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- For Arsenal, Man United and PSG, I agree with you, these three clubs should be able to secure full points because they have opponents who are actually a little weak. Napoli was a little different because they were facing a relatively strong team, namely Madrid. Previously, Rudi Garcia squad was superior because they were playing at home, then it was proven that Madrid was still strong enough for Napoli to beat. I think the next match on matchday three will be more difficult, because it will create a bigger difference in points within each group. Newcastle's win over PSG surprised everyone, I think the score 4-1 is quite big. On the other hand, it is a little surprising to see Arsenal and PSG lose, because if you look at the composition of players owned by the two clubs, Asenal and PSG occupy the second and third positions, as the clubs with the most expensive squad in the world behind Man City in first place. Enrique, Arteta, Ten Hag and Rudi Garcia must make extra efforts in the UCL, not only must they improve their defense line, their front line should also receive special attention, because of the lack of goals. If they lose points in the next match, it will put their club in trouble, potentially failing to qualify for the last 16. You are right. Arsenal, PSG and Manchester United are teams that have better squad depth than the opponents they face. But in fact, several mistakes made the opposing team manage to take advantage of it to win maximum points. I was surprised about the defeats of PSG, Manchester United and Arsenal, but Napoli's defeat seemed reasonable considering that Real Madrid are the kings of the Champions League. Among the 4 teams discussed, I think Manchester United is the worst team. Why not, Manchester United has suffered two defeats from two group stage matches so far. They don't seem ready to compete, but the opportunity is still there because the difference in points can still be caught.
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October 05, 2023, 07:35:21 PM |
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Celtic lost 2-1 at home against Lazio. Celtic scored the first goal in the match and ended the first half with a 1-1 draw. Lazio didn't play very well away from home, but Lazio got an important win with a goal in the last minutes. Pedro, who came on in the 84th minute, scored the winning goal after 10 minutes. Thus, Atletico and Lazio reached 4 points in group E while Feyenoord 3 and Celtic 0.
A team with an attacking playing style like Celtic was not expected to lose the match against Lazio. Celtic should have scored more than just 1 goal in this match, but Lazio's defense was also very good, making Celtic's attackers confused. Lazio's last minute goal certainly added to the pain for the Celtic players and if this continues then Celtic will definitely be eliminated in the Champions League group phase. Celtic used to give most teams a hard time. Nowadays we see a Celtic that is far from its former strength. Normally, when they play at home, they can challenge their opponents and even win, but we can see that as time progresses, they have lost their old strength and are no longer the feared dream of the big teams. Celtic's performance so far shows that they will definitely not get out of the group and will be eliminated. I think they will most probably finish 4th in the group. The Celtic team is relatively weak. But winning against this team will not be an easy task for Lazio or Atletico Madrid. Feyenoord had an excellent 2-0 win at home against Celtic. However, it was not easy for Lazio to defeat Celtic in the away match. Celtic's players performed very well at home. They fought to win the entire match. And the performance of the players was also very good in this match. But they were unlucky. Lazio won the match by scoring in extra time after 90 minutes. Lazio won the match 2-1 thanks to Pedro's goal in the 90th+5th minute. However, we saw a very good performance from the Celtic players in this match.
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October 05, 2023, 07:59:11 PM |
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It is difficult for sure as it is a group of death on paper. The current points are also telling us this. It is even difficult to be confident about PSG to qualify from their group. Because that horrible result against Newcastle showed this to us clearly. Newcastle have also proven themselves to be a team that mustn't be underestimated even a bit. I would have also said normally that PSG and Milan would qualify for next stage. However things are pretty different now.
I can't even believe in PSG to be successful despite having Mbappe. As long as this team don't reassure us by some consistency I will doubt their qualifying from the group.
