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September 27, 2023, 09:41:11 AM
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Looking at the betting markets have displayed the odds for the Champions League match that interests me is the Napoli vs Real Madrid match.

Here it seems that Napoli are favored by the bookies even though it doesn't differ much from the odds of the two, for me it is clear that Real Madrid will remain the favorites even though they have experienced problems in their attack and about yesterday's shock defeat in LaLiga, there is news that Vinicus has recovered and can play but this is not yet valid news.

To be honest I'm not sure Napoli will win, but a draw is possible, need to think about the right bet I want to find Vinicius information first.
Actually I don't think Napoli is favorite team for winning against Real Madrid looking their current performance in domestic league and have internal problem last few hours with their striker Victor Victor Osimhen. Last match, Real Madrid got first loss in domestic league from Atletico Madrid but have bad problem facing by Napoli actually after publishing video meme with their striker failed scoring goals trough penalty kick. Current Napoli performance in domestic league not quit well and they have dropped to 7th standings place with Rudi Garcia can manage well Napoli how existing in the top standings position, but both teams have good capital on first Champion League match with Real Madrid won from Union Berlin and Napoli success got three points away from Braga.

Have two matches in domestic league for both team before facing in second match in Champion League, I think have some rotation later for efficiency their squad on the top perform.

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September 27, 2023, 09:47:59 AM
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For me most chances Real Madrid will be having advantage even they are also having issues but things looking much better for them for this game now who is going to lead the group it's important, and this match is surely going to have big impact for this all but for me most chances we will have draw or away result.

The game is still next week, of course Napoli do not want any problems that make players feel aggrieved. If that happens, they should immediately apologize to Osimhen so that the team atmosphere is conducive. Napoli still need Osimhen to date. A few weeks ago even Garcia had to apologise for pulling Osimhen in the final minute. Even Osimhen for the second issue is ready to take legal action. means that this second problem is quite serious.

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September 27, 2023, 10:15:52 AM
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For me most chances Real Madrid will be having advantage even they are also having issues but things looking much better for them for this game now who is going to lead the group it's important, and this match is surely going to have big impact for this all but for me most chances we will have draw or away result.

The game is still next week, of course Napoli do not want any problems that make players feel aggrieved. If that happens, they should immediately apologize to Osimhen so that the team atmosphere is conducive. Napoli still need Osimhen to date. A few weeks ago even Garcia had to apologise for pulling Osimhen in the final minute. Even Osimhen for the second issue is ready to take legal action. means that this second problem is quite serious.
The second matter is a matter of mockery and ridicule from the very club that you are fighting very hard for. It is indeed painful to Victor that he is treated in such a way even after his outstanding performance last season. I was among the few people who advised Victor to immediately leave Napoli to any other club in order to maintain his prestige and performance and also have a good and new challenges. Even when the Saudi Arabian club came with mouth-watering offer, he ignored the Saudi Arabian side in order to play good football in Europe. I was actually pained at that because it was a missed opportunity for Victor to go to another level of financial freedom, see how they are treating him so early.

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September 27, 2023, 10:32:34 AM
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Napoli is favored by the bookie to win the match. I think this is a good thing for me because I will gain a lot by betting on Madrid. I'm sure Madrid will win the match. Even though they have just experienced defeat in the League, this is not a problem because Madrid has a good record against teams from Italy. I sorted the results of these matches in the order that Madrid wins, or draws, or Napoli wins.
This season is the third time Real Madrid and Napoli have met in the Champions League, because the last time they met was in 2017 in the Champions League Final Stage, at which time Real Madrid was able to emerge victorious. But this time, I think it will be very different because these two teams have very different strengths compared to five years ago, so the level of excitement in the match will probably be presented again at Diego Armando Maradona, namely Napoli's home ground.

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September 27, 2023, 10:33:29 AM
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For me most chances Real Madrid will be having advantage even they are also having issues but things looking much better for them for this game now who is going to lead the group it's important, and this match is surely going to have big impact for this all but for me most chances we will have draw or away result.

