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August 08, 2023, 06:34:46 AM
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If we are talking about lotteries that have a government in organizers - it is another situation as for me. You have the same chances to get prize, but you don`t spend your "coffee" to make someone rich. The government may spend this money not as you want, but anyway at least the part of your coffee will make your country better. In such situation i can spend may coffee in a lottery ticket i think.
There are really just those people who are really that skeptical towards the government in speaking about taxes and whatever correlated to it on which it would really be just that normal on having that kind of

approach knowing that we are living on a wicked world and wicked government then its not surprising that people would already having those kind of doubts on which it is really just that normal on having that assumptions towards it. As for odds or chances then no matter where we do talk or places we are speaking about those lotteries then how many digit would really be the main factor on which it would really be changing up the chances for it to be get hit. The lesser the numbers the higher the chance on hitting and vice versa.

This is why when you do make out some lottery bets then it would really be just that normal that you would really be needing yourself dont expect that much on winning
because we know the odds are really that close to impossible.
It doesn`t matter how much money would be stolen - it would be stolen anyway and it doesn`t matter if it would be the income from the lottery of something else. In any case some part of them will be spent to make your country better. Even if the main part would be stolen.
The only thing you have think about is what would be better for you - a cup of coffee or very-very-very small chance to win big prize with small cashback for your country.


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August 08, 2023, 09:14:52 AM
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I`ve never dreamed about super prize. For me it was like to pay percent for luck. After i stopped, i decided to read some more information about lotteries and knew that there is a percent that the organizer must pay as prizes. And usually it is about 50% from the sum of the sold tickets. The winner here is only organizer.
The new dreamers mostly bad in maths i think.
Yeah, you quite rightly noted that such "dreamers to win the lottery" have a very bad situation with their knowledge in the field of mathematics.   Smiley
But the organizers of various lotteries are just doing very well with knowledge of mathematics and this is an irresistible driving force in order to  so that lotteries continue indefinitely all over the world, and at the same time, more and more new modifications of this process would constantly appear.   And I thimk what percentage of the total lottery ticket collection money the lottery organizers receive, this is a big big secret. If the lottery is really very large, covering the sale of millions of lottery tickets, then the organizers' revenue is unlikely to be 50%, it is, I think,  less, of course, but still it should be very large... And in a number of jurisdictions, as I think, there are legislative restrictions on the profit from the activities of lottery organizers. 
But in any case, the organizers are very good with mathematics.  And with the amount of income from the lottery, too.  Smiley

people need up to experience or realize first on what are the reality on something before they would really be able to learn on how to deal with it.
Absolutely correct remark. 

Here the question in general is how much time and attempts to play the lottery does it take for a person to realize that the probability of a really big win is so minimal that it is not worth doing it at all. 
And this is where people differ significantly from each other.  It is enough for someone to buy a lottery ticket once and lose. 
And never again buy such lottery tickets.  And another person (according to my observations, this is more typical of women) can generally buy lottery tickets all his life until old age.  Apparently this is due to some kind of inner convictions of a person, his dreamy character, an optimistic outlook on life and other manifestations of the individual psyche. 
But of course, on average, the average person still stops buying lottery tickets after a year or two or three, after trying it for the first time.  And most likely will never do it again in later life.

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August 08, 2023, 02:45:25 PM
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Now that's what happened because lottery tickets have a fairly cheap price, even when today the gambler is not lucky to win, he can still buy it again tomorrow with a smile and usually people like this are just waiting for luck to come in the having the jackpot one day.
But it's hard to get even a winning percentage to reach the jackpot point, it's impossible for everyone to have.

I think they will also stop buying lottery tickets when they are fed up with losing or even spend all the money they have to buy lots of lottery tickets to have more chances.
Because it's cheap, people are still interested in buying it, and some even buy tickets in large quantities. But most of them are not lucky because there are people who only buy a few tickets but instead manage to win the jackpot and they are the ones who are lucky. But people never stop buying because they keep waiting their turn to get lucky so they can win.

They will not stop even when they have won the jackpot. They want an even bigger jackpot, so they keep buying the tickets. Buying lottery tickets is an addiction when they know their luck is very hard to come by.