Unfortunately, I didn't watch this match. So, I just read based on statistics. It cannot be denied, it seems like the tactics implemented by Eddie Howe are going according to his plan. although previously, Newcastle experienced difficulties on their first matchday against AC Milan. However, when they played against PSG at their own headquarters, Eddie Howe's squad was able to win this match by a landslide. Either he has learned from the previous match, or it could be because the strategy implemented by Enrique failed miserably. That's why I can't judge this match objectively. because, I prefer to watch other matches presented in the Champions League. If I refer to PSG's statistics and line-up, I conclude that Enrique was experimenting in this match. because, very rarely does he apply the 4-2-3-1 pattern. Usually Enrique uses a 4-3-3, or 3-4-3 system. I don't know why Enrique implemented that pattern system, but what is certain is that he failed miserably in this match. even though in fact, PSG controlled 73% of ball possession. However, their defense line was poor, which in the end was easily broken through by Eddie Howe's squad. In the future, I am quite sure that Enrique will not apply a pattern like that again. Now Newcastle are in first place in the group phase, on matchday 3 they will host Dortmund. We cannot predict the results yet. while PSG will host Milan. In the next match, at least we will have a little idea which teams have almost no chance of qualifying for the Group F phase.
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October 05, 2023, 08:04:13 PM |
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Celtic lost 2-1 at home against Lazio. Celtic scored the first goal in the match and ended the first half with a 1-1 draw. Lazio didn't play very well away from home, but Lazio got an important win with a goal in the last minutes. Pedro, who came on in the 84th minute, scored the winning goal after 10 minutes. Thus, Atletico and Lazio reached 4 points in group E while Feyenoord 3 and Celtic 0.
A team with an attacking playing style like Celtic was not expected to lose the match against Lazio. Celtic should have scored more than just 1 goal in this match, but Lazio's defense was also very good, making Celtic's attackers confused. Lazio's last minute goal certainly added to the pain for the Celtic players and if this continues then Celtic will definitely be eliminated in the Champions League group phase. Celtic used to give most teams a hard time. Nowadays we see a Celtic that is far from its former strength. Normally, when they play at home, they can challenge their opponents and even win, but we can see that as time progresses, they have lost their old strength and are no longer the feared dream of the big teams. Celtic's performance so far shows that they will definitely not get out of the group and will be eliminated. I think they will most probably finish 4th in the group. The Celtic team is relatively weak. But winning against this team will not be an easy task for Lazio or Atletico Madrid. Feyenoord had an excellent 2-0 win at home against Celtic. However, it was not easy for Lazio to defeat Celtic in the away match. Celtic's players performed very well at home. They fought to win the entire match. And the performance of the players was also very good in this match. But they were unlucky. Lazio won the match by scoring in extra time after 90 minutes. Lazio won the match 2-1 thanks to Pedro's goal in the 90th+5th minute. However, we saw a very good performance from the Celtic players in this match. Even though Feyenoord is not the favorite in this group, we know that they will give the other teams a hard time. Because they are in better form than they have ever been in the last year and they will probably finish 2nd in the group. I don't think Lazio are stronger than Feyenoord, Lazio are far from their old performance but they are an experienced team here and they managed to win with a last minute goal away from home. If Celtic had taken points from this match I would have said that maybe they could be 3rd in the group but after this time it seems difficult.
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October 05, 2023, 08:06:54 PM |
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I really appreciated Feyenoord's high level dedication. In the end it isn't easy to get ahead 2 times against a team like Atletico Madrid in an away match. But all that effort was still not enough to steal any point. The player I liked the most in this match was Alvaro Morata. He played a big role in the 3-2 win by scoring 2 goals. Aside from that Morata is really fired up this season. He scored 7 goals in 8 matches so far. This is just something new we see from him. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) It is like this is the season that he proves he isn't actually a very overrated striker. In UCL, we should permanently erased the mindset of underestimating teams because there's basically no average team here, infact for a club to be among the best four teams in a league, it means they're very competitive and strong enough to handle tough games in UCL. Feyenoord starting the game with brilliant performance from the players but failed to balance the game till the end, not after a comeback win from Atletico Madrid who were also incredibly impacted. Diego Simeone have targets lay out for this season and he's ambitious on achieving them without within the range of time set.
