of PSG will not be complete without him. Bayern looks better if we evaluate teams by the results of the last matches, but it's still a superficial analysis of what the teams are capable of, we will see in the first match on Tuesday in Paris.

It is very natural that there are many who doubt PSG's performance in the round of 16 match later. especially in their last two matches, PSG suffered defeat. without Mbappe, Messi and even Neymar, PSG is not a difficult opponent to be defeated by Bayern later. however, it looks like Messi will be included in the main starting line-up for PSG against Bayern. talking about the match later, we don't know what Galtier will implement, what formation they will use. even if Mabppe has to be absent in the match later, Galtier still has Ekitike's options. but to be honest, I also really doubt PSG's performance against Bayern Munich later.

On the other hand, positive signals are starting to side with the Ngalemanns troop. the reason is, they were able to get out of the downward trend and return to the winning track in their last two matches. meaning, it seems that Bayern Munich is more prepared to face the round of 16 match later than PSG.
maybe, Ngalesmann will take advantage of the momentum in the first leg to be an advantage for them.

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February 12, 2023, 10:09:58 AM
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If I'm not mistaken, then Messi will play in the match with Bayern, and only Mbappe will miss the game, so it will be easier for Neymar. But I think that Mbappe is the strongest of this trio of strikers, so the attack of PSG will not be complete without him. Bayern looks better if we evaluate teams by the results of the last matches, but it's still a superficial analysis of what the teams are capable of, we will see in the first match on Tuesday in Paris.
We don't know will Messi and Mbappe are ready for matches against Bayern or will miss it?

Now we only have rumors that can be disguising strategy from PSG. Nothing has been confirmed yet and we will have to wait until last days before their first leg match in Champions League to have a better guess about ability to play of Messi and Mbappe. Both Mbappe and Messi are very important for PSG attacking system and don't have both of them will be nightmare for PSG.

However, if they have only either Messi or Mbappe, I think it is good enough and it can help them to strengthen their defense capacity with another attacking player who can run more and proactively contribute more for their defense. In Champions League, defense should be first priority, not attacking and we all know PSG have not too good defense ability.

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February 12, 2023, 10:16:25 AM
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it's true that PSG will have a very difficult time if Messi and Mbappe are absent in the first leg against Bayern, this weekend in their domestic league PSG lost to Monaco and it was clear that their attack line was not working effectively when left by Mbappe and Messi, Neymar as the main player can't make many changes without the tandem of Messi and Mbappe.
PSG's performance is currently in the spotlight because those who can't be consistent especially when they have to fight Bayern are really very difficult, if you look at the player material that is owned by both teams then the logical percentage is equal opportunity for both teams but if we look at the performance of the two teams in their respective domestic leagues, of course PSG will find it very difficult to qualify for the next round.

If I'm not mistaken, then Messi will play in the match with Bayern, and only Mbappe will miss the game, so it will be easier for Neymar. But I think that Mbappe is the strongest of this trio of strikers, so the attack of PSG will not be complete without him. Bayern looks better if we evaluate teams by the results of the last matches, but it's still a superficial analysis of what the teams are capable of, we will see in the first match on Tuesday in Paris.
It will be really difficult for PSG without Messi, Mbappe in the team against Bayern Munich. Because they lost the previous match of PSG with a big margin of 3-1. Where Neymar could not do anything.

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February 12, 2023, 10:32:34 AM
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it's true that PSG will have a very difficult time if Messi and Mbappe are absent in the first leg against Bayern, this weekend in their domestic league PSG lost to Monaco and it was clear that their attack line was not working effectively when left by Mbappe and Messi, Neymar as the main player can't make many changes without the tandem of Messi and Mbappe.
PSG's performance is currently in the spotlight because those who can't be consistent especially when they have to fight Bayern are really very difficult, if you look at the player material that is owned by both teams then the logical percentage is equal opportunity for both teams but if we look at the performance of the two teams in their respective domestic leagues, of course PSG will find it very difficult to qualify for the next round.

If I'm not mistaken, then Messi will play in the match with Bayern, and only Mbappe will miss the game, so it will be easier for Neymar. But I think that Mbappe is the strongest of this trio of strikers, so the attack of PSG will not be complete without him. Bayern looks better if we evaluate teams by the results of the last matches, but it's still a superficial analysis of what the teams are capable of, we will see in the first match on Tuesday in Paris.
Mbappe is the best striker PSG has at the moment ,Mbappe present will had more opportunities for PSG. If the these players will be playing the game it will make PSG have more edge against.
 Bayern Munich will always want to make the game tough for PSG.
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February 12, 2023, 10:58:52 AM
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Messi is a play maker, that's why Neymar and Mbappe can score many goals. It's really wrong if you think Messi will not give a huge impact to PSG, Messi almost always score a goal or give an assist in every match.