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August 08, 2023, 03:00:08 PM
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Now that's what happened because lottery tickets have a fairly cheap price, even when today the gambler is not lucky to win, he can still buy it again tomorrow with a smile and usually people like this are just waiting for luck to come in the having the jackpot one day.
But it's hard to get even a winning percentage to reach the jackpot point, it's impossible for everyone to have.

I think they will also stop buying lottery tickets when they are fed up with losing or even spend all the money they have to buy lots of lottery tickets to have more chances.
Because it's cheap, people are still interested in buying it, and some even buy tickets in large quantities. But most of them are not lucky because there are people who only buy a few tickets but instead manage to win the jackpot and they are the ones who are lucky. But people never stop buying because they keep waiting their turn to get lucky so they can win.

They will not stop even when they have won the jackpot. They want an even bigger jackpot, so they keep buying the tickets. Buying lottery tickets is an addiction when they know their luck is very hard to come by.
I see no difference with playing gambling games, betting on sports and buying lottery tickets, the same way people are buying lottery tickets hoping to win the jackpot some day, even when they have done this for several years with no luck, same also we can find gamblers who have been playing slot, casino games, or betting on sports matches for several years without hitting any significant winning, and yet, they never give up, they keep trying, keep pushing and hoping that one day, luck will smile on them.

So that spirit of never giving is not something that is peculiar to lottery players alone, it is very common in the amongst gamblers, and I personally do not see any crime in that as long as the gambler or player have other dependable sources of income that helps support their gambling or lottery playing activities, as well helps keep the player and his or her family well and away from financial crises. 

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August 08, 2023, 04:21:10 PM
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So that spirit of never giving is not something that is peculiar to lottery players alone, it is very common in the amongst gamblers, and I personally do not see any crime in that as long as the gambler or player have other dependable sources of income that helps support their gambling or lottery playing activities, as well helps keep the player and his or her family well and away from financial crises. 

In addition to your input, It’s very hard to become addicted on lottery because there’s only few games available per day and placing bets on regular basis is very time consuming since you will need to go personally on a lottery outlet just to bet. Typically, lotter players only place bet during specific day per week except for those who reside near a lottery outlet.

Nevertheless, Lottery addiction is much more mild than the typical casino addiction because of the slow phase of the game. Buying bulk tickets is just more on a hobby instead of addiction because he can only place limited bets on every draw due to time constraints of the game.

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August 09, 2023, 03:49:44 AM
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I see no difference with playing gambling games, betting on sports and buying lottery tickets, the same way people are buying lottery tickets hoping to win the jackpot some day, even when they have done this for several years with no luck, same also we can find gamblers who have been playing slot, casino games, or betting on sports matches for several years without hitting any significant winning, and yet, they never give up, they keep trying, keep pushing and hoping that one day, luck will smile on them.

So that spirit of never giving is not something that is peculiar to lottery players alone, it is very common in the amongst gamblers, and I personally do not see any crime in that as long as the gambler or player have other dependable sources of income that helps support their gambling or lottery playing activities, as well helps keep the player and his or her family well and away from financial crises. 
That means gambling games can make people keep coming back to gambling no matter what results they get. It was as if something was lacking in their everyday life if they went one day without gambling. And fortunately, buying lottery tickets is cheap so people can buy them every day and it doesn't seem to be a burden for them because they still keep hoping to hit the jackpot. And when someone wins the jackpot, they are even more excited to keep buying lottery tickets, especially if the winner is their neighbor. They will buy lottery tickets more and more often as if the time for them to become winners is approaching.

And it seems that the people who keep buying lottery tickets also have an income to keep buying lottery tickets and only focus on the lottery and not other gambling games. But what is expected when they become winners is that they can really change their lives because, at that time, they already have a lot of money to fulfill their needs without difficulty.

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August 09, 2023, 03:36:59 PM
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I see no difference with playing gambling games, betting on sports and buying lottery tickets, the same way people are buying lottery tickets hoping to win the jackpot some day, even when they have done this for several years with no luck, same also we can find gamblers who have been playing slot, casino games, or betting on sports matches for several years without hitting any significant winning, and yet, they never give up, they keep trying, keep pushing and hoping that one day, luck will smile on them.

