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October 05, 2023, 11:24:04 PM
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I dont know many more times Onana needs to make a mistake so that he gets removed from the first lineup. With all of these mistakes i dont think the bench keeper can do worst. He can do only better. I dont know why Man Utd still hasnt sacked Ten Hag after all of this losses.
Well, considering how ten Hag treated de Gea disgracefully for the sake of his pet Onana joining the team, then the credit of trust should be great and I think this goalkeeper will still please us with his funny blunders. By the way, as far as I remember, Manchester United are happy with Ten Hag's results and want to offer him a contract extension. However, even if there are some doubts about Ten Hag's prospects at Manchester United, I think that the club's management will not decide on his dismissal until the MU is finally sold to someone by the Glazer family.
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October 05, 2023, 11:27:05 PM
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I really appreciated Feyenoord's high level dedication. In the end it isn't easy to get ahead 2 times against a team like Atletico Madrid in an away match. But all that effort was still not enough to steal any point. The player I liked the most in this match was Alvaro Morata. He played a big role in the 3-2 win by scoring 2 goals.

Aside from that Morata is really fired up this season. He scored 7 goals in 8 matches so far. This is just something new we see from him.  Grin  It is like this is the season that he proves he isn't actually a very overrated striker.
In UCL, we should permanently erased the mindset of underestimating teams because there's basically no average team here, infact for a club to be among the best four teams in a league, it means they're very competitive and strong enough to handle tough games in UCL. Feyenoord starting the game with brilliant performance from the players but failed to balance the game till the end, not after a comeback win from Atletico Madrid who were also incredibly impacted. Diego Simeone have targets lay out for this season and he's ambitious on achieving them without within the range of time set.

Diego Simeone and his team didn't have a good performance at all against Feyenoord, they won the game against Feyenoord with a 3-2 result but the performance of Feyenoord in this game was much better than Atletico Marid and I think after Atletico Madrid made sure about the three points they scored, Diego Simeone tried to use defensive strategy and they just wanted to take the three points from this match.
Even Diego Simeone after the game said Feyenoord performed better than us.
 

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October 05, 2023, 11:32:47 PM
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The match between AC Milan and Dortmund ended with 0-0 result and they got one point from this match but Rafael Leão, the palyer of AC Milan seems very unhappy about this. After the match against Dortmund, he said just like in the game against Newcastle they could make enough opportunities in this game but they could score a goal and this result was not good for them.

Acmilan performed as bad as dortmund. It's unimaginable to see acmilan will not be qualified for the play off yet everything can change any time. It's likely acmilan will use everything to get points in upcoming match. Leao feels so badly with acmilan's performance last nights.
There must be some improvements to happen. Acmilan needs to win against PSG soon. This is the only choice owned by arsenal. Losing against PSG will put acmilan in a difficult situation caused by the chance to pass the group stage will be really small. Acmilan needs to equalize its points to the another club which was also placing above acmlan right now. I hope that pioli will try to do something like doing another strategy or rotation that will be very helpful for the club.
There would be no player who feel happy without achieving three points to pass the group stage. Acmilan played so horribly these days. Its gameplay is good but the attacking line was terrible to watch.

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October 05, 2023, 11:54:19 PM
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But yes, I don't know in how far ten Hag is involved in transfer decisions and whether he has a lot to say in the club when it comes to player transfers, but there have been some questionable decisions in the recent past.

I don't think he is entirely to blame for Manchester United's poor form. In the past they have spent millions of dollars on players like Jadon Sancho, Harry Maguire and Anthony Martial and they have never benefited from them. So, there is a long history of bad and wrong transfer policy at Manchester United. They are like Chelsea, but not as bad as Chelsea. :) I don't think Erik ten Hag has a squad that can compete with his rivals. Manchester United need a lot of transfers and they have almost no chance of winning the Champions League.

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October 06, 2023, 12:04:48 AM
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But yes, I don't know in how far ten Hag is involved in transfer decisions and whether he has a lot to say in the club when it comes to player transfers, but there have been some questionable decisions in the recent past.