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October 05, 2023, 08:19:49 PM |
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In terms of play, Manchester United were indeed able to perform well and create dangerous attacks, but the carelessness of their own players made everything fall apart. Casemiro's red card gave Galatasaray more freedom, but Onana's poor performance was also the main cause of the defeat.
Onana's performance is really poor, his poor performance is really affecting Manchester United's performance. Onana was too hyped when he was about to be signed, but unfortunately, his performance is really poor. I just hope he will be able to improve his performance, or it’s really going to have a negative impact on Manchester United's performance. Manchester United's defense is also weak, that’s why Onana's weak performance is kind of obvious. If their defense is strong, they will be able to defend some balls that won’t get to their goalkeeper, and they will be able to cover up for Onana, so ten hag have to work on his defense and goalkeeper. Actually, three goals from Galatasaray is not totally mistake from Andre Onana,
We all know that Onana's performance has been really poor since he got to Manchester United, United conceded 3 goals against Galatasaray. Everyone is blaming Onana alone, and they are not talking about Manchester United's poor defense. United’s defense is really weak, which makes it very easy for opponent teams to penetrate. United are always dominating matches, but any opportunity that their opponents have, they are always converting it into a goal because United’s defense is always easy to break.
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October 05, 2023, 08:23:00 PM |
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I can't even believe in PSG to be successful despite having Mbappe. As long as this team don't reassure us by some consistency I will doubt their qualifying from the group.
It will be a disaster if PSG fail to make it out of the group stage, but it is still very much in their hands to avoid that disaster, it is quite early for PSG to push the panic button, they are second in the group. PSG's next two games in the group is against Ac Milan, both home and away, it is after those games that we can start to give our predictions as to who'll make it out of the group, if PSG get a good result in both games, then they might be in a strong position to qualify, but if they don't, they could actually be eliminated, which would be a huge shock and a disappointment to everyone associated with PSG.
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October 05, 2023, 08:31:34 PM |
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Milan's next match will be even more interesting to watch because Milan will face PSG who are currently in second place in the group standings. So Milan must try to win so that they can put themselves in that position by eliminating PSG from that position because these two teams have a real chance of taking second place in the group by winning in the next match. Although there is another possibility for PSG if Newcastle is unable to win the next match.
I don’t think that Milan will play strictly to win - in the end the game will be in Paris and they will most likely have to fend off PSG for which this match will also be decisive. Taking into account the fact that this will be a doubles game (after the game in Paris, the next game will be in Milan), I think Milan will try, first of all, not to lose. The game Newcastle - Dortmund will be more uncompromising, it seems to me. Dortmund only have one point and need to start winning, while Newcastle will try to solve most of their qualification problem in this game. With 7 points after 3 games they will 90% secure a ticket to the 1/8. Before start of this event mostly were calling this group as death but after first two games we are having surprising results as weakest side is at the top and others are struggling badly and after end of first half most chances we will have Newcastle United at the top and others will be suffered badly specially Dortmund is having no chance for going at the better spot because their next game is at the St James Park where Newcastle United will try to keep their unbeaten record and have three points as well. Milan and PSG are currently in same boat specially PSG is having bad time with conceding four goals mean things are going into negative and need more than their current performance for having better result and AC Milan is having good defensive games, and they can steal good points at home against Dortmund and PSG which will be positive for them.
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Congratulations to Newcastle United. I never expected that Newcastle United will perform this wonders in the Champions league. I can confidently say that Newcastle is the wonders of this season's Champions League because they have not been in the Champions League for the past twenty years. Now they managed to enter, they were somehow unlucky to join the hardest group to be qualified from. And I predicted that Newcastle will not win even one match from the matches they will play, which means they will not qualify from the group but I am surprised that they drew one match. Just last night, they were able to trash PSG and I am happy with Newcastle United. We should not be surprised as Newcastle United will qualify from the group match and they will take everybody by surprise by going very far in the Champions League competition. Once again, congratulations Newcastle United !