So that spirit of never giving is not something that is peculiar to lottery players alone, it is very common in the amongst gamblers, and I personally do not see any crime in that as long as the gambler or player have other dependable sources of income that helps support their gambling or lottery playing activities, as well helps keep the player and his or her family well and away from financial crises. 
That means gambling games can make people keep coming back to gambling no matter what results they get. It was as if something was lacking in their everyday life if they went one day without gambling. And fortunately, buying lottery tickets is cheap so people can buy them every day and it doesn't seem to be a burden for them because they still keep hoping to hit the jackpot. And when someone wins the jackpot, they are even more excited to keep buying lottery tickets, especially if the winner is their neighbor. They will buy lottery tickets more and more often as if the time for them to become winners is approaching.

And it seems that the people who keep buying lottery tickets also have an income to keep buying lottery tickets and only focus on the lottery and not other gambling games. But what is expected when they become winners is that they can really change their lives because, at that time, they already have a lot of money to fulfill their needs without difficulty.

Well, it's quite interesting to know your point of view, but buying lottery tickets, maybe playing slots in casinos, can mean the same thing, the odds are very scattered if you try to win, however I lean towards something, yes We need to do something with more proecision and use our knowledge in sports, I think that when we do sports betting there are more chances of winning for us as punters, at least in boxing, UFC, football I feel that I have a very good chance of winning when I predict the results, That is to say, to win or lose, the exact scores, well, I do appreciate that it is at another level of difficulty, but based on the sports activities, if we take them to the level of sports betting, if I am inclined, there are more chances of winning. In fact, many casino and betting players put sports betting as their first option because it is easier to win, or for some it is easier.

I say these things because most of the time when we have run into some friends, who know a lot about football, they are very aware of each game, of each movie made by the players, coaches, championships, the news is up to date. Many sports channels are up to date, in fact on the internet, on Instagram and social networks because they are kept very up to date, and by having so much information about a specific sport or match, predictions can be made that are probably very close to whatever is going to happen, then for me that means that the chances of winning in a sports bet are greater than winning in any casino game, as long as the bettor knows about the sport, otherwise if he bets for the sake of betting and by sheer luck, because it would no longer fall into the category, because it is simply gambling, which for me no longer makes any kind of sense, everything would go to another level, however, that point is what I want to highlight.

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August 10, 2023, 06:30:02 AM
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Well, it's quite interesting to know your point of view, but buying lottery tickets, maybe playing slots in casinos, can mean the same thing, the odds are very scattered if you try to win, however I lean towards something, yes We need to do something with more proecision and use our knowledge in sports, I think that when we do sports betting there are more chances of winning for us as punters, at least in boxing, UFC, football I feel that I have a very good chance of winning when I predict the results, That is to say, to win or lose, the exact scores, well, I do appreciate that it is at another level of difficulty, but based on the sports activities, if we take them to the level of sports betting, if I am inclined, there are more chances of winning. In fact, many casino and betting players put sports betting as their first option because it is easier to win, or for some it is easier.

I say these things because most of the time when we have run into some friends, who know a lot about football, they are very aware of each game, of each movie made by the players, coaches, championships, the news is up to date. Many sports channels are up to date, in fact on the internet, on Instagram and social networks because they are kept very up to date, and by having so much information about a specific sport or match, predictions can be made that are probably very close to whatever is going to happen, then for me that means that the chances of winning in a sports bet are greater than winning in any casino game, as long as the bettor knows about the sport, otherwise if he bets for the sake of betting and by sheer luck, because it would no longer fall into the category, because it is simply gambling, which for me no longer makes any kind of sense, everything would go to another level, however, that point is what I want to highlight.
It depends on your enjoyment of gambling games because many people like sports betting more than other gambling games and think they have more luck at sports betting, so they make sports betting their main gambling game. But people who bought lottery tickets a long time ago or even a few years ago will still buy them and will not move to other gambling games, even just to play slots, which are both luck-based gambling games.

This depends on their preference for the gambling game because if they see around them that many people are buying lottery tickets and someone has managed to win regardless of the number, it will make them want to try to get a win too. And environmental factors also influence a person to choose his gambling game and he will also follow what other people play. But if no one is gambling in his neighbourhood, he may find someone else and share his favourite game. When they talk, there will be curiosity about the gambling games they often play and it will make them want to try them even though they don't have sufficient knowledge about them.