I don't think he is entirely to blame for Manchester United's poor form. In the past they have spent millions of dollars on players like Jadon Sancho, Harry Maguire and Anthony Martial and they have never benefited from them. So, there is a long history of bad and wrong transfer policy at Manchester United. They are like Chelsea, but not as bad as Chelsea. Smiley I don't think Erik ten Hag has a squad that can compete with his rivals. Manchester United need a lot of transfers and they have almost no chance of winning the Champions League.

Ten hag who had been initiating a phenomenal transfer to buy mount from chelsea with a very high price and he can't even deliver till now. There was something wrong with ten hag at this moment. It's likely people are still willing to blame him.
Onana's performance is still far from what we have expected. I thought that he will be better than the dea but i probably wrong here. Manchester united needs to sell a lot of its defenders first.
Ten hag needs to revamp the defensive line. Some defenders need to be replaced caused by their performance were always being too inconsistent.

Ten hag's squad is still far from good. I don't even think if ten hag will try to solve this problem in winter. It seems like that everything has become even harder than before.
It needs many season to solve the problems owned by manchester united at this moment. Ten hag is very struggling in find the best solution the problem owned by manchester united.

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October 06, 2023, 12:12:02 AM
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In the UEFA Champions League today Newcastle vs PSG team's performance was very good. Newcastle team won the match by 4 goals. But PSG team player scored 1 goal in the match. PSG team player L. Hernández scored 1 goal in 56 minutes. However.  L. Hernández he played very well in this match. If PSG team could have played well from the beginning in this match, maybe they could have scored some more goals. But PSG team's goalkeeper did not play very well for which PSG team lost the match by 4 goals.
An extraordinary performance for Newcastle was able to win the match against PSG with a divorce score of 4:1, now he has managed to lead the top of the standings in Group F.
defeat PSG was a shame and Mbappe couldn't score a goal for PSG, even though PSG completely dominated possession of the ball, PSG still couldn't beat Newscatle in this away match.
Newcastle managed to maximize the match at home to be able to steal points from PSG. I admit that the performance of the Newcastle team was quite strong and they were able to work together well, their solidarity was high.
The season is still long and PSG still has the opportunity to occupy first place because PSG is only 1 point behind Newcastle. Luis Enrique must maximize their club's performance even more.
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October 06, 2023, 12:34:30 AM
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Well, considering how ten Hag treated de Gea disgracefully for the sake of his pet Onana joining the team, then the credit of trust should be great and I think this goalkeeper will still please us with his funny blunders. By the way, as far as I remember, Manchester United are happy with Ten Hag's results and want to offer him a contract extension. However, even if there are some doubts about Ten Hag's prospects at Manchester United, I think that the club's management will not decide on his dismissal until the MU is finally sold to someone by the Glazer family.

Onana has the support of Ten Hag and thinks he would rise above all this and perform much better. I would like to see some better performance from the goalie as he was rumored to be much better than De Gea. But with his recent performance, perhaps De Gea would have been much better defending the goal posts.
I think a lot of people were initially happy when Ten Hag finalized the deal that would bring him into the club from Inter. I know I was.  But his performance and the team altogether hasn’t been reliable despite all the moves and preparations taken before the start of the new season.

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October 06, 2023, 02:14:44 AM
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But yes, I don't know in how far ten Hag is involved in transfer decisions and whether he has a lot to say in the club when it comes to player transfers, but there have been some questionable decisions in the recent past.

I don't think he is entirely to blame for Manchester United's poor form. In the past they have spent millions of dollars on players like Jadon Sancho, Harry Maguire and Anthony Martial and they have never benefited from them. So, there is a long history of bad and wrong transfer policy at Manchester United. They are like Chelsea, but not as bad as Chelsea. Smiley I don't think Erik ten Hag has a squad that can compete with his rivals. Manchester United need a lot of transfers and they have almost no chance of winning the Champions League.
No matter how anyone will try to exenorate Erik Ten Hang from the poor performance of Manchester United, it cannot be done successfully. Whether or not is Erik Ten Hang is involved in the transfer decision of Manchester United is another story and should not be used to cover his lapses
Last season, Manchester United performed better with almost the same players they have now. The difference is that more players like Mount who is becoming totally unproductive was signed. How will anyone convince me that Erik Ten Hang does not have influence over the signing of Onana and Mount, yet he has influence over the dismissal of Ronaldo.
Erik Ten Hang need to fall back to basics and correct his errors.