The game is still next week, of course Napoli do not want any problems that make players feel aggrieved. If that happens, they should immediately apologize to Osimhen so that the team atmosphere is conducive. Napoli still need Osimhen to date. A few weeks ago even Garcia had to apologise for pulling Osimhen in the final minute. Even Osimhen for the second issue is ready to take legal action. means that this second problem is quite serious.
The second matter is a matter of mockery and ridicule from the very club that you are fighting very hard for. It is indeed painful to Victor that he is treated in such a way even after his outstanding performance last season. I was among the few people who advised Victor to immediately leave Napoli to any other club in order to maintain his prestige and performance and also have a good and new challenges. Even when the Saudi Arabian club came with mouth-watering offer, he ignored the Saudi Arabian side in order to play good football in Europe. I was actually pained at that because it was a missed opportunity for Victor to go to another level of financial freedom, see how they are treating him so early.

Napoli is suffering in every aspect during this season.They are not being able to show the quality they have in most likely because of internal problems at the team,the win against Braga was a bit lucky and of course was due to the fact that the difference of quality in leagues between Serie A and Primeira Liga are relevant and substantial.

Osimhen is not being able to show his skills and I don't know but I believe it is because of internal problems in the team,his treatment should have been better of course,nevertheless playing with Napoli in the Champions League can be a good window to show off his skills.

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September 27, 2023, 11:49:51 AM
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Thank God we won’t see another series of Real Madrid games against Chelsea, City and Liverpool for the third time in a row due to the fact that Liverpool and Chelsea are not in this Champions League  Grin
As for the favorites, in my opinion, if KDB continues his treatment, then Bayern can really be the number one favorite. City is in second place, Real is in third - unfortunately they do not have the top in attack, so they are a little weaker.

I follow you in this one, but im gonna wait a little more to see how strong really is this Bayern Munich, i think with Kane they are a serious contender, but also they are not the strong team that they were in other seasons.

About chelsea, what a luck for them to no stay in this UCL, it can be a nightmare.

In two days Bayern play Leipzig and it will be possible to assess their current form. Another question is that closer to the final part of the tournament, Kane will be more well integrated into the team, plus Bayern’s shape may also change (both in one direction and the other), so the game with Leipzig will show only the current shape and not the prospects.
As for Chelsea and the Champions League, now the number of participants is inflated and in fact in the group stage every team has a chance, they would be happy to participate, even if just for the sake of money.

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September 27, 2023, 12:00:08 PM
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Napoli is suffering in every aspect during this season.They are not being able to show the quality they have in most likely because of internal problems at the team,the win against Braga was a bit lucky and of course was due to the fact that the difference of quality in leagues between Serie A and Primeira Liga are relevant and substantial.

Osimhen is not being able to show his skills and I don't know but I believe it is because of internal problems in the team,his treatment should have been better of course,nevertheless playing with Napoli in the Champions League can be a good window to show off his skills.
Napoli victory vs Braga in Champions League was the only victory they have from their last victory in August vs Sassuolo in Serie A.. Napoli have 8 points and scored 5 goals after 5 rounds.
In Champions League, their group isn't easy with Real Madrid getting a spot for sure and they have to pick the other one from Union Berlin which aren't good in their league too.
We were waiting a lot from Napoli this season but it seems they dropped in performance comparing to the previous one. Selling Osimehn and buying new players might be a good choice that was missed this summer.