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August 11, 2023, 03:37:12 PM
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Well, it's quite interesting to know your point of view, but buying lottery tickets, maybe playing slots in casinos, can mean the same thing, the odds are very scattered if you try to win, however I lean towards something, yes We need to do something with more proecision and use our knowledge in sports, I think that when we do sports betting there are more chances of winning for us as punters, at least in boxing, UFC, football I feel that I have a very good chance of winning when I predict the results, That is to say, to win or lose, the exact scores, well, I do appreciate that it is at another level of difficulty, but based on the sports activities, if we take them to the level of sports betting, if I am inclined, there are more chances of winning. In fact, many casino and betting players put sports betting as their first option because it is easier to win, or for some it is easier.

I say these things because most of the time when we have run into some friends, who know a lot about football, they are very aware of each game, of each movie made by the players, coaches, championships, the news is up to date. Many sports channels are up to date, in fact on the internet, on Instagram and social networks because they are kept very up to date, and by having so much information about a specific sport or match, predictions can be made that are probably very close to whatever is going to happen, then for me that means that the chances of winning in a sports bet are greater than winning in any casino game, as long as the bettor knows about the sport, otherwise if he bets for the sake of betting and by sheer luck, because it would no longer fall into the category, because it is simply gambling, which for me no longer makes any kind of sense, everything would go to another level, however, that point is what I want to highlight.
It depends on your enjoyment of gambling games because many people like sports betting more than other gambling games and think they have more luck at sports betting, so they make sports betting their main gambling game. But people who bought lottery tickets a long time ago or even a few years ago will still buy them and will not move to other gambling games, even just to play slots, which are both luck-based gambling games.

This depends on their preference for the gambling game because if they see around them that many people are buying lottery tickets and someone has managed to win regardless of the number, it will make them want to try to get a win too. And environmental factors also influence a person to choose his gambling game and he will also follow what other people play. But if no one is gambling in his neighbourhood, he may find someone else and share his favourite game. When they talk, there will be curiosity about the gambling games they often play and it will make them want to try them even though they don't have sufficient knowledge about them.

Yes, of course, I agree with that position, there are many people who have a lot of faith in lotteries and even if they have been playing all those years without stopping and without winning, they will continue playing because they have all their faith that one day they will have that touch of luckily it will favor them, I really admire those positions, because for me the probabbablides are very low for a person to win, however it is respectable and everyone has their culter regarding games, bets, lotteries, raffles, I saw Looking at it from a point of view more towards this of lotteries and raffles, some raffles that they do, are more likely to be won, for example here they do raffles diodne the biggest prize is a car of the year, apart from that they have prizes specials of around 150 motorcycles, and the price of the raffle ticket is 1000 dollars, and it is impressive, because the tickets are sold in eusti'n of 2 days, they are not sold complete, but they do pay, and the majority of People who buy them are from the USA.

It looks impressive because many have won these raffles and really those who give the highest prize keep that car of the year, here to this because many think that the people who do this raffle have a lot of friendship with the government, because they go to the capital to look for the cars of the moment and the only thing that arrives like this is the cars for government agents, so there is always something there that is money that is given to them so that they can continue doing this, some duicen do money laundering, others say No, but I do agree that they do this with the authorization of the governor so that the police and guards of the country let them pass, besides that this is a very lucrative business, the lottery is done on a triple basis and those who win the motorcycles is with the terminal, which seems impressive to me, so in this aspect the people who play have that probability that when they are in the USA they suddenly call them and tell them that they won the motorcycle, or the jackpot, these things happen here always.

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August 11, 2023, 04:13:12 PM
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So that spirit of never giving is not something that is peculiar to lottery players alone, it is very common in the amongst gamblers, and I personally do not see any crime in that as long as the gambler or player have other dependable sources of income that helps support their gambling or lottery playing activities, as well helps keep the player and his or her family well and away from financial crises. 

In addition to your input, It’s very hard to become addicted on lottery because there’s only few games available per day and placing bets on regular basis is very time consuming since you will need to go personally on a lottery outlet just to bet. Typically, lotter players only place bet during specific day per week except for those who reside near a lottery outlet.