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But yes, I don't know in how far ten Hag is involved in transfer decisions and whether he has a lot to say in the club when it comes to player transfers, but there have been some questionable decisions in the recent past.

I don't think he is entirely to blame for Manchester United's poor form. In the past they have spent millions of dollars on players like Jadon Sancho, Harry Maguire and Anthony Martial and they have never benefited from them. So, there is a long history of bad and wrong transfer policy at Manchester United. They are like Chelsea, but not as bad as Chelsea. Smiley I don't think Erik ten Hag has a squad that can compete with his rivals. Manchester United need a lot of transfers and they have almost no chance of winning the Champions League.

Ten hag who had been initiating a phenomenal transfer to buy mount from chelsea with a very high price and he can't even deliver till now. There was something wrong with ten hag at this moment. It's likely people are still willing to blame him.
Onana's performance is still far from what we have expected. I thought that he will be better than the dea but i probably wrong here. Manchester united needs to sell a lot of its defenders first.
Ten hag needs to revamp the defensive line. Some defenders need to be replaced caused by their performance were always being too inconsistent.

Ten hag's squad is still far from good. I don't even think if ten hag will try to solve this problem in winter. It seems like that everything has become even harder than before.
It needs many season to solve the problems owned by manchester united at this moment. Ten hag is very struggling in find the best solution the problem owned by manchester united.

Erik ten Hag will of course do his best for the Red Devils so they can win again, but there are a lot of bad comments about the current Manchester United goalkeeper. Onana has had a bad start at Old Trafford, Onana has shown poor performance this season and so far Onana has conceded 18 goals in 10 matches. Apart from that, he also often makes blunders which are detrimental to Manchester United, but Erik ten Hag certainly provides support for Onana to play better and play to the maximum. Onana is now getting a bad response from the Red Devils fans who must be evaluated to replace Onana with a new goalkeeper.

There are several goalkeepers who will replace Onana at this time, but it is not clear from the news whether this Onana will be evaluated or not, of course with support from Erik Ten Hag, Onana should be able to play optimally, rumors are that De Gea could also replace Onana's current position. getting a bad response at the moment, onana's sloppy appearance to the point that someone commented "you are a goalkeeper, not a tramp" there are a lot of bad comments about the Red Devils goalkeeper, as soon as possible, Erik Ten Hag must solve these problems in order to bring the Red Devils to victory.

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Onana has been criticized for weeks for his performance. Altay Bayindir is a good goalkeeper. Erik ten Hag should give him a chance. Altay Bayindir can perform better than Onana these days.

Galatasaray are becoming a better team day by day. After 3 weeks I have no doubt that we will see a better Galatasaray in the match against Bayern Munich. It's easy to say that already. I wish we had won against Copenhagen, then I would have been braver about our chances of qualifying for the next round.
After conceding 14 goals in his first six Manchester United appearances, the spotlight has been already burning on Onana in an uncomfortable way. But I don’t think his dip in form would make Ten Hag drop him to the bench for his second Goalkeeper  to start. Honestly, It doesn't help, of course, that he has been dropped into a dysfunctional United team who seem to have painfully regressed from last season. It may look like he’s conceding too many goals but so many of them were preventable if only Manchester United's defenders and midfielders were more organised.



