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Author Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2025/2026 Discussion Thread ⚽  (Read 146000 times)
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September 19, 2025, 11:45:38 AM
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Bayern Munich were much stronger than Chelsea in yesterday's game, that's true. But perhaps Chelsea were more focused on the game against United than on trying to beat Bayern on their home field? By the way, bookmakers see this game as random:

2.67 - 3.61 - 2.46

Honestly, seeing how poor United are, I'm tempted to bet on Chelsea or Chelsea Double Chance. It feels like a high-value bet. As a United fan it's hard to accept this reality, but that's how things look.
That is not true, how can Chelsea focus on Manchester united game over a champions league game?, this Chelsea fans can give excuse for their poor perforce, you guys should take responsibility of your club poor game with Bayern Munich. Chelsea at the moment is not at Bayern munich level, Chelsea needs to build the team to compete in the champions league, their first game was a disgrace from a club that was crown world champion.

Since you said they were focused on Manchester united game, they should win it. I know it will be a tough game for both team, Manchester united is having serious management issue right now, and their coach is under pressure to win match, this Chelsea will determine his future , if he lose he might be sacked. Chelsea has to be ready to face him. It will end draw, both team are not in good form now.

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September 19, 2025, 11:54:12 AM
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both team are not in good form now.

I think United is not performing well, and Chelsea's performance is still unpredictable. This match could be exciting if both teams really play at their best. But if the strategy makes the game slow, both teams might end up presenting a boring match. This is certainly not what is expected from two big clubs, even though their current performance could be considered mediocre.

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September 19, 2025, 01:05:49 PM
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Bayern Munich were much stronger than Chelsea in yesterday's game, that's true. But perhaps Chelsea were more focused on the game against United than on trying to beat Bayern on their home field? By the way, bookmakers see this game as random:

2.67 - 3.61 - 2.46

Honestly, seeing how poor United are, I'm tempted to bet on Chelsea or Chelsea Double Chance. It feels like a high-value bet. As a United fan it's hard to accept this reality, but that's how things look.
No kinda excuse should be giving for that loss Bayern Munich by Chelsea, Munich players  are more professionally experience in the UCL than the bunch of Chelsea recently signed players and that's a big hedge foe them which they clearly executed. It has nothing to tangle with the Manchester United game in the weekend. They needed the UCL points as their first game of the tournament much as they do in the EPL.

Well, everyone thinks Chelsea would win in that encounter and that includes me too, a draw is fair as well.

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September 19, 2025, 01:26:12 PM
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September 19, 2025, 01:51:04 PM
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To be honest I didn't expect that Amorim that was the best coach in Portugal would switch to Manchester United and become worst, not this worst and it's so frustrating watching them as a fan. I think the board would give him few more matches to safe his job if he lose to Chelsea and the next match after the Chelsea game he's out.
It is a pity for everyone because Manchester United is not improving itself now, which is why they are not giving respect and reward to their coach. If Manchester United and their coach work together, I hope they can really bring something better. If we talk about the performance of the match with Chelsea, I hope they will lose this match because Chelsea is playing very well and strong at the moment, which is why Amorim's job is in danger due to Manchester United's poor performance. If he plays well in this, his job will also be saved and Manchester United will become a strong point.

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September 19, 2025, 02:13:38 PM
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I knew United stood no chance against City; even though everyone thought Pep wasn't on form to do too much, but that man comes aboard whenever he figures what the program is, and he did! Infact, you're right -- they were supposed to conceive even more goals than they did. Amorim needs to go back to the drawing board!
Manchester United didn’t pose any threat against City in the game. I also had my expectations high for United to make the game difficult for City but it turned out that It was an easy win for Manchester City in the game. Manchester United have really gone down in performance level, if this continues they will have to battle relegation again this season.
The slump experienced by Man United was due to the management's inability to manage the team well, almost all the coaches brought in were useless, including Amorim. The humiliating defeat to Man City further disappointed fans with the team. They were hoping for Man United to perform at their best, but what happened on the pitch was truly unacceptable. This season there is nothing to expect from Man United, they will continue to lose points if Amorim is still maintained, maybe hardcore fans will boycott Man United when they play at Old Trafford and that will be very detrimental to the club.