Nevertheless, Lottery addiction is much more mild than the typical casino addiction because of the slow phase of the game. Buying bulk tickets is just more on a hobby instead of addiction because he can only place limited bets on every draw due to time constraints of the game.
You are right that mate lottery addictions is quite mild than addicting to the casino which is pretty bad cause we all know that in casino there are many easy ways to bet more than once in an hour so there are many possible outcome that you will Lost more in casino than lottery as we all know that in lottery we need to wait the specific time before we know the outcome of our bet so in short its better to play in lottery than in casino.
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August 11, 2023, 04:59:14 PM
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So that spirit of never giving is not something that is peculiar to lottery players alone, it is very common in the amongst gamblers, and I personally do not see any crime in that as long as the gambler or player have other dependable sources of income that helps support their gambling or lottery playing activities, as well helps keep the player and his or her family well and away from financial crises. 

In addition to your input, It’s very hard to become addicted on lottery because there’s only few games available per day and placing bets on regular basis is very time consuming since you will need to go personally on a lottery outlet just to bet. Typically, lotter players only place bet during specific day per week except for those who reside near a lottery outlet.

Nevertheless, Lottery addiction is much more mild than the typical casino addiction because of the slow phase of the game. Buying bulk tickets is just more on a hobby instead of addiction because he can only place limited bets on every draw due to time constraints of the game.

Depends on what kind of lottery we are dealing with, here in my country there are so many lottery games that being drawn every single day.
Addiction may happen even if there is only 1 lottery game per day because addiction is not about how many available games out there but it is about how people deal with their mind.
Even if there is only 1 game per week, someone may become addicted to the lottery by spending too much money in single game.
I'm talking about lottery which is available in my country, a type of lottery in which people can buy thousands tickets per game as long as they have the money to buy.

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August 11, 2023, 10:00:17 PM
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speaking of lotteries, in my country there are many lotteries and every day, but there is a lottery that pays a lot of money and the winner is announced every weekend, when there is no winner the value of the prize increases, so months usually go by without appearing a single winner and when there is a winner, they hide the winner's face, so I keep asking myself the following: how can I believe that someone really won this lottery in my country if I don't see the winners' faces? When I say that, people close to me keep telling me that they can't show the winner's face because he would be targeted by criminals, but that doesn't make any sense because in my country and even in many countries people are always posting everything they do, so nowadays everyone knows things

even the person who wins the lottery, their neighbors will find out about it, so there's no point in hiding it, but until today they continue to hide it and I don't believe in the lottery in my country and until last year I saw a lot of people buying a lot of lottery tickets , it was something unbelievable what I saw, people soon thought that when they bought a lot of tickets then their chances of winning a lot of money would be higher, but they didn't think that those tickets are being sold all over my country and there are a lot of people buying, as a consequence getting it right is not easy. but when they started not showing the winner's face, then people lost hope, people don't really believe that there is any winner

and this is the problem, lotteries are the worst thing people put money into, there is no guarantee that they will ever win, there is no proof that anyone really wins, there is no proof that it is not something manipulated, that's why I myself seeing that my country's lottery ticket costs 0.50$ I don't buy the ticket, I have no interest in playing the lottery, I see lotteries as something manipulated, at least I speak in the case of my country

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August 11, 2023, 10:24:15 PM
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even the person who wins the lottery, their neighbors will find out about it, so there's no point in hiding it, but until today they continue to hide it and I don't believe in the lottery in my country and until last year I saw a lot of people buying a lot of lottery tickets , it was something unbelievable what I saw, people soon thought that when they bought a lot of tickets then their chances of winning a lot of money would be higher, but they didn't think that those tickets are being sold all over my country and there are a lot of people buying, as a consequence getting it right is not easy. but when they started not showing the winner's face, then people lost hope, people don't really believe that there is any winner