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I watched Atletico Madrid - Feyenoord match partially. I feel like Feyenoord was performing really good - I think they should not have been demotivated and lose. They are very competitive team.
Newcastle United - PSG match was very enjoyable tho. Newcastle united seemed very solid there and got clean fair win against PSG. I hope we can watch them more in next round as I really like such solid teams fighting lot and beating bigger ones.
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October 06, 2023, 04:57:24 AM
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After conceding 14 goals in his first six Manchester United appearances, the spotlight has been already burning on Onana in an uncomfortable way. But I don’t think his dip in form would make Ten Hag drop him to the bench for his second Goalkeeper  to start. Honestly, It doesn't help, of course, that he has been dropped into a dysfunctional United team who seem to have painfully regressed from last season. It may look like he’s conceding too many goals but so many of them were preventable if only Manchester United's defenders and midfielders were more organised.
Having many conceded goals is not good for a goalkeeper but it is not most terrible. It seems Onana starts to lose his confidence and make more mistakes. The inaccurate pass to Casemiro that directly caused a penalty for Manchester United and a red card for Casemiro are nightmare for him. Later Manchester United got a decisive conceded goal and lost the match but the worse thing is they will not have Casemiro in a next match.

We know Casemiro is very important for defensive system of Manchester United and he contributed well for them in corner kicks as well. Without Casemiro, Manchester United will play a next match with a weaker midfield and a next match will decide they can continue to keep up their hope in Champions League or will have to play in Europa League again.

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October 06, 2023, 05:04:44 AM
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But yes, I don't know in how far ten Hag is involved in transfer decisions and whether he has a lot to say in the club when it comes to player transfers, but there have been some questionable decisions in the recent past.

I don't think he is entirely to blame for Manchester United's poor form. In the past they have spent millions of dollars on players like Jadon Sancho, Harry Maguire and Anthony Martial and they have never benefited from them. So, there is a long history of bad and wrong transfer policy at Manchester United. They are like Chelsea, but not as bad as Chelsea. Smiley I don't think Erik ten Hag has a squad that can compete with his rivals. Manchester United need a lot of transfers and they have almost no chance of winning the Champions League.
Ten Hag was able to manage the Manchester United squad well in the first season of his career there, Manchester United performed better under his guidance and ultimately managed to qualify for the Champions League this season. At that time he inherited the squad left by the previous coach, although there were several additional players during the season, but Manchester United's performance was much better than this season.
The current Manchester United squad is predominantly filled with players appointed directly by Ten Hag, but strangely he seems to have lost direction in managing Manchester United. I think Manchester United poor performance is not due to a bad transfer policy, but because Ten Hag ability is starting to decline in managing Manchester United.
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Ten Hag was able to manage the Manchester United squad well in the first season of his career there, Manchester United performed better under his guidance and ultimately managed to qualify for the Champions League this season. At that time he inherited the squad left by the previous coach, although there were several additional players during the season, but Manchester United's performance was much better than this season.
The current Manchester United squad is predominantly filled with players appointed directly by Ten Hag, but strangely he seems to have lost direction in managing Manchester United. I think Manchester United poor performance is not due to a bad transfer policy, but because Ten Hag ability is starting to decline in managing Manchester United.
Manchester United have zero points, poor performance in UCL and EPL. Erik Ten Hag had complications with key players who would have aided in comprehending the team's performance, I'm not talking about average players but key ones like Cristiano Ronaldo who delivered the team in crucial moments, yet he was underrated in the team because he was completely out of the picture in Erik Ten Hag's eyes, he favored the young ones instead of employing more qualities of Ronaldo among the average players. Manchester United is suffering today as a result of past mistakes made by the club and coach.

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Ten Hag was able to manage the Manchester United squad well in the first season of his career there, Manchester United performed better under his guidance and ultimately managed to qualify for the Champions League this season. At that time he inherited the squad left by the previous coach, although there were several additional players during the season, but Manchester United's performance was much better than this season.
The current Manchester United squad is predominantly filled with players appointed directly by Ten Hag, but strangely he seems to have lost direction in managing Manchester United. I think Manchester United poor performance is not due to a bad transfer policy, but because Ten Hag ability is starting to decline in managing Manchester United.
Manchester United have zero points, poor performance in UCL and EPL. Erik Ten Hag had complications with key players who would have aided in comprehending the team's performance, I'm not talking about average players but key ones like Cristiano Ronaldo who delivered the team in crucial moments, yet he was underrated in the team because he was completely out of the picture in Erik Ten Hag's eyes, he favored the young ones instead of employing more qualities of Ronaldo among the average players. Manchester United is suffering today as a result of past mistakes made by the club and coach.
IMO we can't talk about Cristiano when Manchester United are having problems at the moment because at the moment Cristiano and Manchester United have their own way and they have been separated long enough not to be brought up again.
Manchester United's first 2 games haven't gone very well for them but the opportunity is still there just that they have to get 3 points from Copenhagen at all costs so that this can make them breathe a little easier.