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September 27, 2023, 12:47:10 PM
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Napoli is favored by the bookie to win the match. I think this is a good thing for me because I will gain a lot by betting on Madrid. I'm sure Madrid will win the match. Even though they have just experienced defeat in the League, this is not a problem because Madrid has a good record against teams from Italy. I sorted the results of these matches in the order that Madrid wins, or draws, or Napoli wins.
This season is the third time Real Madrid and Napoli have met in the Champions League, because the last time they met was in 2017 in the Champions League Final Stage, at which time Real Madrid was able to emerge victorious. But this time, I think it will be very different because these two teams have very different strengths compared to five years ago, so the level of excitement in the match will probably be presented again at Diego Armando Maradona, namely Napoli's home ground.
Napoli certainly want to avenge the defeat they experienced five years ago, Napoli's quality this time is much better than five years ago, they also have the potential to give Real Madrid a defeat, especially since they will be playing in front of their own supporters who packed the Diego Armando Maradona stadium. However, Real Madrid did not come to Italy to lose, their mission to win was of course their aim to improve the mentality of their players even though they lacked reliable players in the striker position.
Rudi Garcia needs to watch footage of Real Madrid last match when they were defeated by Atletico to look for Real Madrid weak points, Rudi Garcia role was very important in Napoli success in winning against Real Madrid.

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September 27, 2023, 01:03:56 PM
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Napoli is favored by the bookie to win the match. I think this is a good thing for me because I will gain a lot by betting on Madrid. I'm sure Madrid will win the match. Even though they have just experienced defeat in the League, this is not a problem because Madrid has a good record against teams from Italy. I sorted the results of these matches in the order that Madrid wins, or draws, or Napoli wins.
This season is the third time Real Madrid and Napoli have met in the Champions League, because the last time they met was in 2017 in the Champions League Final Stage, at which time Real Madrid was able to emerge victorious. But this time, I think it will be very different because these two teams have very different strengths compared to five years ago, so the level of excitement in the match will probably be presented again at Diego Armando Maradona, namely Napoli's home ground.

The Napoli team is very strong, but their performances are somewhat erratic . On the other hand  Real madrid's main striker vinicius Jr.  has joined the squad after recovering from injury. But it cannot be said for sure whether he will be able to perform well now . Real madrid's attack is still somewhat weak and erratic. If napoli's players make good use of this opportunity, they have a chance to win. However, Real Madrid are very experienced in the champions League platform. Coach Ancelotti is also very experienced. And so in this match I will consider the Real Madrid team as the favorite. Winning against Ancelotti is too much. difficult.

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September 27, 2023, 01:10:39 PM
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Napoli is favored by the bookie to win the match. I think this is a good thing for me because I will gain a lot by betting on Madrid. I'm sure Madrid will win the match. Even though they have just experienced defeat in the League, this is not a problem because Madrid has a good record against teams from Italy. I sorted the results of these matches in the order that Madrid wins, or draws, or Napoli wins.
This season is the third time Real Madrid and Napoli have met in the Champions League, because the last time they met was in 2017 in the Champions League Final Stage, at which time Real Madrid was able to emerge victorious. But this time, I think it will be very different because these two teams have very different strengths compared to five years ago, so the level of excitement in the match will probably be presented again at Diego Armando Maradona, namely Napoli's home ground.
Just like the last time met in a champions league game it was really an epic game as neither team had it really easy although it was a final game which I usually characterized with such but then Madrid had to play well enough to become the champions as Napoli at that point was wanting to take to any chance to be the champions in that game untill Madrid sealed their victory.

Definitely a lot has changed since it's been five years they last met in a champions league game. Their strength, style of play and probably their tactics aswell must have experienced some level of changes as it's obvious in the results both team has produced in most recent times in their league games and also in the champions league aswell.

It's really going to be a difficult game to predict but then Madrid have got a challenge to resolve else it may appear a problem to them in their champions league game against Napoli and that has to do with getting a good striker to do the finishing for them and get them goals, Napoli aswell have to resolve the issues with osimehe before it turns out issues enough to affect the team but then Madrid stands to be my favourite and I hope they win.