This shows that Newcastle have improved in their performance are they are ready to face any club that comes their way in this champions league. Their defense was very strong yesterday at it was difficult for PSG strikers to penetrate. Last season performance in EPL has shown that Newcastle might be able to surprise us in the champions league this season, which they have given us the first surprise from yesterday's match. So many big clubs lost their matches yesterday. In a sincerity, I was stunned that Newcastle united could win their match. The team is indeed full of surprises. Along with other English teams like Arsenal, Manchester city who are participating in the UCL, I think Newcastle united is the most underrated team and they have alot to prove, but first they get to qualify from their group as it stands. PSG also surprised me. I would like to think that these first matches was just to test the opponents strength and strategy. The return match would determine the better sides.
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In the first half, Napoli successfully pressed their opponent. And at the beginning of the second half, they could turn the game around through competent use of the left flank. But all this was not enough and the Italian club lost. Napoli deserved compliments for their effort, but they were beaten by a team that was stronger in many aspects of the game. It was a difficult but very important win for Real! Bellingham deserves the highest praise for their play.
My target, Madrid drew but they finally won and I'm happy. Anceloti did not choose the Young midfielder to be his player. Bellingham established himself as Madrid's best player. Hopefully he doesn't get tired and get injured until the end of the season. Because it will make Madrid difficult. At the moment I am waiting for Guler's debut, because it seems that if he plays Madrid will be even stronger.
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October 05, 2023, 09:07:31 PM |
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PSG's confrontation with Newcastle is considered a battle of the rich. Because both clubs have supes-rich owners. Newcastle itself does not have the same status and attraction as PSG. PSG is the team that spends more when ready to bring in a series of top stars. Meanwhile, Newcastle is slowly shopping. This is the first time Newcastle and PSG meet in the European arena. However, when it comes to the strength of the squad and the experience of both of them, PSG is truly superior in several ways compared to Newcastle. However, it turned out that until the end, PSG couldn't add any goals at all, while on the contrary, Newcastle was able to add 1 more goal. Score 4 - 1 for Newcastle's victory over PSG was a very impressive result for Newcastle, as well as a result that really hit PSG. I don't know whether Newcastle will have the same opportunity to slaughter PSG again or not in the next match, but for now, they are really celebrating.
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October 05, 2023, 09:15:58 PM |
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It's very hard to predict what will be the final standing at the last match day. Acmilan/PSG/Newcstle are still competing so hard for the first and second place. The situation can change a lot once acmilan will be able to beat PSG away. This is the key owned by acmilan to go to the next stage. The possible scenario if newcastle will be winning the match and acmilan as well. This will make newcastle has 3 points and acmilan has 2 points gap to the PSG. Dortmund is the only club who is still performing so badly in this group. Dortmund needs a miracle to go to the play off stage. The standing can change anytime and this totally depends on the result from upcoming game. My prediction if newcastle and acmilan will be qualifying for the next round. Im very optimistic if acmilan will able to beat PSG away. Acmilan was always playing awfully during the first and second match as these clubs were always getting 1 point. It is still too difficult to determine which teams will qualify for the round of 16 considering that they all still have 4 matches left. Newcastle, PSG, Milan and Dortmund all still have a chance of qualifying if they can win their next few games and this is one of the most difficult groups to predict. I'm also not completely sure Newcastle can maintain consistent performance even though they haven't been beaten in the group stage in the last 2 matches, but Milan and PSG are good candidates to hope to compete closely until the last match. I favor Milan and PSG to go through, but Newcastle is the team that has the possibility of denying either of them a place in the last 16. The match between AC Milan and Dortmund ended with 0-0 result and they got one point from this match but Rafael Leão, the palyer of AC Milan seems very unhappy about this. After the match against Dortmund, he said just like in the game against Newcastle they could make enough opportunities in this game but they could score a goal and this result was not good for them. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2FCLTB5X00%2Fydtgmz1f.jpg&t=665&c=tkuEui9WGKjVBA)
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October 05, 2023, 09:29:33 PM |
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By the end of the second round in this group stage of Champions League, there is only four teams that got 6 points: Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Barcelona and Real Madrid. These teams are serious contenders for the title this year especially Manchester City then comes the others. There is also unsuccessful teams like Manchester United and Dortmund in the bottom of the tables of their groups.. I think they will leave the competition at this stage, maybe it isn't a bad thing for them this season.