The problem is that this is not as easy as it would be imagined especially when Manchester United's performance remains the same as now then it is certain that this will be even more difficult especially with the defense that Copenhagen showed against Bayern should Ten Hag already know this will be tough and when they lose in the worst possible way in this match then it is over for Manchester Unitd.
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Well, considering how ten Hag treated de Gea disgracefully for the sake of his pet Onana joining the team, then the credit of trust should be great and I think this goalkeeper will still please us with his funny blunders. By the way, as far as I remember, Manchester United are happy with Ten Hag's results and want to offer him a contract extension. However, even if there are some doubts about Ten Hag's prospects at Manchester United, I think that the club's management will not decide on his dismissal until the MU is finally sold to someone by the Glazer family.

Onana has the support of Ten Hag and thinks he would rise above all this and perform much better. I would like to see some better performance from the goalie as he was rumored to be much better than De Gea. But with his recent performance, perhaps De Gea would have been much better defending the goal posts.
I think a lot of people were initially happy when Ten Hag finalized the deal that would bring him into the club from Inter. I know I was.  But his performance and the team altogether hasn’t been reliable despite all the moves and preparations taken before the start of the new season.
I think Erik Ten Hag's support is just a shame that he is covering up because he failed to recruit a goalkeeper for Manchester United and regardless of the results, Manchester United is much worse off since the arrival of Andre Onana. Certainly the fans have regretted having hoped more for Andre Onana and the decision to throw away David De Gea is the biggest loss so far for Manchester United.

We cannot compare goalkeepers who have much more experience at a club over the seasons and as a coach Erik Ten Hag should have known that his decision was quite risky by relying on Onana who was only good at taking Inter to the Champions League final last season.
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But yes, I don't know in how far ten Hag is involved in transfer decisions and whether he has a lot to say in the club when it comes to player transfers, but there have been some questionable decisions in the recent past.

I don't think he is entirely to blame for Manchester United's poor form. In the past they have spent millions of dollars on players like Jadon Sancho, Harry Maguire and Anthony Martial and they have never benefited from them. So, there is a long history of bad and wrong transfer policy at Manchester United. They are like Chelsea, but not as bad as Chelsea. Smiley I don't think Erik ten Hag has a squad that can compete with his rivals. Manchester United need a lot of transfers and they have almost no chance of winning the Champions League.
If that is the solution for Manchester United, the most supportive agreement should be in Glazer's hands. However, as we know, Glazer was indifferent to transfers last season and only provided limited funds to buy a few players. Erik Ten Hag also deserves to be blamed. Remember that the rules of the game are in his hands. It's no longer a problem with the players you have because if we compare them with Chelsea, then Manchester United players still have the advantage. Erik Ten Hag doesn't seem to have moved on from Ajax. Starting from the players he bought and the strategy he implemented are not much different from what Erik Ten Hag adopted at Ajax.

Now, if you look at the latest news, it is certain that Erik Ten Hag's fate at Manchester United will continue to be extended and so far Manchester United has no plans to fire him. So for fans of The Red Devil, this is the time to enjoy the long process with great patience.

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Well, considering how ten Hag treated de Gea disgracefully for the sake of his pet Onana joining the team, then the credit of trust should be great and I think this goalkeeper will still please us with his funny blunders. By the way, as far as I remember, Manchester United are happy with Ten Hag's results and want to offer him a contract extension. However, even if there are some doubts about Ten Hag's prospects at Manchester United, I think that the club's management will not decide on his dismissal until the MU is finally sold to someone by the Glazer family.