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September 27, 2023, 01:12:36 PM
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Napoli is favored by the bookie to win the match. I think this is a good thing for me because I will gain a lot by betting on Madrid. I'm sure Madrid will win the match. Even though they have just experienced defeat in the League, this is not a problem because Madrid has a good record against teams from Italy. I sorted the results of these matches in the order that Madrid wins, or draws, or Napoli wins.
This season is the third time Real Madrid and Napoli have met in the Champions League, because the last time they met was in 2017 in the Champions League Final Stage, at which time Real Madrid was able to emerge victorious. But this time, I think it will be very different because these two teams have very different strengths compared to five years ago, so the level of excitement in the match will probably be presented again at Diego Armando Maradona, namely Napoli's home ground.

The Napoli team is very strong, but their performances are somewhat erratic . On the other hand  Real madrid's main striker vinicius Jr.  has joined the squad after recovering from injury. But it cannot be said for sure whether he will be able to perform well now . Real madrid's attack is still somewhat weak and erratic. If napoli's players make good use of this opportunity, they have a chance to win. However, Real Madrid are very experienced in the champions League platform. Coach Ancelotti is also very experienced. And so in this match I will consider the Real Madrid team as the favorite. Winning against Ancelotti is too much. difficult.
Napoli team is performing well this season. The coaching staff of the team has worked brilliantly for the development of the team. The result of which we can see in the matches. As they are performing well compared to last season, expect better things in this season.

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September 27, 2023, 01:20:15 PM
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Napoli is favored by the bookie to win the match. I think this is a good thing for me because I will gain a lot by betting on Madrid. I'm sure Madrid will win the match. Even though they have just experienced defeat in the League, this is not a problem because Madrid has a good record against teams from Italy. I sorted the results of these matches in the order that Madrid wins, or draws, or Napoli wins.
This season is the third time Real Madrid and Napoli have met in the Champions League, because the last time they met was in 2017 in the Champions League Final Stage, at which time Real Madrid was able to emerge victorious. But this time, I think it will be very different because these two teams have very different strengths compared to five years ago, so the level of excitement in the match will probably be presented again at Diego Armando Maradona, namely Napoli's home ground.
Napoli was always getting bad result in the previous match. I think that napoli should be aware about what must be the weakness spot from real madrid at this moment. Madrid has not done a lot of changes to its club as well as napoli. I think that we can still use the result from the previous season as measurement to determine the winner from this game but i obviously put my bet on real madrid which has good head to head over napoli. Real madrid has been known as a team with very strong mentality when it played away.
I have no doubt if madrid may able to beat or at least get draw against napoli soon. Madrid is now trying to finding its best form with the comeback of vini to the club.
I hope vini will able to destroy napoli in maradona stadium.

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September 27, 2023, 01:21:05 PM
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Napoli team is performing well this season. The coaching staff of the team has worked brilliantly for the development of the team. The result of which we can see in the matches. As they are performing well compared to last season, expect better things in this season.
This is different from last season, we can't see what they did last season but we have to be realistic in looking at this season as a whole not only in UCL matches but in the domestic league too.
Napoli are currently in a very bad state, plus recently there has been news that there is no longer a harmonious relationship with their mainstay forward, Victor Osimhen, which could possibly make this team even worse if chaos occurs within this team.
If we look so far and if the Napoli team can't recover then I don't think they will be able to do it again like what they did last season.
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September 27, 2023, 01:29:54 PM
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Napoli team is performing well this season. The coaching staff of the team has worked brilliantly for the development of the team. The result of which we can see in the matches. As they are performing well compared to last season, expect better things in this season.
This is different from last season, we can't see what they did last season but we have to be realistic in looking at this season as a whole not only in UCL matches but in the domestic league too.
Napoli are currently in a very bad state, plus recently there has been news that there is no longer a harmonious relationship with their mainstay forward, Victor Osimhen, which could possibly make this team even worse if chaos occurs within this team.
If we look so far and if the Napoli team can't recover then I don't think they will be able to do it again like what they did last season.
The truth is that Napoli isn't as good as they were last season and I think it's because of the fact that the current manager of the club is different from the one that helped them had an impressive campaign last season. Luciano Spalletti's departure from the club has affected the morale of some of the first team players and that's because of the kind of close relationship they had established with their former manager before he resigned at the end of last season.
Rudi Garcia has been doing his best to bring out the best from his players but I think he needs more time to achieve perfection with the players. It's still very early time if the season and I think there's still possiblity of the Italian club having a better season in Europe.