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October 05, 2023, 09:33:40 PM |
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The match between AC Milan and Dortmund ended with 0-0 result and they got one point from this match but Rafael Leão, the palyer of AC Milan seems very unhappy about this. After the match against Dortmund, he said just like in the game against Newcastle they could make enough opportunities in this game but they could score a goal and this result was not good for them.
There must be disappointment between the two, because after all, their target is to get more points. Currently, what's more, they are in 3rd and 4th place, so they really have to fight even harder. But indeed, the competition in group F is really the toughest compared to the other groups. So this won't be easy. Because maybe at that time Rafael Leão actually really hoped to be ahead of Dortmund, because maybe at this time, he felt that Dortmund was the most likely to be beaten. But apparently not, some of the opportunities they had to score goals were lost and could not be optimized. Therefore, this will be an even tougher struggle in the future. Moreover, later they have to meet PSG, which will not be easy for them.
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October 05, 2023, 09:36:00 PM |
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By the end of the second round in this group stage of Champions League, there is only four teams that got 6 points: Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Barcelona and Real Madrid. These teams are serious contenders for the title this year especially Manchester City then comes the others. There is also unsuccessful teams like Manchester United and Dortmund in the bottom of the tables of their groups.. I think they will leave the competition at this stage, maybe it isn't a bad thing for them this season.
From what we've been able to see this season in the UEFA Champions League competition, it's very clear that the four teams that have won their first two matches of the UCL competition are surely the favourites to win the competition this season. Manchester City though haven't been at their best since the start of the season in terms of convincingly winning games like they were doing last season but they've been able to win their matches. Some of the club's first team players who were out injured are back to the squad which will further strengthen their performance
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October 05, 2023, 09:43:47 PM |
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By the end of the second round in this group stage of Champions League, there is only four teams that got 6 points: Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Barcelona and Real Madrid. These teams are serious contenders for the title this year especially Manchester City then comes the others. There is also unsuccessful teams like Manchester United and Dortmund in the bottom of the tables of their groups.. I think they will leave the competition at this stage, maybe it isn't a bad thing for them this season.
From what we've been able to see this season in the UEFA Champions League competition, it's very clear that the four teams that have won their first two matches of the UCL competition are surely the favourites to win the competition this season. Manchester City though haven't been at their best since the start of the season in terms of convincingly winning games like they were doing last season but they've been able to win their matches. Some of the club's first team players who were out injured are back to the squad which will further strengthen their performance Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid and Barcelona all won the first two matches. Undoubtedly, their performance was very good. I also consider Arsenal and Inter Milan as favourites. Both these teams have the potential to qualify for the semi-finals. On the other hand, I do not trust the performance of barcelona and Madrid. Barcelona's performance is still a bit slow. And Madrid's performance depends on their middle order. If Kross, Modric or Bellingham get injured in the middle order, I think Madrid's performance will deteriorate. Bayern Munich and Manchester City have the perfect squad to win this year's Champions League title. These two teams are very strong this season. They also have enough talented players in their squad.