and this is the problem, lotteries are the worst thing people put money into, there is no guarantee that they will ever win, there is no proof that anyone really wins, there is no proof that it is not something manipulated, that's why I myself seeing that my country's lottery ticket costs 0.50$ I don't buy the ticket, I have no interest in playing the lottery, I see lotteries as something manipulated, at least I speak in the case of my country
^ That is the point and I think your observation about the surge in people purchasing lottery tickets, with the misconception that buying more tickets increases their chances of winning, underscores a common misunderstanding about probability. The idea that more tickets equate to a higher probability fails to account for the widespread distribution of tickets throughout the country, making the odds of winning quite challenging or pretty slim. This move, while intended to protect the privacy of winners, seems to have unintentionally contributed to a decline in public belief in the legitimacy of the lottery. It is interesting how people's perceptions can shift based on the way information is presented.
However, your decision not to participate in the lottery is a reflection of your critical thinking and reluctance to invest in something that lacks transparency and clear evidence of its fairness. Your stance on the matter is rooted in rationality and skepticism, which is commendable.
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August 11, 2023, 10:40:00 PM
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~snip~

even the person who wins the lottery, their neighbors will find out about it, so there's no point in hiding it, but until today they continue to hide it and I don't believe in the lottery in my country and until last year I saw a lot of people buying a lot of lottery tickets , it was something unbelievable what I saw, people soon thought that when they bought a lot of tickets then their chances of winning a lot of money would be higher, but they didn't think that those tickets are being sold all over my country and there are a lot of people buying, as a consequence getting it right is not easy. but when they started not showing the winner's face, then people lost hope, people don't really believe that there is any winner

and this is the problem, lotteries are the worst thing people put money into, there is no guarantee that they will ever win, there is no proof that anyone really wins, there is no proof that it is not something manipulated, that's why I myself seeing that my country's lottery ticket costs 0.50$ I don't buy the ticket, I have no interest in playing the lottery, I see lotteries as something manipulated, at least I speak in the case of my country
^ That is the point and I think your observation about the surge in people purchasing lottery tickets, with the misconception that buying more tickets increases their chances of winning, underscores a common misunderstanding about probability. The idea that more tickets equate to a higher probability fails to account for the widespread distribution of tickets throughout the country, making the odds of winning quite challenging or pretty slim. This move, while intended to protect the privacy of winners, seems to have unintentionally contributed to a decline in public belief in the legitimacy of the lottery. It is interesting how people's perceptions can shift based on the way information is presented.

Mathematics does not lie, Buying more ticket with different number combination increase the chance of winning regardless it is minuscule or not.  And that is not a misunderstanding IMO, the only misunderstanding would be if the buyer thinks that if he buy 1000 ticket he will win which is non-factual since the probability is applied here.  Meaning even a person with 1 ticket can beat him because of the given probability.


However, your decision not to participate in the lottery is a reflection of your critical thinking and reluctance to invest in something that lacks transparency and clear evidence of its fairness. Your stance on the matter is rooted in rationality and skepticism, which is commendable.

I also agree, and only few people have the capability to analyze and see through the trick of the lottery.  Imagine if a person is aiming for a consolation prize of a thousand dollar, and keep on buying for 10 years everyday, he could have earn way more than what he aimed for and those who have critical thinking will only notice that.

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August 11, 2023, 10:59:01 PM
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Mathematics does not lie, Buying more ticket with different number combination increase the chance of winning regardless it is minuscule or not.  And that is not a misunderstanding IMO, the only misunderstanding would be if the buyer thinks that if he buy 1000 ticket he will win which is non-factual since the probability is applied here.  Meaning even a person with 1 ticket can beat him because of the given probability.

You are correct.
Buying more tickets certainly increases your chances of winning but it doesn't guarantee you will win. Just to give an example to explain this: let's assume there are 100 tickets. If you buy 1 ticket, your chance of winning is 1%. If you buy 10 tickets, your chance of winning will increase to 10%.
However, even if you buy 99 tickets, there is still a 1% chance you won't win.
What makes people believe that buying more ticket doesn't change anything is the fact that there are millions of sold tickets. You will need a fortune to have a reasonable chance of winning.

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You are correct.
Buying more tickets certainly increases your chances of winning but it doesn't guarantee you will win. Just to give an example to explain this: let's assume there are 100 tickets. If you buy 1 ticket, your chance of winning is 1%. If you buy 10 tickets, your chance of winning will increase to 10%.
However, even if you buy 99 tickets, there is still a 1% chance you won't win.