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September 27, 2023, 01:41:48 PM
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Napoli is favored by the bookie to win the match. I think this is a good thing for me because I will gain a lot by betting on Madrid. I'm sure Madrid will win the match. Even though they have just experienced defeat in the League, this is not a problem because Madrid has a good record against teams from Italy. I sorted the results of these matches in the order that Madrid wins, or draws, or Napoli wins.


Last season Napoli performed quite well in the league and UCL. In UCL Napoli entered quarter-finals, it was not separated from the hard and intelligent work of players and coaches. After Spalleti left there was a new challenge for Rudi Garcia. Garcia should be able to defend the Serie A champion and can enter the UCL Semifinals.

But I heard bad news about Osimhen. He seems angry with the club. This is a result of the club's official tiktok account posting a video that is considered mocking Osimhen. So it seems that there is an internal conflict in Naples. But this match will be at Napoli's home, so it's an advantage for Napoli because it has great support.

Source: https://x.com/RobertoCalenda/status/1706770365089824901?s=20

Bergha was not a hard team for Napoli and I think Napoli could even perform better than this because they were the champion of Serie A with a huge gap and that's why the fans obviously expect much more from this team.
But after Spalleti left Napoli they are not in good form like last season and obviously, some players even Osimhen can't have good days as they had in the past that's why they are a little bit angry.

Osimhen was willing to play more but garcia didn't allow him to do that. I do feel what osimhen feel. He was also trying to full time that will be helping him so much in exploring his own potential.

The new coach was just doing terrible thing to the club. I cannot describe it but garcia was actually there were a lot of negatives around napoli since the previous matches.

Garcia was not able to trusting osimhen like what spalletti did toward him. That's why osimhen was angry caused by that. Osimhen shall leave from there and join in a good club. Osimhen is just wasting his time to stay at a team that was lucky enough won scudetto last season. It may take 20 years again for napoli to win another scudetto. Osimhen needs to explore it even more to get better experience for his career.

He was still young and he deserves to be treated better than what garcia did.

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September 27, 2023, 02:14:37 PM
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The truth is that Napoli isn't as good as they were last season and I think it's because of the fact that the current manager of the club is different from the one that helped them had an impressive campaign last season. Luciano Spalletti's departure from the club has affected the morale of some of the first team players and that's because of the kind of close relationship they had established with their former manager before he resigned at the end of last season.
Rudi Garcia has been doing his best to bring out the best from his players but I think he needs more time to achieve perfection with the players. It's still very early time if the season and I think there's still possiblity of the Italian club having a better season in Europe.
It must be admitted that Luciano Spalletti's magic is still greater than that of Rudi Garcia and it is a bit unfortunate that Spalleti's departure comes at a time when Napoli are starting to recover and it's just a matter of how they can continue to be consistent this season. I don't think Napoli will be as scary as last season's Champions League and being able to qualify from Group F to the last 16 is a pretty good result. Of course, Rudi Garcia must be able to achieve almost the same achievements as last season, but with the current situation which is quite chaotic, of course that will be difficult to achieve.