The first leg will happen on PSG's home, if PSG can't win or make it draw, I'm sure 100% Bayern Munich will win in the second leg.

Just check the odds, PSG is currently become an underdog and the odds is close to @3.00 in money line betting option. I think I would bet PSG since the odds is worth it, PSG will play with their best line up.
Messi's role is indeed very important for PSG's attack line this season and he has always been a key player in every PSG game without exception. But if you check the latest news regarding Messi and Mbappe who are doubtful due to injury and in the first leg against Bayern Munich I don't think it's a good decision if you want to bet on PSG.
The loss of Messi and Mbappe to injury just before PSG's match against Bayern Munich is a major setback for the team. For me, it seems like for Neymar to shoulder the offensive load by himself is asking for trouble. PSG's assault may suffer without Messi's leadership. It won't be easy for PSG to stave off Bayern Munich's assaults without their best talents. I really want PSG to find some kind of strength inside themselves and put up a fight. But perhaps it is their fate not to win any Champion league title

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February 12, 2023, 12:41:06 PM
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If I'm not mistaken, then Messi will play in the match with Bayern, and only Mbappe will miss the game, so it will be easier for Neymar. But I think that Mbappe is the strongest of this trio of strikers, so the attack of PSG will not be complete without him. Bayern looks better if we evaluate teams by the results of the last matches, but it's still a superficial analysis of what the teams are capable of, we will see in the first match on Tuesday in Paris.
Mbappe is the best striker PSG has at the moment ,Mbappe present will had more opportunities for PSG. If the these players will be playing the game it will make PSG have more edge against.
 Bayern Munich will always want to make the game tough for PSG.
Indeed, Mbappe's absence might affect Paris Saint Germain's attack line, but if you look at the depth of their squad Paris Saint Germain shouldn't complain too much about this. They already have to prepare players who will replace the role of a Mbappe because that is the only option they have.
Speaking of Bayern Munich, with or without Mbappe Bayern Munich is a formidable opponent for Paris Saint Germain.

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February 12, 2023, 12:52:05 PM
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it's true that PSG will have a very difficult time if Messi and Mbappe are absent in the first leg against Bayern, this weekend in their domestic league PSG lost to Monaco and it was clear that their attack line was not working effectively when left by Mbappe and Messi, Neymar as the main player can't make many changes without the tandem of Messi and Mbappe.
PSG's performance is currently in the spotlight because those who can't be consistent especially when they have to fight Bayern are really very difficult, if you look at the player material that is owned by both teams then the logical percentage is equal opportunity for both teams but if we look at the performance of the two teams in their respective domestic leagues, of course PSG will find it very difficult to qualify for the next round.

If I'm not mistaken, then Messi will play in the match with Bayern, and only Mbappe will miss the game, so it will be easier for Neymar. But I think that Mbappe is the strongest of this trio of strikers, so the attack of PSG will not be complete without him. Bayern looks better if we evaluate teams by the results of the last matches, but it's still a superficial analysis of what the teams are capable of, we will see in the first match on Tuesday in Paris.
The anticipation of which players will be available for important games like the one between Bayern and PSG that is soon to be played is always intriguing. Despite the fact that there have been speculations about Messi and Mbappe's availability, nothing has been officially verified. Always wait for official statements since it's vital to keep in mind that these kinds of rumors occasionally function as a team's strategy.

PSG would undoubtedly benefit from having Messi and Mbappe on the squad, but even without one of them, the club may still do well without the other. If Messi is the only player available, the group may employ him to bolster their defense. A high-stakes game like the Champions League usually puts the emphasis on defense, despite the fact that Mbappe is undoubtedly a potent force in attack.

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February 12, 2023, 01:08:02 PM
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it's true that PSG will have a very difficult time if Messi and Mbappe are absent in the first leg against Bayern, this weekend in their domestic league PSG lost to Monaco and it was clear that their attack line was not working effectively when left by Mbappe and Messi, Neymar as the main player can't make many changes without the tandem of Messi and Mbappe.
PSG's performance is currently in the spotlight because those who can't be consistent especially when they have to fight Bayern are really very difficult, if you look at the player material that is owned by both teams then the logical percentage is equal opportunity for both teams but if we look at the performance of the two teams in their respective domestic leagues, of course PSG will find it very difficult to qualify for the next round.

If I'm not mistaken, then Messi will play in the match with Bayern, and only Mbappe will miss the game, so it will be easier for Neymar. But I think that Mbappe is the strongest of this trio of strikers, so the attack of PSG will not be complete without him. Bayern looks better if we evaluate teams by the results of the last matches, but it's still a superficial analysis of what the teams are capable of, we will see in the first match on Tuesday in Paris.
It will be really difficult for PSG without Messi, Mbappe in the team against Bayern Munich. Because they lost the previous match of PSG with a big margin of 3-1. Where Neymar could not do anything.