The example you give is too simple. In lotteries like Euromillions, the possible combinations are more than 2 million, 2.118.760. So if you buy one ticket, the probability of winning is 1/2.118.760, that is practically 0. And if you buy 2 or 10 tickets with different combinations, it is still practically 0.

What makes people believe that buying more ticket doesn't change anything is the fact that there are millions of sold tickets. You will need a fortune to have a reasonable chance of winning.

That would be a waste of money. The euromillions gives out 50% of the prize money, so even if you hypothetically bought all the numbers to win, you would win half of what you would have spent buying tickets.

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Now that's what happened because lottery tickets have a fairly cheap price, even when today the gambler is not lucky to win, he can still buy it again tomorrow with a smile and usually people like this are just waiting for luck to come in the having the jackpot one day.
But it's hard to get even a winning percentage to reach the jackpot point, it's impossible for everyone to have.

I think they will also stop buying lottery tickets when they are fed up with losing or even spend all the money they have to buy lots of lottery tickets to have more chances.
Because it's cheap, people are still interested in buying it, and some even buy tickets in large quantities. But most of them are not lucky because there are people who only buy a few tickets but instead manage to win the jackpot and they are the ones who are lucky. But people never stop buying because they keep waiting their turn to get lucky so they can win.

They will not stop even when they have won the jackpot. They want an even bigger jackpot, so they keep buying the tickets. Buying lottery tickets is an addiction when they know their luck is very hard to come by.
I see no difference with playing gambling games, betting on sports and buying lottery tickets, the same way people are buying lottery tickets hoping to win the jackpot some day, even when they have done this for several years with no luck, same also we can find gamblers who have been playing slot, casino games, or betting on sports matches for several years without hitting any significant winning, and yet, they never give up, they keep trying, keep pushing and hoping that one day, luck will smile on them.

You just said everything I hate about gambling and lotteries, in everything that people can make money from, many people are already doing the same and hoping for the same thing you are hoping for, how can you possibly win? Only if you can do things differently.

Gambling and Lotteries are too far away from making possibilities through them, but learning a skill and becoming hard working is far more reliable than anything else, I would rather learn a new skill than becoming a gambler because my dream won't be bases on luck and fantasy.

If you want your dream to reach you for real you must not depend on fantasy, Making it in life is not an easy goal, and if all you have is gambling you are on a path of fantasy and there is a 95% chance that it will remain a fantasy forever.

You can be a gambler and still have goals you can accomplish with hard-working and skills, Don't take gambling too seriously, instead try having fun out of them with few dollars at stake.

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even the person who wins the lottery, their neighbors will find out about it, so there's no point in hiding it, but until today they continue to hide it and I don't believe in the lottery in my country and until last year I saw a lot of people buying a lot of lottery tickets , it was something unbelievable what I saw, people soon thought that when they bought a lot of tickets then their chances of winning a lot of money would be higher, but they didn't think that those tickets are being sold all over my country and there are a lot of people buying, as a consequence getting it right is not easy. but when they started not showing the winner's face, then people lost hope, people don't really believe that there is any winner

and this is the problem, lotteries are the worst thing people put money into, there is no guarantee that they will ever win, there is no proof that anyone really wins, there is no proof that it is not something manipulated, that's why I myself seeing that my country's lottery ticket costs 0.50$ I don't buy the ticket, I have no interest in playing the lottery, I see lotteries as something manipulated, at least I speak in the case of my country
^ That is the point and I think your observation about the surge in people purchasing lottery tickets, with the misconception that buying more tickets increases their chances of winning, underscores a common misunderstanding about probability. The idea that more tickets equate to a higher probability fails to account for the widespread distribution of tickets throughout the country, making the odds of winning quite challenging or pretty slim. This move, while intended to protect the privacy of winners, seems to have unintentionally contributed to a decline in public belief in the legitimacy of the lottery. It is interesting how people's perceptions can shift based on the way information is presented.
However, your decision not to participate in the lottery is a reflection of your critical thinking and reluctance to invest in something that lacks transparency and clear evidence of its fairness. Your stance on the matter is rooted in rationality and skepticism, which is commendable.
"More chances, more tickets"! In fact, it's a favorite among those who, shall we say, don't grasp the finer aspects of chance very well. You're correct to point out that there are a large number of tickets, which inevitably decreases each individual's odds. When you pause to consider it, it's fairly obvious. Sadly, not all of them do! For a great number of people, the entire lottery system is merely a means to request something