Onana has the support of Ten Hag and thinks he would rise above all this and perform much better. I would like to see some better performance from the goalie as he was rumored to be much better than De Gea. But with his recent performance, perhaps De Gea would have been much better defending the goal posts.
I think a lot of people were initially happy when Ten Hag finalized the deal that would bring him into the club from Inter. I know I was.  But his performance and the team altogether hasn’t been reliable despite all the moves and preparations taken before the start of the new season.
I think Erik Ten Hag's support is just a shame that he is covering up because he failed to recruit a goalkeeper for Manchester United and regardless of the results, Manchester United is much worse off since the arrival of Andre Onana. Certainly the fans have regretted having hoped more for Andre Onana and the decision to throw away David De Gea is the biggest loss so far for Manchester United.

We cannot compare goalkeepers who have much more experience at a club over the seasons and as a coach Erik Ten Hag should have known that his decision was quite risky by relying on Onana who was only good at taking Inter to the Champions League final last season.

Well it is not the goalkeeper fault most of the times unless he concedes goals with shots from distance frequently which is not the case.Andre Onana shined really bright at Inter Milan and he surely is better for me as a goalkeeper compared to De Gea who had his time at Manchester United.

Manchester is weak this year in almost every sector from defense to attack and I agree the only one at fault this season is Ten Haag,he started doing well in the previous season when he just got Manchester United but this time he is not doing anything good so far.

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October 06, 2023, 06:48:54 AM
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But yes, I don't know in how far ten Hag is involved in transfer decisions and whether he has a lot to say in the club when it comes to player transfers, but there have been some questionable decisions in the recent past.

I don't think he is entirely to blame for Manchester United's poor form. In the past they have spent millions of dollars on players like Jadon Sancho, Harry Maguire and Anthony Martial and they have never benefited from them. So, there is a long history of bad and wrong transfer policy at Manchester United. They are like Chelsea, but not as bad as Chelsea. Smiley I don't think Erik ten Hag has a squad that can compete with his rivals. Manchester United need a lot of transfers and they have almost no chance of winning the Champions League.
Ten hag is very much involved and have a great influence on transfer decision in Manchester united, at the end of last season he was given good amount of money to get players for the team, according to speculations he was given a 100% authority on decision as it regards transfer so he could get the best players he knows he can work with and achieve a good result for the team.

I think ten hag has the full blame when it comes to transfer errors because he was allowed to make choices for the team but sadly his choices has not been able to favour the team enough, or maybe are they new player yet to get used to the teams style and the environment? I really don't think because they have gotten more than enough time to do that already so it's expected by now they have gone passed that stage.

Onana is one of his worse transfer error he did this season, even Maguire hasn't been the best compared to when he was still in his formal team, Martial has even performed better when he was still in Chelsea than he has been in old Trafford, almost all the new signed players are still glorified in the past they are yet to prove something spectacular for the present and Manchester united did spent heavily on them.

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October 06, 2023, 07:35:50 AM
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Manchester United have zero points, poor performance in UCL and EPL. Erik Ten Hag had complications with key players who would have aided in comprehending the team's performance, I'm not talking about average players but key ones like Cristiano Ronaldo who delivered the team in crucial moments, yet he was underrated in the team because he was completely out of the picture in Erik Ten Hag's eyes, he favored the young ones instead of employing more qualities of Ronaldo among the average players. Manchester United is suffering today as a result of past mistakes made by the club and coach.
Manchester United situation is getting more difficult after experiencing two consecutive defeats in the UCL, they have also conceded 7 goals in these two games. This situation forces Manchester United to have to win the remaining four matches in order to advance to the knockout phase of the Champions League this season, but their hopes are very small due to the inconsistent performance shown so far.

In fact, Manchester United already has quality players, but due to several factors that occur, Manchester United players have difficulty understanding each other's games. Ten Hag must realize he is leading Manchester United in the UCL, this is not a local competition played in 38 matches, the slightest mistake they make can be punished by their opponents which makes it difficult for them to qualify for the next round.
Ten Hag has been facing a difficult situation since taking charge of Manchester United, he has been constantly bombarded with criticism for Manchester United's recent poor performance. I think dismissal is inevitable if Ten Hag fails to bring Manchester United through to the knockout stages of the Champions League.

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