I think PSG relies too much on their 3 big stars, Mbappe, Messi and Neymar and neglects the rest of the team.
PSG has plenty of other quality players who also deserve attention, such as Donnarumma, Marquinhos, Mendes, Hakimi and others.
It even seems to me that PSG plays better when all three big stars are not playing together in the team  Grin
The contribution of Mbappe, Messi and Neymar in defense is small and this affects the team's game and results in matches against the best teams.

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PSG odds @2.9 on ML while Bayern is @2.3. The latter seems pretty decent considering Mbappe is likely be out on that match so I'm taking that. That's probably one of the safer bets for round of 16. Line for Milan vs Hotpurs are almost identical and decent too but I have no idea which team to go for. Anyone fancy a BTTS or total goals?

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February 12, 2023, 02:40:59 PM
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It will be really difficult for PSG without Messi, Mbappe in the team against Bayern Munich. Because they lost the previous match of PSG with a big margin of 3-1. Where Neymar could not do anything.
PSG, which still has three star players, will obviously be very strong in the Champions League this season, but that doesn't mean Bayern Munich will be a weak opponent for PSG, because Bayern Munich has also recently found its original form again so when it returns to competing in the League Champions can also be very strong and PSG need to be careful when dealing with Bayern Munich this season in the Champions League.

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It will be really difficult for PSG without Messi, Mbappe in the team against Bayern Munich. Because they lost the previous match of PSG with a big margin of 3-1. Where Neymar could not do anything.

PSG lost too many points in the league after the world cup. Bayern Munich went through a similar process but they managed to become a winning team again. PSG seems to me to be a better team in terms of squad quality, but Bayern Munich are better than them in terms of form in their last match. It will be a bit of an assertive statement, but Bayern Munich can beat PSG away and go to the next round from the first match. I think Bayern Munich are better than PSG in terms of defense and attack.

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I think PSG relies too much on their 3 big stars, Mbappe, Messi and Neymar and neglects the rest of the team.
PSG has plenty of other quality players who also deserve attention, such as Donnarumma, Marquinhos, Mendes, Hakimi and others.
It even seems to me that PSG plays better when all three big stars are not playing together in the team  Grin
The contribution of Mbappe, Messi and Neymar in defense is small and this affects the team's game and results in matches against the best teams.
I am not sure they do, they still have a good goalkeeper, good defenders, and great offense, I am not entirely sure if their midfield is good or not, could be better, but at the end of the day that's all you need from a team, good defense and good offense. Kimpembe and marquinhos and hakimi and donnaruma together makes sure that they do not get scored on easily, whereas mbappe and messi and neymar tries to score instead.

When they all work together in the same game with these players, they usually win and would probably beat Bayern too. However, their issue is that they don't get all these players playing at the same time and deal with injuries all the time.
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PSG odds @2.9 on ML while Bayern is @2.3. The latter seems pretty decent considering Mbappe is likely be out on that match so I'm taking that. That's probably one of the safer bets for round of 16. Line for Milan vs Hotpurs are almost identical and decent too but I have no idea which team to go for. Anyone fancy a BTTS or total goals?

PSG's attack will be weakened if Mbappe is absent in this match. But the chemistry between Messi and Neymar is very good. If Messi and Neymar get enough support from the midfield players, these two players can lead PSG to victory. On the other hand, Bayern Munich is in very good form. Their performance in the last few matches has been excellent. However, betting on this match is very risky. I will bet after seeing the squads of both teams in this match.

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PSG odds @2.9 on ML while Bayern is @2.3. The latter seems pretty decent considering Mbappe is likely be out on that match so I'm taking that. That's probably one of the safer bets for round of 16. Line for Milan vs Hotpurs are almost identical and decent too but I have no idea which team to go for. Anyone fancy a BTTS or total goals?

PSG's attack will be weakened if Mbappe is absent in this match. But the chemistry between Messi and Neymar is very good. If Messi and Neymar get enough support from the midfield players, these two players can lead PSG to victory. On the other hand, Bayern Munich is in very good form. Their performance in the last few matches has been excellent. However, betting on this match is very risky. I will bet after seeing the squads of both teams in this match.
You are right that PSG's attack is very weak without Mbappe. With Mbappe in the XI, attacks are quick and opposition defenses struggle to contain Mbappe. In view of which PSG's victory becomes easy to ensure.