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October 05, 2023, 09:48:29 PM |
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By the end of the second round in this group stage of Champions League, there is only four teams that got 6 points: Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Barcelona and Real Madrid. These teams are serious contenders for the title this year especially Manchester City then comes the others. There is also unsuccessful teams like Manchester United and Dortmund in the bottom of the tables of their groups.. I think they will leave the competition at this stage, maybe it isn't a bad thing for them this season.
You're right. Man City, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, and Barcelona got full points. They won all the early matches in the group stage. However, it is still too early that we assume these teams to win the UCL title although they are the most strongest teams in UCL this season. There will be always a chance for a surprise in UCL. TBH, I still expect that there will be some clubs to give a surprise. It will make UCL competition this season to be more interesting. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Regarding Dortmund and Man United, it is difficult for them to qualify for the next round. I agree that they seem leaving the competition early, eliminated in the group stage.
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October 05, 2023, 09:49:35 PM |
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In terms of play, Manchester United were indeed able to perform well and create dangerous attacks, but the carelessness of their own players made everything fall apart. Casemiro's red card gave Galatasaray more freedom, but Onana's poor performance was also the main cause of the defeat.
Onana's performance is really poor, his poor performance is really affecting Manchester United's performance. Onana was too hyped when he was about to be signed, but unfortunately, his performance is really poor. I just hope he will be able to improve his performance, or it’s really going to have a negative impact on Manchester United's performance. Manchester United's defense is also weak, that’s why Onana's weak performance is kind of obvious. If their defense is strong, they will be able to defend some balls that won’t get to their goalkeeper, and they will be able to cover up for Onana, so ten hag have to work on his defense and goalkeeper. Onana has been criticized for weeks for his performance. Altay Bayindir is a good goalkeeper. Erik ten Hag should give him a chance. Altay Bayindir can perform better than Onana these days. Galatasaray are becoming a better team day by day. After 3 weeks I have no doubt that we will see a better Galatasaray in the match against Bayern Munich. It's easy to say that already. I wish we had won against Copenhagen, then I would have been braver about our chances of qualifying for the next round.
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October 05, 2023, 09:52:24 PM |
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From what we've been able to see this season in the UEFA Champions League competition, it's very clear that the four teams that have won their first two matches of the UCL competition are surely the favourites to win the competition this season. Manchester City though haven't been at their best since the start of the season in terms of convincingly winning games like they were doing last season but they've been able to win their matches. Some of the club's first team players who were out injured are back to the squad which will further strengthen their performance
Among all the four teams that are currently leading their Groups with 6 points I consider City to be the strongest contenders for the trophy, the are the title defenders and are performing brilliantly even without one of their star player Kelvin Debruyne that contributed majorly to their success in winning the trophy last season, I won't be suprised if City reach the finals again or even with it this season. However Realmadrid and Barcelona are very serious this year in the Champions league and I believe both teams would go far especially Realmadrid that are looking to win back the Champions League trophy after an embarrassing disqualification last season by City, I'm not very sure about Bayern Munich their squad looks okay and they're doing fine in their group but I'm not quite sure if they're strong enough to reach the finals or semi's.
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October 05, 2023, 09:58:14 PM |
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Onana has been criticized for weeks for his performance. Altay Bayindir is a good goalkeeper. Erik ten Hag should give him a chance. Altay Bayindir can perform better than Onana these days.
Galatasaray are becoming a better team day by day. After 3 weeks I have no doubt that we will see a better Galatasaray in the match against Bayern Munich. It's easy to say that already. I wish we had won against Copenhagen, then I would have been braver about our chances of qualifying for the next round.
Altay Bayindir has been known as a promising goalkeeper for a long time. However he started to make simple mistakes at Fenerbahce and this went on for some time until leaving the team. But I don't also believe he is a bad goalkeeper in fact. He must have lost his concentration in the recent times which must have led to that result. While Onana is making mistakes quite often Altay might be really given a chance by Erik ten Hag soon. They don't have anything to lose about this topic. If not much thing changes then they have nothing to do other than waiting for one of their goalkeepers to improve or signing a new goalkeeper.
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