It was astute of you to observe that people's faith is diminishing. It's hilarious, and I don't mean that in a humorous manner, that the safety measures have caused more problems than they've solved. What about your friend's decision not to vote? Very intelligent, indeed. When an avian has the opportunity to become wealthy, is it not unusual for it to consider its options so thoroughly

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August 12, 2023, 08:25:17 AM
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Now that's what happened because lottery tickets have a fairly cheap price, even when today the gambler is not lucky to win, he can still buy it again tomorrow with a smile and usually people like this are just waiting for luck to come in the having the jackpot one day.
But it's hard to get even a winning percentage to reach the jackpot point, it's impossible for everyone to have.

I think they will also stop buying lottery tickets when they are fed up with losing or even spend all the money they have to buy lots of lottery tickets to have more chances.
Because it's cheap, people are still interested in buying it, and some even buy tickets in large quantities. But most of them are not lucky because there are people who only buy a few tickets but instead manage to win the jackpot and they are the ones who are lucky. But people never stop buying because they keep waiting their turn to get lucky so they can win.

They will not stop even when they have won the jackpot. They want an even bigger jackpot, so they keep buying the tickets. Buying lottery tickets is an addiction when they know their luck is very hard to come by.
I see no difference with playing gambling games, betting on sports and buying lottery tickets, the same way people are buying lottery tickets hoping to win the jackpot some day, even when they have done this for several years with no luck, same also we can find gamblers who have been playing slot, casino games, or betting on sports matches for several years without hitting any significant winning, and yet, they never give up, they keep trying, keep pushing and hoping that one day, luck will smile on them.

You just said everything I hate about gambling and lotteries, in everything that people can make money from, many people are already doing the same and hoping for the same thing you are hoping for, how can you possibly win? Only if you can do things differently.

Gambling and Lotteries are too far away from making possibilities through them, but learning a skill and becoming hard working is far more reliable than anything else, I would rather learn a new skill than becoming a gambler because my dream won't be bases on luck and fantasy.

If you want your dream to reach you for real you must not depend on fantasy, Making it in life is not an easy goal, and if all you have is gambling you are on a path of fantasy and there is a 95% chance that it will remain a fantasy forever.

You can be a gambler and still have goals you can accomplish with hard-working and skills, Don't take gambling too seriously, instead try having fun out of them with few dollars at stake.
ALL you said is true indeed, I think we had  a discussion on this board or in the gambling discussion board, about those who take gambling as an main and only source of income for livelihood, it is a very bad attitude and something that we all must discourage..

Gambling is not a bad thing to do as a side hustle or hobby, it should never be taken seriously, but unfortunately, many people in our societies today take gambling as their only source of livelihood, and when you try to find out why, they tell you the government have refused to create jobs, if government refuse to create jobs, what stops us as individuals from creating Jobs for ourselves, as well as for others?
It's a question I've always asked.

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August 13, 2023, 09:16:23 AM
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ALL you said is true indeed, I think we had  a discussion on this board or in the gambling discussion board, about those who take gambling as an main and only source of income for livelihood, it is a very bad attitude and something that we all must discourage..

Gambling is not a bad thing to do as a side hustle or hobby, it should never be taken seriously, but unfortunately, many people in our societies today take gambling as their only source of livelihood, and when you try to find out why, they tell you the government have refused to create jobs, if government refuse to create jobs, what stops us as individuals from creating Jobs for ourselves, as well as for others?
It's a question I've always asked.

I think that most people who give that argument are hiding or even unaware themselves about the real reason behind their behavior: that they really want to gamble, or are already addicted, but it's not their fault, but environment's. That's called external locus of control and characteristic of childish/irresponsible people.

Most people shouldn't think about making a living out of gambling (only a few so called influencers manage to do that by diversifying their sources of income) and, in the case they did, they shouldn't remember that if anything goes wrong, as it is expected to be, fault will be theirs and not government's nor whoever else's.

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