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February 12, 2023, 05:18:42 PM
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AC Milan - Spurs seem to be winning a pretty boring match. Judging by the current performances of both teams, I think Spurs are favorites to continue. I'm not saying they win this game easily, but a draw would also be a good starting point as they can finish the job against Milan later in England. I don't know what is going on with Milan at the moment, but the team is a long way from the level they managed to reach last year. And all eyes are on PSG - Bayern Munich. Both teams are not in the best shape and if Mbappe does not participate, PSG will have to watch out that it does not run into a big defeat. That could also be possible and then the return in Munich is just a formality.

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February 12, 2023, 05:21:16 PM
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It will be really difficult for PSG without Messi, Mbappe in the team against Bayern Munich. Because they lost the previous match of PSG with a big margin of 3-1. Where Neymar could not do anything.

PSG lost too many points in the league after the world cup. Bayern Munich went through a similar process but they managed to become a winning team again. PSG seems to me to be a better team in terms of squad quality, but Bayern Munich are better than them in terms of form in their last match. It will be a bit of an assertive statement, but Bayern Munich can beat PSG away and go to the next round from the first match. I think Bayern Munich are better than PSG in terms of defense and attack.
There is no balance in the PSG team. Meanwhile, Messi and Mbappe are injured. Neymar is not able to do anything great for the team. So as far as possible I think PSG will lose the Bayern Munich match as well. The coach of the team needs to think something new for the team.

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February 12, 2023, 05:27:43 PM
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AC Milan - Spurs seem to be winning a pretty boring match. Judging by the current performances of both teams, I think Spurs are favorites to continue. I'm not saying they win this game easily, but a draw would also be a good starting point as they can finish the job against Milan later in England. I don't know what is going on with Milan at the moment, but the team is a long way from the level they managed to reach last year. And all eyes are on PSG - Bayern Munich. Both teams are not in the best shape and if Mbappe does not participate, PSG will have to watch out that it does not run into a big defeat. That could also be possible and then the return in Munich is just a formality.
The match between Tottenham and AC Milan will be great. However AC Milan is currently performing fairly well, there is a balance between the teams. But the condition of Tottenham is very bad, Tottenham was defeated by a huge margin of 4-1 goals in the previous match. So if AC Milan doesn't miss any chance, something great can be expected.

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February 12, 2023, 05:47:19 PM
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PSG odds @2.9 on ML while Bayern is @2.3. The latter seems pretty decent considering Mbappe is likely be out on that match so I'm taking that. That's probably one of the safer bets for round of 16. Line for Milan vs Hotpurs are almost identical and decent too but I have no idea which team to go for. Anyone fancy a BTTS or total goals?

PSG's attack will be weakened if Mbappe is absent in this match. But the chemistry between Messi and Neymar is very good. If Messi and Neymar get enough support from the midfield players, these two players can lead PSG to victory. On the other hand, Bayern Munich is in very good form. Their performance in the last few matches has been excellent. However, betting on this match is very risky. I will bet after seeing the squads of both teams in this match.
That is still not visible in the game scheme of Paris Saint-Germain, they look like they only rely on individual abilities and their teamwork is not visible. That is one of the problems that they have yet to solve, if they have very good teamwork supported by very good individual player abilities, they will become a very solid team. But so far I haven't seen that in a game from Paris Saint-Germain so they often find themselves in a stalemate if the opponents they face play solidly.

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February 12, 2023, 05:55:44 PM
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I would like to know how you get such confidence? Borussia, even in its poor state, is the kind of team that can sometimes beat Bayern in a personal meeting, and now Dortmund is clearly on the rise. Chelsea seem to have forgotten what it's like to win (one win in the last 8 games lol). At the same time, I will note that initially, after the draw, I considered Chelsea a favorite in this pair, now I have changed my mind.

Dortmund winning Bayern even at their poor state can’t be compared to the champions league football. The morale and team spirit is different here. Chelsea from past seasons have shown much high level of expertise in the field of play in the champions league, much better than what Dortmund has showed. Even with Chelsea current form, I don’t think Dortmund are worthy opponent that will hinder them from qualifying to the next round of the competition.

And what is the difference? The Champions League is played by the same rules as the Bundesliga and the Premier League. They play the same set of players and everything else is also the same. If we discard fantasies about the spirit (why did you get the idea that Dortmund has it weaker), then Chelsea now looks weaker simply because they are in a deep crisis. Not a single win in 8 games lol!

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February 12, 2023, 06:27:14 PM
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There are two games on Tuesday, but everyone is focused on the game between PSG and Bayern Munich. Actually, I'm going to do like everybody else and watch this match. PSG have too many injured players. Also, we read a lot of news that there are some minor disagreements within the team. They will continue to be champions in the French league, but I do not think it will be easy for them to advance further in this arena. I think it's hard to talk about the result of the first match, but I think Bayern are the favorites of the tour.

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