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September 19, 2025, 02:13:51 PM
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Everything that keeps happening around Manchester United and the bad results the team keeps getting shows how clueless Amorim has been and yet he goes on acting arrogant like he knows what he is doing. I’m sure Zirkzee will be reconsidering his decision to stay at Manchester United past the summer.
I think if Manchester United really wanted to have a good position and wanted to perform better. They strictly need to take their problems on a serious note and find their solutions. Because the new coach of Manchester United is not a good fit for the team. Because if he has some such qualities to grab the team towards the betterments then I think there should be some glimpses which made the team and the fans think about his skills. But as per the results of till now he is not a good choice and the management really needs to find some better options. Because if the performance of the team goes with the same scenario and in the same limited characteristics this results for the team in a terrible situation. Because where the team is really falling now is an alarming situation what the Eric Ten Hag did is more than enough in the sense of damage of Manchester United.











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September 19, 2025, 02:35:16 PM
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I was expecting Amorim to do good at manchester United, but somehow he is trash right now, nobody can predict this, i mean maybe they cant fight against the teams from the big six, but this actual form is pathetic for a team like Manchester United, and the crisis is only deepening, on how much time they are gonna ask Sir Alex to comeback at 100 years old?
You think if sir Alex Ferguson comes back that he's going to single handedly effect a change that will lead Manchester united to winning of games? Fact is that sir Alex Ferguson is long gone and afterwards, coaches have come, tried thier best and have gone and to an extent, this might not be a coaching or player problem. There are times when things does not work just right even when you're doing the right thing and that might just be what united is facing.

Observe that even with the poor result united has had, they've not been totally awful in Thier play. It's always like they end up working really hard and at the end, there's nothing to show for. it might just be a matter of time before everything eventually comes back to normal and they start doing really well.

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I was expecting Amorim to do good at manchester United, but somehow he is trash right now, nobody can predict this, i mean maybe they cant fight against the teams from the big six, but this actual form is pathetic for a team like Manchester United, and the crisis is only deepening, on how much time they are gonna ask Sir Alex to comeback at 100 years old?
You think if sir Alex Ferguson comes back that he's going to single handedly effect a change that will lead Manchester united to winning of games? Fact is that sir Alex Ferguson is long gone and afterwards, coaches have come, tried thier best and have gone and to an extent, this might not be a coaching or player problem. There are times when things does not work just right even when you're doing the right thing and that might just be what united is facing.

Observe that even with the poor result united has had, they've not been totally awful in Thier play. It's always like they end up working really hard and at the end, there's nothing to show for. it might just be a matter of time before everything eventually comes back to normal and they start doing really well.


No man i was just making a point about how bad the things are in Manchester United, Sir Alex can coach anything right now his health is super poor and this shit players are gonna kill him when he saw them playing and training.

But for sure he wants to punch in the face most of them. Super sad for a guy like him after building a generational team, come this.

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I was expecting Amorim to do good at manchester United, but somehow he is trash right now, nobody can predict this, i mean maybe they cant fight against the teams from the big six, but this actual form is pathetic for a team like Manchester United, and the crisis is only deepening, on how much time they are gonna ask Sir Alex to comeback at 100 years old?

What i understand is that the main cause of this disappointment is not only Manchester United failure, but also the excessive expectations of the fans themselves, the hope that Amorim arrival would change the team's style of play for the better, winning game after game, even if by a narrow margin. Perhaps Amorim needs time, and fans need extra patience if they want to see changes at Manchester United. Speaking of Sir Alex Ferguson, we know and realize that his era as manager was one of the best for Manchester United. It can be said that those were moments of glory that will be difficult to repeat, but we must realize that Manchester United will not progress if it continues to look back to the past.

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September 19, 2025, 04:38:20 PM
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Amorim at Manchester united is never to amend but to cause more harm for the team that where trying to step up when van nistelroy took over as interim coach, he played four matches won 3 and draw one which was a good sign of recovery after seasons lost hope. But the management brought in Ruben amorim from sporting cp believing he could perform the magic he did over there without knowing English premier league is never a league for kids.

Annalising his game pattern, I see nothing wrong in the 3 4 3 formation but never give room for dominance because his own pattern gives room for five defenders three at full back and two at both wing right and left while we have just 1 holding midfielder which could be idea casimero or kobbie maino and one controling midfielder giving room for limited power at the back line because the duty of the wing left and right is to add attacking strength with a little defensive effort. As for the controlling midfielder, his attention is channelled at full front with little defensive assistant if need be but the three full back and one holding midfielder won't be able to withstand till the rest comes back to assist.

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I was expecting Amorim to do good at manchester United, but somehow he is trash right now, nobody can predict this, i mean maybe they cant fight against the teams from the big six, but this actual form is pathetic for a team like Manchester United, and the crisis is only deepening, on how much time they are gonna ask Sir Alex to comeback at 100 years old?