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September 27, 2023, 02:55:25 PM
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Napoli is favored by the bookie to win the match. I think this is a good thing for me because I will gain a lot by betting on Madrid. I'm sure Madrid will win the match. Even though they have just experienced defeat in the League, this is not a problem because Madrid has a good record against teams from Italy. I sorted the results of these matches in the order that Madrid wins, or draws, or Napoli wins.
This season is the third time Real Madrid and Napoli have met in the Champions League, because the last time they met was in 2017 in the Champions League Final Stage, at which time Real Madrid was able to emerge victorious. But this time, I think it will be very different because these two teams have very different strengths compared to five years ago, so the level of excitement in the match will probably be presented again at Diego Armando Maradona, namely Napoli's home ground.
Yes, you are right that Real Madrid and Napoli met in the Champions League 5 years ago and Real Madrid won that match. However, looking at the current conditions, it is clear that both Real Madrid and Napoli have experienced significant changes in team strength and strategy. I think five years is a long time to see the changing dynamics of football, and that will be reflected in this match. Even though Napoli faced many obstacles this year, this is not a big problem for Napoli to remain focused on the match against Real Madrid this season. I think this will be a very fierce and tense match for the supporters, because these two teams are in the same group and will determine their ranking in group C. Hopefully this match will provide unforgettable moments for football fans and show the evolution that has occurred.

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September 27, 2023, 03:01:52 PM
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This season is the third time Real Madrid and Napoli have met in the Champions League, because the last time they met was in 2017 in the Champions League Final Stage, at which time Real Madrid was able to emerge victorious. But this time, I think it will be very different because these two teams have very different strengths compared to five years ago, so the level of excitement in the match will probably be presented again at Diego Armando Maradona, namely Napoli's home ground.
Head to head Real Madrid is still quite superior in this meeting and it will be quite different when Real Madrid plays in the Champions League even though they lost to Atletico Madrid in La Liga. For Napoli this time it is a revenge mission against Real Madrid because they always get unsatisfactory results when facing Real Madrid, but if you look at their current strength, it is probably impossible for them to beat Real Madrid easily. I'm also not really sure about Rudi Garcia's ability to handle Napoli, especially since the Champions League competition will be quite different from Serie A.

Osimhen looked so angry when Rudi Garcia sent him off in the last match in Serie A and in several reports I read he was so angry because Osimhen missed the penalty. If the relationship between players and coaches does not run normally, it is not impossible that it could affect the course of the match, especially since Osimhen was a striker who was relied on so very last season.

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September 27, 2023, 03:56:40 PM
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For me most chances Real Madrid will be having advantage even they are also having issues but things looking much better for them for this game now who is going to lead the group it's important, and this match is surely going to have big impact for this all but for me most chances we will have draw or away result.

The game is still next week, of course Napoli do not want any problems that make players feel aggrieved. If that happens, they should immediately apologize to Osimhen so that the team atmosphere is conducive. Napoli still need Osimhen to date. A few weeks ago even Garcia had to apologise for pulling Osimhen in the final minute. Even Osimhen for the second issue is ready to take legal action. means that this second problem is quite serious.

After all, in reality Napoli and Real Madrid both managed to get three points in their first match and that way, these two teams should remain on a good track at this moment. Also, even though Real Madrid are kings, but in the next match the reality is that based on the odds currently available, that Real Madrid is not the favorite team either. Therefore, of course any result can happen in the match between Napoli against Real Madrid later, because neither of these two teams are really favorites to win.

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September 27, 2023, 04:43:43 PM
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Napoli team is performing well this season. The coaching staff of the team has worked brilliantly for the development of the team. The result of which we can see in the matches. As they are performing well compared to last season, expect better things in this season.
This is different from last season, we can't see what they did last season but we have to be realistic in looking at this season as a whole not only in UCL matches but in the domestic league too.
Napoli are currently in a very bad state, plus recently there has been news that there is no longer a harmonious relationship with their mainstay forward, Victor Osimhen, which could possibly make this team even worse if chaos occurs within this team.
If we look so far and if the Napoli team can't recover then I don't think they will be able to do it again like what they did last season.
There was a dip in their performance and it was no better than last season. I'm actually not too surprised by this, because after they parted ways with their coach last season, there was talk that they might not be as good as last season, and in fact we're seeing that today. But I can't say for sure whether they'll decline further or bounce back in the upcoming matches.
I've only just heard about their disharmony with Osimhen, and if that's true, then I think it will have an effect, because he's one of the most reliable players in Napoli.

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