What i understand is that the main cause of this disappointment is not only Manchester United failure, but also the excessive expectations of the fans themselves, the hope that Amorim arrival would change the team's style of play for the better, winning game after game, even if by a narrow margin. Perhaps Amorim needs time, and fans need extra patience if they want to see changes at Manchester United. Speaking of Sir Alex Ferguson, we know and realize that his era as manager was one of the best for Manchester United. It can be said that those were moments of glory that will be difficult to repeat, but we must realize that Manchester United will not progress if it continues to look back to the past.

Amorin isnt a magician he can't just change everything within a short period of time, united has a problem that has been lingering for a long time. I think he needs time to work something out, give or take, three months. Manchester united has been disappointing a lot of football fans for more than three football seasons.  Like you said, it seems that it's difficult for them to go back to the way they were

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Amorim bought 5 players and spent 250 million euros in total for them. Is this a big revolution in the squad? No, it isn't.

He only focused on the attacking line and a goalkeeper signing. Or I don't know maybe he had to if he wasn't given more money to spend.

The thing is their defending is still trash. They got better in offense with many more shots but they are still having problems on scoring multiple goals in a game as well.

5 players in without sending out players like Harry Maguire,  Luke Shaw, Casemiro and Ugarte out of the system would not bring the growth we Manchester United fans desires.

The manager is focused on bettering the club and players mentally,  he is not just focused on attacking. I'd say we don't have good enough midfielders who can shield the defence. They need to be ruthless completely during the January transfer window.

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5 players in without sending out players like Harry Maguire,  Luke Shaw, Casemiro and Ugarte out of the system would not bring the growth we Manchester United fans desires.

The manager is focused on bettering the club and players mentally,  he is not just focused on attacking. I'd say we don't have good enough midfielders who can shield the defence. They need to be ruthless completely during the January transfer window.
How can he send players like maguire, Luke Shaw out when he don’t even feel they are his problem, like I don’t know what he is thinking, you can’t have that midfield and defense and expect to be challenging for an European space. Since the beginning of season we have seen how Manchester United have been conceding all kinds of goals.

He need to bring in quality defenders and at least a quality defensive midfielder, well I don’t know what Amorim is thinking, but if by January transfer and he doesn’t bring in a defender and a defensive midfielder then he would have a lot to do.

Maybe if he is not rigid and can at least play a more flexible formation maybe they team will be more better than this.

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September 19, 2025, 05:35:55 PM
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I was expecting Amorim to do good at manchester United, but somehow he is trash right now, nobody can predict this, i mean maybe they cant fight against the teams from the big six, but this actual form is pathetic for a team like Manchester United, and the crisis is only deepening, on how much time they are gonna ask Sir Alex to comeback at 100 years old?
After the fine performance he displayed at Sporting we all expected him to take Manchester United back to their old standard but he haven't met the expectations yet. I think he came at the wrong time that's why he end up feeling pressure and lost control. I said it before that coming to a team that is doing bad mid season is a bad idea because everyone will expect you to turn things around immediately they won't care that you need time to set things up your own way, all they about is the results. He should have waited till end of season to sign for them so he can get to know the players properly during pre season that way there won't be much pressure just like Enzo Maresca did.

What i understand is that the main cause of this disappointment is not only Manchester United failure, but also the excessive expectations of the fans themselves, the hope that Amorim arrival would change the team's style of play for the better, winning game after game, even if by a narrow margin. Perhaps Amorim needs time, and fans need extra patience if they want to see changes at Manchester United.
When you join a big club you should know that expectations are always high and you should prepare your mind for what's coming when you don't perform to expectations. He was already given the grace of last season since he came mid season and they expected a better performance by now so if he doesn't improve I don't think he will be given much time anymore. Most struggling top teams don't have that patience to give.

 
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September 19, 2025, 05:41:10 PM
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Bayern Munich were much stronger than Chelsea in yesterday's game, that's true. But perhaps Chelsea were more focused on the game against United than on trying to beat Bayern on their home field? By the way, bookmakers see this game as random:

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Honestly, seeing how poor United are, I'm tempted to bet on Chelsea or Chelsea Double Chance. It feels like a high-value bet. As a United fan it's hard to accept this reality, but that's how things look.
That is not true, how can Chelsea focus on Manchester united game over a champions league game?, this Chelsea fans can give excuse for their poor perforce, you guys should take responsibility of your club poor game with Bayern Munich. Chelsea at the moment is not at Bayern munich level, Chelsea needs to build the team to compete in the champions league, their first game was a disgrace from a club that was crown world champion.

Since you said they were focused on Manchester united game, they should win it. I know it will be a tough game for both team, Manchester united is having serious management issue right now, and their coach is under pressure to win match, this Chelsea will determine his future , if he lose he might be sacked. Chelsea has to be ready to face him. It will end draw, both team are not in good form now.
United is playing against big teams to start it, like City and Chelsea, so a bad start is understandable as long as they recover and start beating lower level teams, that would make them get some momentum as well. Imagine them winning 2-3 games in a row, suddenly the dark clouds are gone and they can do better. That is what they need right now.

There was a dude who makes videos on instagram, and he doesn't cut his hair until United wins 5 in a row. It has been a year, and he still hasn't shaved his head because United hasn't done that. So, it's clear that they are in desperate need for a 5 game in a row, and I know that's going to be tough because they haven't done that in over a year, but is it really "impossible"? I think they will have 5 easy games eventually, they should be able to, and that momentum could change so much for a bad running team.

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September 19, 2025, 06:11:43 PM
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I was expecting Amorim to do good at manchester United, but somehow he is trash right now, nobody can predict this, i mean maybe they cant fight against the teams from the big six, but this actual form is pathetic for a team like Manchester United, and the crisis is only deepening, on how much time they are gonna ask Sir Alex to comeback at 100 years old?
I have noticed that what has been overwhelming Amorim is that he still believes in the strategy he implemented at Manchester United, which is similar to the strategy he used when coaching Sporting. Amorim will clearly not succeed because his tactics are too monotonous for the English Premier League. Don't be surprised if Manchester United's position in the standings gets worse at the end of the season. There is so much chaos in this club that continues to be unresolved. In the end, I have to admit that bringing in Amorim is no better than Erik Ten Hag.
Yes, memorized strategies cannot be applied, but rather the opponent should be considered, considering the strength of the players and then planning with the opponent team. Amorim may forget while planning that the team they are planning against is stronger than them and they are a relatively weak team, but they should plan accordingly, but they always go on the field with the same plan, and at the end of the match, the result goes against them. For about four to five years, Manchester United has been a team that has failed in the English Premier League and other tournaments. If they do not take good steps soon, then this failure will be a long-term problem for Manchester United, which will make it very difficult to bring good quality players to the club later.
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September 19, 2025, 06:16:21 PM
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both team are not in good form now.
I think United is not performing well, and Chelsea's performance is still unpredictable. This match could be exciting if both teams really play at their best. But if the strategy makes the game slow, both teams might end up presenting a boring match. This is certainly not what is expected from two big clubs, even though their current performance could be considered mediocre.
While I agree Chelsea is playing unpredictable and sometimes great and sometimes terrible, it is obvious that they are better than United. We have seen even the best teams end up losing to worst teams, but this United lost to a team 3-4 divisions lower than them, so Chelsea is obviously not a match for them.

The game should be a simple one, we should be able to see Chelsea win easily just like City did. United fans shouldn't sad though, because Chelsea is one of the bigger teams, and United will play many games against teams at bottom 5-6 eventually, and those are the games they should get wins. Because if they can get wins just there, and some shocking results above, then they can finish midtable, and be better than last year.



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What i understand is that the main cause of this disappointment is not only Manchester United failure, but also the excessive expectations of the fans themselves, the hope that Amorim arrival would change the team's style of play for the better, winning game after game, even if by a narrow margin. Perhaps Amorim needs time, and fans need extra patience if they want to see changes at Manchester United. Speaking of Sir Alex Ferguson, we know and realize that his era as manager was one of the best for Manchester United. It can be said that those were moments of glory that will be difficult to repeat, but we must realize that Manchester United will not progress if it continues to look back to the past.

I don't think I will even put my mind in a club like Manchester United so people that are expecting anything from Manchester United will only get disappointment so I just watch most of there games for watching sake because don't expect them to win, even Amorim coming to Manchester United did not know what he was getting into because the Club is a mess and there fans are even trying I don't think I will be able to support a club like Manchester United.

A lot of people are already losing hope in that club because they are just a disappointment. And that club needs serious working so if they don't do a total working even the coach. Because during the era of Alex the club was doing perfectly okay and now the club have turn to a thing of mockery. And it is not as if they don't have players but they have one of the poorest performance they need to get quality players also because even there defense is compromised.











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It's true that Manchester United is not in the best of forms what we should is that this is a big game because Manchester United and Chelsea are two big rivals when it comes to England, so don't expect that Manchester United will be playing the way that they have been doing, don't be surprised if Manchester United wins this game. Manchester United is going to raise their standards in this game I don't see united losing this game to Chelsea.

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